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There's Only One Lifestyle Choice that Matters with Covid

Health appleToday's post is excerpted from Children's Health Defense. Businesses across the USA are starting to mandate Covid vaccination.  A local day and residential program service provider is mandating by mid-October.  They will review exemptions, but 3AD9B973-C366-4983-9564-216DD2EAAA45unvaccinated employees, contractors or board members will be subject to twice weekly testing. The vaccinated CAN contract and spread COVID - but they do NOT need to be tested unless they have symptoms. I see a false security looming. Delta Airlines plans to charge a $200 health insurance penalty to the unvaccinated.  Folks on Facebook are saying "smokers pay a penalty on life insurance, so it's OK." Will actuarial tables be applied to every aspect of life? Meantime, we are a nation rife with obesity - the reason for myriad health issues - which then predict severe Covid. Why haven't we encouraged Americans to LOSE WEIGHT since Spring 2020? At just 5 pounds a month, Americans could have lost some 85 pounds. And greatly improved their health. Lifestyle choices are MORE than whether or not you get vaccinated.

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Dr. Peter McCullough Tells RFK, Jr.: ‘The Vaccines Are Failing’

On the “RFK, Jr. The Defender Podcast,” Dr. Peter McCullough discussed a new study by the Oxford University Clinical Research Group and how the Pfizer’s vaccine, at 17% to 42% efficacy, doesn't meet the regulatory standard of 50% efficacy for vaccines.

Why is the world experiencing such a “prominent outbreak” of the Delta variant when so many people have been vaccinated?

Dr. Peter McCullough, a consultant, cardiologist and vice chief of medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, Texas, addressed those questions and more on the “RFK Jr. The Defender Podcast.”

New research shows people who are vaccinated against COVID are more susceptible to the Delta variant, said McCullough, pointing to a pre-print study by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group published Aug. 10 in The Lancet.  Read more here.

Comments

Hera

Thank you, Kim, and also for all you do keeping this site up. It is a beacon of hope.

Emmaphiladelphia

@Ronald N. Kostoff

Thanks for the link.
Archived it.

Ronald N. Kostoff

Dr. Mercola lays out the Israeli data today:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/08/30/fully-vaccinated-covid-deaths.aspx?ui=ed4e0d6f2099effe288564c9e36b085b8d16a8cf31a91d8440bab3019033b936&sd=20150611&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210830&mid=DM979511&rid=1250090264

"As of August 15, 2021, 68% of COVID patients admitted to hospital in the U.K. who were over the age of 50 had received one or two doses of COVID injections. By mid-August, 59% of serious cases in Israel were also among those who had received two COVID injections, mirroring U.K. data

Only in the 50 and younger category were a majority, 74%, of British COVID patients unvaccinated. Those claiming we’re in a pandemic of the unvaccinated fail to differentiate between age groups

The same applies to COVID deaths in the U.K. Unvaccinated make up the majority of deaths only in the under-50 age group. In the over-50 group, the clear majority, 70%, are either partially or fully “vaccinated”

We cannot rely on U.S. data to get a clear idea of how the COVID shots are working, as the CDC has chosen to only track breakthrough cases that result in hospitalization and/or death

Reanalysis of Pfizer’s, Moderna’s and Janssen’s COVID trial data using the proper endpoint show the shots are hurting the health of the population, and if mass vaccination continues we face “a looming vaccine-induced public health catastrophe”

A new study shows that vaccinated individuals are up to 13 times more likely to get infected with the new Delta variant than unvaccinated individuals who have had a natural COVID infection"

My only argument is with his statement "and if mass vaccination continues we face “a looming vaccine-induced public health catastrophe". In truth, even if mass inoculation were to stop today, we still would face a looming vaccine-induced public health catastrophe from the inoculations already given. With additional first inoculations and the coming boosters, we will get a catastrophe ^2! The only "boosting" from the inoculations will be the death rate.

Frederic Chopin

OK Emma, quote the sentence(s) in the 2nd paragraph that say that.

Emmaphiladelphia

@Frederick Chopin

The study was funded by Wellcome Trust, so of course you say it is a "false statement."
I can't help you with reading comprehension and logical deduction based on knowledge of viral load and probability of disease. It's all there in the second paragraph. Also, this is a pre-print. It hasn't been officially peer reviewed. Let's see if other scientists agree with you.

Kim asking commenters to sto

Her, I agree with you. I removed the comment. We have commenters who name call, finger point and suggest innuendo - it needs to stop. Some commenters leave librettos as comments, long missives full of links. It’s too much. We try to allow very freewheeling commenting moderation. It’s not always successful.

Emmaphiladelphia

This is starting to go mainstream....

There’s Definitely Something Very Wrong with Pfizer-BioNTech’s ‘Full Authorization’ Docs
https://beckernews.com/44-new-docs-41120/

https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/definitely-something-wrong-pfizer-biontechs-full-authorization-docs/

FDA Ignores Both Science and Law
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243355

sefischer1

I've noticed average COVID vaccine compliant foks often self-labeling with the term: "I've been vaxxed". I recently explained that this term: "vaxxed" has a bit of cultural history. For almost 20 years, the parents of vaccine injured children have been engaged in a David and Goliath battle for vaccine safety. An excellent documentary called "VAXXED" was made several years ago. The title seems to be a not so subtle play on "FUCKED" This received considerable attention and the wave of Pharma propaganda, that followed, co-opted the term, and like much of the "too-woke" labeling, anyone who even questions anything about vaccine safety is now an "anti-vaxxer" That wave of pejorative propaganda seems to have led to those who choose to comply, to feel morally superior, donning the non-pejorative moniker of "vaxxed" A full 360 degree co-opting of a term from meant to elicit alarm, to one of social virtue.

Frederic Chopin

Emma,
"New research shows people who are vaccinated against COVID are more susceptible to the Delta variant", said McCullough, pointing to a pre-print study by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group published Aug. 10 in The Lancet.
That's a false statement. If you disagree show me in the paper where they said that.

Benedetta

Hey Fredrick.
LOL.
Your link takes me to a page that says it cant found.

Sounds about right to me.

Emmaphiladelphia

@Frederic Chopin

From your scholarly NBC article:

"U.S. officials hope the Food and Drug Administration granting Pfizer and BioNTech's Covid vaccine full approval will persuade some unvaccinated Americans to finally get the shots."
LOL! HaHaHa! LOL!

Now, please give us the link to the original CDC report. I don't trust any facts filtered through the MSM rag. I believe Del debunked this big time on The HighWire. Something about counting the no-shot group with the incomplete shot group. They also quit testing the vaxxed for Covid, but did test the unvaxxed. And I also recall something about most of the population was unvaxxed (they hadn't made them widely available at that time) during 2/3rds of the data collection time. As we all know, figures don't lie, but liars figure. Just the raw data please.

Benedetta

Emma;
I read and know that they have one type of vaccine the FDA approved - what two weeks ago?

I don't think this is, well it much matters.
From what I am reading two different companies got together; joined their vaccine manufacturing know how, and renamed the same vaccine they were using - and that renamed vaccine got approved by the FDA, but they are saying everything is identical, the same.

What every it is, or who ever it is made by; Immunological enhancement is up on those vaccinated; just like them there minks. .

Fredrick; CDC director's quote and my relation to my personal immunological theory (is not my theory) That was what was happening in the 1960s when they tried to get a vaccine for the common cold, happened again in 2006 or when ever - on forward till today as they buried children, minks and Chinese adults, and they don't mind burying you either. One would almost think it is really their end game at times. .

Frederic Chopin

Hera,
Here’s a good link for you
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html

Emmaphiladelphia

@ Frederic Chopin

Here's the info you weren't able to locate:

It turns out that Pfizer did THEIR OWN shelf life studies which were rubber stamped by the FDA. So why did they originally make it 6 months? What changed for them to decide that 9 months is OK?

"EUA AMENDMENT –
CONCURRENCE August 22, 2021

In summary, your amendment provides information and data to support the extension of
shelf-life of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine stored at -90º to -60ºC from 6 months
to 9 months. We confirm that the concurrence on extending the shelf-life from 6 months
to 9 months when stored at -90º to -60ºC is also applicable to batches that might have
expired prior to the issuance of this concurrence letter provided they have been stored
at -90º to -60ºC.
We have completed our review and based on the information submitted, we concur with
this change. "

If a group like The HighWire wants to do a FOIA request for Pfizer's documents on this, there is a name and phone number listed in the letter.
https://www.fda.gov/media/151731/download

Frederic Chopin

Emma,
I'm pointing out Peter McCullough's false statement. I'm not here to help you obtain a COVID vaccine (although I highly recommend one).

Hera

Hi Benedetta,

Thanks for the reminder re how hard it is to realize that those in power you trust to make medical decisions can be misinformed /and or don't always have any concern for your best interests. It is horrifying when you first realize that all the soothing "everything will be fine" comments are not based on fact, and that when things do go pear shaped, they don't care and don't have a plan to fix it beyond trying to shut you up.

Hi Frederic,
To be clear, I was referencing your whole comment "Research shows...they all recovered uneventfully"
Real life data of deaths, hospitalizations, and long covid cases from vaccinated breakthrough, show infected vaccinated people definitely do not "all recover uneventfully" .
From the data that we have from Israel and here, what seems to have happened is
1. The spike protein vaccines did protect from covid for about 4 or 5 months after double vaccination. During that time, they caused some cases of allergic reactions, myocarditis, heart inflammation, clotting, strokes ( from blood clots) and heart attacks (from untreated myocarditis or clots). Long term effects, no one knows.
2.Also, in the same time period, sudden death in young healthy individuals who have been vaccinated are anecdotally increasing.
The unvaccinated were getting hospitalized/sicker than the vaccinated at that point.

The virus then did what viruses do; adapt to the immune systems that were vaccinated, and so could only attack a certain part of the virus, and produce a delta variant.

Suddenly, vaccinated people started over the last several weeks getting sick, hospitalized, and sometimes dying.

The CDC suddenly found itself unable to collect real time data on vaccinated deaths and hospitalizations.

They also suddenly decided that A) the vaccine works really really well!
and B) boosters are needed, for those vaccinated 8 months ago who are vulnerable , like now!! and they should wear masks. And social distance. Oh, and mandate vaccines for everyone else so the control group goes away...

Meanwhile, the CDC did not push the monoclonal antibodies( it took DeSantos to do that) which could have saved lives ( a vaccine on every corner, but no one knows where to get monoclonal antibodies in most states)

They provided hospitals with a treatment protocol to use that is currently resulting in many deaths, and have not revised it to make it safer.

They have attacked any doctor trying new, and anecdotally better treatments as having the potential to "cause harm" while hospitals proudly boast about the specifics of unvaccinated patients who have died in their wards.

The vaccinated who die are only recorded as numbers, and numbers which most states are surprisingly choosing not to track.

Meanwhile, however bad it gets, and no matter what future data shows, it is my opinion that the chance of the CDC ever saying " Well, the vaccinated are now more at risk of hospitalization and death than the unvaccinated" is close to nil. That , imo would be the same as saying "Well, I presided over the biggest human caused medical disaster in history." It takes an incredibly brave, honest person to do that, and I don't know, realistically, how many of any of us, put in that situation would be willing to do that. Hoping someone will show that kind of courage, if needed.

Emmaphiladelphia

@Frederic Chopin

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-august-24-2021
“For Immediate Release:
August 24, 2021

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today announced the following actions taken in its ongoing response effort to the COVID-19 pandemic:
• On Aug. 22, the FDA updated the Pfizer-BioNTech emergency use authorization (EUA) to support the extension of shelf-life of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine stored at -90 degrees to -60 degrees Celsius from 6 months to 9 months. The extension is also applicable to batches that might have expired prior to the EUA amendment, provided the product was stored at the same temperatures."

WHERE IS THE SAFETY DATA ON USING Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine THREE MONTHS AFTER THE EXPIRATION DATE? Is this so they don't have to ship BioNTech Comirnaty while it is only FDA licensed (no government liability coverage) and to "use up" all the UNCLAIMED jabs the Biden admin ordered?

BTW, you conveniently never responded to my previous post. Why?

"@Frederick Chopin

Where can I get an FDA licensed "BioNTech Comirnaty" shot for Covid 19?

I don't want the leftover (expired?) experimental EUA Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.
If I'm injured by the Comirnaty shot, I can directly sue BioNTech.....unless they have been designated a Federal "taxable vaccine". In that case, I would have 3 years to take my case to the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act established "vaccine court" and roll the dice that my injury is on their covered Table of Vaccine injuries.

Alas, anyone under the age of 16 is out of luck. Their ONLY option is the leftover (expired?) experimental EUA Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. If they are injured? They have only one YEAR TO FILE A CLAIM TO THE VASTLY INFERIOR Federal compensation program. Much smaller capped payouts and Very few have ever won a case. GOOD LUCK!

To see vaccine risks and excluded groups (not enough data for a safety profile) check out the Comirnaty "package insert" here: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine

For the experimental EUA Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, THERE IS NO INSERT. It's experimental.

For the Vaccine Hesitant:
DEMAND ONLY the FDA licensed "BioNTech Comirnaty" shot for Covid 19 that is NOT a "taxable vaccine." This way you can DIRECTLY SUE THE MANUFACTURER in a regular court of law if you are injured by the product. ALL SHOTS MUST BE LABELED ""BioNTech Comirnaty." Do not accept an inferior product!"

Frederic Chopin

Benadetta,
Your quote from her doesn't seem to have a relation to your personal immunological theory.

Emmaphiladelphia

This Governor is the ultimate poster child for Covid high risk category....

"Illinois Gov. Pritzker Orders Masking of Toddlers, Vaccine Requirement for Teachers
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/27/illinois-gov-pritzker-orders-masking-of-toddlers-vaccine-requirement-for-teachers/

Masking up will prevent him from eating 20 burgers/day.
Masking is healthy.

benedetta

Fredrick;
I am honest to a fault.
I have been over my head and swim really hard to stay on top. I work hard at it.
After saying that, I have to say this:


I am so very sorry!
I know how it is to trust.
To go against our raising.
To find out that the world around us is not what we thought.
I have been at this so long, I some times even forget what that was like.

So let us start with this one thing and build up on that.

If you get vaccinated for a disease, and get the disease anyway: it will be a milder disease; that is you won't be as sick as if you did not get vaccinated and got the disease. That is so untrue.

Fredrick:

I am quoting what she said in the video, so it won't be out of context or you think it is out of context.

. Our Dr. Rochelle Walensky the CDC Director Quote:

"Our top priority is to save lives and prevent severe infection. The data that we will publish today and next week demonstrates vaccine effectiveness against SARS covid 2 infection is waning. Even though our vaccine is currently working well we are seeing evidence of waning vaccine effectiveness over time, and the Delta variant.

Additional reports of our international colleagues including Israel suggest increase risk of severe disease amongst those vaccinated early.

Given this body of evidence we are concerned that the current strong protection against strong infection, hospitalization , and death could decrease in the coming months. Especially among those of higher risk or vaccinated earlier in the phases of our vaccination roll out."


How could this be Fredrick.
Well, they kind of know. It is in the immunological books.
There are different kinds of antibodies that our bodies make.

One type stops the viruses from entering the cells They are neutralizing antibodies.
Vaccines can cause our immune cell to make less of them, perhaps so more other kinds of antibodies can be made, lie binding antibodies. These antibodies, bind onto the virus and usher it right on into the cell. I am sure that there is some trick of evolution that the binding antibodies have been able to succeed in destroying or controlling a virus, but there must be something we do not know because it has proved a great problem for scientists.

This maybe what is going on with the DPT vaccine as well. Because of research in Africa showing that the DPT vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated -children die larger number - a lot larger from other diseases. I know that my kids seem to catch every virus, strep throat, bacteria, flu and got sicker with it than most of other kids.

Laura Hayes

A picture is worth a thousand words, or in this case, a meme.

file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/86/06/10D786CB-8608-4E15-AA90-FA7F7D9792AD/IMG_4180.png

Ronald N. Kostoff

Benedetta,

Let's try again; Zelenko at his best.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ECHZWVneXFcL/

Angus Files

Chop heres a real hero a winner someone that can see past her bank balance and see the trees of humanity, unlike you.

Liverpool salon owner with sign banning masks fined £13k for leading anti-lockdown protest
A LIVERPOOL-based salon owner has been fined almost £13,000 for breaching coronavirus lockdown rules last year, and failed to show up in court.
Julie Saunderson, owner of Skin Kerr in Bootle, is said to have left her home on November 21 to "direct and engage" hundreds of people on a march through Liverpool City Centre. The salon owner, described as a “Covid-denier”, was charged with being outside of a place without reasonable excuse, participating in a public gathering of more than two people and holding a gathering of more than 30 people.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1483115/Liverpool-news-coronavirus-lockdown-November-Julie-Saunderson-march-fined-court

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Frederic Chopin

Benadetta,
She ISN’T saying we’ll get sicker with the vaccine than if we had nothing at all. That’s my whole point. Are you being dishonest or is it over your head?

Emmaphiladelphia

@Frederick Chopin

Where can I get an FDA licensed "BioNTech Comirnaty" shot for Covid 19?

I don't want the leftover (expired?) experimental EUA Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.
If I'm injured by the Comirnaty shot, I can directly sue BioNTech.....unless they have been designated a Federal "taxable vaccine". In that case, I would have 3 years to take my case to the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act established "vaccine court" and roll the dice that my injury is on their covered Table of Vaccine injuries.

Alas, anyone under the age of 16 is out of luck. Their ONLY option is the leftover (expired?) experimental EUA Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. If they are injured? They have only one YEAR TO FILE A CLAIM TO THE VASTLY INFERIOR Federal compensation program. Much smaller capped payouts and Very few have ever won a case. GOOD LUCK!

To see vaccine risks and excluded groups (not enough data for a safety profile) check out the Comirnaty "package insert" here: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine

For the experimental EUA Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, THERE IS NO INSERT. It's experimental.

For the Vaccine Hesitant:
DEMAND ONLY the FDA licensed "BioNTech Comirnaty" shot for Covid 19 that is NOT a "taxable vaccine." This way you can DIRECTLY SUE THE MANUFACTURER in a regular court of law if you are injured by the product. ALL SHOTS MUST BE LABELED ""BioNTech Comirnaty." Do not accept an inferior product!

Emmaphiladelphia

Coroner confirms 44-year-old BBC presenter died from AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine side effect

"A coroner’s report has confirmed that late BBC Radio presenter Lisa Shaw died from “complications” related to AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine........Coroner Karen Dilks declared that Shaw “died due to complications of an AstraZeneca Covid vaccination,” or specifically, “vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia” which caused the blood clots in her brain."
https://www.rt.com/uk/533165-bbc-presenter-astrazeneca-death/

NHS plans Covid-19 vaccination for 12-year-olds that would NOT require parental permission – reports
https://www.rt.com/uk/533125-nhs-plans-covid-vaccination-children/

benedetta

Ronald the page is not found.

Hmmm?

Fredrick;

Don't worry about the link to the video of the CDC director telling us that we need the third booster because the two we had before ; will not stop us from getting covid, and we will get sicker than if we had nothing at all. Nope, no worries the problem will be solved by just making that one video not found.

That is how you do it when things are taken out of context, don't add on , but erase.
I am as always to wordy.
Instead of explaining what they were doing I should have just used the word censored.

Bob Moffit

"Folks on Facebook are saying "smokers pay a penalty on life insurance, so it's OK."

We should remember how the tobacco industry waged a war to convince public there we no evidence that linked smoking to lung cancer … when on for DECADES spewing what is now recognized as "tobacco science" .. the fraudulent industry paid for studies that denied the cancer dangers in smoking.

Today .. that very same "tobacco science" is promoting vaccines .. especially Covid vaccines … as being "safe and effective" .. trust us .. we would never lie to you would we?

All one has to do is read insert warnings on vaccines .. which should read VACCINES ARE DANGEROUS TO ONE'S HEALTH … as it appears on cigarettes ..

So .. to those on facebook claiming "smokers pay a penalty on life insurance" .. I would respectfully ask the DEMAND AN INDEPENDENT, SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF VACCINATED V UNVACCINATED STUDY TO ASCERTAIN IF BOTH POPULATIONS SUFFER THE SAME CHRONIC HEALTH AUTOIMMUNE DISORDERS ..

I suspect a true study of vaccines would prove them to be as dangerous .. if not moreso .. than tobacco. Already Covid vaccine safety is becoming a serious problem for those now urged to get a THIRD BOOSTER shot .. the first two obviously INEFFECTIVE in preventing or transmitting covid.

benedetta

Frederic Chopin ;

What else can I do, but listen to what she said about it all? Yea. .
What about you Fredrick? What else can you do?
I am sure there are more video out there, perhaps you can start a collection and listen to every word she has ever uttered and try to get what she said into some context?

Ronald N. Kostoff

Zelenko at his best (https://www.bitchute.com/video/ECHZWVneXFcL/)! Included in this interview are protocols, or references to protocols, that may be of interest to those who were vaxxed and are concerned about possible ADE reactions to variants. His treatment success, based on copious numbers of real patients and without NIH/HHMI/Industry funding, is astoundingly high, and he presents the underlying reasons for this success. Along with McCullough, he will be remembered as one of the Profiles in Courage of our era.

RNK

Frederic Chopin

Benedetta,
You’re doing the same thing - taking what people say out of context, making it sound like the vaccines increase one’s risk of COVID. In this instance she’s explaining why boosters are necessary. But I guess what else can you do.

benedetta

Fredrick from the science Lords' own mouths

Title: "CDC Director Walensky: There is an “Increased Risk of Severe Disease Among Those Vaccinated Early” (VIDEO)"

https://survivalmagazine.org/news/cdc-director-walensky-there-is-an-increased-risk-of-severe-disease-among-those-vaccinated-early-video/

Go on click it and see that head of the CDC - the black haired, black eyed female director is saying they got a problem.

It ain't going to be a lucky thing that you got the covid after getting a vaccine cause that makes the covid less severe, it is just the opposite.

They are pushing the third shot because that is all they can think of i to do now that they have this total mess on their hands.

Angus Files

Back of the bus Chop you haven't vaxxed enough.. coin dropped yet?

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Frederic Chopin

Hera,
"No, not at all."
No not at all what? You didn't say. You should read the study.

Hera

Hi Frederic,
No, not at all. You can read about hundreds of vaccine breakthrough deaths here in the U.S.
Israel is arguably one of the most fully vaccinated countries in the world. Based on their huge numbers of vaccinated hospitalizations and deaths, Israel is likely to declare their vaccine passport can only be given to people who have had three shots.
You, and anyone else who has "only" had "two shots" are about to move into the "unvaccinated, too dangerous to be allowed at the gym", category.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why
"The bad news, doctors say, is that half of Israel's seriously ill patients who are currently hospitalized were fully vaccinated at least five months ago"
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/08/israel-considers-canceling-green-pass-those-without-booster-shot
Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz said there was no justification for giving a Green Pass to people who had not gotten the third, booster vaccination dose.

Of course, who knows how long the booster will give protection? So far, it does seem, per the data, to give at least a week's protection, in that most of the third shot/booster vaccinated have not died from covid 7 days after the shot.
"According to the data, just 0.2% of the first 1.1 million Israelis who got their booster dose have been diagnosed with COVID-19 after at least seven days passed since the shot.
In absolute terms, the number of virus carriers who received their third dose is 2,790. Of them, just 187 (0.01%) were hospitalized and 88 (0.008%) developed serious symptoms. Fewer than 15 of them have died."
So, even after just 7 days, there have already been a few COVID booster deaths...
When does this all end, Frederic? If, as some have suggested, the boosters will only last a couple of months, then the virus will resurge in Israel around December. Are we going to be looking at a booster every two months til everyone is vaccine injured or dead?
With the anthrax vaccine, in the military, it often was not the first shot that caused the problems. Third shot was the kicker for many.
No one can actually know how long the third booster immunity will last. That would take a crystal ball. However, apparently crystal balls are the latest tools used in health care assessments. We are told, for example, that the health care organizations are able to predict fertility outcomes, vaccine by trimester outcomes, birth defect outcomes, and long term health of infants born to vaccinated mothers, all with no control group, and extremely minimal short term data. You know. as well as anyone else, that it takes years to identify infertility, birth defect and long term health outcomes.
Given the criteria that is currently being used to declare absolute safety in pregnancy ( someone was able to give birth, and sperm is still motile) alcohol, thalidomide, smoking, mercury and lead exposures must all be safe too.

benedetta

When the drug companies came out with those figures of 92 or 95 percent or, or what ever it was; efficacy.

Del Bigtree went over it, and said it did not mean what we thought it meant. Not at all. It never was ever that high!


It was a slight of hand figure.
And yet all the TV news shows and such went right along with it They Pounded it into the ground that this vaccine - you take it -- you never get covid ---t is 99 percent efficacy!

I thought surely some of these TV talking heads had some people behind them that would look at what was being said, look at the math; especially after Del Bigtree called them out on it.

Slap my hand over my head and roll my eyes. Maybe vaccine injuries have reached the brains of talking heads on the news channels and they have a math disability?

There was that nutty news man and his guest that said the mayor of New York had spent so much money on getting himself elected that each person of 300 million people in the United states could have all been millionaires ; if he had given it to them. I mean
Well I mean -- math may not be some one's strong point? But that was absolutely having a math disability. That man and his guest for now on when they start spouting anything math like, they should do it while sitting in a wheelchair.

Same goes for math in efficacy of vaccines.

The math on shingles alone is - for every decade over 50 you get a 10 percent greater chance of getting shingles, and the vaccine fails 10 percent for every decade you are over 50.

-- Americans are going to have to wise up in this area.

TOB

Amen, Kim.

The penalties levied against people who do not choose one of these COVID-19 shot series are completely out of proportion to any other penalties levied against people who (theoretically) cost the health care system more.

Only four states plus the District of Columbia still have penalties for not buying health insurance, and these typically max out around $2,000 per family. Jacobson, the guy everybody likes to talk about when they say mandatory vaccines are A-OK, was ordered to pay a one-time fine equivalent to roughly $150 today, for refusing the smallpox vaccine (https://reason.com/volokh/2020/11/24/jacobson-v-massachusetts-did-not-uphold-the-states-power-to-mandate-vaccinations/).

People who choose not to get these new shots, on the other hand--regardless of whether they've already caught and recovered from the novel coronavirus--are being kept out of public places, denied the opportunity to associate freely with others, forced to cover their noses and mouths, and made pariahs in the workplace (if they're allowed to work at all) by employers who force all their colleagues to wear masks around the dangerous! unvaccinated person.

Such a disproportionate response is enabled by the fear and go-along-to-get-along-ness of the general population, but it must be driven by some other force. We can speculate as to whether it's specific pharma individuals, bureaucrats enthusiastic for totalitarianism, or some other impetus.

What seems likely is that (hat tip to Bob Moffit and Martin Niemoller) the folks opting out of the COVID-19 shots are not the last ox that will be gored. I wonder if the folks not speaking out will be OK with mandatory annual flu shots, mandatory catch-up shots for the full childhood schedule on everyone born prior to 1990 who didn't get most of them, mandatory implanted birth control for unmarried or low-income folks, mandatory antiviral HIV drugs for single people, etc., etc.

A creative person could make a case for any and all of these. However, it is not, historically, how Americans have chosen to live. I run every day, and I think everyone would be better off with regular cardiovascular exercise. Because I'm not a tyrant, though, I would never ever dream of making my personal life choices, however wise and #science-informed they may be, mandatory for everyone else.

drymeadow

Let's face it, the covid vaccine has failed, miserably.
Vaccines are supposed to prevent disease yet the plandemic rages on and on and on....

I'm not sure if it's ADE, cytokine storm, or just a global clinical suppression but after two Pfizer shots, folks don't handle covid too well. Clearly there's a cardiac injury from the vax. Never mind the blood clots or bells palsy. No, the old human body just doesn't fight off infection very good after that stuff.

Bracing myself for the wrenching death reports as all government workers roll up their sleeves to keep their jobs and feed their children. About 35% of the workforce will be force vaccinated in the next 3 weeks. If they are injured, they're on their own. So are their children. And their elderly parents.
Workers can take the silver (job) or the lead (no job). Pfizer has learned from Merck, get them where they live.

Frederic Chopin

"New research shows people who are vaccinated against COVID are more susceptible to the Delta variant..."

No it doesn't. It shows vaccinated people had higher viral loads and likely higher transmission rates THAN THEY DID WITH OLDER COVID VARIANTS. It also showed they all recovered uneventfully.

Bob Moffit

It is positively frightening to see our public health bureaucracies .. vaccine industry zealots .. get exactly what they have been wishing for the last two decades .. a vaccine MANDATE for EVERYONE .. ONE SIZE FITS ALL .. CHILDREN, ADULTS, SENIORS, PREGNANT WOMEN, NO EXEMPTIONS .. NONE.

THE VACCINE .. UNLIKE COVID … WILL LAST FOREVER AND ONLY GOD .. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH FAUCI .. KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE OF MANKIND WILL BE AS A RESULT OF MASS VACCINATION DECADES GOING FORWARD.

If history is our guide … the COVID VACCINE MANDATE is going to result in THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF ADVERSE EVENTS … INCLUDING DEATH. FERTILITY????

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