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Doublespeak about Speech and Liberty by British Politicians over Hong Kong

Hong kongBy John Stone

The new security laws brought in by the Chinese government to control Hong Kong correctly brought condemnation from the British Foreign Secretary, Dominic Raab, and the Chancellor of Oxford University, Lord Patten (who negotiated the rights of Hong Kong citizens after the end of the British rule in the 1990s). 

As reported on the BBC:-

‘Mr Raab says the security law is a "flagrant assault" on freedoms of speech and protest in Hong Kong. He tells MPs it also risks undermining the independence of Hong Kong's judicial system.’

Patten told the BBC directly:

 “You can lock up people, you can’t lock up ideas," he added. "I still believe that the belief in freedom and the rule of law is going to have a longer lifespan than Xi Jinping’s extremely unpleasant, dictatorial, totalitarian communism.”

Without doubting their sincerity I fear modern Britain is also busy dismantling people’s right to free speech. The British government have been seeking means to harass people with dissident opinions about vaccination on the web, first announced by Boris Johnson last August and with additional talk of criminal prosecution touted by a newly appointed law commissioner speaking to the press in February. We have also have the disquieting example of Oxford University’s Internet Institute trying to decide what people may or may not talk about on the web, which is of course where free speech takes place in the modern world.

I am also afraid that when it comes to the courts the British citizen will not get a fair hearing on vaccination from judges who long ago deferred to the government bureaucracy, while any doctor who contradicted the status quo would get referred to the General Medical Council. Let there be no misunderstanding that even evidence about vaccine harm which would be perfectly acceptable within the US system is persecuted in the British courts. Meanwhile, the British government’s position on vaccine safety is based on humbug, lies, propaganda and a complete lack of scientific substance.

Of course, even free speech should have its limits: it is not alright to make things up, to slander people or groups, or incite violence but of course this is not what this is about. This is about silencing opinion where the state is on its weakest ground: it is the very essence of intellectual repression. People do not argue about this because they want harm to come to children or because they are ignorant or suspicious of science, they argue about it because every time harm does come to children they are abused, lied about or ignored. We may get censorious about China but as things stand the superior pose does not come particularly well from either the British government or Oxford University.

John Stone is UK Editor for Age of Autism.

Comments

Benedetta

Michael: LOL!
Comedy is only funny when there is truth in it.

John Stone

Michael

It is interesting to consider how much an argument which is supposed to be about science is actually about illusion.

susan welch

Michael, loved your comment.

Great to start the week with a laugh. Thank you.

michael

John, I can't help but think you are making the House of Gryffindor (and us) proud! We'll leave Fred with his friends from Slytherin. I think the BBC is broadcast out of Slytherin, if I'm not mistaken.

John Stone

BN

Yes, very important article:

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/08/bill-gates-global-health-policy/

BN

Excellent article on The Grayzone by two journalists about Bill Gates and his evil organisations and their plans ,worth a read.

John Stone

Fred

Paper burning of records evidently went on at the CDC but Hooker primed by Thompson was able to obtain the data (presumably because it was still on Thompson's computer). That the NIH would then twist the publisher's arm to retract the Hooker study is self evident. The bottom line is THERE WAS A COVER UP.

You are lying, as you very well know - of course, Exley had controls but they were from previous studies. You cannot just obtain this study material in quantities and Exley was subject to the same research constraints as anyone else. This is a shabby, devious accusation and you won't be allowed to make it again here. Exley has taken a stand on the use of aluminium in vaccines and unfortunately most vaccines have aluminium. For anyone who is not a complete jerk this is a serious problem, but not for you.

You have not made any useful points about Holland - you have just picked a sentence out of context.

susan welch

Fred, Hannah Poling, Ryan Mojabi, Bailey Banks, Emily Moller, plus another 83 other children have all been compensated for vaccine induced brain injury in the US. Valentina Bocca was also compensated in Italy. It may have been called encephalitis, but it led to what is called autism.

Are you deliberately obtuse - or is it in your best interests to deny all the life altering injuries and deaths?

Although I try to be objective, reading your comments on this post unfortunately makes me feel contempt for you. I am disappointed with myself and envy people who can remain unmoved by your divisive remarks.

Being of a Buddhist persuasion (and failing in your case), I really would not want your karma.

Frederic Chopin

Gary, William Thompson. We know the CDC records weren't destroyed because Brian Hooker got them from the CDC, and then the only fraud revealed was Hooker's epidemiological comprehension, as his reanalysis was so bad it was retracted TWICE.
And Exley has never used controls in any brain/aluminum study I've seen, and that, as well as his openly anti vaccine rhetoric, is why he isn't taken seriously.
So add Holland et al and you're 0 for 3.

Gary Ogden

Master Frederick: The Holland paper is one piece of evidence that vaccines cause autism. One. There is a vast amount, a mountain in fact of evidence, not least the reports of at least tens of thousands of parents. The fraudulently reported DeStefano Atlanta schoolchildren study, which fraud was revealed by Dr. William S. Thompson of the CDC. The work of Professor Chris Exley of Keele University showing high levels of macrophage-enveloped Al in autism brains. And much, much more. Biological plausibility and the temporal relationship between vaccine administration and regression to autism in an honest world would lead to outraged cries from scientists to investigate why so many children are suffering from debilitating brain injuries. But criminal operators like the pharmaceutical industry, the regulators tasked with policing them, and the political appointees who head government departments, who often come from the very industry they are tasked with keeping honest, are all too cowardly to endanger their careers by doing what is morally right. Moral cowardice is what we have seen in decades of CDC directors, in Anthony Fauci, in Francis Collins. And trolls like you, Master Frederick, whose role seems to be obfuscation and inventing straw men. You make me gag.

Beleaguered Autism Mom

Fred your grasping at one sentence trying to make it the main point when it isn’t, is the definition of cherry picking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking The fact that the vaccine injury compensation program exists and has paid claims for encephalopathy is proof that vaccines cause brain damage.

John Stone

Chop

“Holland et al is your best evidence vaccines cause autism”.

I don’t recall saying that, though it is an important contribution to knowledge on the subject, and full of interesting details, accurately reported. You are trying, in my opinion, a little too hard.

Of course, with vaccines it always too easy to deny cause and effect, giving rise to the hit and run culture that you are always so keen to endorse.

Frederic Chopin

John,

14 years with this blog and Holland et al is your best evidence vaccines cause autism - a paper by an anti-vaccine lawyer which she cautions "is not, and does not purport to be, science".

John Stone

Dear Angus,

Yes, I didn't notice that I had actually created a pun ("Chop logic"). As it is Chop told us his idea of freedom was simply being protected from Communism - you might ask what you were protecting from Communism, or even whether you were installing it by the back door.

John

Angus Files

John that’s a free thinking and a well educated opinion which is not allowed in Chop land.As Chop demonstrates only head nodding,flipper clapping,mindless agreement is valid.


Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Angus Files

"I imagine exposure to toxic chemicals as a armed services member of a civilian contractor can cause autism among other disease in the person and their offspring. Rarely a vaccine can cause autism but age of autism readers environment damage goes way beyond your anti vaccine rants."

The same toxic chemicals are present in vaccines. Plumbers for instance and industrial workers, armed services who work with heavy metals have a higher burden of heavy metals already due to the nature of the work. Accordingly, damage has to be present for instance to the reproductive cycle along with the rest of the body. Please don’t fall for the Pharma lie, it’s safe to inject toxic chemicals but in another setting, such as breaking a fluorescent light bulb laced with mercury you have to stay out of a room for 3 days. If you ingest through breathing or accidently eating toxic chemicals metals there is a chance your defence mechanisms in your body might filter out some of the potential damage.If you inject injected route one to the brain highway via the veins you have no defense mechanisms as they have all been passed.The arguments scientifically proven against i.e. mercury the 2nd most toxic substance known to man are cast in stone and these toxic substances shouldn’t be anywhere near humans .Never mind were not meant to think and be critical only the bank accounts of the ones who peddle the vaccines are protected. Vaccines kill simple as that; they never have or ever will protect anyone period.


Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

John Stone

Fred

It looks like good evidence to me - why would the government twist words and cover up if there is nothing to cover up?

Frederic Chopin

John,
Holland et al was Gary’s “convincing, factual evidence that vaccines do cause autism”. I pointed out the authors themselves expressly proclaimed the opposite, and now I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.

John Stone

Fred

The subject is the cover up, and what it shows is the cover up.

Frederic Chopin

John,

Other than the last sentence about not commenting on current childhood state vaccination mandates, paragraph 6 of Holland et al's introduction to their their review/opinion piece is, rather than a legal disclaimer, a sober acknowledgment that nothing they've written shows vaccines cause autism

John Stone

Will

It may have escaped your attention but my point was the politicians who pretended to care about free speech in Hong Kong don’t care about it at home. They don’t, I imagine, care about anything much but extending their careers and lining their pockets. I would actually have the time to care more about Hong Kong - what is happening there is dreadful - but what we used to account “the free world” or any vestige of it is swiftly disappearing before our very eyes. And, no, they don’t care about autism either.

Will

Who cares about Hong Kong?! When will the neo Conservatives talk about the danger to health and life of the unnecessary wars in Iraq and the rest of the middle east. I imagine exposure to toxic chemicals as a armed services member of a civilian contractor can cause autism among other disease in the person and their offspring. Rarely a vaccine can cause autism but age of autism readers environment damage goes way beyond your anti vaccine rants. Hong Kong and mainland China are seeing an increase in autism even though they recieve less vaccines the people in the west. If a family has a child with autism and the family move from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom (thanks to the British National Overseas passport) will it really help their child a significant amount?! I think not.

Morag

Thank you John ,yes the truth dosn't need to speak out of both sides of one mouth at the same time !
Chop ma wee chap, I feel a bit sorry for you .Ye hve been well and truly "goosed" again .just like Pavlov's lab rats . Over conditioning ? has left yer perception /perpespective that incapacitated you don't appear to be able to tell the difference between thinking and knowing !
See Notingham Goose Fair -Wikipedia
Caronavirus Carousel, swings and roundabouts no masks required? Fred better get off it at slow speed or he or he could end up coming right off-it !
Fred you could end up getting yersel in tae that much of "A Tizzy" you won't be able to spot the difference between Robin Hood and Dick Turpin !

John Stone

Fred

This is a legal disclaimer - it has no context in the main document, for instance what is actually said in it about the reasoning and integrity of the court.

As it is HHS HRSA officials have anyway disclosed:

"The government has never compensated, nor has it ever been ordered to compensate, any case based on a determination that autism was actually caused by vaccines. We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."

We are, of course, dealing with chop logic and semantics. The vaccine caused encephalopathy which causes in turn a medical progression (autistic behaviour, autism or seizures). But actually if there were no symptoms there would be nothing to compensate. I am sure you are happy with such tortuous and defective reasoning.

Beleaguered Autism Mom

Fred, These are for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XUM2gvfbW8
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/425061-how-a-pro-vaccine-doctor-reopened-debate-about-link-to-autism
https://www.icandecide.org/lawsuits/

Frederic Chopin

Gary,
If Holland et al represented factual evidence of vaccines causing autism, please explain why the introduction states, "This assessment of compensated cases showing an association between vaccines and autism is not, and does not purport to be, science. In no way does it explain scientific causation or even necessarily undermine the reasoning of the decisions in the Omnibus Autism Proceeding based on the scientific theories and medical evidence before the VICP. Nor does this article have anything to say about state childhood vaccination mandates in general."

Gary Ogden

Master Frederick: Here is convincing, factual evidence that vaccines do cause autism (there is gobs more, but I don't wish to overburden you for one day):
https://digitalcommons.pace.edu/pelr/vol28/iss2/6/
Please do give us all the available factual evidence for your (implied) contention that vaccines do not cause autism. Thank you in advance.

Gary Ogden

Master Frederick: Here's a bit of light listening for you. If you work for one of these two companies, you'll blush in shame at facilitating some of the worst criminal behavior humans are capable of. If you work for a different drug company, it matters not; they all engage in criminal behavior, and shamelessly so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRmIY9oWRP8&feature=youtu.be

Angus Files

China as always playing the long game as does Pharma.The UK are standing by and watching the people of Hong Kong vanish one by one.Only shallow words from our Goverment ministers master facilitators of the Globalist murdering bullies.Shame on them!

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

John Stone

Ted

Yes, thank you. Everyday the need to discuss things becomes more urgent: the more “they” don’t want the more absolutely necessary it is. Apart from anything there are now apparently more than 200 COVID vaccines in development - how should the public be excluded from scrutiny?

John Stone

Susan

I fear with Fred we are at the mean and twisted end - also I believe his institution is conflicted. There is no humanly decent reason why ordinary citizens may not talk about their experiences, discuss evidence, try and hold governments to account. Our governments know - although they pretend otherwise - that people they are up against in by far the larger part are the people who vaccinated. It is actually because the science behind the policy is manifestly in ruins that the tactics get dirtier and the ideology more totalitarian.

Of course, if Fred wants to explain who he is and what he is doing here that would be splendid. He claims special knowledge but who does he think he is?

susan welch

Fred, I usually find your comments irrelevant. However, your statement

'.... years online still trying to convince the public that vaccines cause autism just causes needless anxiety, death and disease'

is offensive to those of us who witnessed reaction/regression immediately after multi, liability free, neurotoxic shots. I am sure you know that what we are trying to do here is to make parents aware of the dangers, in order stop their families from suffering. The exact opposite of your 'causes needless anxiety, death....'

Please could you tell us why you insist on posting your divisive remarks? I am genuinely interested to know what motivates you to be so unsympathetic to families whose lives that have been forever changed by their experiences.

John Stone

Fred

It is just gaslighting families who have seen what these things can do

https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/12/the-echo-chambers-of-public-health.html

The governments are lying and we are engaging in fair comment.

Gary Ogden

Master Frederick: What on Earth is "dangerous online misinformation about vaccines?" Who is the curator of information? Surely the phrase "vaccines are safe and effective" qualifies as misinformation, yet goes unchallenged by government and media alike. What sort of nation do you wish to live in? One with a robust, free and open discussion of public policy, or one in which propaganda is the only acceptable form of information? We, like the UK, are rapidly descending into the latter on the topic of vaccines. Ominous that both Boris and Trump copied the CCP model in response to the Corona. The no-lockdown countries, particularly in Asia (Japan, Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore), have very low mortality rates from this.

Frederic Chopin

Airports, railways and fracking raise legitimate concerns. Spending years online still trying to convince the public that vaccines cause autism just causes needless anxiety, death and disease.

Ted Fogarty, MD

Free speech among physicians and scientists countering the political technocracy is drowned out or leads to loss of employment or funding. The truths expressed below are more relevant this year than last year with the vaccine contamination risks for other nations acting as Trojan horses. Very troubling times John, thank you for your writing.

https://www.informedchoicewa.org/education/an-open-letter-from-edward-f-fogarty-md/

John Stone

Fred

Just shows how intellectually feeble your argument is. People have the right to discuss policies which affect their lives: if they only had the right to support policies against communist oppression that would be way outside any normal democratic discourse. For instance, in the UK we have had arguments about airports, new railways, fracking - how safe they, how disruptive and this goes for government science on Coronavirus, vaccination etc.

John Stone

CORAM DEO

Thanks - this is very troubling, not least because it seems to merge legitimate comment on science and policy with racism, which is something everyone here deplores. We have here nothing to do with the far right or their agendas and if they are trying to say we are of the far right because we want to criticise government science or policy it is a deplorable slur.

I wrote above:

“Of course, even free speech should have its limits: it is not alright to make things up, to slander people or groups, or incite violence but of course this is not what this is about. This is about silencing opinion where the state is on its weakest ground: it is the very essence of intellectual repression.”

Everyone must be able to criticise governments policy and it is perfectly normal in a liberal democratic society for people to have different opinions without being called socially divisive.

Frederic Chopin

Apples and oranges, John. You’re actually equating freedom of people to fight communist oppression by a foreign power to freedom of people to spread dangerous online misinformation about vaccines.

Coram Deo

GOV.UK: REPORT LOOKING AT HOW HATEFUL EXTREMISTS HAVE BEEN EXPLOITING THE CURRENT PANDEMIC
We have already seen how extremists discussed the 5G conspiracy theory on fringe social media platforms… understanding and countering anti-vaccine conspiracy theories… a new counter-extremism strategy must include an assessment of how extremism manifests locally, the harm it causes, the scale of support for extremist narratives and how best to pre-empt extremist activity - this should also include assessing who is most susceptible to extremist narratives, in order to deliver vital interventions to engage and support these people.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/report-looking-at-how-hateful-extremists-have-been-exploiting-the-current-pandemic
This sounds very like communism to me! Wrong think.

John Stone

Bob

Yes,I am saying that the evidence presented in the vaccine court would not be accepted in a court in the UK and nor would evidence relating to alleged shaken baby syndrome etc. in a criminal court.

In the UK we don't have official mandates but the system is extremely oppressive in other respects.

Bob Moffit

@ John

"Let there be no misunderstanding that even evidence about vaccine harm which would be perfectly acceptable within the US system is persecuted in the British courts."

Just curious .. do you have an example of "evidence" of vaccine harm that would be acceptable within US system? By "US system" do you mean VACCINE COURT .. a COURT that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL .. created solely to deny citizens their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO SEEK LEGAL REGRESS IN CIVIL OR CRIMINAL COURTS?


John Stone

Thank you Susan, the hypocrisy is breathtaking if some of it is self-delusional - like the pettiest despots the mistake policy for truth and there is a whole governing class addicted to junk scientific beliefs while lining their pockets.

It is interesting to note that when I was writing to the UN rapporteur on free speech, Prof Kaye, the UN was preparing to enlist 10,000 Digital Volunteers to counter misinformation as reported on Devex;

https://www.devex.com/news/un-enlists-10-000-digital-volunteers-to-fight-covid-19-misinformation-97615

"'The phenomenon of misinformation on social media is “quite familiar” in the Baltic region, according to Andrejs Pildegovičs, Latvia’s ambassador to the U.N. The Latvian mission to the U.N. is partnering with the global body on the Verified initiative. “We have been facing all sorts of information sharing issues in the Baltic region for some time, organized by state and non-state actions, and we are all quite familiar with this sort of hybrid threat,” Pildegovičs said. The misinformation circulating in Latvia ranges from COVID-19 not existing to 5G cellphone towers causing the outbreak. Pildegovičs expressed concern about the trend of people protesting against the use of a potential vaccine.“The vaccine is not even on the market, yet people are already saying that the vaccine can make you sick, and other kinds of malicious, dangerous theories which undermine our collective efforts. Some of the information is targeted against the foundations of our democratic institutions,” Pildegovičs told Devex.'"

Plainly, what threatens democracy is when hireling politicians and crony bureaucrats are not made accountable for their actions. They can rely on the mainstream media to support the kleptocracy, so they appoint more and more busybodies to control speech on the web. People want honest science and they certainly won't get if they are not allowed to ask questions.

susan welch

Thank you, John, for this excellent post. The UK government's hypocrisy is unbelievable.

I don't say that lightly, it is so unbelievable that many of my friends and family are of the opinion that 'our government wouldn't do that'. It puts an enormous 'divide' when trying to get the dangers of the current situation across to people.

You sum it up so well - and I will continue trying to get the message out.

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