https://unherd.com/thepost/coming-up-epidemiologist-prof-johan-giesecke-shares-lessons-from-sweden/

"At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available"

Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO,

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3
Summary

Understanding adaptive immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is important for vaccine development, interpreting coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pathogenesis, and calibration of pandemic control measures. Using HLA class I and II predicted peptide ‘megapools’, circulating SARS-CoV-2−specific CD8+ and CD4+ T cells were identified in ∼70% and 100% of COVID-19 convalescent patients, respectively. CD4+ T cell responses to spike, the main target of most vaccine efforts, were robust and correlated with the magnitude of the anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgG and IgA titers.

“””The M, spike and N proteins each accounted for 11-27% of the total CD4+ response, with additional responses commonly targeting nsp3, nsp4, ORF3a and ORF8, among others. For CD8+ T cells, spike and M were recognized, with at least eight SARS-CoV-2 ORFs targeted. Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2−reactive CD4+ T cells in ∼40-60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating ‘common cold’ coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2.””””
Article Info
Publication History
Accepted: May 7, 2020
Received in revised form: May 4, 2020
Received: April 20, 2020
Publication stage
In Press Accepted Manuscript
Footnotes
Lead Contact: [email protected] (A.S.)

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Angus,

The Santa Clara County antibody study was discredited when it was realized that the researchers solicited subjects on Facebook. Those who thought they had had it but couldn’t get tested elsewhere were more likely to respond to the ad. They were not random, but caused the antibody rate to look higher than it really was in the general population. The new antibody study from Sweden shows that 7.4% of Stockholmers have antibodies. I just saw at Breitbart that the government has announced a low rate in the rest of Sweden, like two or three percent.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/23/experts-swedish-coronavirus-deaths-catastrophically-high-herd-immunity-not-horizon/

So Sweden threw away four thousand lives and counting which it could have protected. It gained the highest Covid mortality in Europe and by far the most deaths per million. And all it got for it was a lousy seven percent antibody rate in Stockholm. It’s tourism industry has tanked: who wants to visit a country where CV is running wild? Much better to visit one of the other Scandinavian countries which locked down. Didn’t even save their economy: most neighboring countries have closed their border with Sweden. Head epidemiologist Anders Tegnell seems to have had a breakdown, insisting that the antibody study HAS to be wrong, surely it has to be at least 20%. Sweden was supposed to have herd immunity this month! And instead all it has is four thousand fresh graves with many thousands of grieving relatives.

Covid is quite deadly enough for most people’s tastes, fifty to a hundred times deadlier than the flu. Flu has about one in a thousand mortality in symptomatic cases, while Covid in the US now is about 7% mortality, while it reached ten percent in Italy and Wuhan. Even higher in Latin America.

Antibody tests suggest that coronavirus infections vastly exceed official counts
Study estimates a more than 50-fold increase in coronavirus infections compared to official cases, but experts have raised concerns about the reliability of antibody kits.
Widespread antibody testing in a Californian county has revealed a much higher prevalence of coronavirus infection than official figures suggested. The findings also indicate that the virus is less deadly than current estimates of global case and death counts suggest. But some scientists have raised concerns about the accuracy of kits used in such studies because most have not been rigorously assessed to confirm they are reliable.

An analysis of the blood of some 3,300 people living in Santa Clara county in early April found that one in every 66 people had been infected with SARS-CoV-2. On the basis of that finding, the researchers estimate that between 48,000 and 82,000 of the county’s roughly 2 million inhabitants were infected with the virus at that time — numbers that contrast sharply with the official case count of some 1,000 people reported in early April, according to the analysis posted today on medRxiv. The work has not yet been peer reviewed.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01095-0

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@ Cia

Obviously we disagree on long term psychological effects of teaching children the entire world is covered with germs .. especially the people living among them.

To me what is planned for re-opening schools is nothing less than a PSYCHOLOGICAL government experiment in BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION of future generations.

Hopefully we can agree to disagree … I fear the day is fast arriving where "disagreement" will become a thing of the past … having learned in childhood we all must do as we are instructed .. how to act … dress … feel .. accept .. disagreement will no longer be an option

Bob,

I don’t know how long this crisis will last. The deliberately-inserted furin cleavage site, designed to make the virus much more dangerous, is a wild card. I hope that the virus and we will adapt to each other and it will become much less dangerous in a few years, like the Spanish flu and H1N1. However, the uncertain, possibly short-term immunity it may give at best, the wide-ranging damage the disease can do to every system of the body, and in a huge proportion of patients who have long-lasting poor health and disability, mean we need to be very careful and take it very seriously. Which most people are.

What is the alternative for the child? There is no point in trying to create a separate bubble for children, a carefree world of goodness, safety, and fun. In Italy, the doctor in the Catbox video I linked said that grandchildren were the major vector responsible for the death of the grandparents they had been in contact with.

In NY, there are about sixty children with a Kawasaki-like syndrome causing heart damage, contracted through having Covid. The boy in the NYT article I linked the other day said it was like fire in his veins. He’s been diagnosed with heart failure and many other serious conditions caused by Covid. Children are not exempt from severe damage or death from Covid.

I saw a movie twenty years ago, La Vita e Bella, about a man and his son taken to a Nazi concentration camp. The father tried to hide the reality from his son, trying to maintain the facade of normality and good cheer. But it proved impossible to do so.

Most children are doing fine under these special circumstances, and will do fine if they go back to school this fall following special rules for hygiene and social distancing, and masks. Even a little child can understand that the measures are to prevent invisible germs from infecting him, and that anyone can be carrying them without knowing it. So most children will continue to believe that the world is logical and comprehensible, and that humans can make and implement plans to ameliorate dangerous situations. They will continue to laugh and joke around even sitting or standing a certain distance from anyone else.

Isn’t it similar to teaching girls about the possibility of rape, kidnapping, and murder? My daughter when she was five or six would run up to all dogs to pet them and I had a hard time making her understand that that could be dangerous. Then I asked her what she would do if a man in a car asked her to help him look for his lost dog. She said Yes! I said No! And explained why not. But I had to do it many times. And tell her many times that there was no good man anywhere in the world who would ask a little girl he didn’t know to get in his car and help him look for his pet. It may erode children’s trust in humanity, but it’s necessary. Actually, this pandemic is easier for children to cope with than something like the Holocaust, with evil and malignity deliberately directed to certain groups, even the children among them.

I think in time, maybe a few years, I hope not longer, we can go back to the way we used to live. But children are part of humanity, they have to learn rules for their and our safety, and follow them. I don’t think the little child we saw was terrified, traumatized, or fearful. Why would he be? Think of girls and women who wear veils. They learn to live with it, and continue to experience the gamut of human emotion.

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are we treating children like rats in a maze?
all this vigorous intellectual product, masquerading as protection, prepared by pharma/data profiteers, purchased by taxpayer funded caches, and yet happily allowing the recently vaccinated shedding away?
like watching the Hindenburg on a loop.
oh, the humanity.

I think were all meant to ignore the CDC these days not that most on here believed a word from them anyways,The CDC is not running the show as it used to do glad to say. I can’t find any announcement from the cdc on the White House web site recommending the cdc guidelines opposite infact, As the Lancet was protesting too much. that the CDC has been marginalised by Trump…sad fiddle time.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/fulltext

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36,000 lives would have been saved in the US if measures had been started on March 1 as opposed to the middle of March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html?referringSource=articleShare

Yes, this is a projection based on what was believed to be reasonable data. How else could you do it? We really can’t go back in time, let the disease burn through unimpeded, decide what we think of the numbers killed, then rewind and maybe decide the measures would have been better after all.

If you want schools to open with no protective measures, you’d still have to do a projection based on what we know now, and give the numbers of dead or disabled students and staff both with and without the protective measures, for people to decide which they’d rather do.

The stakes are obviously very high. It would be extremely hard to make decisions like stop the economy, throw millions into unemployment, by taking measures to control CV to some extent. But I think we need to recognize the enormity of the stakes on both sides and make reasonable, adult suggestions.

Somerset, Kentucky had a particular virulent form of the strep last year.
It was written up in several of the local papers in the area.
What is a virulent strain of the strep?
Is it one that is hard to get rid of by antibiotics?
Or is it one that really hides out well from our immune system all camouflaged in our brain, heart, or connective tissue molecules?

So, what roles doe vaccine play in damaging the immune system, then throw them all together for a particular virulent strain of strep? If yo get the aluminum out of the body will all be well?

Only there is adult onset Pandas, and rheumatoid arthritis and heart valve damaged by -- well heart disease and young people being found dead from heart attacks that they did not know they had.

It is nice to be in a room with a bunch of kids your age, but I look back on my own experience and I did not get to know, really know but a few of them. Kind of over whelming until recess time and then it was great! I got to know my classmates only then.

Maybe we need to unconsolidated and then have every body meet up in the county once a month for a day of joy, games, picnics, and fun; maybe two days out of the month? Maybe every Wednesday or Friday? I don't know.

Then there is this little gem of knowledge; every year a child is suppose to obtain a certain level of skills, in math, reading, writing, knowledge about history and so forth. Yet the total of those skills can be learned in one or two short years!

So I am all confused about our entire school system which I have to admit that I just worshipped well into adulthood.

Just sent the email below to my email group, and thought I would share it with AoA readers, too, for those interested.

Subject: Will you be sending your child?

Important video showing how quarantine centers for children (away from their parents and homes) are being set up, how schools in Quebec will be reopening (saddening, maddening, and simply horrifying), how citizens will be injected and surveilled, and more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zg1cBWAFvM&feature=emb_logo

And it's not just schools in Quebec, it's schools and daycares in the USA, too:

https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/05/cdc-replaces-the-horace-mann-school-of-1838-with-the-harry-p-school-of-1369.html

Will you be sending your child to school or daycare as they begin to reopen? A few possible scenarios for you to consider before you do:

Someone at your child's school or daycare "tests positive" for "Covid-19". Your child is quarantined, away from you, in a state-run quarantine center. If you watched the video above, you learned that WA state is already hiring for such centers.

Your child says something at school or daycare about you and/or other family members that triggers "an investigation", which could trigger your child's removal from you and your home.

Your child learns to become robotically obedient to a dictatorial and tyrannical regime that doesn't tolerate thinking, questioning, socializing, human rights, religious freedom, healthcare freedom, or leaving the regime.

The term "DEFCON 1" has been in my mind all morning after watching and reading the above. Our liberty and way of life are under fierce attack, and we as parents and citizens need to be on high alert, already acting to defend our liberty, our children, and our way of life.

Laura

P.S. One more article worth the read, and worth clicking on at least a few of the many links provided: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/police_state_dry_run_a_huge_success.html?fbclid=IwAR2B-PAO9bI28MJIjpFNB1pUXm1LC0mMuHOKrJ4jo548PooGNO_GZ-AKXs4#ixzz6Mpg0xGFO

I actually, physically .. shuddered as I read "new" CDC guidelines for opening schools. These guidelines appear to be authored by people who are more interested in "controlling" our children's behaviors than "educating" their minds.

I am now convinced the powers that be are not waging a conventional WAR AGAINST DISEASE .. rather .. they are waging a well-prepared PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR TO CONTROL THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF OUR CHILDREN.

If successful .. one cannot fully comprehend what children who have never held the hand of a kindergarten classmate .. wore masks while sitting encased in a plastic "cubbies" during class .. maintained "social distance" of 3-6 feet during recess .. never sharing "communal spaces", supplies or toys with classmates .. never having experienced a "field trip", "assemblies" or "external organizations" .. daily health and temperature checks … while the PA system blares constant reminders to wash hands and apply disinfectants throughout day.

A generation or two of these "new normal educated children" is frightening to consider.

IT MUST BE STOPPED ….. NOW ….. IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THESE "NEW GUIDELINES" CAN BE INSTALLED .. IT IS UP TO PARENTS BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS WILL DO EXACTLY AS MANY POLICE AGENCIES ARE DOING .. THEY WILL FOLLOW ORDERS!!!!