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AP Exclusive: Coronavirus vaccine test opens with 1st doses

Jennifer Haller
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Meet Jennifer Haller and Neal Browning, first test participants of a COVID-19 vaccine.  Are they Sally Ride and John Glenn or Krista McAuliffe and Gus Grissom?

My overwhelming feeling in these COVID19 days is sadness. Not a lot of worry. There’s caution, of course. My 3 daughters are home, and it’s a struggle to explain the end of their routines. I'm a tidy housekeeper as a rule, though I'm cleaning more frequently.  I don’t feel any  panic. Just sadness at this situation. We are being told to act as if we have been attacked from coast to coast - as if Pearl Harbor and Bay of Pigs and Oklahoma City and the Twin Towers - were all rolled up into a speck we can not see with the human eye.  And yet we are not able to utter the name of the nation that was perhaps the birthplace of this virus. There's no mention of the Harvard Chemistry Chair who was taken into custody by the FBI for taking $50,000 a MONTH in secret deal from China - and the Wuhan Institute of Technology. I know I'm just a tinfoil hat wearing AofA non expert dummy - but that seems  at least worth a chat in this discussion of this maniacal virus from "nowhere."

Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University's Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, has been arrested and criminally charged with making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the U.S. Defense Department about his ties to a Chinese government program to recruit foreign scientists and researchers.

The Justice Department says Lieber, 60, lied about his contact with the Chinese program known as the Thousand Talents Plan, which the U.S. has previously flagged as a serious intelligence concern. He also is accused of lying about about a lucrative contract he signed with China's Wuhan University of Technology.  ...he was the principal investigator on more than $10 million in grants funded by the National Institutes of Health.  From NPR Acclaimed Harvard Scientist Is Arrested, Accused Of Lying About Ties To China.

Half the nation was clamoring for open borders a few weeks ago. Half the nation was arguing for a wall.  Half the nation would likely cheer if the President contracted COVID19 and died - I've read enough posts on social media to say that with a good degree of confidence.  Half the nation thinks this is an effort to topple the President.  We have been a nation of haves and have nots for a long time, but now we are nation of halfs and halfs.   In Italy, citizens are throwing open their doors and windows and singing together from house to house, in unity.  Is that even possible in the United States any longer? One nation, indivisible seems like a memory. Who benefits by this division?

I looked up Ms. Haller on Facebook.  She's a member of the COVID19 Mutual Aid Solidarity Network whose description is, "Collective well-being thought class solidarity, disability justice, anti-racism, abolition, Neoliberal individualistic public health hurts us all."  I have no idea what any of that means.  I see a profile pic with a pretty youngster who might be a daughter in a photo with Senator Elizabeth Warren, probably during a political stop last summer. I’d steer clear of any vaccine trial personally. But I’m pro-choice.  And that means I am pro-choice. Still I wish those who decide to participate safe harbor. Haller is a Mom. I am a Mom.  I just don’t understand the storm.

Kim

SEATTLE (AP) —

AP Exclusive: Coronavirus vaccine test opens with 1st doses

U.S. researchers gave the first shots in a first test of an experimental coronavirus vaccine Monday, leading off a worldwide hunt for protection even as the pandemic surges.

With careful jabs in the arms of four healthy volunteers, scientists at the Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle began an anxiously awaited first-stage study of a potential COVID-19 vaccine developed in record time after the new virus exploded out of China and fanned out across the globe.

“We’re team coronavirus now,” Kaiser Permanente study leader Dr. Lisa Jackson said on the eve of the experiment. “Everyone wants to do what they can in this emergency.”

The Associated Press observed as the study’s first participant, an operations manager at a small tech company, received the injection in an exam room.

“We all feel so helpless. This is an amazing opportunity for me to do something,” Jennifer Haller, 43, of Seattle said before getting vaccinated. Her two teenagers “think it’s cool” that she’s taking part in the study.

After the injection, she left the exam room with a big smile: “I’m feeling great.”

Three others were next in line for a test that will ultimately give 45 volunteers two doses, a month apart.

Neal Browning, 46, of Bothell, Washington, is a Microsoft network engineer who says his young daughters are proud he volunteered.

“Every parent wants their children to look up to them,” he said. But he’s told them not to brag to their friends. “It’s other people, too. It’s not just Dad out there.”

Monday’s milestone marked just the beginning of a series of studies in people needed to prove whether the shots are safe and could work. Even if the research goes well, a vaccine would not be available for widespread use for 12 to 18 months, said Dr. Anthony Fauci of the U.S. National Institutes of Health.

Still, finding a vaccine “is an urgent public health priority,” Fauci said in a statement Monday. The new study “is an important first step toward achieving that goal.”

This vaccine candidate, code-named mRNA-1273, was developed by the NIH and Massachusetts-based biotechnology company Moderna Inc. There’s no chance participants could get infected because the shots do not contain the coronavirus itself.   Read more at AP Exclusive: Coronavirus vaccine test opens with 1st doses .

Comments

Benedetta

Coronavirus is causing high inflammation.
There are reports that it could cause heart problems, even later on? Am I understanding that right?
So they are giving chloroquine to lower inflammation.
Yet, we are warned that anti - inflammatory medicines like aspirin will make it more deadly.

Once again the world makes no sense to me.
But it never really has.

Young people should never take aspirin with the flu because it causes Reyes syndrome.
Young people should never take aspirin with chicken pox cause it could result in Reyes syndrome.
Yet the ones that ended up with Reyes - I knew two young people -- were not taking a regular dose of aspirin, a small dose, the recommended dose, but massive doses.

AND that is why I ended up giving Tylenol with the vaccines to my kids. Useless, Tylenol!. When aspirin would have been safer, worked better, and maybe we would have came out with better outcomes if I had just used aspirin.

Aspirin was the only thing that got us through Kawasaki's. Small dose, every day for a year; not large.

I also figured out that there were such a thing as periodical fever syndrome; a high fever that lasted for one or two weeks almost monthly, or bimonthly that came around like clock work.

These episodes were further causing my kids, my son to slip deeper into autism.

It was the aspirin that saved both of my kids from going deeper into classical autism. At least I think so. Pretty sure it was God whispering in my ear as I stood out in the hall way praying as my son laid sick, and feverish in his darken bedroom; I think so.

What am I missing here?
Why is there now a warning on the Ibuprofen box that it can cause heart attacks? Is it the dose there too?

I don't understand and I don't think the medical people do either. But they all sure do love Acetaminophen.

Has Acetaminophen ever taken down a fever for any of you all?
Has Acetaminophen ever relieved any type of pain that any of you all have ever had? A headache? A back ache? A leg ache?

goldenchameleon

Dr. Malcom Kendrick had an excellent blog today in which he contemplated the therapeutic approaches that would theoretically be curative or harmful for COVID-19 infections. His thoughts on NSAIDs:

1: Anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs)

COVID-19 appears to impact the lungs more than any other organ and COVID-19 can be thought of as a ‘viral’ community acquired pneumonia. There has been evidence for several years that anti-inflammatory agents e.g. ibuprofen, naproxen (NSAIDs) may worsen community acquired pneumonia. As highlighted in this 2017 paper:

‘Non-steroidal Anti-inflammatory Drugs may Worsen the Course of Community-Acquired Pneumonia: A Cohort Study:

CONCLUSIONS:

Our findings suggest that NSAIDs, often taken by young and healthy patients, may worsen the course of CAP with delayed therapy and a higher rate of pleuropulmonary complications.’ 1

There is now anecdotal evidence, particularly from France, that patients who take NSAIDs do considerably worse. It has been suggested they may lead to an increased death rate.

ADVICE: Avoid NSAIDs if possible

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/03/18/coronavirus-covid-19/

Cia

Golden Chameleon, David L, pft, Baysreamom, and others,

I’m at [email protected]. I’m having problems addressing your excellent comments.

Benedetta

Thanks John Stone and Cia;
I wondered also that those suffering from chronic inflammation are also NSAIDs users?
Inflammation and NSAIDS users are us.
Last night, as I was hurrying to fill clear the feeding tube for my father (aluminum paralysis all, even the 95 year olds!) Some experts said coronavirus was affected those with epilepsy in a bad way.

OH, no.
I often wonder if epilepsy just might be inflammation of the vagal nerve.

I googled it this morning, and it says those with well controlled epilepsy and no other health problems, have no problem with the cornovirus. But if you epilepsy and other underlying health problems it is a different story.

The harvesting effect indeed!
I went to Save a Lot today to pick up a few groceries. ? ! What the heck! Last week they cleaned out the store! I have never seen a store cleaned out before? Well maybe when they are going out of business. Hubby wanted cottage cheese, there was only one carton of cottage cheese left. Plenty of yogurt though. We live in strange times, indeed!

Benedetta

nhokkanen. He woke up from his coma?

David L

Dr. Frank Plummer, a scientist who received $8.3 million in grant money from the Gates Foundation, and was the director of Canada’s National Microbiology Lab when it received coronavirus samples, died in Kenya weeks after the official start of the 2019 coronavirus outbreak. Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg has a sample of the new coronavirus that is causing infections in a number of countries, most notably Saudi Arabia. Scientific director Dr. Frank Plummer says the lab obtained the virus from the Erasmus Medical Centre in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. The Dutch lab was the one that first identified the new virus last June in a sample from a Saudi man who had died of a mysterious illness. Plummer says the coronavirus arrived at the Winnipeg facility on May 4.
He says the lab is growing up stocks of the virus and will use it to assess diagnostic tests being used in Canada. As well Winnipeg scientists plan to do some work to see which animal species can be infected with the new virus. https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=57574

Dr. Larry Gelmon, who helped set up that meeting, said Plummer collapsed and was taken to hospital in Nairobi, where he was pronounced dead on arrival. No confirmed cause of death has yet been released. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/scientist-frank-plummer-death-1.5451624

After being affiliated with the business for 44-years, Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates has officially stepped down from the company’s board. it seems that he wants to continue to place additional efforts into his foundation and concentrate more on his philanthropic work without any distractions that being part of Microsoft’s board may have been bringing. https://www.redmondpie.com/bill-gates-has-announced-hes-stepping-down-from-the-microsoft-board/

goldenchameleon

Mark Hyman has an excellent document with information about protecting yourself from a COVID-19 infection: https://drhyman.com/blog/2020/03/17/protect-yourself-from-covid-19/

He even mentions intravenous vitamin C and ozone as potential treatments.

He provides some insightful commentary around testing:

"South Korea, early on, developed a test that is 98% accurate. They perform 10,000 tests a day (vs. 5,000 total in the US as of today) and have a mortality rate of about 0.6%, which is more than the flu (0.1%) but far less than China or Italy where extensive testing was not done and mortality rates are between 2.4% to 6%, most likely due to lack of diagnosis in mildly symptomatic people.

The clearest data for mortality among ambulatory, well-fed individuals comes from the Diamond Princess cruise ship because all of the 3,500 people on board were tested. So far, 706 have tested positive for the virus and 6 have died, a case fatality rate of 0.85%, almost 10 times greater than the average flu but similar to that seen with severe epidemics of influenza."

Bob Moffit

@ Salley Rubin & Aimee Doyle

"Bob Moffit, I live in one of the cities with large homeless encampments. Generally, they are not populated with immigrants."

My comment regarding SANCTUARY cities not enforcing immigration laws … was not meant to suggest immigrants are populating homeless encampments in major US cities .. after all .. it is common knowledge the THOUSANDS homeless in our streets are NOT IMMIGRANTS .. instead they are our fellow CITIZENS .. indeed, many are veterans who served our country .. now suffer serious mental health problems .. complicated further by drug and alcohol addiction.

The point I was trying to make is most .. if not all .. the major cities with THOUSANDS living in squalid unhealthy conditions have deliberately IGNORED their growing HOMELESS PROBLEMS for decades .. as evidenced by no longer enforcing public health laws prohibiting urinating/defecating in public streets and parks .. but .. during those very same decades those same cities found both .. the time and energies .. to create SANCTUARY CITY PROTECTIONS of ever increasing immigration population by IGNORING all immigration laws.

(It is one thing to ignore existing immigration laws to establish SANCTUARY CITIES .. it is quite another to ignore basic public health laws to establish UNSANITARY CITIES)

It is a GIVEN … IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS .. THAT RESPONSIBILITY LIES PURELY IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF POLITICIANS WHO CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE SQUALID UNHEALTHY CONDITIONS PERVASIVE IN HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. SHAME ON THEM .. NOT IMMIGRANTS.

elaine dow

One thing that has been exposed with this is all the medication ingredients made in China, very frightening that we are so dependent on them for medical necessities. Of course, our vaccines too!!!! I watch during every commercial break for sorriatic arthritis the drugs needed. According to one of our local doctors, this is extremely uncommon, but the ads are every commercial break. With autism so common, no commercials for medications to help autism, nystantin, antifungals, food with no allergens. My brother, who worked for Sanofi, said that over 20% of their budget is spent on marketing. I am very concerned about all the children whose immune system is so screwed up from the vaccines may be at great risk to get this virus.

Hans Scholl

Its all over the internet, the lady in the photo is an actress.
She has been used on several other occasions. Photographed with Elizabeth Warren
A crisis actor , they call them. They use them all the time.

People even calling out other very fine details.

Anne Jividen

Stop! Hold up! The vaccine has not gone through an animal model?! The vaccine does not contain the coronavirus antigen. I cry foul!

go Trump

Not difficult to see where all this is going.

Lock down the entire nation until some damn CV vaccine is approved and the need for an "Adult mandates for the Entire Nation" becomes LAW.

Any death anywhere can be called a coronavirus death which will continue at whatever rate the medical news media mafia wants.

Those in the vaccine trials will become American heroes like those who went to the moon. No group larger than 50 or maybe even 10 ? is allow to meet anywhere, the American Constitution is pretty much over with.

Cia

David,

France, Germany, Spain, Italy, and increasingly the UK, are being overwhelmed. I just read an article by Dr. Gallagher at The Guardian. He described a 79 year old woman who was going to have an elective, non-urgent procedure. She caught cotonaviris while on the wards of the hospital but she died last night. He said she should have lived to ninety. And that she’d probably be written off as an old woman with another condition which had nothing to do with coronavirus or her death.

Europe is burning. We may be burning soon. I think it should be obvious that the thousands who have suffocated to death were not all really going to die of something else anyway.

Increasing numbers are saying that the only way to defeat the virus is to test everyone, isolate the sick, trace all their contacts and quarantine them, and freeze everyone else at home until the disease is cornered and everyone positive either recovers or dies. Right now at Worldometers.info it looks like mortality is nine percent, like SARS, but that’s so much higher than they’ve been saying that I’ll have to wasn’t for explanations.

David L

The next deadly disease that will cause a global pandemic is coming, Bill Gates said at a discussion of epidemics. We're not ready. An illness like the pandemic 1918 influenza could kill 30 million people within six months, Gates said, adding that the next disease might not even be a flu, but something we've never seen. The world should prepare as it does for war, Gates said. (2018) https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-warns-the-next-pandemic-disease-is-coming-2018-4?op=1 https://www.ibtimes.com/did-bill-gates-predict-coronavirus-outbreak-2913482 Bill Gates: The next outbreak, we're not ready (2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI

A pandemic simulation exercise of coronavirus took place only weeks before the first illness from the coronavirus was actually reported in Wuhan, China. That is one hell of a coincidence if you believe in that sort of thing. In this report you will see footage from inside the event from the members of the emergency epidemic board in this simulation consisting of representatives from major banks, the UN, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Johnson and Johnson, logistical powerhouses, the media as well as officials from China and America’s CDC just to name a few. This simulation also includes news reports that were fabricated just for this exercise — please keep that in mind because they are eerily similar to reports we are currently seeing regarding this real-world coronavirus outbreak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx8xKcQMTRs 1st known case of coronavirus traced back to November in China https://www.livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html

In the vaccine space, we’ve (Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation) funded early-stage companies like CureVac and Moderna, which are using so-called messenger RNA approaches to developing vaccines. 1/2018 https://sha.rest/h0Teqo  Vaccines that use a mirror image of DNA to halt the growth of bacteria and viruses appear capable of speeding development of the prevention tools dramatically, Gates said in an interview. Moderna Therapeutics Inc. and CureVac GmbH are two companies developing the approach, Gates said, which is based on a genetic messenger called mRNA. “Even if a new pandemic broke out of something you’d never seen before, you might be able to get a new vaccine developed in months,” as opposed to years, he said on the sidelines of a meeting in London focused on malaria. (4/2018) https://sha.rest/hZP1LI

Moderna: The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has committed up to $20.0 million in grant funding to support our initial project related to the evaluation of antibody combinations in a preclinical setting as well as the conduct of a first-in-human Phase 1 clinical trial of a potential mRNA medicine to help prevent human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, infections. Follow-on projects which could bring total potential funding under the framework agreement up to $100.0 million (including the HIV antibody project) to support the development of additional mRNA-based projects for various infectious diseases can be proposed and approved until the sixth anniversary of the framework agreement, subject to the terms of the framework agreement, including our obligation to grant to the Bill &Melinda Gates Foundation certain non-exclusive licenses. https://www.modernatx.com/ecosystem/strategic-collaborators/foundations

Moderna Announces Funding Award from CEPI to Accelerate Development of Messenger RNA (mRNA) Vaccine Against Novel Coronavirus. Under the terms of the agreement, Moderna will manufacture an mRNA vaccine against 2019-nCoV, which will be funded by CEPI. https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-funding-award-cepi-accelerate-development CEPI was founded in Davos by the governments of Norway and India, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Wellcome Trust, and the World Economic Forum.” https://www.naturalblaze.com/2020/01/vaccine-for-the-china-virus-the-planet-is-the-guinea-pig-for-a-vast-experiment.html  

Inovio Pharmaceuticals Inc. in Plymouth Meeting announced Thursday that it received a grant of up to $9 million to rapidly develop a vaccine for the new coronavirus. The grant to Inovio comes from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), a partnership that receives money from public and private groups, including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus-china-vaccine-inovio-bill-gates-20200123.html

The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) is launching a rush program to develop a vaccine against the China coronavirus. The goal? Have a vaccine ready for human testing in an unprecedented 90 days. NIH is partnering with a US vaccine company, Moderna, Inc. The vaccine is a new type called RNA. According to Reuters https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-vaccines/with-wuhan-virus-genetic-code-in-hand-scientists-begin-work-on-a-vaccine-idUSKBN1ZN2J8, “[these are] vaccines based on ribonucleic acid (RNA)—a chemical messenger that contains instructions for making proteins.”

In 2000, the bill and melinda gates foundation made an initial USD 750 million commitment to the Vaccine Fund, which was catalytic in bringing other donors to support vaccine delivery and creating Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance. As a founding partner of Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, the Gates Foundation has brought international attention to the cause of immunisation and has made several commitments to Gavi, totalling USD 4.1 billion to-date. https://www.gavi.org/investing-gavi/funding/donor-profiles/bill-melinda-gates-foundation  ID2020 as well.

Critics wonder how much autonomy recipients of Gates’s money, like the WHO, really have. The WHO has always been funded by two types of contributions: “assessed” and “voluntary.” Its member countries have to pay dues to the agency each year — the assessed contributions — and WHO staff can direct funding to areas they think should be prioritized. With assessed contributions, McGoey said, “the WHO typically has more freedom to spend the money on the most pressing health concerns, rather than on pet projects specified by a charitable donor.” With voluntary funding — the type Gates gives — the donations are overwhelmingly specified for a particular purpose by the donor. In 2018, Gates was again one of the top three contributors of voluntary funds to the WHO’s general fund.

“WHO is faced with budget constraints,” McGoey said. “They’re under-resourced, and they need financing from somewhere. But they may have been a little naive in accepting a lot of Gates money, because it does come with strings attached.” Those strings can involve hiring consultants. As Gates began regularly paying for consultants on behalf of institutions like the WHO, it created a “reliance” on the firms. The total value of the consultant contracts is about $12 million, at least a quarter of which has been paid for directly by Gates. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/12/13/21004456/bill-gates-mckinsey-global-public-health-bcg

Cia

John and Benedetta,

I read that aspirin increased mortality from the Spanish flu from 25% to 40% because as a blood thinner it increased hemorrhage in patients already suffering from the sudden, severe pneumonia which was the hallmark of the disease. It would be the same for coronavirus pneumonia.

Cia

I agree that the future vaccine may be very dangerous. But I think we should think about what the options are. I just read several tweets at the account of Rachel Clarke, who has put up tweets by NHS doctors who say that the present situation with coronavirus in A&E in the U.K. is absolute carnage. One said that everyone had known this was coming since January, but they hadn’t even bought adequate masks for all the doctors. I had read that the UK government had decided that it would be better to let it burn through, thinking it would confer herd immunity to those who recovered, and accepting that half a million Brits would die. It thought that there would probably be another wave next winter, and it would be all to the good if millions had already had it, fewer to worry about. I thought the government had changed its mind on that and was going to try flattening the curve. If you were able to flatten the curve enough to not crash the medical system, it is projected that it would take ten years of gradually letting everyone get it, giving all patients advanced ICU care if they needed it. But I don’t think anyone thinks we can control it to that degree for ten years. So what are the options?

It may not be possible, but if they can develop a vaccine that even offers better odds than seven percent mortality, I think most people would take it eagerly. I’ll have to wait and see as to whether it’s better to just let millions die without resistance (half a million in the case of the U.K.) to get the agony over with or resist and hope better options materialize. What’s going on in the U.K.? Have they really had a change of heart about just letting it happen? If so, what is the plan?

John Stone

Pft

Thank you for the interesting timeline - I am not sure why the gratuitous remarks at beginning.

Benedetta

Aspirin was, of course, never mentioned specifically - perhaps it was too old-fashioned for them to even think of it, though you can still buy it over the counter. I suppose there is always a question of whether you should automatically be trying to suppress a fever which I understand to be the body trying to fight the pathogen - perhaps it is partly how unpleasant it gets.

Fake scientists

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yn074EB5NNY
Very interesting and short

Fake scientists

I have heard reference to being a crisis actor. Remember Nurse Kaci Hickox had some bizarre position with the CDC. I hope Trump calls out these sick deep state ‘health people soon.
Also notable that beloved influenza vaccines are associated with virus interference
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/

NHokkanen

Neil Browning, the second volunteer to receive an experimental Coronavirus vaccine, told TV’s Inside Edition he’d lacked some key information before consenting to the procedure.

Inside Edition: “Neil says after he signed up, he was surprised to learn this was the first trial for the vaccine.”
Browning: “Initially, no, I did not know that. It was a little bit of a surprise to me when this came out.”
Inside Edition: “So you didn’t know that you were gonna be essentially a human guinea pig.”
Browning: “I definitely knew that this was a first for this specific trial. I didn’t know it was the first of, pretty much, any doing this kind of research.”

Browning said he was told to watch for fever, swelling of joints, nausea, soreness, swelling around injection site. He reported feeling “a very slight amount of soreness initially” when he woke up, but after a while it went away.

Bayareamom

Just checked out the Fact Check website (and read their article re the Harvard scientist).

Also found this:

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/12/rep-elect-green-wrong-about-vaccines-cdc-fraud/


Not so sure I trust these journalists re their 'facts.'

Aimee Doyle

@Bob Moffit and @Sally

I live in Maryland and practice law in Maryland, DC, and Virginia. Although I do primarily disability law now, for a couple of years I did pro bono legal work with the Washington Legal Clinic for the Homeless.

In my experience, homeless shelters in Washington DC are not primarily full of immigrants. A sizeable percentage of homeless individuals are American citizens who suffer from mental illness, including a significant number of homeless veterans. Another subpopulation are individuals who suffer from substance abuse and cannot access treatment due to lack of health insurance. And then there are displaced families, who have been evicted from their apartments due to inability to pay DC rents. The waiting list for subsidized housing (such as Section 8) in DC is several years long.

Here is what DC is doing with its homeless population: they do recognize that coronavirus spread is a serious problem. https://wamu.org/story/20/03/11/coronavirus-is-of-particular-concern-for-d-c-s-large-homeless-shelters/

Benedetta

John Stone:
Why would aspirin cause coronavirus infection to be worse?
Are they giving too much, I wonder? Too much?

I could see Ibuprofen involved with increase in heart attacks maybe causing more problems?
Odd times.

I am not allowing Tylenol in my house, don't work anyway.

Angus Files

Thanks Pam
Very clever people being duped again..

"But in 1992, Congress put the fox in the chicken coop. It passed the Prescription Drug User Fee Act, which authorizes drug companies to pay “user fees” to the FDA for each brand-name drug considered for approval. Nearly all of the money generated by these fees has been earmarked to speed up the approval process."

" coincidence"Pharmas favourite main course .followed by the dessert "no connection"

"The social media post goes on to imply that Lieber is somehow connected to the new coronavirus because the Chinese university he was involved with was located in Wuhan, where the COVID-19 outbreak began. But there is no evidence that is anything more than a coincidence. When we asked about any connection between Lieber and the new coronavirus, a DOJ spokesperson told us in an email, “The Department of Justice has made no such allegation.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/no-link-between-harvard-scientist-charles-lieber-and-coronavirus/

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Pft

Guess you have all swallowed the coolaid. Pretty sad. Forrest said “Dumb is as Dumb does”

Anyways, I know this wont get posted but here you go

Condensed Corona Time line

2000- The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation gives US$ 750 million to set up Gavi

2002 -Godfather of corona virus (Ralph Baric of UNC ) patents process for a coronavirus vaccine.

2003 (February) JASON group (scientific think tank) issues DARPA funded study report on Biotetection Architectures stating “It is essential to conduct realistic exercises of a biodetection architecture in order to assess technical capabilities and refine operational procedures .... useful exercise(s) should entail pre-defined tests of the system through a series of staged events.”

2003-SARS coronavirus released in China

2003 After the SARS outbreak Shi Zhengli led a team to collect bat samples across the country for virus detect the Corona viruses

2005- Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005 (S. 1873) The bill createsa new federal agency, the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Agency (BARDA), that would act "as the single point of authority" to promote advanced research and development of drugs and vaccines in response to bioterrorism and natural disease outbreaks, while shielding the agency from public Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. BARDA would be exempt from long-standing open records and meetings laws that apply to most government departments.

The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA),signed into law by George W. Bush in December, 2005, is a tort liability shield intended to protect vaccine manufacturers from financial risk in the event of a declared public health emergency. PREPA provides $3.8 billion for pandemic influenza preparedness to protect public health in the case of a pandemic disease outbreak

2007-The AMC is a special financing mechanism set up in 2007 by GAVI and six donors (Italy, the United Kingdom, Canada, the Russian Federation, Norway, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation) to stimulate development of  vaccines. 


2008-Biolake established in Wuhan. Biolake has become home to more than 1,800 bio firms and over 50,000 highly-skilled professionals, with annual output exceeding 120 billion yuan ($17.76 billion).

2008-The Thousand Talents Program (TTP) was established by the central government of China to recognize and recruit leading international experts in scientific research, innovation, and entrepreneurship. TTP is alleged to facilitate economic espionage and theft of intellectual property to be used by China’s military-civil sectors which like the US is interlocked

2009-H1N1 Pandemic Scare in spring through fall setting stage for Obama Care to pass in December

2010-Study by Rockefeller Foundation on impact of a coronavirus like pandemic on society and governance, . One scenario envisioned is “Lock Step: A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback.”

2010 -Shi Zhengli’s team published a paper to examine the sensitivity of different types of bat ACE2 to human SARS-CoV spike protein (S protein) using live SARS virus and HIV (AIDS) pseudovirus.


2010- DARPA and NIH funded review on Synthetic Viruses published.

“Rapid progress in DNA synthesis and sequencing is spearheading the deliberate, large-scale genetic alteration of organisms. .... the de novo synthesis of viral genomes in the absence of a natural template....large-scale changes will be introduced into numerous viruses, allowing the creation of redesigned particles....


In 2011, Professor Lieber , Harvard Department Chair joined Wuhan University of Technology in China as a scientist. He also participated in the Thousand Talents Plan. He was given more than $1.5m to establish a research lab at Wuhan University of Technology.

2013-MERS-CoV released. First known case was in Jordan (retrospectively) but announced during outbreak in Saudi Arabia some months later in September

October 30, 2013, Nature magazine published a paper entitled “Isolation and characterization of a bat SARS-like Coronavirus that uses the ACE2 receptor“, from the research team including Ge Xingyi, Shi Zhengli, Dasak and other experts from Yunnan. Shi Zhengli provided the SHC014 Coronavirus S protein sequence and plasmid, which is her field of expertise.

2013 -President Obama in March signed a law giving $2.8 billion in funding to a decade-old biodefense effort called "Project Bioshield," extending it for another five years.

The Department of Homeland Security uses intelligence reports to decide which diseases and biological threats are considered "material," or realistic threats to US security. It then refers these findings to Health and Human Services (HHS), which determines whether it's necessary for the government to order new drugs from pharmaceutical companies to combat the threats.

A funding agency within HHS called the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) hands out lucrative contracts, parts of which can be paid up front.

The parent agency (HHS) in charge of funding drugs for the national stockpile, is also the one that is separately funding research into new diseases that could result in a bioterror or accidental infection, which would in turn demand a response from the national stockpile. Sounds like a racket

2014 Shi Zhengli received a $665,000 grant from NIH for a study titled The Ecology of Bat Coronaviruses and the Risk of Future Coronavirus Emergence as well as $559,500 more from USAID for a study titled Emerging Pandemic Threats PREDICT_2China

2014 - The federal government temporarily stopped funding any new studies that could make three high-risk infectious diseases even more dangerous. The concern is that so-called gain-of-function studies would alter viruses in the lab in ways that could make them more pathogenic or contagious should they be released.

November 9, 2015 Ralph Baric of UNC and Shi Zhengli jointly published a study on their efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. Funding for this project was from the DoD

2015 The Wuhan Institute of Virology opens the first biosafety level 4 (BSL–4) laboratory to be built in mainland China. Shih Zhengli having helped build a hyper-virulent coronavirus from scratch at UNC - just so happens to be working at this lab that also just so happens to be at the epicenter of an outbreak involving a coronavirus

2015 MERS From May to July , a large outbreak of MERS initiated by an infected traveler from the Arabian Peninsula swept South Korea and resulted in 186 confirmed cases and 38 deaths.


2016-Bill Gates in speech says Population can be reduced by up to 15% with new vaccines, healthcare and reproductive management.

2016- iD2020 alliance established, funded by Bill Gates and others. Launched in response to the UN Sustainable Development Goal 16.9: “provide legal identity to all, including birth registration, by 2030”,

2016-The Insect Allies program was announced by DARPA in 2016. Some claim DARPA is potentially developing insects as a means of delivering a "new class of biological weapon."

2017-World Bank issues 300 million in Pandemic Bonds. Default triggered should a pandemic be declared before July 2020. Gates funded WHO declares Pandemic on March 11-2020 after over 110,000 cases, in over 110 countries. Note all the 11’s here

2017- CEPI was founded in Davos by the governments of Norway and India, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Wellcome Trust, and the World Economic Forum in 2017. Its mission is to stimulate and accelerate the development of vaccines against emerging infectious diseases and enable access to these vaccines for people during outbreaks.

The CEO is the former director of BARDA ( U.S. Biomedical Advanced Research and Development  Authority (BARDA), part of the HHS Office.
The director is an ex employee of the world bank.

2017-December. The National Institutes of Health announced that it is lifting a funding pause dating back to October 2014 on gain-of-function (GOF) experiments involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses.

2017- Documents released under FOIA show DARPA has become the world’s largest funder of “gene drive” research. It is investing $100m in genetic extinction technologies that could wipe out malarial mosquitoes, invasive rodents or OTHER SPECIES,

2018- DARPA’s Preventing Emerging Pathogenic Threats, or PREEMPT program was announced in April PREEMPT focuses specifically on animal reservoirs of disease, specifically bats.

Duke is a key partner of DARPA’s Pandemic Prevention Platform (P3) program. The first step of the Duke/DARPA program involves the discovery of potentially threatening viruses and “develop[ing] methods to support viral propagation, so that virus can be used for downstream studies.”

Duke University is jointly partnered with China’s Wuhan University, which resulted in the opening of the China-based Duke Kunshan University (DKU) in 2018. Notably, China’s Wuhan University includes a multi-lab Institute of Medical Virology that has worked closely with the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases since the 1980s. Probably thats what gave Dean Koontz his idea for a novel centered around the Wuhan-400 virus.

2018 DARPA spent $10 million on one project “to unravel the complex causes of bat-borne viruses that have recently made the jump to humans.

2018 Shi Zhengli publishes a study reporting the discovery of 89 new “novel bat coronavirus” strains that use the same receptor as the coronavirus known as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS). That study was jointly funded by the Chinese government’s Ministry of Science and Technology, USAID and the U.S. National Institute of Health

2019-A study that discovered still more new strains of “novel bat coronavirus” . Titled “Discovery and Characterization of Novel Bat Coronavirus Lineages from Kazakhstan.The study was entirely funded by the U.S. Department of Defense, specifically the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) as part of a project investigating coronaviruses similar to MERS.
Some of the study’s authors are affiliated with Duke University.


July 18, 2019 .The CDC sent a cease and desist order to USAMRIID concerning the Fort Detrick laboratory. Partially reopens in November with embedded CDC researchers. Nice cover story.

September 20, 2019 - ID2020 and partners launch program to provide digital ID with vaccines

October 18, 2019 Bill Gates funded study of Event 201 at Hopkins University simulating a pandemic eerily similar to Wuhan Virus. Attended by George Gao of China CDC

October 2019. Italy raised $7 billion on Wednesday with its first U.S. dollar bond in nearly a decade, a move that helps to diversify funding sources for the world's third-biggest public debtor and gives the US a piece of the pie if they default.


November 7, 2019 -Bill Gates predicted a coronavirus-style pandemic would sweep the population in a Netflix documentary , in episode titled Next Pandemic. In the episode, titled The Next Pandemic, producers visit a wet market in Lianghua, China, where animals are killed and their meat is sold in the same place. Bit of Preprogramming there me thinks

November 17, 2019 -Retrospective studies point to this date when the first COVID-19 patient was treated in Wuhan

November 20 2019 . A patent is approved related to coronavirus vaccines is owned by Pirbright Institute (formerly the Institute for Animal Health) which is partially owned or funded by the Gates foundation.


Jan 3, 2020- After Wuhan Public Security investigation and detention of eight doctors who posted on social media about the virus and were accused of spreading “illegal and false” information, the eight were made to sign a Letter saying that they had “severely disrupted social order.” State media followed this up with reminders from the police that it would pursue anyone else who spread false rumors. 

Dr. Li’s subsequent death generated 800 million comments on Weibo by midnight and over 80,000 Chinese have been infected to date (SARS killed 800 people).

January 11, 2020-china publicly releases gene sequences for new coronaviruses. Inovio’s COVID-19 vaccine, INO-4800, was developed in just 3 hours once the COVID-19 sequence was deposited in data banks for public access

January 13, 2020 Researchers at Moderna and the NIH choose sequence for an mRNA vaccine and began to mobilize toward clinical manufacture.

January 13,2020 Former CDC director Julie L. Gerberding sold 102,000 shares of Mercks stock (she is EVP) . The stock was sold at an average price of $90 for a total transaction of $9,119,000

January 15, 2020 China and US sign trade deal

January 18, 2020 -After 16 consecutive days of no new cases being announced new cases explode as China changes diagnostic criteria

January 22, 2020- Davos 2020 held.

January 23, 2030 -Wuhan locked down and quarantined. Other cities and provinces follow the next days when New Year holidays begin. Millions were able to travel before the quarantine

January 23, 2020. The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) unveiled funding for early-stage vaccine programs. 

Moderna disclosed that it’s working with federal researchers on a candidate, and now it'll have financial backing from CEPI. 

Pennsylvania-based Inovio Pharmaceuticals scored $9 million in funding for its own program, and CEPI is further expanding a partnership with the University of Queensland.

The University of Queensland is also receiving CEPI funds has ties to DARPA and extensive connections to Chinese Universities including Wuhan Institute of Technology. Backdoor to China?


Moderna’s mRNA treatments, including its mRNA vaccines, were largely developed using a $25 million grant from DARPA and it often touts is strategic alliance with DARPA in press releases.

Separately, the CEPI grant will cover Inovio's development costs through phase 1 for the biotech's candidate, dubbed INO-4800. The vaccine is based on Inovio’s DNA medicine platform. In 2018, CEPI awarded Inovio up to $56 million over five years for its work on Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and Lassa fever vaccine candidates.  

Inovio was involved in the Zika outbreak response as well and reached human testing with its vaccine candidate in just seven months, but has yet to take a product through to an approval. Moderna doesn't have any approved drugs or vaccines, either.

Inovio was also recently awarded over $8 million from the U.S. military to develop a small, portable intradermal device for delivering DNA vaccines jointly developed by Inovio and USAMRIID.

Inovio’s MERS vaccine program began in 2018 in partnership with CEPI in a deal worth $56 million. The program is partnered with U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) and the NIH, among others.

Inovio’s also collaborated with the U.S. military on Ebola and Marburg which were also part of an “active biodefense program” and has “garnered multiple grants from the Department of Defense, Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), and other government agencies.”

Inovio Pharmaceuticals has direct access to the Chinese pharmaceutical market through its partnership with China’s ApolloBio Corp., which currently has an exclusive license to sell Inovio-made DNA immunotherapy products to Chinese customers.

On January 23, 2020 the Shi Zhengli team published an article on bioRxiv preprinted version of the platform titled, “A pneumonia outbreak associated with a new coronavirus of probable bat origin.” The report proposed that the new Wuhan Coronavirus was derived from bats.

January 24, 2020 Netflix releases Pandemic docu-series, an eerily timed documentary about pandemics, and obviously production began well before the Wuhan pandemic. As theaters and Cinemas plan to close , and sports entertainment is ended, Netflix should experience a boon in business as people hide in their caves and turn to streaming on Smart TV’s.

January 23, 2020- A report from HK Reuters reports President Xi Jinping is enlisting technology giants including $474 billion Tencent and insurance group Ping An to develop an algorithm that can predict the transmission of influenza and other infectious diseases with 90%-plus accuracy. Elsewhere, the likes of $50 billion video-surveillance specialist, Hikvision, are helping Beijing develop high-tech, digitally-connected surveillance urban areas.

More than 500 so-called smart cities are already being built across China, according to government figures, equipped with sensors, cameras, and other gadgets that can crunch data on everything from traffic and pollution, to public health and security. That market could top 103 billion yuan ($15 billion) in revenue by 2023, according to research commissioned by facial-recognition startup Megvii. 

The tech will be deployed to detect unusual numbers of feverish people in train stations, while simultaneously cross-referencing healthcare history based on facial recognition and other identification means, travel records and weather patterns.

On Jan 27th, Shi Zhengli submitted the registration information of RaTG13 bat virus referred to in her Jan 23 preprint article, showing that the virus was isolated from the feces of Yunnan horseshoe bats (chrysanthemum bat) as early as July 24, 2013. It was never mentioned in any of her previous papers.

On January 28 it was reported the US has charged a Harvard professor and two Chinese researchers based in Boston with assisting the Chinese government. Harvard department chair Charles Lieber is accused of lying about his connections, while the researchers were charged with being foreign agents.

The Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, received more than $15m (£11.5m) in grants from the US National Institute of Health and the US Department of Defence.


January 28 -AbCellera Biologics Inc. has started a program to discover mAbs as potential treatments for patients infected with the 2019-nCoV
.The work is being undertaken via a contract the Defense Advanced Projects Research Agency (DARPA) awarded to AbCellera in 2018 to lead the development of the Pandemic Prevention Platform (P3) program, a rapid response platform against pandemic viral threats.

Jan 31, 2020 -Trump declares US-China travel ban


Feb 14, Pandemic Prevention Platform - or P3 set up 2 years ago and funded by the Defense Advanced Research Agency - Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, announced plans to respond rapidly to COVID-19 until a vaccine is developed. The first part of the plan is to identify antibodies and get antibodies from people who've been infected with COVID-19 and recovered. The second part is to develop a drug that can be used based on these antibodies. They plan to try and just take the genetic material that codes for these antibodies and put that into people and alter their DNA so as to let the people's own cells make the antibody. It's only been tested in tens of patients, so its experimental.
They may have something ready in as soon as 90 days.

Altering a populations DNA with a fast tracked (untested) treatment .What could go wrong. LOL. Depopulation here we come.

Feb 19, 2020- The Lancet published an unprecedented “correspondence” from twenty-seven (27) co-authors who condemned “conspiracy theories” related to the outbreak. (3)


The Lancet is financed by RELX’s foremost investor, Capital Research and Management Company. This is a wholly-owned subsidiary of The Capital Group Companies, Inc., which ranks among the world’s oldest and largest investment management organizations, with over $2 trillion in assets under management. The company is owned by some of the world largest companies based in the U.S., Europe and Asia, each heavily invested in healthcare and disease response.

Feb 24, 2020 Moderna began shipping vials from a plant in Norwood, Mass., to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, in Bethesda, Md., for a planned clinical trial to test its safety.

Feb 26, 2020 - SCMP reports Tencent teams up with ‘Sars hero’ Zhong Nanshan on AI, big data lab to combat coronavirus and predict outbreaks through the use of big data and artificial intelligence.

March 10, 2020 -Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute is asking for volunteers to participate in a NIAID funded study that will test an "investigational vaccine" for SARS-CoV-2, which is the virus that causes COVID-19. The experimental vaccine is an mRNA nucleic acid vaccine, meaning it is made up of a segment of mRNA rather than the whole virus.

Their plan is to enroll 45 people between 18 and 55, who will get two shots of Moderna’s investigational vaccine, about a month apart. Why not enroll older people who are most seriously affected and most likely to be vaccinated (unless vaccines are mandated).

March 11, 2020 WHO declares COVID-19 a global pandemic . WHO is now receiving more than half of its yearly budget from private sources .
Bill Gates has given more than one billion dollars to the WHO. Private funding of WHO has brought WHO much closer to the pharmaceutical industry. It is a political organization. Its director is not a scientist. Pandemic Bond investors weep.

March 11- Trump declares US-Europe travel ban (ex UK). Basically requiring Europeans to have to go through UK to enter US . That should help UK with Trade negotiations with EU.

March 13, 2020. Trump declares national emergency. Under regulations revised and reissued by Obama just before Trump entered office, the government can stop and seize any plane, train or automobile to stymie the spread of contagious disease. Some even interpret the statute as meaning a president could deploy the military to cordon off a city or state. He can detain individuals suspected as being a risk to transmit disease

March 15-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's trial in three corruption cases has been postponed by over two months, a district court announced on Sunday as he suspends all court activities. Announces digital surveillance of citizens to halt spread of disease. He offers Gantz in a desperate bid to remain Prime Minister two options to break the political deadlock in Israel: joining a six-month emergency government with Netanyahu at the head, or a unity government that would allow Netanyahu to serve as prime minister for two more years before Gantz takes over. Covid-19 a dream come true for Bibi.

March 16- US succumbs to dumb virus. 2020. For aliens enroute to Earth hoping to meet intelligent life and likely monitoring communications, so sorry you have made the long trip for nothing. As you can see there is no longer any intelligent life here on Earth, must be a virus or something. Go home ET, lest you get infected as well.

Cia

Mark Wax,
I agree. Those volunteering to test the vaccine are heroes. I admire them and hope they have no reason to regret it. I don’t know the age of your vaccine-injured child, but children under ten aren’t getting severe cases. Only a small number of teens and twenty-somethings are. The numbers going up gradually until they reach sixty. We won’t get the vaccine either, but I think there is at least a chance that they will develop a fairly good product that will be beneficial for many. And then we would be glad to profit from the herd immunity.

david m burd

Somehow, my prior implication of ribavirin causing SARS deaths had text that was left off my previous comment; Here is the correction:

"The invention of a new corona-vaccine is not new; previous attempts never came to fruition, in part as there was no genuine market, particularly as 2002-2003 SARS mortality quickly fell to zero when extremely toxic antiviral drugs such as ribavirin (strong dosing among the 800 total SARS deaths as documented in many Journal Papers back then), but then ceased when ribavirin therapy was instantly withdrawn."

Bottom Line: Lethal treatment drugs are THE culprit in such as blamed on a so-called new coronavirus.

Pogo

When John Stone made the observation (in the BMJ Rapid Responses I think) that the deaths were almost exclusively associated with co-morbidity, it awakened a distant memory of a retired Irish missionary talking about how ‘harvester diseases’ would — from time to time — sweep through the district and mercifully end the long suffering of the very sick and infirm. The faint memory was an itch I had to scratch and find its better known as the ‘harvesting effect’ or ‘mortality displacement’. This is hardly any comfort to consider for those who will lose loved ones. Yet if this so with with Corona, then we should have a equal drop below the average mortality rate, after the current pandemic is over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortality_displacement

Cia

I don’t think novel coronavirus is from nowhere. Look at the article at Scientific American about the Bat Woman. There are fifty thousand coronaviruses in bats. If you a human has close contact with the bat, bat poop, or one of the animal vectors the virus spreads to from bats, then it has often happened that the virus makes the species leap, and once another leap is made, which has often occurred naturally historically, which allows person to person transmission, then you can get an epidemic/ pandemic. If it is extremely virulent, it dies out quickly. Just medium virulent, and you can get what is happening now.

Cia

I just googled the situation in Spain, found articles at the site of La Vanguardia. Peak Prosperity had said that Spain had been lackadaisical, not taking this seriously. Whether or not that is true, they’re taking it seriously now. Ford is shutting down operations at its auto plants in Spain. Catalunya has requested a total lockdown, but the PM, Pedro Sanchez, has refused. I think it’s the same everywhere: do you take measures already proven to flatten the curve, or complete lockdown even better, and save lives at the possible cost of crippling the economy for decades, or do you wait, protect the economy, hope it blows over soon, or hope it only affects old people, considered expendable by many?

I would say that it looks like Italy and Spain are object lessons for everyone else. This is unprecedented, but if protecting your economy results in millions of deaths (as it is very possible that it will), then that also has severe effects on your economy. Also true that I read an article in Horizon when I was a teenager about how the death of a third to a half of Europeans in the Black Death was ultimately immensely beneficial for the economies of medieval Europe. But I hope it won’t come to that.

Sweden has already just thrown up its hands and is issuing guidelines on who to not treat and let die.

I think we’ve seen enough to see that the best course is total lockdown. For how long, I don’t know. I hope the virus becomes attenuated quickly. It took two years for the Spanish flu, I think two years for the worst of the bubonic plague, 1348-50?, I’ll look it up, maybe longer, although it never did disappear entirely.

Cia

Debbie,

The problem is that no one knows what’s going to happen. Many places have shown that if you act to prevent a catastrophe that hasn’t happened yet, you prevent it from happening, or at least greatly soften the impact. If you don’t, in many cases the catastrophe happens.

If doctors refused to do anything unless it were guaranteed to have no ill effects of any sort, they wouldn’t be able to do anything, ever. And I say that being very distrustful of doctors, we NEVER go to a doctor, but I can think of many possible events in which we would, and then we’d have to inform ourselves as to risks and benefits and, whatever we chose, accept the risks inherent in our choice.

I saw that many U.K. supermarkets are opening an hour early for seniors sand the handicapped. And there are options for home delivery for the elderly. A bill in the US is being considered to delay tax day from April to July 15. That would be a relief for us (hopefully). One of my senators, Josh Hawley, has proposed a bill to GIVE all Americans below a generous threshold a thousand dollars a month, no strings attached, in this crisis.

Sally Rubin

Bob Moffit, I live in one of the cities with large homeless encampments. Generally, they are not populated with immigrants. They are populated with mostly white people with mental illnesses or some people simply down on their luck. But, these are not "refugee camps." And, yes, good question about the risk-factor. I don't have any statistics about that yet. But, I did want to clear up the misconception that these camps are populated by people from other countries. They aren't.

Cia

I think we should be aware that Spain seems to be moving into Italy’s position. 1,467 new cases diagnosed since yesterday with 167 new deaths from coronavirus since yesterday. I don’t know anything more about their situation at this time. I hope that homeopaths who believe in nosodes (I’m not a homeopath, but I do) are testing the coronavirus nosode now. We’ve taken it, I think we’ll take it on the first of each month for the foreseeable future, and see whether or not it protects us. I hope they’re also keeping records on gelsemium. People like us, who would not take a vaccine, are ideal test groups.

Pam

@Bob Moffit.....that's a very good question!

This is a good time to revisit the following article, especially the video clip of the 60 Minutes coverage of the 1976 Swine flu fraud. Of course, that was prior to the media being thoroughly BOUGHT!

http://visionlaunch.com/how-the-cdc-fda-and-who-lost-the-trust-of-vaccine-skeptics/

Cia

I read an article in the Scientific American about a Chinese scientist called Shi Zhengli who spent years crawling in caves collecting bat samples. Apparently certain bats only carry coronavirus seasonally. Although she also said that they carry fifty thousand other types of coronavirus which haven’t come to public notice yet. It’s an interesting article, but Shi says the bottom line is that humans should avoid contact with bats and common vectors like rodents, badgers, and nonhuman apes (as well as pangolins, civet cats, and dromedaries).

I also am for vaccine choice. We’ll just have to wait and see how it goes for vaccine effectiveness and safety.

The supermarket yesterday was packed more than I had ever seen. We were the only ones with mask and gloves. All the many shelves usually packed with bread were empty, except for a few unusual types like chia bread. Well, C found one loaf of white bread pushed all the way to the back of a lower shelf. No whole-grain, and no gluten-free. No cucumbers. No organic chicken. No salad kits. No 7-Up to make a spring equinox recipe. Everyone preparing to shelter in place.

I got an email last night that ACT was cancelling it’s (it’s, I told it, no apostrophe, damn, it’s already added one) programs for the next two weeks, probably encouraged by our masks and bad tidings from the outer world.

I saw a video of people in China dancing at the window of their high rise apartment where they were quarantined. The neighbors across the street saw them and started a dance competition to see who excelled in dance moves. Now they’re friends in real life.

Americans as a group are good, kind people. It’s certain that a few months from now we’ll be reading about how many individuals connected and helped one another. But we live in the suburbs: I haven’t heard a car go by all morning. No one would see us if we were to dance in the window. But we can connect on the phone and on Skype, Whattsapp, FaceTime. I’m impressed by how many are self-quarantining even though it’s not required in most places yet. Only five diagnosed cases in Missouri so far.

I saw a chart last night on the latest Peak Prosperity video, comparing two areas of Italy. Last month the island of Bari went on strict lockdown even though there weren’t any diagnosed cases yet. Another area, I’ve forgotten what it was, didn’t. Now Bari has a very flattened curve while the other one has exploded.

Mark Wax

It is a war. ANYONE who fights is a hero. The trouble has always been that those who seek money and power in politics have been parasites. Most of the American people are capable of heroic action. I applaud the actions of Ms Haller. I speak as a parent of a vaccine injured child who is at high risk to perish to the virus. Still I take solace.
"Whoever saves one life saves the world entire.”- Talmud

John Stone

David

Very Important . NHS are putting out a notice that people should not dose coronavirus with Ibuprofen, Naproxen, Voltarol and other NSAIDS because they seem to be tipping young people in previously good health into serious complications - Tylenol is apparently OK.

Debbie Barry

it is time for a chat. First do no Harm. Harm would include tyrannical actions that are not fully justified.

David m burd

The invention of a new corona-vaccine is not new; previous attempts never came to fruition, in part as there was no genuine market, particularly as 2002-2003 SARS mortality quickly fell to zero when extremely toxic antiviral drugs such as ribavirin (strong dosing among the 800 total SARS deaths as documented in many Journal Papers back then).

Everybody should remember a most important fact: About 80 Americans were quaranteed back in 2003 mainly because they (or their close relatives) had just returned from SE Asia, some having mild respiratory symptoms. None of them were dosed with ribavirin, and within weeks all went home in good health.

Canada, however, hospitalized about 100 arrivals from SE Asia with similar respiratory symptoms, and then administered strong dosing with ribavirin, with 35 total patients quickly dying as their red blood cells were destroyed by ribavirin's cytotoxic effects. When Canada issued an Emergency Bulletin to cease ribavirin therapy. So-called SARS deaths then dropped to zero.

No other countries outside SE Asia employed ribavirin, the result being a single "SARS" death in Europe, and a single SARS death in South Africa. The rest of the world zero.

John Stone's recent revelation here documents but TWO elderly deaths in Italy actually have a tenuous connection to this present corona strain. Yet this Worldwide panic marches on, stoked and fueled by completely ignorant news empires.

THE last thing needed is a vaccine that in truth is not needed, and like all vaccines will bring any array of unforseen iatrogenic toxicities and deaths. There is no genuine proof today's corona variation causes more than the usual amount of wintertime illnesses and pneumonias (yes, pneumonias are lethal, but no proof that corona- pneumonia has risen above its norm these last 20 years ).

Bob Moffit

Just curious .. what measures are being asked of the squalid homeless camps in many major US cities .. such as .. NY, San Fran and Seattle .. where THOUSANDS of homeless are living in cardboard boxes or tents .. have been using public streets and parks as public toilets .. where spreading communicable diseases are a continuing increasing problem?

Maybe it is time political leaders in those cities … most proudly declared SANCTUARY cities where enforcement of immigration laws are strictly IGNORED .. were declared SANITARY cities instead .. where politicians would begin enforcing PUBLIC HEALTH LAWS .. which prohibit urinating and defecating on public streets and in public parks are enforced?

Odd I haven't heard of any serious outbreak of Covid virus among this particularly vulnerable group of homeless encampments .. where washing one's hands often and social spacing are not high priorities? Odd I also haven't heard any governor, mayor or media including these highly .. densely populated .. homeless encampments identified as potential risks for spreading Covid as are our schools, sports venues, entertainment, religious gatherings? Just curious?

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