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Tennessee Official Fired Over Parental Consent Debate

Dr fiscusAn interesting firing took place in Tennessee over parental consent and marketing vaccines directly to minors.  Whether you want the Covid vaccine for yourself or not, allowing children as young as 12 to make healthcare decisions for themselves without parental knowledge can be frightening to consider.  We can play devil's advocate. For instance,  if teens are going to be sexually active, obtaining birth control without parental consent could be seen as  verboten (to some) or common sense (to others) as teen pregnancy carries serious consequences.  But, birth control pills and implantable IUDs carry health risk. The risk of teen pregnancy for both the boy and the girl can be life changing. But what about Covid vaccination? Is the risk reward equation similar? Especially for a vaccine that is still in the experimental stages and has incomplete data on risk to children, including their future fertility and their cardiac status. Both scenarios depend on the parents' politics, upbringing, life experience, maybe religion and personal point of view. Troubling to me, is that I read that Dr. Fiscus was sent a muzzle anonymously in the mail. She perceived it as a threat to keep quiet - and who could blame her? But what if it was sent from someone telling her she should not be muzzled? Either way, it's intimidating  and I feel for her and her family, as she is likely worried about her safety. Just as many of us are worried about our kids' safety if vaccinated. And we know from muzzles. What a world.Nurse Tiff passes out

This firing took place in Tennessee. You might recall that Nurse Tiffany Pontes-Dover was vaccinated for COVID on camera during a press event at her Chattanooga hospital back in December. Nurse Dover fainted on camera. Without getting into cloak and dagger territory, her formerly active social media Instagram account was ceased, and despite thousands of requests for proof she survived, there are questions as to whether she is alive or not. Has anyone asked Dr. Fiscus if she has been in contact with Nurse Dover, as a former senior vaccination official in the state?

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NPR: She Says She Was Fired For Saying That Teens Don't Need Parental Consent For Vaccines

Tennessee's top vaccine official says she has been fired as punishment for doing her job in the face of political pushback.

Dr. Michelle Fiscus was caught up in a controversy after she passed along legal guidance to health providers saying teenagers do not need parents' consent to receive a COVID-19 vaccine shot — a position established by decades of state law.

"Specifically, it was MY job to provide evidence-based education and vaccine access so that Tennesseans could protect themselves against COVID-19," Fiscus said in a scathing statement about her firing. "I have now been terminated for doing exactly that."

Tennessee's leaders have betrayed the public trust, Fiscus said, accusing them of putting their own political gains ahead of the people's well-being. She defended her colleagues in the health sector who have been fighting the pandemic — and she notably took umbrage that a lawmaker had called the state Department of Health's actions "reprehensible."

Fiscus said that "the 'leaders' of this state who have put their heads in the sand and denied the existence of COVID-19 or who thought they knew better than the scientists who have spent their lives working to prevent disease ... they are what is 'reprehensible.' I am ashamed of them. I am afraid for my state."

Because of the pushback from lawmakers, Fiscus said, Tennessee is halting all of its vaccination outreach efforts for teenagers and children – not only for COVID-19 but also for measles and other illnesses.

Comments

benedetta

Wow! Andrea, Thanks for sharing.

I hate people like that.
I guess when I was very young I could have been like her, but how do you get any age on you and still have that opinion?

I wonder about doctors as well.

So they have decided to throw their patients in the trashcan to save themselves, go along and get along and get ahead.

But if she is spending all of her time arguing what they taught her in school on the intenet and twitter she is probably that ignorant. Never got out and really learned.

Sorry you have to put up with the fool.

Andrea

I had many encounters with "Dr. Fixus" on Twitter. I just thought she was your run of the mill Tweetiatrician I had no idea I was engaging with a Tennessee Vaccine Official. Kind of weird how much time she can spend arguing with parents of vax injured kids. How does she find the time? At one point she told me all the people with "autism" she knows are successful professionals. Like her optometrist. & she knows a lawyer & a teacher with autism. So if your kid is autistic & not successful you somehow blew it, I guess.

Angus Files

Thank you John, all unvaxed reaching a measles, chicken pox, immune response to the Covid naturally..

"Professor Spector notes that “new cases in vaccinated people are still going up and will soon outpace unvaccinated cases”. He suggests this is “probably because we’re running out of unvaccinated susceptible people to infect as more and more people get the vaccine”. Another way of putting this is that the unvaccinated are nearing herd immunity."

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

TOB

Jerry Martinez, it is just a matter of time for the frog (although I do wonder why the Powers That Be didn't condemn the big cats when they condemned the minks):

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oakland-zoo-animals-vaccine-covid/

Thank you for making me smile. Blessings on you today and every day.

John Stone

Thanks Angus-also
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/07/16/infections-are-peaking-nationwide-as-they-fall-in-the-unvaccinated-says-professor-tim-spector/

Angus Files

Vaccinated people now make up almost 47% of all new Covid cases, symptom-tracking app claims amid signs Britain’s third Covid wave may have peaked already
King's College London scientists estimated 33,118 people were catching the virus every day last week
For comparison, they said 33,723 people were getting infected every day during the previous spell
Professor Tim Spector, who leads the app, said cases were 'plateauing' across the country

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9790999/Symptom-tracking-app-claims-number-people-falling-ill-virus-day-FALLEN.html

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Hans Litten

Posted by: Frederic Chopin | July 15, 2021 at 08:45 AM

I had to look up the Scopes Trail, I didnt immediately know what that was.
Unlike you, we can admit what we dont know.

Anyway Fred, how do you think the Govts are hiding away all the death figures ?
Because I think they are.

Emmaphiladelphia

FACT CHECK!

@Frederic Chopin | July 15, 2021 at 08:45 AM

See how many details you didn't know about the Scopes trial:

Why Is the Scopes Trial Significant?
Here's a tidbit....
"Although Scopes never taught evolution during his two weeks as a biology teacher, and thus really didn’t violate the Butler Act, it was considered sufficient that the class textbook, Hunter’s Civic Biology, did cover the evolution of man. For example, the Hunter textbook speculated that in his early history, “Man must have been little better than one of the lower animals” and concluded, “At the present time there exist upon the earth five races or varieties of man . . . the highest type of all, the Caucasians, represented by the civilized white inhabitants of Europe and America.”
https://answersingenesis.org/scopes-trial/why-is-the-scopes-trial-significant/

Don't forget, Darwin's son was the founding member of the Eugenics Society in England:

Darwin and eugenics
Darwin was indeed a ‘Social Darwinist’
https://creation.com/darwin-and-eugenics

mwalimumtoro

Fredric,
Perhaps an apt historical reference, if all you care about is "science." Just five years earlier, in August 1920, Tennessee became 36th state to ratify the 19th Amendment, making (white) women's suffrage the law of the land. To this day, it remains the most sweeping democratic reform in American history. For all their faults, maybe the people of Tennessee actually do get it right sometimes?

Jerry Martinez

I could chime in with a serious question, but I will not. What I want to know is when is the Google weather frog(I think) going to stop wearing a useless mask? I guess the dangerous covid-19 vaccine hasn't been approved for frogs! Blessings!

Emmaphiladelphia

Would you take Covid jab advice from this 18 year old?
https://www.oliviarodrigo.com/
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1415381245459054593

Would Dr. Fauci clamor to get in a selfie with her?
https://twitter.com/joyngugi46/status/1415428755179323395/photo/1

Emmaphiladelphia

"Tennessee is also where the Scopes trial took place"

You might want to look at this video:
Genesis chapter 6 KJV - As it was in the days of Noah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Nuv7BmSi8

And coincidentally, in the neighboring state of Kentucky, an immigrant from Australia built a Bible sized ARK! "Walk Through the Ark Encounter with Ken Ham" https://arkencounter.com/blog/2019/08/30/walk-through-ark-encounter-with-ken-ham/

Is God sending us the same message today?
AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzW5_ipnOPU
"37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:37-39

benedetta

Fredric the Scopes Trial could have taken place any where in in part of the United States at that "MOMENT IN TIME"

Anywhere.

And yet it did take place in Tennessee - which means that the people were debating and questioning as in a true Democracy.

So you as usual have no point.

Emmaphiladelphia

"Dr. Michelle Fiscus was caught up in a controversy after she passed along legal guidance to health providers saying teenagers do not need parents' consent to receive a COVID-19 vaccine shot — a position established by decades of state law."

How could this be? The EUA law is relatively new, and the Covid jab is not an FDA approved "taxable vaccine." Why didn't she quote the law so that citizens could see if it is true? She is not required to listen to her legal "advice."

Looks like Tennessee will be competing with Florida for a free state to flee to. This is good news!

michael

Universal truism.

Democrats in the state Senate [DELETE: issued a statement saying the dismissal] "will put more lives at risk”.

Emmaphiladelphia

WATCH mass protests erupt in Greece after government bans unvaccinated from indoor public spaces & allows teens to receive jab

"Thousands took to the streets in two of Greece’s largest cities to protest new health mandates, which bar the unvaccinated from many public spaces and require medical staff to take the shot, as well as plans to immunize teenagers.
Large crowds of demonstrators were seen in Athens and Thessaloniki on Wednesday, numbered in the thousands according to the Associated Press, some reportedly chanting “Hands off our kids!” while others hoisted banners reading “We say no to vaccine poison.”"
https://www.rt.com/news/529233-greece-protest-vaccine-mandate/

We have friends in Athens. This is HUGE! See video.

greyone

"Fiscus is a pediatrician who left an established private practice, in part because of her fatigue in coping with patients' families who were skeptical of vaccines."
Oh, the irony.

Hans Litten

Corona Injection vaccine dead for little old Scotland has come out of a FOIA.

17-Dec-2020 --- 21-Jun-2021 5,522 dead 28 days after taking the injection.

So the 9k for the US seems very low (Ok Ronald how many is it really ? >50k)
The 17k for the EU is a lie - there I said it , and we all know it
And the MHRA is somehow 1,400 for the UK ? (is this a backward State ?)

Huge protests & riots in South Africa where people are now starving, protests all over France and in Dublin too.

Frederic Chopin

Tennessee is also where the Scopes trial took place, so it kind of makes sense.

Bob Moffit

It may surprise Dr Fiscus .. or perhaps remind Dr Fiscus .. that every individual .. children included .. have an immune system inherited from their parents .. an immune system that is as unique to them as are their fingerprints and DNA .. which explains why creating a "one size fits all vaccine" is not only scientifically improbable .. it is far more likely scientifically impossible. Who better to know a child's unique immune tolerance than the child's parent … surely more so than Dr Fiscus who does not even know child's name let alone immune challenges?

If we had "one size fits all" infant car seats, bike helmets, seat belts, etc .. they would be more dangerous to children if not made ADJUSTABLE to fit each child's physical needs .. adjustable to each child's immune system would be just as critical for the child's health .. the immune system far more complex than a bike helmet.

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