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What does the science sayAh, Liz Szabo. Now writing directly for Kaiser Health. How many of us have been interviewed her in the past? I was for nearly two hours many years ago. I'm pretty sure she channeled Harry Potter's Rita Skeeter and used some sort of Weasley Brothers Mix'emUp translation writing system when "my words" finally made the paper. 

Can you imagine if the short-short-short terms results, so short they make the Oompah Loompahs look like Jolly Orange Giants are considered "so good" that the Data and Safety Monitoring board would green light the vaccine to the American public before testing is complete? As a moral obligation, no less.  Watch it happen. And then when medium and long term data comes in - it will be too late for recipients to turn back.  If the trial is stopped early, do the pregnancy criteria for the Moderna vaccine as an example cease to matter? Moderna, a company that has never brought a product to market. If recipients become pregnant or impregnate their partner, will we usher in The Age of Covax?

Male subjects of childbearing potential*: use of condoms to ensure effective contraception with a female partner of childbearing potential from first vaccination until 60 days after the last vaccination.

Women of childbearing potential* must agree to use or have practiced true abstinence** or use at least one acceptable primary form of contraception

True abstinence is 100% of time no sexual intercourse (male's penis enters the female's vagina). (Periodic abstinence [e.g., calendar, ovulation, symptothermal, post-ovulation methods] and withdrawal are not acceptable methods of contraception).

Acceptable forms of primary contraception include monogamous relationship with a vasectomized partner who has been vasectomized for 180 days or more prior to the subject's first vaccination, intrauterine devices, birth control pills, and injectable/implantable/insertable hormonal birth control products.

Must use at least one acceptable primary form of contraception for at least 30 days prior to the first vaccination and at least one acceptable primary form of contraception for 60 days after the last vaccination.

Women of childbearing potential must have a negative urine or serum pregnancy test within 24 hours prior to each vaccination.  Source Clinicaltrials.gov###

By Liz Szabo September 1, 2020, Kaiser Health

Fauci Says COVID Vaccine Trials Could End Early If Results Are Overwhelming

A COVID-19 vaccine could be available earlier than expected if ongoing clinical trials produce overwhelmingly positive results, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease official, in an interview Tuesday with KHN.

Although two ongoing clinical trials of 30,000 volunteers are expected to conclude by the end of the year, Fauci said an independent board has the authority to end the trials weeks early if interim results are overwhelmingly positive or negative.

The Data and Safety Monitoring Board could say, “‘The data is so good right now that you can say it’s safe and effective,’” Fauci said. In that case, researchers would have “a moral obligation” to end the trial early and make the active vaccine available to everyone in the study, including those who had been given placebos — and accelerate the process to give the vaccine to millions.   Read more at Fauci Says COVID Vaccine Trials Could End Early If Results Are Overwhelming

Comments

Hans Litten

Posted by: Frank Chambers | September 03, 2020 at 12:31 PM

If you are an honest man, then you clearly have not done the work to fully investigate the crime of vaccination.
Please fully investigate vaccines, and you will soon know, that this is greatest crime of all time.

I am being kind and honourable today, when I advise as strongly as I can to avoid this new vaccine and all the others.
Run For Your Life Frank.

If I am not "nice" you wont get to see my post.....AoA doesnt approve of attacks against our enemies.

go Trump

I would very much doubt the President is pushing for an early release of the vaccine. I am sure he does not plan to take one or give one to his family.

The powers that be could "send out a bad batch of CV19 vaccine" in late October. the poor effects of which would be placed on Trump.

Sad how little the President has done with vaccine issues, but it now involves the biggest pile of free money to the drug lords in history, who also own the Congress.

Angus Files

Dr Frank Chambers I like 35% of the American population support a race away from any vaccine.

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Kay Fabe

They haven't even published results on Phase ii results and haven't yet recruited 30, 000 guinea pigs for Phase iii. Also safety and efficacy can’t possibly be evaluated in a short period, and where are the animal studies evaluating ADE after reinfection. They were allowed to proceed to phase I without results but not meant to skipped entirely

Grace Green

John,
I am really beginning to think that most of this talk is just fear mongering. The BBC news today was reporting that some people were being "asked" to travel 50 to 135 miles to get a test. That would be totally out of the question for a large sector of our population (myself included), either because of financial, mobility, transport or disability reasons. As the suggestion is that anyone experiencing symptoms is obliged to take a test, the government is setting itself up for some inevitable civil disobedience!

Hera

Hi Frank Chambers,

If the vaccine is imperfect, as seems may be the case, and merely reduces symptoms, creating asymptomatic carriers, do you believe that all vaccinated individuals should be quarantined, as we do now for asymptomatic carriers? Or are you ok with them spreading the disease even though the vaccinated individuals do not themselves have symptoms?

Are you familiar with mareks disease, in chickens?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

The Mareks vaccine is widely used in most poultry. It is an imperfect vaccine, and allows chickens to become asymptomatic carriers. Because of this, the virus has mutated to the point that one version of it is now 100% deadly within 10 days ( worse even than ebola).

However,as others have said, should you wish to volunteer for a trial, or take a minimally tested vaccine yourself, that is without doubt your right.

Of course, there is also the chance, that just like the Dengue fever vaccine, which did go through all the normal safety trials, a COVID vaccine may end causing immune enhancement, and potentially killing some of the vaccinated when they are exposed to the virus.
If you aren't familiar with the Dengue fever vaccine, and potential criminal trials based on the deaths it caused,here is a link.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/dengue-vaccine-fiasco-leads-criminal-charges-researcher-philippines

I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Morag

The unsinkable Titanic set sail in a rush with two coal bunkers smouldering on fire .Was the iceberg just the adjuvant effect .
Many of the bunker stokers got off the pier and did not sail with it ,aye right off it !

Dance Band on the Titanic Harry Chapin You Tube,

John Stone

Science is pure

It is a very interesting issue. The version he is said have had the second time was a variant, but also he was said to be asymptomatic. I am a bit fed up wth "asymptomatic". Since when were we bothered about people who might test positive for a virus who are not ill. And even if the test is reliable, which is uncertain is someone in this condition, not sneezing or coughing, a risk. It is interesting but it also has elements of the shaggy dog story. We now have the prospect of total surveillance with the British government talking about testing everybody all the time, and if you test you will find things which are probably quite insignificant and may well be false positives but which will bolt us all down forever.

greyone

I don't suppose Dr Fauci will be overwhelmed by the data on toxicity, carcinogenicity, mutagenicity, or animal challenge testing; but it could happen.

Science is pure.

This is just one case and needs to be considered in that light, but a team in Hong Kong has determined that it is possible to catch the virus twice. If natural immunity does not prevent reinfection then any hope for the effectiveness of most of the attempts to create a vaccine will be killed stone dead.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88234

Irena

Thank God you are not going to vaccinate anyone since you retired!
What will happen to our already vaccine injured and disabled children if we are foolish enough to take that "experimental" and totally unnecessary vaccine?
Will we be manipulated into sacrificing our children on the altar of Pharma greed and tyranny?
Borrowing Israel's motto - "NEVER AGAIN!"

Bob Moffit

@ Dr Frank Chambers

"As a retired physician, I am shocked that you would be against a vaccine that might end this terrible pandemic. I strongly support a race for a vacccine."

With all due respect .. I hope you get your wish and eagerly accept the vaccine when it arrives … it is after all .. YOUR CHOICE .. as I am sure you agree .. to refuse the vaccine is OURS.

Curious to know if you are a pediatrician or not? If so .. would be curious to hear if in your distinguished career you ever had reason to submit a serious adverse reaction to one of the numerous vaccines you administered over the years? As I said … just curious.

Frank Chambers

As a retired physician, I am shocked that you would be against a vaccine that might end this terrible pandemic. I strongly support a race for a vacccine.

Elizabeth Hart

In my opinion there should not be a ‘race for coronavirus vaccines‘...

See my BMJ rapid response: Why do we need a vaccine for Covid-19? 1 September 2020:
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3258/rr-9

Bob Moffit

"The Data and Safety Monitoring Board could say, “‘The data is so good right now that you can say it’s safe and effective,’” Fauci said. In that case, researchers would have “a moral obligation” to end the trial early and make the active vaccine available to everyone in the study, including those who had been given placebos — and accelerate the process to give the vaccine to millions."

Fauci said people can trust the process, because all the data that outside monitors used to make their decisions would be made public."
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If past history is our guide … the PLACEBO must be clear defined as a harmless "saline injection" .. instead of the deceptive PLACEBO that is ALWAYS USED IN VACCINE TRIALS .. which is NOT a harmless saline injection .. but ALWAYS another vaccine or the trial vaccine absent the pathogen

I am under the impression that CHDF and Del Bigtree have already demanded .. in compliance with existing laws … the regulatory agencies require a SALINE PLACEBO … if not .. we can almost guarantee the PLACEBO will be anything but a true placebo.

Fauci talking about "moral obligation" and "transparency" is ludicrous.

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