Autism 27 Years Later Part 2
Six-in-One Vaccine Vaccine from Merck & Sanofi Raises Red Flag

Worried About Sickness? Here's a Bottle Opener for the Bottom of Your Sandal!

Reef flip flip
Look! It's a Bottle Opener! (BARF)

by Kim Rossi

This weekend, a friend on Facebook wrote about a sweatshirt that said MILWAUKEE and had a built in bottle opener at the waistband. Clever, yes? Think of the dental work saved by not having to crack a cuspid to open a Hasenpheffer Incorporated lager with your mouth.

Her story reminded me of a pair of Reef brand flip flops I bought last Fall. I purchased them on Amazon, and when they arrived, I was disgusted to see thaShoe phonet there was a bottle opener on the BOTTOM OF THE SANDAL. Who on earth thought it was a good idea to open a beer with the bottom of a shoe? Maxwill Not-so-Smart? 

The world is in a scandalous upheaval of fear and worry and anxiety and panic and changing behavior and destroying business and stopping travel and quarantining entire regions and hoarding toilet  paper and making homemade hand sanitizer to protect against a virus.  

The same people open beer with a dog poop, cigarette stub, chewing gum, rat hair, puddle water covered sandal.

States from Maine to California are demonizing healthy, "under"vaccinated children and putting them on permanent "quarantine" from the rest of their peers by the removal of religious exemptions and the strangling of the medical exemption and doctors' ability to write them.  Fear is out of proportion to the danger. That's not to say Corona virus is benign. If an elderly loved one dies from it, then it was a deadly epidemic for your family. 

The world has flipped.

And flopped.

Comments

Bayareamom

I just viewed this video; thought so much of it I thought I'd provide the link to it here. Regardless as to whether you believe in the subject material this man researches (he is one of the best in this area of research imho), he is right on the mark with this issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=Ho2aN1jK7CE&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2DDUoHQIruTLnmq6f-95gIGeSRVUnt0pko7fP6l9L9en_Y7ZOpbqKzOJk

Angus Files

Bayareamom

Very good read, that’s your life you go listen to the same lot that told you vaccines were safe if you want. I moved on from them 20 years ago and I or my family haven’t visited them once since. I could list many more Jon Rappoport`s as you would like to term them “conspiracy theorists” that I hold in the highest esteem some who write on here but they dont fit in with the conventianl media nor your mind. Wish you and your family all the best.

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MMR RIP

Bayareamom

Hi Cia,

Sorry I haven't responded to you before this. I hear you! And yes, I've heard of Chris Martenson; he's mentioned quite a bit on that forum I've mentioned in earlier comments.

I honestly don't mean to become argumentative with anyone on this blog -- truly. Everyone has the right to his/her own opinion.

But having said this, I do want to point out the irony with anyone stating they don't believe the WITNESSES who are actively working COVID-19 patients versus believing those of whom are speculating as to what is going on while sitting on a computer, etc., so forth.

Isn't this what we've been complaining about on our side of the fence? That people won't listen to the parents who have personally witnessed first hand the injuries our children have sustained due to vaccine injury?

Isn't it? Because that's where I've been coming from with all of this; my absolute frustration in NOT BEING BELIEVED, even when we had a Denver pediatric group who actively supported our decision to no longer vaccinate our son...yet many of my former friends and fellow moms from years again, would not believe me.

To me, these physicians who are speaking out from the trenches are representative of the moms/dads who have spoken out about vaccine injury. They, too, are active witnesses with this COVID-19 issue. Watch them when they speak! Look at the pain in their faces, look at their eyes and the concern they exhibit as they speak.

They're not lying! They are pleading with people to pay attention to what they are stating. And again, if these same physicians were to come out and say, "Hey, listen up. I'm Dr. so and so, I've been working in such and such hospital and I'm here to say that overall, this COVID-19 isn't as serious as some have stated and here is why I'm saying this..."

...I'd believe that too, because these physicians are WITNESSES. Who better to speak out about this issue, than these people?

I like FACTS. And to me, there's no better way to receive factual information than from those of whom are actively working within these hospitals who have seen things for themselves.

So no. I don't give as much credence to computer warriors, or to people who like to hear themselves talk. While I do give Jon Rappoport credence for some of his research, on this particular issue, I'm just not with him.

A little story: About 3 weeks ago, I decided to sign up (for the first time) to Jon's email list. I did this right out of his No More Fake News website. And almost immediately, I started to receive his emails, one right after the other.

But at around the same time as I signed up, I also started to receive an unusual influx of spam emails coming directly into my email box, as well as an unusual amount of telemarketing calls coming in on my private cell phone #.

After a few days, I decided to unsubscribe to Jon's list just to see if it made any difference with these odd phone calls and emails I was receiving.

It didn't seem to make much difference, so I decided to re-subscribe to his list. But having done this, I noted that I was not receiving his emails. After a day or two and no emails forthcoming, I checked Jon's website, only to see that he was continuing to write about the COVID-19 issue, but I had not received any recent updates/articles.

So I re-subscribed yet again. And this time, within hours, I received an email from Jon's server, asking me to provide him with an update to. my profile, stating that this was for my own security. When I went into the link provided to do this, I found that he was literally asking me for PRIVATE data, i.e., phone #, name, address, etc.

Uh, I don't need or want to be on his list that much; I promptly wrote back to Jon and said that if I needed to provide him with private data on myself just to be on his email list, I think I'll take a pass.

This is not the reason I've ultimately took a pass on Jon's articles, but it really did set me back a bit. I've never been asked to provide private/personal data in order to be on someone's email list.

ANYWAY --

I do wish all who read at this blog the very best as this COVID-19 issue weaves its way through humanity. My advice -- stock up on all essentials, use common sense and take proactive measures to protect your loved ones. If you're a believer, as I am, a healthy prayer or two for all of us, but most especially to those of whom are fighting in the trenches with this thing. My heart goes out to those in the medical community who are dealing with the COVID-19 crisis.

My last comment on this issue...

BAM

Bayareamom

@Angus,

I understand your concerns/fear.

Bear with me: First, I am no Paul Offit lover. I loathe him and everything he stands for.

But look at this from a different perspective because this is where I'm coming from: First, I am a Mom who witnessed our son experience horrific side effects from his four month old shots. His reactions were so severe that our Denver pediatric group immediately provided him with a lifetime medical exemption to the pertussis component of the whole cell DPT vaccine (and/or to any other vaccine which contained the pertussis component).

We were so lucky back then (1993) in that our medical staff, for whatever the reason, treated us with compassion and sincerity.

As most of us know who read and/or participate on this blog, parents across the globe have borne witness to their children's vaccine injuries and further, most of us have tried valiantly to tell the world what we witnessed, ONLY TO BE DISBELIEVED BY THE MAJORIITY. We've been ostracized, ridiculed, called conspiracy theorists, and worse.

The pro-vaccine camp spews out all manner of propaganda and will use strongarm tactics in order to squelch the voices of those of whom have WITNESSED vaccine injury(ies).

So here you are, Angus, stating (I can only assume) that you do NOT believe the physicians who have bravely come out from the trenches -- the ones who are WITNESSING the COVID-19 crisis because they are actively treating stricken patients -- and stating that you don't believe THEM, but want to believe Jon Rappoport instead.

So the witnesses who are speaking out, again -- the physician who are actively IN the trenches, dealing with COVID-19 -- you are stating you don't trust or believe THEM.

Interesting.

But you would rather believe Jon Rappoport, who is NOT in the trenches, who sits behind his computer, pontificating what he BELIEVES to be the many issues surrounding the COVID-19 crisis, and who does nothing but weave a few particles of truth regarding various issues, but overall, his blog is nothing more than speculation as to what may be going on.

For ME, I like to deal with factual information - not conspiracy theories. And until I started to hear these physicians who are actively working IN the trenches, trying to save lives re COVID-19, I was listening to Jon. He had my ear at that point.

But once these physicians started speaking out, they had my ear. Further, if these same physicians stated that COVID-19 isn't as nasty as they thought it was going to be, I'd be willing to accept that as well.

Because you see, I like facts. I refuse to put all my cards in with a guy who is purely speculating about an issue and is not actively workiing in, or experiencing this crisis on a first hand basis. I WILL pay more attention to those of whom are speaking to the camera and are speaking in a heartfelt manner as to what they are witnessing FIRST HAND.

I do understand the fear mode that most people are experiencing with this issue. I get it. But denial is a tricky thing and a very, very powerful emotional tool in order to help us deal with crisis issues we have never had to deal with before.

So for my family, we are not in panic mode. Our son works in an industry which requires that he be surrounded by many people (strangers for the most part) on a daily basis. Do I worry about him? Of course, but not to the point of panic. We've ensured that we have adequate food and water to last us awhile, but we live in California and do that anyway in preparation for perhaps the odd earthquake that may come our way. It's just common sense to be prepared for an emergency.

So if people want to put their faith into someone like Jon Rappoport, so be it. That's your choice. But for me personally, I'll go with the guys/gals who are speaking out from the trenches and am willing to give them a lot more credence than someone like Jon, or anyone else for the matter, who isn't witnessing this crisis first hand.

Just my .02...

susan welch

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-11th-march-2020

Some interesting information on yesterday's UK Column

cia

Bayareamom,

I agree. I looked at Jon Rappoport but didn't think he was writing from a viewpoint in accordance with my knowledge and worldview. There is no doubt at all about the momentous nature of this pandemic. I HIGHLY recommend the videotaped talks out nearly every day at Peak Prosperity by Chris Martenson, available at the site with just a click, no charge. I think they're at Youtube as well. He says that there are three ways that the pandemic can be brought under control: the hygiene and distancing measures to prevent transmission, pharma- and nutriceutical products to prevent or treat it, which will eventually include a vaccine, and letting it burn through the world. At the end of the Spanish flu, 100% of the world population had antibodies to it, whether from clinical or subclinical cases. Most of those informed on this pandemic predict that within a few years it will be the same with this: everyone in the world will have been exposed to it. Right now it's uncertain if they will get protective, lasting antibodies on recovery. And some say that everyone who gets it will sustain some or a lot of permanent lung damage. Eventually it will become milder, probably be assimilated to other, milder coronaviruses now often occurring as colds. I don't know, do many people think that it's better to just let millions of people die from it for the eventual greater good, to not have to be personally inconvenienced? I do not. But I'm hoping that avoiding it now will mean that by the time we get it it will be milder.

Angus Files

Bayareamom
I side with John its all fake news and I don’t believe any Offit. We’re not panic buying, were not buying anything in that we wouldn’t normally have in, were not cancelling anything to avoid meeting people etc etc and as for bog roll scarcity what’s that to do with if. In fact we were at the Chinese restaurant a week ago locally a popular place and we were the only ones having a meal, how sad for the owners as they were really worried.But what a laugh we had. The only important difference between this phony epidemic and its predecessors---West Nile, SARS, MERS, Swine Flu, Ebola, Zika is the size offit. China set the ball rolling and set the stakes high by locking down a 100 million people and from there other countries followed. It doesn’t prove virus just that a hundred million people were locked down. The size of the lie is bigger this time that’s all, as I see it.See what happens next we will all be locked down in our houses until we have a corona vaccine and you have to have had it so you can re-join society. That’s what the Pharma Inc are wishing for and if they can string it out for long enough and blame it all on Trump until November election all the better. They have already wrecked his financial gains in the stock exchange now it’s the economy. Its a political hit job and Trump and the USA are the biggest target for sure.


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Bayareamom

@Angus,

Yes. I've read ALL of Jon Rappoport's articles re the CoronaVirus issue; was actually on his email list for a couple of weeks.

Originally, when I first started researching the CoronaVirus issue, I did eventually look into Jon's research, but opted to continue reading anything else I could find and listening to quite a few videos of so called experts of infectious disease and others, regarding same. Eventually, I found that Jon's articles, at the time, made more sense to me and I opted into his email list in order to receive daily updates on the matter.

But then, two days ago, I happed to read an article which documented a statement made by a Tarzana, CA physician by the name of Dr. Fink. I read Dr. Fink's statement and realized that just perhaps Jon's conclusions (to me) weren't as black and white as it seemed. I researched further and eventually found information on an international forum I'd once belonged to, wherein a plethora of individuals at that forum were sending information which documented what their countries were dealing with re the virus and its impact.

It was there that I found the statement, given on record, of one Italian physician, who pleaded with people to listen to those of whom are working in the trenches and are witnessing the devastation that this virus is manifesting.

I have admired Jon's work in the past; in fact, I used to belong to a pandemic research/online group he once belonged to as well (along with Dr. Tenpenny and others), back in 2009. I am well aware of some of Jon's impeccable research into the issues of AIDS and other major medical issues.

But now that this virus has spread (and it has spread) to other countries besides China, physicians/medical personnel in these countries ARE free to speak out (unlike those in China whose voices were squelched) and what they are saying gives me pause and made me reflect on all that I have read and have heard regarding this illness.

I am concerned, but am not panicking. My family is taking all the necessary precautions as this thing weaves its way through our locale.

While I do feel Jon has brought up some very salient points regarding this issue, what he fails to cite in any of his articles is what these physicians are stating as to the devastation wreaked upon the hospitals and the medical personnel who are dealing with this crisis. Not in any of my many years of vaccine research have I ever heard one single physician or nurse state anything close to these conditions, even when dealing with the flu with their patients.

As Dr. Fink has stated and other medical personnel as well, they have never seen anything like this, so I am assuming this means the conditions they've worked under when just dealing with any sort of flu epidemic.

This one is different.

No one individual is going to be correct on every single issue researched and written, and this would also include Jon Rappoport. As much as I have admired some of his work, on this one issue, I do find him lacking in certain areas.

I think it's prudent for everyone to take the necessary precautions and hope for the best. I truly hope that Jon may be correct, but feel it's best to plan for the worst, and hope for the best outcome and have no regrets that I and my family did not take heed and prepare accordingly.

Angus Files

As the great Jon Rappoport puts it

https://nomorefakenews.com/

Coronavirus: a propaganda master advises the President before he addresses the nation
Read all the way through to catch that chunk
(To read about Jon's mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)
What do most people say, if you raise questions about the reality of the "epidemic," or even hint that the facts might be in doubt?

Two responses high on the list: "but people are dying"; and "the experts wouldn't lie."

So, in this episode of virus fakery and apocalypse on rye with mustard, I present a tale I like to call: THE PROPAGANDA MASTER COMES TO TOWN.

This character is a wisdom figure and a teacher. He's an old pro. He makes sure the lies are being told well and often. He reminds his troops of their mission. Pardon his language, but he has a very low opinion of humanity.

Here he is now, getting out of his limo and walking into a five-star hotel.

Conference room. A security team has checked the space for bugs and other electronic snooping. The shades are drawn. A dozen propaganda ops specialists are sitting at the long table.

The maestro walks into the room, stands at one end of the table, and without formalities, begins talking:

---I only have a few minutes. I'm on my way to Rome to brief the Pope. So here it is. We put messages into the heads of the great unwashed masses, so they'll pass those messages to others. Get it? THAT'S the real contagion factor. Never forget it. We're Info Central for the rubes and yokels and idiots, including high IQ idiots who think their college degree means they're educated in science.

---We work with death. People all over the world are dying all the time, every day. The public doesn't want to think about that. Good. That's good for us. Our job is to convince the yokels that the "new" dying which is happening now comes from a special virus. We do that by equating DEATH and CORONAVIRUS. Get it? Never forget it. "People are dying, it must be the virus." That's our ticket.

---Our medical brethren in this great con have already done a terrific job carving up death into various categories. But now they can make ordinary pneumonia into coronavirus pneumonia at the drop of a hat. They can make flu into corona. They can make a man falling down stairs a victim of the virus. A flying saucer crashes in a field? If that happened, a CDC official with a straight face could tell the yokels and idiots that the alien pilot of the craft was struck down by the virus and that's why he lost control of the saucer.

---So we can't let our medical friends down. We have to ramp up the intensity of the message. I want more predictions from Harvard and Yale big shots. You know, millions are going to die. Half the world's population is going to be infected.

---Some of the idiots and loons we target are politicians. They "believe in science." We want these pols to lock down cities. Cut off transportation. Make people feel the sting. The sting and the crisis and the quarantine equal THE VIRUS. We own the virus. It's our psy-weapon. It's an idea, a notion, a ghost, a terrorist, a monster, and only the medical experts can control it, if people follow all their orders. Keep pounding that message.

---Now, just between us, did they ever find a brand new virus in China to begin with? Who cares? Are the diagnostic tests for the virus inadequate and useless and worthless and deceiving? Of course. Is the "virus epidemic" a gold-plated fake? Sure. Are all sorts of people being diagnosed with corona who have no disease at all? You bet. Are people who are sick for all sorts of reasons being told they're corona cases? Yeah. That's our bread and butter. Some poor bastard gets off a plane and he has a slight fever from the bad air in the cabin and he's whisked to a military base for quarantine. Play it up. "The virus can get you anytime, anywhere." In a city, the ICU ward in a hospital is overflowing with sick people? Of course it is. People are sick all the time. But now, with the wave of a magic wand, they're put in the ICU because they must be corona. Good. I want more pictures of that ICU. I want video on the news. More of it. Get busy. Don't slack off. This is a circus. There are rules for a circus. The main rule is, people get bored quickly, so you need lots of acts and tricks and animals and side shows and candy to keep the audience occupied. An ICU here, an ICU there. A mother crying. Who cares why? It must be the virus. I don't want to hear about all the other reasons people are sick. I just want to hear VIRUS.

---Never forget how easily you can fool the yokels. Yesterday, a guy living in an apartment house had the flu. No big deal. But today, same guy? Corona. Nothing changed except the news. All his neighbors in the building forget that yesterday this guy had ordinary flu. It's a beautiful thing. Use it. I want to see more funerals on the news. Get busy. Show me more sporting events happening in empty stadiums.

---Our holy grail, our perfect ideal, which is unattainable, would be: every death in the world for the next six months or a year is called coronavirus. But we can strive toward that ideal. We must.

---There are two echelons. There is WE. And there is THEY-THEM. WE keep THEM in their limited minds. We bolster those limited minds with our messages. Keep them yammering, "But people are dying, it must be the virus!" It's pure gold. Keep mining that gold.

Back in his limo, the maestro puts in a call to his contact at the CDC. "Listen up," he says, "you people over there are starting to wobble. I'm talking about the diagnostic test for the virus. First, your test kits were bad, they didn't work. Now you don't have enough of them to satisfy needs. Plus the word is starting to leak out that the tests are inherently unreliable and no one should believe them. This crap must stop now. Shore up your troops. Get them in line. I want healthy people and sick people and old people and young people and all people to be diagnosed with corona, and I don't want any uncertainties. You and I know the test is a joke, it doesn't work, but nobody else can find that out. Got it? People over there at the CDC can be replaced. They can find themselves out on the street. What's in charge of this operation is propaganda, not science. YOU back US up. That's the hierarchy. I want FEAR raging through the population. If you can't hold up your end, you're going to find all the quotes about the epidemic in the press are suddenly coming from the World Health Organization, not the CDC. I'll make sure you're shoved into the background. The World Health people are professional. They know how to deliver a unified con job. Those two idiots, the governor of New York and the mayor of New York, are doing more to hype this fake epidemic than all the employees of the CDC put together. Get your house in order. Fast."

He closes his phone and puts it in his pocket. On the way to the airport, he hums a little tune. He looks out the window. He thinks to himself, if we can stretch this out far enough, we can force a cancelation of the Olympics. Maybe we can even stage a presidential election in America on the Internet. No one votes in a booth. Can't risk transmission of the virus. He chuckles. His phone vibrates. He takes it out.

"Yes, sir?" he says. He listens. Nods. "Yes, sir, I know you're going to address the nation on the pandemic in a few minutes. Well, sir, this is a squeeze play. You're in the middle. I know you understand that. If you go too far in minimizing the risk of the epidemic, you're going to get hit hard from all sides. Mayors, governors, scientists, doctors, public health officials, members of Congress, big tech, the media---they're all going to carve you into a grinning pumpkin. To say nothing of what's been happening to the stock market. If you try minimize the "epidemic," the whole economic picture is going to go upside down. Even Goldman Sachs won't be able to protect you. Look around you. That schmuck mayor of New York is making noises about shutting down the whole Subway system. My advice is, let this operation run its course. Read the tea leaves of history. Many presidents have trouble at the end of a term. The coronavirus fakery is your trouble. Ride it out. If you can't beat Joe Biden in November, you should go back to building golf courses. He's hanging on by a thread. I don't think the doctors can pump him up with enough drugs to keep his brain functioning during a debate. You might stagger into office on a low for your second term, but the epidemic op will fade out, the economy will come back, and you'll---don't be angry, sir, your enemies have been looking for an Achilles heel since you started campaigning back in 2015. They tried this, they tried that, it didn't really work. But this medical op works. Are you really going to say the medical experts are all liars and fake news? Are you contemplating that? Take it from me, it won't fly. You know I'm right. The medical propaganda of the past hundred years is a winner. How can you buck it, especially in the middle of this current shit storm? If I cared about the truth, I'd be in a dither. Fortunately, I'm above the fray. Listen to your wise old uncle. Take the bitter with the sweet. You're a pro in your field. The art of the deal. In this instance, the deal is live to fight another day. You painted your picture of "the grand economic recovery", and now they're spraying all over it with graffiti. That's what enemies do. I have some interesting material on Biden and Bernie, if you'd like me to---"

The maestro looks at his phone. "He hung up," he says to his driver.

"He's a quick study," the driver says.

They laugh.

"What are you going to say to the Pope?" the driver asks.

"I'm going to tell him to keep his big mouth shut. And if he can't do that, and he wants to bring God into it, we'll work on the statement. Change it to Nature. That's softer. Nature has its ways. It must be respected. God gave us the intelligence to work with Nature, and the means to develop medical science. Doctors are healers. Follow their recommendations. Something like that. On the way over in the plane, I'll come up with some quotes. Stay by my side. You're packing heat. They'll ask for your weapon before they let us in the Vatican. Give it to them. Keep your eyes trained straight ahead. Don't look past any open doors. Who knows what you'd see? I don't want anyone to call us as witnesses in a future court case..."

"You're careful as always," the driver says.

"Careful in the details, absolutely reckless when it comes to the overall plan. Tell a lie so outrageous, no one can believe it's a lie."

At the White House, the president steps to the podium and looks at the camera. He thinks, I wonder what would happen if I went off script and said, you know, there must be ten thousand people in Washington who know there's something weird about this coronavirus situation. There's the whole flu thing. The CDC says thirty thousand people in the US die from ordinary flu every single year, like clockwork, and there are millions of flu cases every year---but nobody's calling THAT an epidemic. The stock market isn't crashing because of THAT. Nobody's getting quarantined because of THAT. They aren't going to play the whole NCAA March Madness tournament in empty arenas because of THAT. What the hell's going on?

The president starts to speak to the nation.

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

goldenchameleon

@Cia, wow.....Healing Spirits is indeed sold out. A friend gifted me Stephen Harrod Buhner's book Herbal Antivirals and I am looking forward to reading it. His case for herbal modulation of the cytokine storm is compelling and I'm grateful to have his tonics along with some other neutraceuticals on hand in case of an emergency. I'm so sorry you've had to deal with your cytokine issues and I hope that you find some relief with this new therapeutic avenue.

Cia

Thank you for the link to the Buhner article, golden chameleon, I just read it and it’s very interesting. I was a little surprised to read that elder berries are not that potent and the bark and leaves are better. I planted several elder bushes in our yard about ten years ago and they have spread and are very hardy. I could get some bark now and in a few weeks there will be leaves. Tea made from the flowers is very good for fever.

I bought a small nebulizer and colloidal silver; I learned the other day that you want non-ionic. I’ve never used it.

There’s a really interesting article in the Atlantic by Graeme Wood on the situation in Iran. I think we’ve all been surprised by the large number of politicians and leaders with coronavirus, several of them dying of it. The article uses about six or seven indicators to try to estimate the real number of cases there, and the average is two million cases. I am now at a loss for words.

Cia

There are still N95 masks available on EBay for twenty some-odd dollars for two as well as surgeon’s masks. The CDC put up a chart the other day that said that if you use either kind your risk of infection is low. I think thin transparent latex gloves are still available, many in a box. We’re now wearing mask and gloves when we go out, spraying our shoes and coats with Lysol spray when we come home, and wiping the steering wheel, door handles, light switches, etc., with Clorox or Lysol wipes, washing our hands thoroughly, and wiping surfaces the pets walk on with vinegar. I told the supervisor of my daughter’s pre-voc program that she’d be wearing a mask and gloves, and she said Better safe than sorry.

Cia

Golden chameleon,

I’m glad you ordered the remedies, I just visited the site and saw they were sold out of the bottled ones sold at his site. Did you see his books, one on herbal remedies for viral and one for bacterial infections? I’m really interested because I think my problems related to MS are cytokine storms, and his formulas to modulate cytokine storms may help me as well. I learned about him at the free-of-charge area ( as a public service) of Peak Prosperity. There’s an area with hundreds of comments from readers on how to protect ourselves from coronavirus. One reader used Buhner’s recipes and book on viruses to write out the recipes with the amounts in ounces. I’m going to try to make my own Buhner tinctures.

Bay area mom,

I completely agree. This coronavirus is an extremely serious threat to the world. OK, great, it’s mild for most. But the strain going through Italy and Iran seems to be very virulent, my friend Antonella in Milan says it’s a crisis, but doctors and nurses are working sixteen hours a day to try to help the sick. But hospitals all over the world are being overwhelmed. I think it’s very similar to vaccines. For those predisposed to not be able to cope with it, it’s devastating. Many people need an extra-corporal procedure in which they take the heart and lungs out for a while to oxygenate them and let the body rest from the strain. But there are only a small number of doctors with the skill and hospitals with the necessary equipment. It’s EC (I can’t remember the last two letters). England only has ten beds equipped and Sweden another ten. I think that the young men who collapsed in Israel, Brooklyn, and Panama in the last few days needed this. The one in Panama died yesterday.

This morning I got something from Nextdoor that said they were prohibiting the sale of masks and hand sanitizer. I wrote and asked why in the world would they prohibit people from buying what would protect them. I don’t understand the reasoning.

Bayareamom

I read through threads over at a forum I once belonged to, members of whom are from around the globe. Because this is an international membership forum, reports are now coming in from around the globe re the COVID-19 issue.

The below video was just posted by several members; it is of an Italian physician who provides about a 10 minute statement re the conditions they are now experiencing in the hospitals in Italy.

From what I've seen and read (jmho), I think too many people are in a bit of denial as to the true nature of this virus. It doesn't really matter any longer where this virus emanated, or if there is some sort of huge conspiracy about the true nature of this illness and what intentions may be behind its cause.

The fact is, is that it is not the flu; it is an upper respiratory illness which is extremely contagious. It's most likely very difficult for those of whom have not yet witnessed the truly devastating effects of this virus because it hasn't yet peaked in various areas on the globe. This could really be a case of the boy who cried wolf one too many times and now that there is truly a threat out there, far too many are in disbelief and denial 'that it could happen to them.'

To not take steps in preparation for this virus, is just plain irresponsible. I would urge all who read at this blog to spend some time researching/reading international websites as to what physicians are stating (those of whom are actually in the middle of this pandemic). It's truly concerning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mrPHO-nkVE

goldenchameleon

@Cia I ordered those herbal formulas from Healing Spirits! Stephen Harrod Buhner is an incredible mind and resource. His synopsis of this novel coronavirus and how its mechanisms of action inform treatment is wonderful:

https://www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/coronavirus.txt.pdf

Bayareamom

Here is a full quote, provided by an Italian physician who is at ground zero treating patients in Italy. His statement is heartbreaking. (I have performed my due diligence and find that this is a real physician and that this statement is authentic.)

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"This is the English translation of a post of another ICU physician in Bergamo, Dr. Daniele Macchini. Read until the end "After much thought about whether and what to write about what is happening to us, I felt that silence was not responsible."

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Full text of translation here (of Dr. Daniele Macchini):

"I may be repeating myself, but I want to fight this sense of security that I see outside of the epicenters, as if nothing was going to happen "here". The media in Europe are reassuring, politicians are reassuring, while there's little to be reassured of.

This is the English translation of a post of another ICU physician in Bergamo, Dr. Daniele Macchini. Read until the end "After much thought about whether and what to write about what is happening to us, I felt that silence was not responsible.

I will therefore try to convey to people far from our reality what we are living in Bergamo in these days of Covid-19 pandemic. I understand the need not to create panic, but when the message of the dangerousness of what is happening does not reach people I shudder.

I myself watched with some amazement the reorganization of the entire hospital in the past week, when our current enemy was still in the shadows: the wards slowly "emptied", elective activitieswere interrupted, intensive care were freed up to create as many beds as possible.

All this rapid transformation brought an atmosphere of silence and surreal emptiness to the corridors of the hospital that we did not yet understand, waiting for a war that was yet to begin and that many (including me) were not so sure would ever come with such ferocity.

I still remember my night call a week ago when I was waiting for the results of a swab. When I think about it, my anxiety over one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified, now that I've seen what's happening. Well, the situation now is dramatic to say the least.

The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night. But now that need for beds has arrived in all its drama. One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace.

The boards with the names of the patients, of different colours depending on the operating unit, are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.

Now, explain to me which flu virus causes such a rapid drama. [post continues comparing covid19 to flu, link below]. And while there are still people who boast of not being afraid by ignoring directions, protesting because their normal routine is"temporarily" put in crisis,

The epidemiological disaster is taking place. And there are no more surgeons, urologists, orthopedists; we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us.

Cases are multiplying; we arrive at a rate of 15-20 admissions per day all for the same reason. The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive. Suddenly the E.R. is collapsing.

Reasons for the access always the same: fever and breathing difficulties, fever and cough, respiratory failure. Radiology reports always the same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia. All to be hospitalized.

Someone already to be intubated and go to intensive care. For others it's too late. Every ventilator becomes like gold: those in operating theatres that have now suspended their non-urgent activity become intensive care places that did not exist before.

The staff is exhausted. I saw the tiredness on faces that didn't know what it was despite the already exhausting workloads they had. I saw a solidarity of all of us, who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask "what can I do for you now?"

Doctors who move beds and transfer patients, who administer therapies instead of nurses. Nurses with tears in their eyes because we can't save everyone, and the vital parameters of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny.

There are no more shifts, no more hours. Social life is suspended for us. We no longer see our families for fear of infecting them. Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols.

Some of our colleagues who are infected also have infected relatives and some of their relatives are already struggling between life and death. So be patient, you can't go to the theatre, museums or the gym. Try to have pity on the myriad of old people you could exterminate.

We just try to make ourselves useful. You should do the same: we influence the life and death of a few dozen people. You with yours, many more. Please share this message. We must spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy."

I finish by saying that I really don't understand this war on panic. The only reason I see is mask shortages, but there's no mask on sale anymore. We don't have a lot of studies, but is it panic really worse than neglect and carelessness during an epidemic of this sort?"

Bayareamom

I was truly one of those who did not initially feel this pandemic was real, or that if it was, was not as serious as some have stated.

But of late, I've been researching as much as I can get my hands on and found some very troubling statements by physicians, both here in the U.S. and abroad (Italy for one) which have given me pause.

Consider Dr. Fink, a CA U.S. physician who is now treating COVID-19 patients in Tarzana, CA. I would urge all to read his recent statement given to the Daily Mail as of yesterday:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8098831/Coronavirus-doctor-reveals-patients-intensive-care-young-40.html

Angus Files

Thanks Kathy,even better, just what I need ridicule and larfter at Pharma expense..

Kathys My Corona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY8-N8-pn1I&ab_channel=PapaBakes

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Kathy Sincere

Bill,

For you - and for anyone else who needs a laugh - here is the American youtube version of Angus' post. Laughter is indeed the best medicine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=111&v=aY8-N8-pn1I&feature=emb_logo

Cia

A friend from Panama put a news bulletin from Panama on my FB page. The president announced the first cases in Panama today, a man diagnosed this morning who died today, plus four more, plus sixty cases diagnosed. She said there are only a thousand tests for the whole country. But the tests are interesting but not that important for slowing down the disease and saving lives. As Pogo said, only self-quarantine will do that. Can’t catch it if you’re not close to someone who has it, and if you have it, no one can catch it if you’re isolated.

Pft

Beleagured Autism mom

Good question about children. They certainly have no more immunity to a new virus than adults and elderly. A study out of China indicated they catch it at the same rate but the symptoms are mild

The difference is that childrens immune system is geared to minimize inflammatory processes of the innate immune system which is the first line of defense. In healthy people the innate immune system is usually adequate enough to halt a viral attack, and usually the infection clears before the adoptive immune system can get into the battle with their antibodies and T cells

The innate immune system creates inflammation which is responsible for many symptoms. Those with severe symptoms suffer from too much inflammation. The activated complement molecules of the innate system increase and regulate inflammation. The elderly have less effective overall immune systems so don't clear the infection as quickly as in younger people.

Elderly people have more chronic inflammation as a result of aging and hence more complement molecules. The complement models respond to covid-19 and coat the virus for other innate cells like macrophages and neutrophils which eat the virus. However, too many activated complement molecules increase inflammation to levels that cause pathogenic symptoms.

To make matters worse, since the elderly are slower to eliminate the virus due to a poorer functioning immune system, once the body starts creating antibodies (1-2 weeks after infection) , the antibodies activate another complement pathway so more complement molecules are produced, and together their immune response overwhelms the body already struggling with too much complement and excess inflammation. Complement is quite toxic to kidneys and many die with kidney failure on top of lung failure

One treatment now in clinical trials uses a complement inhibitor already approved by FDA for other uses.

Bill

....meanwhile, MY immune system is busy making anti-bodies the this new-gangled "novel coronavirus".....CoVID-19, huh....????..... what a joke. What a sad, sad, sad, sick joke....
That's what *I* think, anyway. Those are MY thoughts alone....
Gee, I sure hope this isn't the Globalists de-population agenda in action!....*snark* & sarcasm, ok?....
KEEP UP the GOOD WORK, people!
What if that old, now-dead President really WAS wrong, and we DO have something to fear besides fear itself....????....
To me, AoA seems like an oasis of calm, logical, rational thought in a world gone crazy!....
(BTW, Angus Files posted a link to a youtube video, above, but it won't play in my country, -America!)

Cia

Sorry, my link was wrong, it’s healingspiritsherbfarm.com

Cia

Dr. Buhner has a protocol at healingspiritsfarm.com for coronavirus. Notice that the two formulas for treatment focus on cytokine regulation because unregulated cytokine response is what results in cytokine storm.

Cia

Pogo,

My reply to Beleagered Mom hasn’t been posted yet. I think the reason that children don’t get bad cases is that their immune systems haven’t undergone the sensitization which many adults have which triggers a devastating autoimmune reaction to the Covid virus. If you look it up, this is similar to the Spanish flu in its being the overreaction of your own immune system which causes a cytokine storm and often death. Not the virus in itself. Both are/were new viruses, and some people’s immune systems just didn’t/don’t know how to react appropriately. In that case it was young adults between twenty and forty who were the hardest hit. Probably something sensitized their immune systems resulting in an unstoppable cytokine storm and death.

Angus Files

Every time I hear of Corona I think of the band called the Knack and the song My Sharona or in my head it s M-m-m-my CORONA no bottle opener needed Kim enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ng&ab_channel=TheKnackVEVO

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Pogo

Cia & Beleagured Autism Mom

My best guess as to why children are less affected would be that they have a stronger innate immune system. So I found this article which suggests the same and throes in some additional hypothesis. So take your pick but my moneys on the innate.
“Why are children 'missing' from coronavirus outbreak cases?”
https://www.livescience.com/why-kids-missing-coronavirus-cases.html
Exponential anythings’ can be worrying and it a good idea to know ones enemy so as to focus limited resources on where they are going to be most effective. So this simple explanation on the maths of the Coronavirus outbreak (with resent figures) may help rationalize ones chosen defence lines. Which in short is, the more people one mixes with the higher the chances of getting infected. And the more times you wash your hands the less likely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg
James Lyons-Weiler appears to have all the best advice all in one place: https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/26/things-you-dont-yet-know-but-need-to-know-about-the-novel-coronavirus-including-treatment-information-and-how-to-prepare-your-home/
The only thing he seems to have missed is. If during one’s daily activities one is likely to get coughed upon frequently. It may be useful to have some refuge sacks in the bathroom. So as soon as you get home you can place cloths in bag (for a hot wash) and then shower. And do this before coming into contact with anyone else in the house (which includes first putting cloth in washer one’s self). Maybe even have a fresh set of cloths ready and a second set of outdoor clothing on standby. Planing, preparing and rehearsing before hand, is easier than trying to do it on the spur of the moment and contaminating everything you touch in the process. Also reduces anxiety if one has a plan to follow.

cia

Bob,

Both are very serious problems, and both should have immediate positive action taken. Both are essentially autoimmune problems. But is it worse if a million children react to vaccines with autoimmune autism or if a million parents react to Covid with autoimmune death? Both are very bad, but Covid is exploding exponentially.

https://www.peakprosperity.com/coronavirus-why-the-us-is-in-deep-trouble/
https://twitter.com/LizSpecht
https://data.pressconnects.com/coronavirus/confirmed/
worldometers.info/coronavirus

"At the current rate of speed, conservative math calculates that by May, the current US Covid case count of 361 infected will jump to 4+ million. That is the power of exponential growth."

As of today, March 11, the number of confirmed cases in the US is 873, an increase of 169 since yesterday. The 361 mentioned in the article "Why the US is in Deep Trouble" is already outdated, having been correct when the article was published on Saturday, March 7. three days ago. 28 have died of it in the US so far, 2 today. Italy, about a month ahead of us, today has had 10,149 cases, 977 of them new since yesterday, with 631 deaths, 168 of them deaths today. The doubling time is being debated and is probably slightly different in different places, and certainly different in places making an effort to contain it. Many think that the doubling time is five days. But most of us remember articles in children's magazines about exponential growth. If you put a drop of a virus that doubles every minute in the middle of a football field, how long does it take before the field is covered and spectators are trapped? The answer is not long, with the final tremendous doubling occurring in the last minute.

It's very likely that this is just going to have to burn itself out when it runs out of susceptibles to infect, but that will mean millions of deaths just in the US at current rates. Worse, antibodies after recovery from infection don't seem to last long. At first I said, Yes, but there's probably anamnestic memory which will kick in producing antibodies on reexposure, or cellular immune memory of some sort. But they're having people recover, no more virus in samples taken from them, who then a few days later get it again, high viral count again, and even die, like one man in China. So my theory needs a little more work.

At Liz Specht's Twitter site it says today that 50% of Italians diagnosed with Covid are being hospitalized, 10% of them with life-threatening cases.

Again, we will refuse the vaccine. We have and have taken the nosode. But we will fully comply with any quarantines or travel bans enacted. That's how Singapore and Hong Kong have gotten control of this. In Singapore you can get a long prison sentence for violating quarantine and receive a large fine. On Saturday, many people in Milan fled by all means of transportation when word got out that all of northern Italy was going to be locked down. I don't know, what can you say about people like that, not caring if they spread it, only desperate to escape confinement themselves? I haven't read what they did when the whole country was locked down the next day.

goldenchameleon

@ Bob Moffit, I always look forward to reading your commentary. I admire your passion for this topic so much. "Tyranny is tyranny .. whether the tyrant wears a military uniform and is armed with a gun .. or .. the tyrant is dressed in white and armed with a syringe." Well said.

Beleagured Autism Mom

Cia, what is the biological reason children are not dying of coronavirus? If there is a shortage of test kits how do we know the deaths are not diagnostic substitutions? Thank you Kim I didn't know what that piece of metal on the bottom of my son's flip flop was.

Cia

I don’t think the world upheaval due to coronavirus is scandalous, but the unavoidable result of the most serious pandemic since the Spanish flu a hundred years ago. Italy is in an apocalyptic situation. From Lombardy and the Veneto being put in total lockdown a few days ago, to all of Italy now, all schools and universities being closed, all museums, all sporting events (for the first time since WWII), cancelled, with strict travel bans and quarantined put in place, we should pay close attention: the US is currently where Italy was about a month ago and China around January 20. This pandemic is increasing exponentially, something impossible to conceptualize. Twitter.com/lizspecht has a series of tweets on this which have gone viral. Peak Prosperity has many videos, almost one a day, which are free for public view, which are stellar. I’ve mentioned Worldometer.com on coronavirus with disease figures updated daily. Data.pressconnects.com has maps showing the spread: you can back the maps up to earlier dates with your finger to see how cases are exploding everywhere. The only countries which have successfully flattened the curve, albeit with very strict measures, have been South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong.

The danger of the virus starts increasing greatly at 40. It’s not just Granny and Grandpa who are in danger. Hospitals in Italy have been overwhelmed by the numbers. Today they have a thousand critically ill patients who need intubation to continue breathing; in ten days it will be three thousand. They (all of us) don’t have enough hospital beds, ventilators, or advanced equipment, and many are dying who could have been saved two months ago.

About ten states have declared states of emergency, and soon one will be called at the federal level. Our church sent us an email last week saying that wine would no longer be given in Mass, no holding hands during the Lord’s Prayer nor shaking hands at the Sign of Peace. It said that attendance at Mass was waived as an obligation during this crisis, so we won’t be going. We’re wearing masks and disposable vinyl gloves when we go out to get groceries, and spraying and wiping everything with Lysol or Clorox. We’ve bought a lot of groceries to have on hand.

The biggest danger is the autoimmune reaction many people mount when their immune system becomes desperate after several days of illness, and that is what often causes death. Just as we know that it is wrong to disregard the extreme disability often caused by vaccines on the grounds that it is a minority so severely affected, we should not disregard the extreme danger to “only” twenty percent of those who get Covid. We must come together now to curtail going out whenever possible, use mask and gloves when we do, wash hands obsessively, stock up on food, water, disinfectants, etc., and batten down for the storm ahead.

Bob Moffit

'Fear is out of proportion to the danger."

Autism 1 in 35 .. Coronavirus probably 1 in thousands? Media coverage given autism .. ZERO. Media coverage given Coronovirus 26/7 non-stop panic mode.

Yes indeed … in my eighty years I have witnessed the world FLIP-FLOP .. as unvaccinated children are denied access to public school and day care-centers … because their parents universal right to informed consent was denied them .. my country no longer resembles the country that I grew up in.

Tyranny is tyranny .. whether the tyrant wears a military uniform and is armed with a gun .. or .. the tyrant is dressed in white and armed with a syringe.

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