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Note: As if  New York does not have enough taxes, rules and penalties?  It's disingenuous to say that Covid vaccines will not be "mandatory." It's doublespeak. Gobbledygook. Sleight of hand, or mouth. LIES.  Sure, you don't have to get vaccinated, but......  then the penalties mount.

By Anne Dachel

Attention New Yorkers. Lawmakers are making plans. Notice the flat out contradiction:

Rosenthal emphasized that the bill is not the Legislature mandating that people receive the vaccine, but would give health experts the ability to make that call if necessary."It's to establish a process if there is not herd immunity," she said.
"Mandatory simply means you are going to be required to get this, and if you don't you’re going to face certain fines” or other repercussions.

Dec 24, 2020, Albany Times Union: New York ponders mandatory vaccinations if herd immunity fails
Competing bills on vaccinations emerge as health officials hope for an end to pandemic

Before there was even a campaign promise of an effective coronavirus vaccine, there were those who vowed not to get inoculated. ...

Legislation proposed earlier this month by Manhattan Assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal would give the health department the ability to require individuals or groups of individuals who are medically cleared to receive the vaccine if clinical data shows that “residents of the state are not developing sufficient immunity from COVID-19.”

Rosenthal emphasized that the bill is not the Legislature mandating that people receive the vaccine, but would give health experts the ability to make that call if necessary.

"It's to establish a process if there is not herd immunity," she said. "I'm very confident there will be."

Robert Rock, a partner at Tully Rinckey law firm in Albany, said a vaccination mandate does not mean New York is “going to go around and round people up, restrain them and give people shots.”

Much like other aspects of life — for example, it is illegal to drive a car without insurance and you can face fines and fees as a result — thwarting a vaccine requirement would have consequences, Rock said.

“Mandatory simply means you are going to be required to get this, and if you don't you’re going to face certain fines” or other repercussions, he said.

If there isn’t a sufficient percentage of the population getting vaccinated in order to keep the rest of the population safe, Rock said it would be reasonable for the health department to mandate the vaccine. The response, he said, must be measured, reasonable and proportionate to the problem. ...

It’s that concern and desire for bodily autonomy that prompted state Assemblyman John Salka, R-Brookfield, to introduce legislation that prohibits a mandatory vaccine.

“We thought it was incumbent upon us to come up with a bill that will give mature, rational adults the opportunity to do their homework and decide if they want to get the vaccine,” Salka said. “It’s a bill that allows people to make a rational decision on their health care.”

Salka emphasized the legislation is not “an anti-vaccine bill,” but rather allowing the public to make their own decisions regarding one’s health. ...

"I think every time there is discussion about a vaccine, whether it's the measles vaccine or the flu vaccine, you have to go over the facts that a vaccination does not cause Autism," she said. "The basic facts of what a vaccine is."


Gary Ogden

Fight. Back. We. Must! Throw that clown out of office.

Gerardo Martinez

Spot on Mr. Moffit. They have declared war on us and our precious children. Not to mention our very Liberty! Cant say it any more clearly. We need to fight and fight hard. I am slowly winning over skeptics in my family, but it is not easy. We have had the flu vaccine for over 50 year I think and the flu is still around. This is dangerous B.S.. Stay strong everybody.
Blessings for a a Happy 2021!

Bob Moffit

Government mandating covid vaccine should surprise absolutely NO ONE who has read the following:


"Vaccination is considered one of the most important public health achievements of the 20th century and continues to offer great promise in the 21st century. Vaccines save lives and improve the quality of life by preventing serious diseases and their consequences. However, the benefits of vaccines are not realized equally across the U.S. population. Adult vaccination rates remain low in the United States, and significant racial and ethnic disparities also exist.

"The US Department of Health and Human Services National Vaccine Plan (NVP), released in 2010, is a road map for vaccines and immunization programs for the decade 2010-2020. While the NVP provides a vision for improving protections from vaccine preventable diseases across the lifespan, vaccination coverage levels among adults are not on track to meet Healthy People 2020 targets. The National Vaccine Advisory Committee and numerous stakeholder groups have emphasized the need for focused attention on adult vaccines and vaccinations. The National Adult Immunization Plan (NAP) outlined here results from the recognition that progress has been slow, and there is a need for a national adult immunization strategic plan.

And so to accomplish the stated goals of the "strategic plan" instituted in 2015 the National Vaccine Advisory Committee was created and members of that Committee are listed in Appendix #1 which include but are not limited to:

CDC, FDA, HHS, IOM, NIH along with many other lesser known Federal public health agencies various federal bureaucracies including the US Department of Defense, Homeland Security, Dept of Veterans Affairs, Dept of Justice State, Federal and local public health agencies and governments.

Non-governmental "stakeholders" listed on the NVAC are:

"Vaccine industry, academia/research organizations, health care providers, health care systems, community immunizers, professional associations, payers and plans, employers, foundations, community and patient advocacy organizations, philantrophic organizations and the general public".
We were warned and the COVID PANDEMIC has provided STAKEHOLDERS the opportunity to achieve the determined GOALS OF 2020 to mandate vaccines for EVERYONE IN WORLD … isn't it convenient the PANDEMIC arrived right on schedule for STAKEHOLDERS to accomplish their goal??

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