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An Open Letter to CDC on Reinfection rates in Vaccinated & Unvaccinated

QuestionsFrom James Lyons-Weiler PhD:

From: James Lyons-Weiler <
Date: Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:39 PM
Subject: Cycle threshold distributions
To: <qds1@cdc.gov>
Cc: <>, <poland.gregory@mayo.edu>

Dear Dr. Campbell,

I am cc’ing Dr. Poland as he recently uncritically interpreted your report as showing that the risk of re-infection is higher in the unvaccinated than in the vaccinated in a YouTube presentation.

I read w/interest your report

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm

As you are corresponding author, I am directing my questions to you.

1. Among those partly vaccinated, vaccinated and unvaccinated, what were the qPCR Ct threshold distributions for each group?

2. If your team used the CDC’s guidelines for reporting case with (Ct<28 cycles + hospitalized or dead for vaccinated, but Ct value up to 40 or even higher for the unvaccinated), how can we compare rates of cases, hospitalizations and deaths in so-called vaccinated “cases” and so-called unvaccinated “cases”?

3. Are the groups studied confounded in any way?

4. Were the NAAT test rates vs. antigen test rates the same in both groups?

5. Per your report, the “vaccinated” were considered vaccinated on 14 or after, per CDC guidelines. This seems unusual; if the vaccine harms the immune system for a period of time and makes people more susceptible to infection, it would appear within the first two weeks, given what we have seen in animal studies.

6. If people are not vaccinated until 14 days after receipt of the vaccine, shouldn’t people have to wait 14 days to receive their vaccine card if herd immunity is the goal?

7. Your particular group criterion definition would skew the data badly in favor of finding an increased rate of re-infection in the previously infected or unvaccinated, making causal attribution to the vaccine and your recommendation that all persons should be vaccinated impossible to support with your data.

8. Also, there is ambiguity in the description of the time periods for the two groups. For the controls, were the data time-matched? Trends in prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 , public health measures, and seasonality of respiratory viruses change over time. Using a different (albeit overlapping) time period could bias the results in terms of group rates of infection.

9. Were “vaccinated” considered vaccinated past 90 days, or were they switched to “unvaccinated” after 90 days per CDC guidelines?

10. Was this report peer-reviewed by scientists who do not work with or for the CDC?

11. Given the above, do you and your co-authors stand by your conclusions?

The professional favor of a reply is requested.

Sincerely,

James Lyons-Weiler, PhD–

Comments

Morag Lyons

Thank you James Lyons-Weiler PhD
Surely if they want to compare apples and pomegranets ?
Let them know ,NHS Canteen can not make apple pie from pomegranete syrup alone ?
The Apple pie would have a soggy bottom?
However a light touch of pomegranate syrup may be acceptible in some recipies for apple pie?

See The History of The CDC
Very informative and interesting information .
Not to be confused with CDC Foundation - says Together our impact is greater .

Who We Are - Our Patrons ; List of CDC Philanthropic donors and partners in time .

List of Foundations - Corporations- Organisations.
Sakeholder values verses true north principles and evidence based standards within a concept of SOS =Salvage our Science, Salvage our Standards!

Benedetta

Reinfection
I am sure most here are listening to the HighWire.

Dr. Bartlett said that we had Sars 2 beat in Jan. the curve was flatten and here it comes again.
He said he had spoken to a lot of high up people and it is time to think outside the box.

He said remember where this first virus came from.
He hinted I think that they are still releasing viruses.

Dr. Z followed this interview and darn if he don't think so too.

prepaidcardstatus

Thanks for the information, I will try to figure it out for more. Keep sharing such informative post keep suggesting such post.

Benedetta

Well why would they not include that data of what PCR cycles "magnification, really" kind of test were used in all cases: were they the same in the; vaccinated and unvaccinated?

Yes; Bob they will respond to another scientist.
Or at least they use to.
When they have excluded data. Use to, and fill in the blanks for those asking. Oh, the good ol'e days.

Dr. Weiler points out that, if people got sick two weeks after a vaccination they were considered unvaccinated and counted in the unvaccinated category. Oh come on!

They think No one is going to read this report?

Oh, I think is worse.
They knew they would, but they feel so powerful that they don't care.

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Benedetta


NAAT vs antigen:
A Nucleic Acid Amplification Test, or NAAT, is a type of viral diagnostic test for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. NAATs detect genetic material (nucleic acids). NAATs for SARS-CoV-2 specifically identify the RNA (ribonucleic acid) sequences that comprise the genetic material of the virus. Genetic test could pick up anything that resembles and not be a virus

Vs

Antigen tests are immunoassays that detect the presence of a specific viral antigen, which implies current viral infection

That is kind of important to state which was used.


We live in crazy time in history. There was a time when you put yourself out there for really smart peers to read yours stuff, and you did not want to look stupid. Now it is really all about just seeing which of your colleagues are gullible and you be the smart, corrupt one. .

Benedetta

I am having a hard time concentrating on what Dr. Weiler is writing because of the news.

if you live in New Jersey I am sorry about the tornado and flooding.
AND EVEN MORE sorry that you have a bunch of politicians ready to feed up on the tax payer -and you by using this tragedy.
They have harped on global warming and infrastructure bill in every other statement.

They are chomping on the bit to use this and feed upon us all.

Tornados never ever happened in New Jersey before, or flooding?
There is a long history of hurricanes going inland and causing all kinds of bad weather. Long history.

War of 1812 with the British when they burned Washington a hurricane hit and a tornado took out a whole bunch of soldiers camped out in tents. Hurricane of 1938 of New England; when famed actress Katharine Hepburn found herself in danger. My Mother-in-law from Peekskill, NY lived through a horrible hurricane.

We have those in power over us, trying to scare us into obedience.

People needs to listen more to the weather channel more, and how to save a bar less. (Yes, my husband loves that bar rescue show) ????

The weather channel loves to tell the history of past hurricanes.

How does that relate to this article.
Like this letter they are abusing science, for their own greed.

Hans Litten

https://pheedloop.com/AutismOne2021Conference/site/home/

AUTISM ONE starts today

Bob Moffit

Just guessing here .. but I suspect Dr Lyons-Weller shouldn't expect a response any time soon .. just guessing.

Angus Files

The fascist Government in Scotland kick off!! delighted are they "a vote" hardly when you have the majority. rubber stamp thats all.

As the statistics above I wish they would tell the truth just once.

Absolute disgrace' Nicola Sturgeon slammed by Glasgow nightclub boss over covid vaccine passport plan
Donald MacLeod, owner of legendary nightspots The Garage and The Cathouse, says the sector has been unfairly singled out and treated with 'contempt'

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/absolute-disgrace-nicola-sturgeon-slammed-24892656


Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

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