Dear Cait from Canada, Do you think you are the only one who can spot half-truths and inaccuracies? If you think a business tycoon (known for creating a monopoly) is the best person to call shots in a pandemic, that is one person's opinion. IMO, we need someone knowledgeable about infectious disease transmission as opposed to the "he's no dummy" about money billionaire. Buying competitors to suppress alternatives was standard operating procedure for Microsoft under Bill Gates. Testing vaccines on healthy 18-55 year olds, (rather than older at-risk adults) and then ramming it into the vaccine schedule for children? That is the definition of tobacco science: A generic term for biased reporting of scientific data, especially which favors a particular industry's agenda. Would you mind sharing your knowledge of autism?

@Bayareamom: I think you were missing my point, which was that Levi Quackenboss's article is riddled with half-truths and inaccuracies.

I am by no means an apologist for Bill Gates — though I think the fact that he is not an MD and did not graduate from college is entirely beside the point. I mean, the guy got into Harvard, and then dropped out to start the business that became Microsoft — he's no dummy!

According to NYU Langone, the Gates Foundation did launch an initiative called the Covid-19 Therapeutics Accelerator, whose stated goal is to speed the identification and testing of potential treatments. It is at the very least premature to call this "tobacco science".

Thank you for the links, I will check them out.

Cia: I'm not arguing against HCQ by any means. It does seem to show promise as a potential treatment for Covid-19, and I would certainly give it a try if I knew I had been exposed to the virus. Although I'd be reluctant to take it longterm as a preventive measure.

I have a question for you and others. I have been following the global stats on Worldometers, and am confused by one thing. Among resolved cases, the proportion of deaths has remained pretty consistent (for the last week or 2) at around 21%. But the proportion of open case that are serious or critical has also remained pretty consistent at around 4%. I am not sure how to interpret this discrepancy.

@cait (all),

Must read article re Gates Foundation/India lawsuit re vaccine program from The Economic Times:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/controversial-vaccine-studies-why-is-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-under-fire-from-critics-in-india/articleshow/41280050.cms?from=mdr

Cait,
I agree that HCQ is not entirely benign, but it has been used for nearly a century and most people have no problems with it. The retina problems are usually only after many years of use. The Swedish man, Carl Sydenhog, had peripheral vision problems which were still continuing when he was interviewed after recovering from CV. He says that yes, it cured him, but it caused vision problems. I'd just say that everyone should be aware of the potential side effects. I think it's much more effective than C alone. They just discovered how it prevents CV lysosomes from damaging the heme in the red blood cells much the way it does in malaria cases, and this heme damage seems to play an important role in the disease process. Peak Prosperity has a new talk about that, up today, Listen to the Dead (autopsy results).

Getting back to the article itself, it disturbs me that Levi relies so much on half-truths to make his various points. His unsupported claim that Tedros is a warlord has already been discussed. Another example is the claim (silver lining #5) that: “The Gates Foundation got exposed conducting tobacco science.”

“The Gates Foundation is conducting a study on people sickened with COVID-19, to see whether hydroxychloroquine, the darling of the pandemic, is more effective than a placebo at saving lives. But guess what the placebo is? It’s vitamin C, which, in itself, has been a successful COVID-19 treatment! Gates has all of his eggs in the vaccine basket, naturally, and is attempting to defeat hydroxychloroquine in the media, so stay tuned for the results of his study to be released in a few weeks or months.”

First, it’s a bit too soon to call this “tobacco science.” Yes, Gates is very pro-vaccine, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t also hope to find viable treatments for Covid-19. He has plenty of eggs, and no need to put them all in the same basket. Second, while the Gates Foundation is one of the organizations supporting the research, it is not conducting the study. Third, the people participating in the study are not people sickened with Covid-19, but people who have no symptoms who have been in contact with someone with Covid-19.

And finally, while it’s true that the placebo used in the study is vitamin C, the dose is only 200-500 mg per day given orally, whereas the vitamin C treatment protocol that has been used successfully against Covid-19 is 1,500 mg given intravenously 3-4 times per day. Perhaps vitamin C wasn’t the best choice of placebo, but other common placebos are salt and sugar, neither of which is entirely inert, and both of which could adversely affect someone with heart disease or diabetes.

We need to remember that hydroxychloroquine is not completely benign. Someone I know took it for rheumatoid arthritis, and had significant side effects, including serious vision problems. If it turns out that hydroxychloroquine does not show benefit beyond that produced by low dose vitamin C, I for one would just stick with vitamin C.

The fact that Levi plays so fast and loose with the truth makes it very difficult for me to trust his conclusions.

Nursing home. Ah.
My, my, my put a bunch of old folks and sick folks all crowded together and give them a flu shot every year full of mercury and aluminum on top of it all.

What could go wrong?

My cousin had MS and so she was put into a nursing home rather young. Her mother put herself in the same nursing home when she became disabled. They both died days apart, both with the same illness that involved liver failure.
My other cousin - daughter and sister to them wondered at that.
I told her that that flu shot must have been a real kicker that year.
These nursing homes ain't natural.

Thank you, John, I agree. This is a very serious threat and we should not be in any way complacent. I mentioned that in NY the number of people found dead at home with signs of having died of Covid was comparable to numbers dying at the hospital of it, and were three or four times the comparable numbers on the same dates a year ago.

In the UK many are being pressured to sign do not resuscitate orders: old people, disabled people, cancer patients, and the autistic. In some cases doctors have signed them against their patients’ wishes.

But everyone should be aware that everyone has an agenda and will put forward statistics which promote their preferred interpretation of events. It’s still hard to understand how a civilized country like the U.K. could turn its back on those members of society it considers to be of no economic value and just let them die.

John

Is the problem here we don't know the number of mild and asymptomatic cases in the general population or when the infection actually started. Infection in the care homes can only happened if a carer , relative has passed infection on .

Cia,

The deaths to recovered percentage is the most unreliable number you can use and can greatly overestimate how lethal the virus is.

It doesn't in any way show us what percentage of infected individuals die. The US would have shown a 50% death rate at one time.

https://www.quora.com/How-can-the-COVID-19-death-rate-be-3-4-when-14-of-cases-figure-from-Worldometer-that-had-an-outcome-ended-in-death

https://www.quora.com/Update-Worldometer-shows-that-18-percent-of-closed-coronavirus-cases-resulted-in-death-not-the-3-governments-suggest-See-here-https-www-worldometers-info-coronavirus-Are-we-being-misled

There are several problems with that calculation and I wouldn't recommend using it at all at least if you want to get an accurate estimate.

If you want to make the virus seems as dangerous as possible and like a second black death pandemic then it can of course be useful.

The cruise ship data showed that around 1-2% of an elderly population died after infection with coronavirus and in the general population this will be a fraction of that number.

I am saying Cia; that pneumonia deaths are down because they are being counted as covid19.
As much as can be counted is being counted.
Just like as little as can be counted for autism, stats are being manipulated.

Are there really mass graves?

How do you know from where you are in Missouri?

Is that not the state that has the slogan "Show Me"?

https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/04/major-plans-to-re-open-u-s-surgeon-general-adams-dumps-gates-predictive-contagion-model/?fbclid=IwAR0fvWJkDsBkEk9-wlqkonMSZ31-M3j9XKi8YC7OGQsuRoIH011sTQ8lvFk

Also, we need to normalize what we mean in our statistics. I have said that it’s common now to give the death rate in the group of resolved cases, either dead or recovered. At this time, out of the total number of resolved cases, 21% have died. But most of the almost two million in the world who have been diagnosed have not recovered to the point of being considered resolved, so it is still an open question.

Many have a strong desire to establish that an unexpectedly large percentage of the population had the disease in December or January and is now immune, I guess to say it’s no big deal and we can now go back to normal, because that dilutes the percentage of acute and critical cases. Also that almost everyone else had an asymptomatic case throughout which gave them immunity. We need the data, we need reliable antibody tests which would give us the answers. Maybe different ones for the different known strains. Also, many who tested positive and recovered have tested positive again, and even died of it the second go-round. Maybe antibody-dependent enhancement? Maybe like with dengue, a much more dangerous case can occur on reinfection. And there’s some evidence that a mild case gives no antibodies at all.

We’ve known from the beginning that most, by no means all, of the fatalities have occurred in the elderly and in those with comorbidities (but present in the majority of adults). And that increased exposure makes it worse, as among doctors. Or Boris Johnson, who visited a Covid hospital without personal protection and shook hands with everyone. Or the large number of Iranian politicians, who received Chinese emissaries. While most were over fifty or sixty, they were mentally and physically active and vigorous. In many cases, we’re not talking about old, feeble, decrepit people who were already at Death’s door.

And we don’t know the effect of new mutations. The L mutation which traveled west from China has been much more virulent than the original S, and has killed many young, healthy people, even children.

I think a lot of this is from a worldview which trusts Nature, has not believed in the danger of many infectious diseases for well-nourished people, and the inclination to blame the pharma industry and its promoters in government for all the apparent problems. And I totally agree that the Pharma industry and its promoters have been guilty of many crimes designed to bring them profit. But infectious and contagious diseases in themselves can present extreme problems even for the healthy and well-nourished. And then what?

Nowhere else to post these observations .. so I am posting them here in the hopes others stumble upon them and think them worthy of considering

Last week on Del Bigtree's excellent show "Highwire" … I think I heard Del theorize the corona virus is not normal pneumonia type of pulmonary disease … normally diagnosed by "trouble breathing" .. for which the standard protocol for doctors is to place patient on a ventilator to 'help the person breathe". Del theorized the corona virus actually is a BLOOD infection that causes blood clots throughout patient's body .. this infection reduces the patient's oxygen transmission which in turn causes difficulty breathing in lungs. If this is blood disease and not a pneumonia type of pulmonary disease … putting the patient on a ventilator may be dangerously worse for patient then prescribing blood thinner medications to dissolve those blood clots.

UK PM left ICU after a few days during which he was NOT PUT ON VENTILATOR BUT GIVEN PURE OXYGEN INSTEAD. This would be what Del recommended last week.

Also heard a brief "item" that the NIH had given a few MILLION dollars to the same bio-weapon in Wuhan China where this outbreak had occurred???? If true .. WHAT THE HELL IS OUR NIH GIVING MONEY TO A CHINESE BIO-WEAPON FACILITY??????

Cia,

The comments you posted are not useful and are missing the point.

The study does also look at relative risks of various age groups so even if they were correct it still wouldn't change the part I quoted:

<65 years old and not having any underlying predisposing conditions accounted for only 0.3%, 0.7%, and 1.8% of all COVID-19 deaths in Netherlands, Italy, and New York City.

The study doesn't intend to calculate case fatality rates we already have other studies that do that, the criticism makes little sense because no one said that this data alone tells us everything we need to know about COVID-19, it simply adds further information that can be used for analysis.

Tim,

The protocol was interesting, very detailed.

The PM of Sweden said yesterday that they would be imposing more stringent measures. There have been 11,000 cases of Covid in Sweden with 919 deaths. Almost 10% mortality. Do you have a source for saying that 80-ibonta% of Swedes have already had it and may now be immune to it? They have just introduced an antibody test, but I don’t know how accurate it is or how many strains it can detect. I read yesterday that it had found 1.5% of Swedes to be immune, and 15% of Germans in one area. Is there any other way to assess immunity?

Angus,

Change.org is a George Soros-initiated group, and has very little power to change the course of events, certainly not at the WHO or the UN. On January 23, Covid was still just getting started in China. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. So far, no country has thought it was going to be disastrous for them until it happened. And then many have been willing to let the ship go down rather than take preventive measures. And, after all, SARS started off with a bang, many deaths, but not that many outside of China. And then it just disappeared, I don’t know why. I think many thought it would be the same with this. Remember the Chinese study which said that only the Chinese had the critical ACE-2 receptors necessary to develop a severe case, and usually Chinese men? We discussed that here, I as well, convinced we were in no danger for the first half of February.

China reported the new disease to WHO in early January. What should the WHO have done? Called off all New Year travel and celebrations? Locked down the country a week or two before it did? Probably so in hindsight. But in the US we had heard of it by January 15. Should we have prohibited Chinese students in the US from going home for the New Year? Or told them not to come back if they did? Maybe. But at that time no one either here or there had any idea what it would become. Should the WHO have advised the lockdown of the entire world in mid-January? No one would have done it. Many are still against it even seeing what the disease has done.

I think this is looking for scapegoats. This is what happens in a globalized world with constant interactions and interdependence among all countries. There are advantages and dangers. But beyond that, how could they have contained a virus with possibly a 5-aught contagion rate? Look at how the bubonic plague spread all across the Old World, how the Spanish flu spread all over the entire world, killing two percent of everyone in the world.

Nearly 1,000,000 people now,happy days!

Call for the resignation of Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director General

https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-call-for-the-resignation-of-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus-who-director-general

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Cia, 2% mortality on the cruise ship was among the highest risk group people above 60 years old.

Ioannidis correctly points out that that would mean an average fatality of maybe 0.3% in the population.

He appears to be right as recent studies in Germany, Denmark and Island found similar case fatality rates.

The virus doesn't strike randomly for the most part. Almost all deaths are found in people with predisposing conditions and advanced age.

Recent analysis shows that <65 years old and not having any underlying predisposing conditions accounted for only 0.3%, 0.7%, and 1.8% of all COVID-19 deaths in Netherlands, Italy, and New York City.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054361v1

I just read a little more about Tedros Adhanom. I would have to read a biography to learn the context in which he has made decisions. I found that he was discussed on High Wire last week. And that Trump is criticizing him for being on China’s side. I found that he is accused of treating the Amhara ethnic group in a discriminatory way for political reasons. And that he was/is a Communist. I found that he achieved many health goals in Ethiopia.

I can only say that it would be extremely difficult to hold any official office in Ethiopia. And that it was a saying at WHO, Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. When I was young and first got involved with Latin Americans when I was at the university, all decent people, at least in our perception, were Communists. My first boyfriend, Peruvian, had a poster of Che Guevara in the wall of his dorm room. He was very Catholic and a believer in Liberation Theology, which essentially was Communism. One Chilean boy said that at his high school the entire school sang Plegaria a un Labrador at the start of every day, a song composed by the martyr Victor Jara, which incorporated words from the Lord’s Prayer redirected to the farm worker. Even now I can sing it from beginning to end. Libranos de aquel que nos domina en la miseria, Danos la fuerza y el valor al combatir. Free us from what holds us down in poverty, Give us strength and courage to fight. Just to say that millions of good people have been Communist. The idea is compassionate, though it has not worked out in practice, but resulted in millions of deaths. It would be impossibly difficult to figure out a way to help Africa raise the standard of living for all. Which is better? Tell the world you have cholera and see Ethiopians die because tourism dries up or dismiss it as watery diarrhea and try to contain it and help Ethiopians as you try to contain and eliminate the problem while not publicly admitting to it? It’s not the case that we’re all in this together and honesty is always the best policy.

Everything published has an agenda. Right now it’s fashionable to blame China for the coronavirus pandemic, which I think is very unfair. Trump is angry because Tedros favors China at least in some ways. But China has given a lot of aid to a lot of countries, seeking to expand its influence and its power. I cannot fault them for that, although I oppose it. I cannot fault Third World countries for accepting it. So part of this criticism of Tedros, which did not occur when it happened, but only now, is an indirect attempt to tarnish China. Which is also a valid enterprise, to the extent that it is based on truthful statements.

I have seen no evidence at all that he is or was a warlord.

Just found this info. re the DOD investigation on Dr. Redfield (below). Regardless as to the info. I amnow discovering on True Pundit's founder, he may indeed have been giving completely credible/factual information on that podcast I linked to via an earlier comment here. He stated during the podcast that he was reading verbatim from the paperwork he had just received at the time of his podcast.

Here is a snip from Wikipedia regarding this DOD investigation:

..."In 1992, the Defense Department investigated Redfield after he was accused of misrepresenting the effects of an experimental HIV vaccine, the study of which he had overseen.[19] In 1992, the U.S. Senate gave a $20 million appropriation for a private company, MicroGeneSys, to develop a therapeutic HIV vaccine based on the protein gp160, which went into clinical trials. As Randy Shilts, author of And The Band Played On writes in his followup book that the idea of a therapeutic vaccine was a radical idea that came to Redfield while reading his children a book about Louis Pasteur which he then discussed with Jonas Salk who was in support.[20][page needed][verification needed]

At the time a U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, Redfield was the army's leading AIDS researcher, and a proponent of the vaccine. In July 1992, Redfield gave an abstract presentation on the vaccine at the international AIDS conference in Amsterdam on the preliminary data. Based on preliminary results of 15 of the 26 patients who got the vaccine, Redfield said that the viral load of patients getting the vaccine was lower than patients who did not get the vaccine. Most researchers believe that viral load would be a good sign of vaccine effectiveness. The vaccine later turned out to be ineffective. Many researchers said that Redfield had made a reasonable interpretation of the preliminary data by selecting only 15 patients who had been on the vaccine for 18 months, but a US Air Force scientist Major Craig Hendrix, MD (now at Johns Hopkins) said that he committed scientific misconduct by selecting data that were favorable to the vaccine.[6][page needed][verification needed]

In 1993, a U.S. Army investigation determined that Redfield had not committed scientific misconduct,[21][19] and he was promoted to colonel thereafter.[citation needed] Redfield is quoted in the comprehensive book on the controversy Big Shot: Passion, Politics, and the Struggle for an AIDS Vaccine as saying of his accusers "I am disappointed in the institutions for not holding the individuals accountable for what I consider conduct unbecoming of an officer."[6][page needed] Importantly, Redfield carried on his studies of the gp160 vaccine beyond the work presented in the abstract presentation; the results of his 27-author phase II clinical trial was published in the Journal of Infectious Disease in 2000 (with Deborah L. Birx as lead author).[22] Redfield's multi-site study, a collaboration between the Department of Defense and the National Institutes of Health,[22] laid the groundwork for future vaccine development and provided a better understanding of the biologic basis of HIV infection and its interaction with the host immune system.[citation needed] The work did not, however, result in an effective vaccine.[19] On the other hand, the aim remains an important one in the field; Jon Cohen noted in Science, despite "intensive efforts and massive investments, no vaccine to prevent HIV infection has yet proved itself", researchers have "celebrations" when they have "glimpses of hope" even at preliminary reports of success.[23]

The investigation did say that he had an "inappropriate" close relationship with the non-governmental group "Americans for a Sound AIDS/HIV Policy" (ASAP), which promoted the gp160 vaccine. The group was founded by evangelical Christians that worked to contain the HIV/AIDS outbreak by advocating for abstinence before marriage, rather than passing out condoms — a view Redfield says he's since changed.[21][24] Redfield served on the board of ASAP, which gay groups criticized for anti-gay, conservative Christian policies, such as abstinence-only prevention.[25] Redfield also authored the foreword to the book co-written by ASAP leader W. Shepard Smith, "Christians in the Age of AIDS" which discouraged the distribution of sterile needles to drug users as well as condom use calling them "false prophets." The book described AIDS as "God's judgment" against homosexuals.[26] At the time of his nomination to head the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Redfield maintained close ties with anti-gay and anti-HIV activists[25], although he has publicly supported the use of condoms and denies ever promoting abstinence-only interventions.[11] However, in the 2000s, Redfield was a prominent advocate for the ABCs of AIDS doctrine which promoted abstinence primarily and condoms only a last resort..."

*I will state that in all my years performing research into the vaccie issue, I have learned that truth can also come from, at times, from individuals who may not have always provided credible information, depending on who they are, and who they claim to be.

While it certainly appears as though True Pundit has a shall we say colorful history, he may have been completely above board during the podcast.

Lessons in discernment...

Barry,

There have been eleven deaths out of 712 diagnosed cases on the Diamond Princess, and ten more are still in critical condition. The longer it continues, the more likely they are to die. So it’s about a 2% fatality rate, maybe more.

No one knows yet why some clusters are much more deadly than others. There are different strains of Covid, different genetic profiles, age and comorbidity profiles, and different results from different treatments. But 2% mortality is in itself very high in most people’s estimation, and whom it strikes the hardest is unpredictable in many cases. And getting it and recovering seems to give unreliable immunity and there are always other strains. I’d like to know why SARS 1 just disappeared after killing 10% of patients around the world.

I posted this in a different thread last week, but the following link is to a 10 minute talk by Dr. John Ioannidis (Prof of Medicine, Epidemiology & Population health), wherein he discussed one of the earliest reported outbreaks aboard the Diamond Princess Cruise ship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUvWaxuurzQ

That outbreak occurred among a captive population of fairly elderly people (mean age ~58, median age ~ 65). And although the infection rate was ~ 19%, and older people have the highest risk of becoming severely ill with this virus, the data currently shows that only 1 % of those who got infected have died.

Any fatality rate is obviously an awful outcome. But if the virus produced a 1% fatality rate among a crowded population of elderly people, how can it possibly be generating a 5-10% fatality rate among the general population?

I am still listening to this podcast. I have no idea as to whether this information has made it out to the general public, but it's about to if this journalist doing the podcast has anything to say about it.

Turns out, Dr. Redfield and Dr. Birx have both been investigated by the Department of Defense for research fraud regarding an HIV/AIDS vaccine; this was around circa 1992. Physicians in the Army and other military sources, were the whistleblowers re this investigation.

So question: How in the heck did these people come to be in charge of the coronavirus issue?

Alert: Graphic language in this podcast, but highly recommended:

https://truepundit.com/dod-leak-feds-investigated-birx-fabricated-falsified-hiv-aids-vaccine-trials/?fbclid=IwAR2GynCBOtTeQM5aPBEjIKBMIiiJ1Pyfup6oGRMLS-0XvX8mQwQ4XwvmHf4

Benedetta,

It's more of the public health vs. economy issue. If you announce that you have cholera in your country, everyone will cut you off, and people will die as a result just of that. If you have a big problem, like Haiti in 2010 with the earthquake, you may get public health workers flock to your country to help you, but in that case they brought in cholera to a country which had not had it for decades. As they are saying now about the lockdowns, which may cause death for different reasons independent of Covid. But again, is lack of transparency on disclosure or not of a public health problem proof of being a warlord? Do the leaders have more of an obligation to protect the interests of their own people or those of foreigners?

Cait from Canada and Cia;
Tedros called cholera a watery diarrhea in his country, until it spilled over to the neighboring countries and it got renamed cholera.

Considering all the college kids got parotitis, but not the mumps as all the health departments (under the CDC) called it.

Yeap Tedros is very well qualified.

Tomorrow on the BBC we are going to be treated to a full length interview with Bill Gates and his solution for the present world crisis we are now facing . I wonder what that could be ? Here in the UK the newly appointed leader of the opposition Keir Starmer has also suggested the same solution , we wait with baited breath.

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Why is the world looking to Bill Gates for a solution to this world crisis??

Beyond the fact that he is supremely unqualified to give any kind of medical advice, you would need to have slept for the last 20 years, not to know that he's going to recommend mandating a vaccine this will ultimately make him gobs more money. And establish a truly scary precedent for the future of the free world.

Are there any real journalists left at the BBC?

Have you heard this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2fyKCSt24

A must-watch, don’t-miss video from Truthstream Media:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLBXfKDbbI&feature=youtu.be

oF course ...nothing to see whiter than white.

CRIMES OF TEDROS ADHANOM
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The head of the WHO was the 3rd most powerful person in the TPLF, a Communist Revolutionary Party in Ethiopia that was listed as a terrorist organization in the 90s and, as a political arm of a minority ethnic group (6%), reportedly conducted systematic discrimination and human rights abuses against the majority ethnic group. So odd that the MSM would neglect to mention this. I thought they hated racial discrimination, ethnic persecution and human rights abuses?

Guest post by John Martin via Rough Estimate.

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, as well as being the first WHO director without a medical degree, also has a somewhat political background compared to his predecessors. On his online biography, the WHO lays out his qualifications as Ethiopian Minister of Health from 2002 to 2012, impressive stuff.

Aside from his medical credentials, Tedros happens to be a member of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) which is an organisation about as peaceful as its name suggests. Founded as a communist revolutionary party that came to power in 1991, it led a guerrilla campaign against the Mengistu dictatorship and formed a coalition with two other ethnic parties after his exile.

Over time, the TPLF began to exert more and more influence over the other two parties. Most military generals and key leaders within the government are Tigray, including the Prime Minister who ruled the country for 21 years before his death. The Tigray represent only 6% of the population of Ethiopia, one of the major ethnic groups are the Amhara who mostly made up the Mengistu regime.

Favourable treatment under Megistu created a lot of resentment towards the Amhara from other ethnic groups like for example the Oromo. Tedros himself hails from the Tigray region and was a senior member of the party and became involved with the TPLF after the removal of Mengistu. The same party that in its 1968 manifesto called the Amhrara people its ‘eternal enemy’. Just how senior was Tedros? Well this Ethiopian newspaper listed him as the 3rd most important member of the politbureau standing committee, which gives the impression he was more important than a simple medical administrator.

The TPLF was listed as a terrorist organisation by the US government in the 1990s, and is still listed as one by the Global Terror Database because of its unfortunate habit of carrying out armed assaults in rural areas.

The Amhara people have reported systematic discrimination and human rights abuses by the current government. Humans Rights Watch in 2010 wrote a report on how aid in the form of food and fertiliser was withheld from local Amhara villagers because of their affiliations with the opposition party. Other forms of aid denial involved the refusal of emergency healthcare by ministry of health workers; the same ministry which was at the time being led by one Tedros Adhanom.

The Amhara People’s Union, an activist group based in Washington, has issued many other accusations of human rights abuses against the TPLF led government, including noting that the birth rates in the Amhara region was far lower than those experienced in other regions. They noted at a session in Ethiopian parliament that, around 2 million Amhara were found to have “disappeared” from the population census.

Not content with denying aid to political dissidents, Tedros was also health minister at a time when the regime was accused of covering up epidemics. A cholera outbreak spread the region in 2007, infecting thousands in neighbouring countries. When it spread to Ethiopia, the government simply renamed the outbreak and called it Acute Watery Diarrhoea (AWD). International organisations were pressured not to call it Cholera (despite the UN testing the infected and finding Cholera), and were pressured by government employees not to reveal the number of infected. Another stunning victory for the health minister.

The deadly famine which struck Ethiopia in the 1980s forever associated the country with the word, but it’s not entirely a thing of the past. The WHO itself after pages of gushing reports on how well Ethiopia’s health sector was doing, admitted in 2016 that at least 8.6 million people still needed food aid to survive, and that the situation had not improved at all for at least four years. So at the end of Tedros’ illustrious term in office he could boast a mere remaining 8% of the population who would be left to starve to death without foreign aid.

But after his shining accomplishments in health, Tedros had bigger fish to fry. In 2012 he was appointed foreign minister and there quickly followed a crackdown on journalists and government opponents in the country, and an attempt to extradite those who had fled to Yemen in exile. The two countries entered negotiations to track down and deport dissidents from Yemen and imprison them in Ethiopia. Tedros himself led these negotiations, there’s even a nice picture of the medical man during the talks with the Yemeni foreign minister.

One such case was a British citizen Andy Tsege who was arrested at Sana’a airport and twice given a death sentence in Ethiopia. This led to the involvement of the British government who threatened denial of aid to Ethiopia unless he be granted asylum. Tedros responded that Tsege was “being treated very well. He even has a laptop, have you ever heard of a political prisoner with a laptop?” Andy of course, after his return to the UK told a somewhat different story of being tortured for days on end, alongside dozens of other prisoners.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/04/04/the-crimes-of-tedros-adhanom/

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"For those of you who don’t know, leading up to 2017, the Gates Foundation and China rallied hard for an Ethiopian warlord named Tedros Adhanom to become the W.H.O. Director despite his crimes against humanity, and despite the fact he is not a medical doctor."

I'm curious to know where LQ got the idea the Tedros is an Ethiopian warlord. I can't find any information supporting that claim. I have read that Tedros was a member of the Tigrayan People’s Liberation Front, which helped to overthrow the Soviet-backed Ethiopian dictator Mengistu in 1991 (when Tedros was 26). I don't think that makes him a warlord.

Tedros is also a microbiologist with a PhD in community medicine who was the Ethiopian Minister of Health and then Minister of Foreign Affairs prior to becoming director-general of the WHO. It is true that he is not a medical doctor, but I doubt many doctors would be better qualified to lead the WHO.

And if Tedros should resign because of his tardy response to the crisis, Trump should surely follow suit.

@CIA
You should really watch/listen to Del Bigtree/The Highwire. Facts, facts, facts; they seriously change the narrative.

Cia,
getting a mild case may also mean, that just like the measles, you have lifelong immunity. It would certainly appear to suggest that your body is able to handle the virus easily.
Given that the test is certainly not 100% accurate,it is very possible that inaccuracies with the test itself is the reason people are testing negative, then positive, then negative again.
At one point, they were suggesting that two negative tests were needed to say that people were no longer infectious. The fact that the two tests often did not get the same result, and that the CDC itself at the time did not consider the first one to be accurate on its own, seems to suggest it is more than likely that the test itself is dodgy.
I notice that Bill Gates is saying that the economy can only reopen if people buy a product ( vaccine) for the coronavirus that he is said to have just invested millions in..
Interesting decision for him to make, given that he is not one of the ten million unemployed, some of whom are now possibly facing food challenges , and some of whom will also have lost their medical coverage as well. I wonder how many people will die because they stay away from hospitals with strokes and heart attacks because they have no health insurance? How many will die because they can't afford insulin or epi pens any more? People are already known to have died in the past because they tried to ration insulin, and hospitals are already commenting on the huge numbers of stroke and heart attack patients who are not being admitted.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/well/live/coronavirus-doctors-hospitals-emergency-care-heart-attack-stroke.html
It is unlikely that they are just suddenly not getting strokes any more, so how many are not being treated? Certainly, fear of being infected in the hospital may be some of it; lack of money and lost health insurance also most likely is playing a part.
I am all for social distancing, mask wearing, and protecting the vulnerable, but we also need to consider that there are vulnerable on both sides of this equation, and shutting down the economy with the long term results of millions being unemployed , losing income and becoming broke is not just "unpleasant" ; for some it can be life threatening.
Funny how we can't get a flu vaccine that works to prevent more than 1 in 100 infections, and we can't get an HIV vaccine after 20 plus years, but somehow this vaccine , where the testing is already being truncated, is going to be safe and somehow work more effectively than the flu vaccine that they have been working on for years.Then of course, there is the dengue vaccine that passed all the tests, and still managed to make an infection of dengue fever more dangerous unless you already had caught the disease and had some natural immunity.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/dengue-vaccine-fiasco-leads-criminal-charges-researcher-philippines
It passed WHO vaccine trials, by the way. Interesting to see the possibility of a criminal trial for the researcher who designed the safety studies.
.Of course,if the coronavirus does start mutating, then it seems possible that previous infection will still provide some protection. It is also possible that the vaccine will, like the flu vaccine, always have to play "catch up" .How often do we hear that the flu vaccine is a bad match for this years flu, because it was based on last years version? Shutting down the economy for 18 months until someone can make huge sums of money off a vaccine, that if the virus mutates may be ineffective anyway; seems a good way of harming many people.

Thank you Levi. I would hope some Americans begin to figure things out before they mandate ALL the adult vaccines.

Remember:
War is when the government tells you who your enemy is.
Revolution is when you figure it our for yourself.

Vaxxus,

I knew the case rate was different from the case fatality rate, but don’t know how important it is. I’d like to know how many have gotten and recovered from it, but there’s reason to believe that you need to have had a fairly severe illness to get immunity. So there may be a range of levels of immunity and how long it will last. So getting a mild or asymptomatic case may not count for much, may not mean you’re protected from getting it again. We don’t know yet. But does it make much difference if a) 20,000 die from it but 100,000 million have immunity of some kind to it, or b) 20,000 die from it but only 5 million have immunity to it? Or 20,000 die out of 100,000 cases compared to 20,000 dying out of 200 million cases? Isn’t a large amount of suffering and loss the important thing?

David,

Those who die of respiratory failure while having Covid should be considered to have died of Covid because of the simultaneity of the events, and because we know that the lung condition caused by Covid often results in complete respiratory failure. If they had not had Covid, they would not have died at that time.

Benedetta,

I don’t understand. The rates of people dying from the lung condition caused by Covid continued to be extremely high. Those given HCQ etc. soon enough often experience a dramatic turn-around and recovery, and I hope that soon it will be possible to give them to whomever wants them. What do you mean by deaths being down from that regular pneumonia? Are you talking about Covid pneumonia, which causes ground glass opacities in the lungs, what one British woman said felt like breathing with shards of glass sticking into her lungs? An American man said that when he coughed it caused crackling sounds when he was hospitalized two weeks ago with Covid pneumonia. Are you saying that the pneumonia is becoming milder? Flags are at half-mast in New York today in honor of the numbers dead from Covid setting a new record every day. With endless quibbling about whether or not HCQ should be offered, which the FDA now permits. A legislator in Michigan said it saved her life but she nearly wasn’t able to get it because the state government didn’t want to permit its use. Why not? A survey just showed that a third of American doctors think it’s the most effective treatment on offer.

IF we were to try to go back to normal now and we saw the deaths that New York is seeing now, millions of people would refuse to go to work, sending the economy into another tail spin.

Wuhan is getting back to normal now after nearly three months of lockdown. Can we not wait that long for the sake of sparing millions of lives? You can say it wouldn’t be that many, but based on other countries’ experience and our numbers, it is very likely that it would be.

Cia, I know but I just wanted to point out that CFR isn't the same as Infection Fatality Rate (IFR).

If we want to know the true death rate we need to use IFR which is difficult to estimate. CFR will likely overestimate the fatality rate.

Here is a good overview:

"Taking account of historical experience, trends in the data, increased number of infections in the population at largest, and potential impact of misclassification of deaths gives a presumed estimate for the COVID-19 IFR between 0.1% and 0.39%."

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

I am not saying COVID-19 is harmless, I don't believe that nor do I recommend to take or not take specific actions.

I am trying to look at things objectively. We need to do tests in the general population to find out what is happening. Unless we are doing this we are flying blind.

All guesses of people having anything like covid19 are just that, and actually are wild guesses.

**People can actually be infected, have no symptoms, shrug it off, maybe making antibodies, or never making antibodies.

**People can be infected, come down with symptoms, then shrug it off; MAYBE have antibodies, maybe not.

**People exposed to covid19 but never be infected because their vibrant health. HOWEVER they may test "positive" for antibodies, but the tests for covid19 could react to other coronaviruses we've all been exposed to throughout our lives, as antibody tests would be non-specific to an unknown degree.

**People are very sick, already with other deadly pneumonias such as Staphylococcus Aureus, but if tested "positive" for covid19, then die, would then be (fraudulently) listed as covid19 death, just as Deborah Birx said on national TV 3 days ago now.

**People tested to be "positive" for coronavirus, maybe even have covid19, BUT die from fierce antiviral drugs such ribavirin and quite a few others, being an iatrogenic death, but who is counting? But who would have lived via Vitamin C therapy, chloroquine, etc., therapies, but still pooh-poohed by Anthony Fauci (in my opinion the worst Medical Butcher of all time).

**We know probably hundreds of millions around the Planet have been indeed exposed to covid19. With essentially zero mortality to anybody under age 40 (and those deaths all having prior serious co-morbidities), and with very, very small numbers from age 50 to 70 being more than mildly affected,

This present hysteria is the Mother of ALL "Making a Mountain Out of a Molehill"

Cia,

I think you are overstating the numbers. The case fatality rate is very unreliable because they test a lot people that are already at risk of developing serious illness and that seeking medical treatment.

No attempts have been made to understand what the real case fatality rate is in the population.

The best study that was done so far was in Iceland where they tested 30% of the entire population and the real case fatality rate wasn't higher than 0.3%

Without knowing what the real infection rate is in the entire population you can't calculate a reliable case fatality rate.

Some scientists believe the infection rate in the population could be 10-100 times higher than what were are reporting.

I think we need to continue the lockdowns. The case fatality rate has turned out to be much higher than was first speculated, and has performed very close to what SARS did, rising from an estimated one percent to ten percent. South Korea, one of the countries in the world with the best response, has a 1.9% CFR; Germany also 1.9%. At this time we cannot provide effective drug treatment to every coronavirus patient. I hope HCQ/Zpac/zinc works out and we have enough distributed to give to everyone, but at this time we don’t. And I don’t know how much it’s universal use would reduce deaths, especially in older adults and those with health problems.

About three thousand just in New York City have died. 400 died in less than 24 hours earlier this week. It has been revealed that hundreds in New York have died alone at home. 2,192 dead on arrivals in the last two weeks, when in the same period a year ago it was 453. And that’s in a state with advanced medical care readily available and every effort being made to cope with the disease. It now appears that ventilators aren’t a stellar treatment: fatalities WITH a ventilator in many places being fifty percent.

Maybe a lot of people already have immunity from coronavirus cases in the US in December and January thought at the time to be flu. But we won’t have any idea how many until a reliable antibody test is available. And we don’t know how good or lasting the antibody response may be.

But with 220 million adults in the US, a two percent CFR would be 4.4 million deaths, and under crash circumstances could potentially reach twenty-two million if everyone got it. Even if everyone who died was over fifty and had comorbidities, as 60% of Americans do, are many people willing to pay that price?

Wuhan after three months is verifiably getting back to normal and is open for business again. Probably if we maintain the lockdowns they could be gradually phased out in another month, probably discontinued by June 6. And then maybe situationally reinstated as outlined by Tomas Pueyo in The Hammer and the Dance, because yes, like the Spanish flu, it might come back in new waves.

As reported by the "conspiracy seekers/truth seekers on here over the past decade one silver gong I hope the world wakes up to is Gates and his extermination foundation..

“Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it.”

“…Microsoft and MIT developed ‘tatoo markers’ that show whether you have recieved a vaccine or not. This will be coupled with Gate’s new invention, ID2020, which is a digital ID microchip implanted under the skin.”

https://cloverchronicle.com/2020/03/18/bill-gates-pushes-for-digital-certificates-to-be-issued-to-those-who-have-been-tested-for-covid-19/

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