Last week, our Anne Dachel prepared a list of questions to pose to VIDS - Vaccine Injury Deniers - as a follow up to Robert Kennedy's podcast with Joe Rogan. You can read it along with a transcript here.

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By Anne Dachel

‘We Don’t Have Any’         

When Robert Kennedy, Jr. was interviewed by Joe Rogan on June 15, 2023, he pointed out glaring malfeasance on the part of U.S. health officials.

WHERE ARE THE VACCINE SAFETY STUDIES?

Kennedy said:

And that’s the problem with not doing real placebo controlled trials.

None of the vaccines are subjected to true placebo controlled trials.  It is the only medical product that is exempt prior to licensure.

I said this for many, many years: Not one of these 72 vaccines has ever been tested pre-licensing in a placebo controlled trial where you’re looking at vaccinated vs unvaccinated kids, looking for health outcomes. Never been done.

Tony Fauci was saying, [Kennedy’s] lying. He’s not telling the truth.  This is vaccine misinformation.

I said to him, “Tony, you’ve been telling people I’m a liar when I say no vaccine has ever been,  none of the mandated  vaccines…none of them have ever been tested in a placebo-controlled trial safety test prior to licensing.”

And I said, “Can you show me one vaccine that has been subject to a safety test. Show me one study that shows that.”

He made this show of looking through… They had brought in from NIH, this big tray full of file folders, and he made a show of looking through that at the time. He couldn’t find whatever he was looking for.

Then he said, “It’s back at NIH in Bethesda, and I’ll sent it to you.”

Well, he never did.

So Aaron and I sued him, sued HHS and said, “Show us one study that’s ever been done on pre-licensing safety testing for vaccines.”

After a year of stonewalling, they finally gave us a letter and said, “We don’t have any.”

They literally don’t have any.

So nobody knows what the risk profiles for these products are. So they’re telling people they avert more harm than they cause, but there’s no science behind that statement. It’s just a guess work.

Joe Rogan challenged vaccine defender Dr. Peter Hotez to come on camera and debate vaccine safety with Kennedy.

THAT’S WHAT’S MISSING

The most important question that everyone needs to ask, that has to be answered, is simple:

Where are the double blind studies demonstrating that each vaccine is safe for children?

This is the norm in drug development. One group gets the actual product and another group gets  a placebo, neither group knowing which one they receive. Researchers then study the side effects to see if there’s a problem. In the case of vaccines, something mandated for children to be able to attend school, this is critical.

If health agencies really had piles of these studies, the debate would be over. They could shut Kennedy down immediately. YES, VACCINES ARE SAFE. THESE STUDIES PROVE IT.

SO WHERE ARE THOSE STUDIES?

This report from 2017 explains how “double blind tests” really work. In the case of the HPV vaccine, researchers included toxins in the placebo group, namely ALUMINUM.

Of the 16 HPV vaccine randomized trials, only two used an inert saline placebo. Ten of the sixteen compared the HPV vaccine against a neurotoxic aluminum adjuvant, and four trials used an already-approved aluminum-containing vaccine as the comparison.

One does not have to be a scientist to understand that using aluminum-containing placebos is likely to muddy the comparison between the treatment and control groups. Critics of the HPV vaccine have pointed to the aluminum adjuvant as the most likely cause of adverse reactions, and some researchers have questioned the safety of using aluminum adjuvants in vaccines at all, due to their probable role as a contributor to chronic illness. The aluminum-containing placebos appeared to provoke numerous adverse reactions among the presumably unwitting patients who received them, allowing the pharma researchers to mask the cascade of similar adverse reactions among the groups that received the vaccines. Although both placebo and study groups suffered numerous adverse events in these studies, there were minimal differences between the two groups.

The similar adverse outcomes in both groups allowed industry researchers and government regulators to claim that the vaccines were perfectly safe, despite manifold disturbing reactions. The Mexican researchers’ meta-review confirms the difficulty of ascertaining vaccine-attributable differences from this mess; the researchers identified only a few indications of “significantly increased systemic adverse events in the HPV vaccine group vs. the control group” across the 16 pre-licensure trials.

If this is the kind of “science” officials have to show vaccine safety, it is obvious why Dr. Hotez is won’t come on with Kennedy. And no wonder the pharma shills in the media are telling Hotez to run away and hide.

On June 24th, the New York Intelligencer published, Anti-Vaxxers Don’t Want a Debate; They Want a Spectacle, by Sarah Jones.   Ms Jones, like everyone else in the mainstream media, assumes there’s no question that vaccines are safe. There no need to be fair and balanced.

Jones’ choice of descriptive words made it clear who was the good guy and who was the baddie. She wrote:

With the presidential candidacy of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a noted vaccine opponent, and the popularity of vaccine-hostile commentators like Joe Rogan,

Dr. Peter Hotez, a highly regarded Texas-based vaccine scientist.

Most of all, Jones endorsed Hotez’s refusal to debate with Kennedy.  It’s just too dangerous.

Whatever the personal cost, Hotez is right to refuse a debate, many experts say, because doing so would provide anti-vaxxers like Kennedy with an opportunity to spread their baseless views even further. A debate may also validate the harassment that Hotez has faced.

Jones went on to cite experts who opposed giving the anti-vaccine group any public platform. All they have are lies so there’s no reason to talk to them.

Jones is not the only one in the media saying Hotez can’t risk talking to Kennedy.

On June 24th, t the Houston Chronicle run a story with the headline, Why Hotez is right not to debate RFK Jr.

Time Magazine said this: Hotez is right not to take the bait. Rogan is unqualified to moderate such a debate, and has himself peddled disinformation about vaccines. Debating anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists like RFK Jr. is a fool’s errand, which always backfires, as history has demonstrated repeatedly. These debates give the false impression that there are “two equivalent sides,” and therefore can cause real public health damage.

Members of the media aren’t really interested in this topic. None of them have ever researched evidence in both sides or the glaring conflicts of interest rife in our federal health agencies. None would dare question any aspect of the mantra, VACCINES ARE SAFE; VACCINES SAVE LIVES. That’s why they ignore every one of Kennedy’s claims about vaccine dangers.

It’s so much easier to start out coverage calling Kennedy names and reminding everyone that there are no problems with vaccines, all the experts say so.

NBC News: Kennedy, a once-fringe anti-vaccine activist, has received a warm embrace from some of the most popular alternative media figures. …

An NBC News review found nine videos posted on YouTube this year that are still up in which Kennedy shares medical misinformation related to vaccines and the Covid-19 pandemic. …

WHO said Covid-19 vaccines are highly effective and called for countries to vaccinate at least 70% of their populations.

TIME: Joe Rogan, America’s most popular podcaster, recently called for Professor Peter Hotez, an internationally recognized pediatric infectious disease doctor and vaccine scientist, to come on his podcast to debate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.), a prolific spreader of medical disinformation.

CNBC:  Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the anti-vaccine activist who’s now running for president, 

Forbes: One of the more vocal figures misinforming the public has been Kennedy. He went on Rogan’s show recently to once again back Covid-19 vaccine conspiracy theories. Kennedy also reiterated the debunked notion that there’s a link between childhood vaccines and autism. 

Vanity Fair described Kennedy as a “raging anti-vaxxer.”

ON June 23rd, the New York Times run this headline on an opinion piece:  It’s Not Possible to ‘Win’ an Argument With Robert F. Kennedy Jr., claiming it’s too dangerous to debate Kennedy.

Los Angeles Times: Kennedy has now paddled back into the American political discourse by announcing his candidacy for president in April on the Democratic ticket. His family connection appears to have brought attention to his campaign; the question is whether the dazzlement of the Kennedy name will be sufficient to blind voters to his history of promoting spectacularly dangerous health policies through misrepresentations and outright lies. …

The dangers from Kennedy’s campaign should be clear. One is that a Kennedy candidacy that gains any real traction alone will increase the political credibility of anti-vax claptrap, which already has more than enough.

What’s missing in all of this is the overwhelming evidence that we are a nation of the sick and disabled. Over half of Americans are chronically ill. Every couple of years CDC officials announce another breath-taking increase in the autism rate, now conservatively at one in every 36 kids (except if you live in California where it’s one in every 22 kids officially).

Our schools are filled with kids who can’t learn or behave as children have always been expected to, yet we’re told it’s all normal and acceptable. Robert Kennedy Jr.’s real crime here is that he’s pointing out what’s happening. That is simply not allowed.

Anne Dachel is Media Editor for Age of Autism.

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