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Updated 18 March 2020 by JCVI and PHE - Public Health England.
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Item [1] Communication "Keitel Order?" issued? by Night and Fog Decree a "gag" order on the content of the meeting ? medication transparency forbidden !
DOKUMENTATION unter und bei," Nacht-und-Nebel- Erlass!"

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Section 34 Corona virus Act - Allows for obligatiory Vaccinations , another "Keitel Order" perhaps
Covid -19 Do Not Resusctate -DNR Forms freely available/preferable? for this respiritory infection . Especially for those with "Significant life limiting illnesses " Totally different situation as "Terminal illness"
Do they even know the difference between a life limiting illness and a life limiting condition !
Due to a systematic, synergistic, total failure and training deficiency in their early basic training modules many definately and most certainly "Do Not " have a damn clue what their basic roles and responsibilities are re this .
We do though, because we is and we are, original "Coughing Dodgers"

@Cia, I have seen several articles featuring ‘local insiders’ that confirm the wet markets are operational again. You don’t change cultural practice that’s gone on for thousands of years very easily. I will tell you this, though. I will NEVER get a vaccine because some people cage and butcher animals unsafely (and you should see the candid photos of these wet markets in Asia, Africa etc!)
Yes I had two family members that had something very flulike (high fever, bad lungs for weeks) late December) do its possible many were infected earlier.
It is sickening but predictable that pharma pushes this solution yet doesn’t go hard line on these wet markets, boycotts, whatever it takes and at the same time try to downplay cheap, effective drugs. They are showing their hand through all of this, class action lawsuits. Oh and I heard some tests kits actually harbour the virus.

Golden Chameleon,

We flew back from Mexico on December 6. On the morning of December 5, still at the beautiful hotel at Chichen Itza, Villas Arqueologicas, an older waitress stood beside our table overcome with a severe and unending fit of coughing. She finally went to the kitchen, still coughing. I was worried and told a younger waitress that she was coughing a lot and maybe needed to be given water to drink, to make sure they knew she was in distress. The next day we flew home, four airports, three flights. There were a lot of people coughing on all the planes. I thought it was a cold or flu going around and I’d probably get it. Arriving in St. Louis at nine we still had a three-hour icy shuttle ride in an I heated van, 35 F outside in capris and cardigan. That was Friday night, and I first felt sick on Monday evening. Extremely severe cough, I was completely unable to sing carols when we lit the Advent wreath and most evenings I was unable to even light the wreath. I also had the strangest profound fatigue I had ever had with an illness, just lying in bed unable even to read. Cecily took over feeding the cats in the evening, I just couldn’t do it, and I would go to bed at seven in the evening. It was the strangest flu I had ever had. I looked it up on the Internet to see what it was, and it said B Victoria flu was infecting millions of Americans. I read that it was unusual for two reasons: it was very unusual for it to have begun in November: usually it doesn’t start until the end of the flu season. And usually it’s much less severe than A flus, while this was often very severe.

With Icelandic scientists having isolated forty strains of this, I think probably this was one of them, but it’s different enough that it didn’t register when they started testing for X (?) strain in February. Otherwise a lot more people would have tested positive for it at that time, as it spreads very fast, with an R0 of at least 4. And since February that strain has been doubling about every three days. It is likely that many of the “flu” deaths this past winter were really deaths from one of the novel coronavirus strains, but they were unaware of its existence and could not test for it. Also likely that flu viruses were also present. All it would have taken was an infected person, probably from China, to have flown to the US to get it going. It turns out that many are asymptomatic throughout but can still transmit the virus. Or transmit it before they get symptoms, which may be as long as 24 days.

I recommend that you look up #masks4all, that’s the Czech initiative to educate the world on the crucial importance of EVERYONE wearing masks in public and if they’re still going to work. We’re wearing mask and gloves when we go to the store once a week, I wipe the steering wheel, gear shift, and door handles inside and outside the car with Lysol wipes when we get home, and spray the bottom of our shoes with Lysol spray.

That may be why people are getting it again after having it and testing negative. They may be getting another strain. Which means that even if you show antibodies for one strain, it still may not be safe to go back into the water.

NYC has now set up tent cities in Central Park to house coronavirus patients, the same as it did in 1918 for the Spanish flu. London has set up hundreds of beds in a large building whose name I’ve forgotten. I was worried thinking of the greatly-amplified viral load there, increasing the danger for both patients and doctors.

And I think the many new mutations may account for changes like many more healthy young people getting severe cases, often dying of it. A 12 year old girl in Georgia, a newborn in the US. a healthy 16 year old girl in France, a 17 year old in Gouda on a ventilator and in a medically-induced coma, a 21 year old girl in the UK last week... How many of them were offered or given hydr- and Z-pak? If not, why not? Its benefits have been known for months.

If MSM’s lips are moving, one can rightly assume they are lying. Worth the 12-minute watch:

https://youtu.be/5pIMD1enwd4

Thank goodness we do not have socialized medicine in the United States, only socialized Capitalism, as our corporations will try to save us again.

J&J making a vaccine - what could possibly go wrong?!!! On the bright side, if it's true (as I read somewhere) that healthcare workers will be among the first to receive a vaccine, well, things will sure get interesting when they suffer adverse reactions to it. Suddenly, all of us won't seem quite so crazy anymore, eh? Perhaps there is justice in the world after all.

China made wet markets illegal all over the country a couple of months ago. I’m sure the poor animals will continue to be sold on the black market and that the Chinese government will use harsh, but necessary, means to stop it.

They have to develop an effective vaccine. The current situation is not tenable. Scientists in Iceland have identified forty strains of this coronavirus, complicating the effort to learn how many have or had it or them. There is evidence that many Americans got a strain of it between November and January, but a new coronavirus was not on anyone’s horizon, and it was often confused with and diagnosed as B Victoria and then H1N1 and H3N2 A. That might be why they said it was unusual for B Victoria to occur so early and often be so serious. I’m thinking it’s what I caught on a plane in early December.

It makes it harder to make a vaccine, but many vaccines include several strains. It may be that L and S account for most of the cases, but the faux flu strain may be different.

We can’t go on like this. I’m sure everyone has read about the choir practice on March 10 which infected half the choir members, killing two of them. The death toll in NYC, the high toll among doctors and nurses, and police officers. The future vaccine should not be mandated, but the vaccine itself has to be developed.

You should just see all the astroturfing and cheerleading on their Facebook page, mostly employees.
So instead of stopping dangerous , filthy wet markets we are all supposed to take an untested (as we know most of them truly are) vaccine. From the givers of talc cancer baby powder. No thank you.

I am terrified of the prospect of adult mandates, and I also see the opportunity the coronavirus fiasco represents for a popular uprising against our pharmaceutical handlers. The health choice movement could mobilize around a leader, such as JFK Jr., who could file suit on our behalf. Imagine if all the like minds in America got together to pool resources for key lawsuits. Paul Offit's and Hoetz' recent statements regarding prudence around the coronavirus vaccine are telling. It's like they know an adult mandate could poke the bear.