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Judge to Hear Oral Argument on the Repeal of theReligious Exemption to Vaccination for New York Children

CHD logoJudge to Hear Oral Argument on the Repeal of the
Religious Exemption to Vaccination for New York Children

After the Wed., Aug. 14th, 10: 00 a.m. hearing, Attorneys Michael H. Sussman and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman of Children’s Health Defense, will answer questions on the Albany County, NY Courthouse steps, 16 Eagle Street.
Albany, NY—On July 10, attorneys Sussman and Kennedy filed a lawsuit in New York State (NYS) Supreme Court challenging the constitutionality of the legislature’s repeal of the religious exemption to vaccination. Suing on behalf of 55 NYS families who held lawful religious exemptions, Sussman and Kennedy requested that the court enjoin the repeal temporarily, preliminarily and permanently.

The Honorable Denise Hartman, Supreme Court judge, will hear oral argument Wednesday, August 14th. With school only three weeks away, plaintiffs present their case that on June 13, 2019, NYS halted more than fifty years of lawful religious exemptions from vaccination for those with genuine and sincerely-held religious beliefs. The law, which became effective immediately, threw more than 26,000 NYS families into chaos, barring their children from school and daycare. A representative group of affected families, from different regions and diverse faiths, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam, challenged the repeal as constitutionally defective and unlawful. They seek judicial intervention to enjoin the repeal and permit their children back to school and camp throughout the state. The ruling will not only affect the 55 plaintiffs but the thousands of other similarly situated families.

Since 1963, New York has provided religious exemptions to vaccination. Yet without a single public hearing, and at the very end of the legislative session, the Assembly, Senate and Governor rushed through the repeal bill in one day with expressions of overt hostility towards those holding religious beliefs against vaccination. Many families will attend the hearing and press briefing that follows on the court house steps.

In an earlier statement, Kennedy, Chief Legal Counsel for Children’s Health Defense, stated: “Religious rights are fundamental. It is unconstitutional for the state to deprive people of such important rights when religious animus has played a key role. To enact such harsh legislation without any legislative fact-finding, and with the legislators’ open display of prejudice towards religious beliefs different than their own, is simply un-American; it is essential that we fight this.”
go to Childrenshealthdefense.org for court docs



Michael; Eindeker pushes my buttons too.

I am pretty sure, that Eindeker is an agnostic. That is some one that believes in only what they see; a person who believes that the existence, or nature of God cannot be proven; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God. Basically an unsure, but almost sure atheist.

He does however believe in human kind especially those in leadership roles, and in authority. Boy! has he put is faith on the wrong horse.

He has no empathy, none for what others might have seen with their own eyes, and have been through because only his eyes, only his thoughts, only his experiences counts. He has no spiritualism about him, no true love of his fellow man, but respect for those in authority.

For Eindeker; You ask if I believed in blood transfusions. For whom? Do you mean for some one about to bleed to death, on death's door? Or for anyone, for any reason like blood doping of an athlete?

Do you believe blood doping is okay other than just cheating, or do you wonder what health consequences on down the line that athlete might have? There is a difference don't you think?

You could have also asked me about immunoglobin treatments too, what I thought about what the Bible said about that. IgG or immunoglobin is were they take tens of thousands of different blood donors and centrifuge their blood all down, and get out IgG, then give it by IV to kids with Kawaskis disease, or people that have no immune system.

Kawaskis disease is what my daughter had after her DPT vaccine, it is were every single small blood Capillaries are inflamed, including the heart, the eyes, the brain, the fingers, the toes -everything. The capillary is the site of internal or cellular respiration and is responsible for the utilization of oxygen by the tissue and the transporting of carbon dioxide as waste to the veins for elimination by the lungs. Yeah, a real chance, of death , or disability; that. Yeah, I would have allowed IgG cause health was already gone, taken from her by a vaccine. A two year old, a cute two year old.

So like I said that last book in the Bible that talks about the mark of the beast on people's forehead, and hand and without it a person can't buy or sell seems pretty much what a vaccine is, and becoming.


Grace Green

Again, your comments are SO inappropriate for people on this thread. I'm referring to your assumption that everyone believes in pharmaceutical treatments for diabetes, heart disease, and also anaesthetics. Well, diabetes and heart disease are both caused by poor diet and lifestyle, and can even be reversed by rectifying those problems. And many people like me who have been mercury poisoned become allergic to local aneasthetics. I have had to have dental treatment without LA and have found it to be more of a problem for the dentist than for me. There are alternative medical practices which can avoid so much illness, but of course, drug-pushers don't want people not to be ill, do they?


Eindeker--as a parent who knows vaccine injury, you push my buttons, really push my buttons. Is that your intention to provide your set of facts and deny the reality that vaccinations injure and kill? If Eindeker were the Pope, it would be your religion that one must believe---or else? Would it be the religion of science? Where are you going Eindeker with your comments?

You said "spurious grounds as “religious belief”? In my neck of the woods, "religion" was defined for the purposes of immunization--" any system of beliefs, principles or ethical values." No permission from God, the Torah, Koran, a rabbi or priest needed. No permission from Pope Eindeker required.

My "system of beliefs" does not include vaccine injury or death. It doesn't include injecting mercury or aluminum into anyone. My system of beliefs includes that I will make mistakes and try to inform myself so that I can make informed decisions on as many matters whether elections or what it takes to be healthy.

I just want healthy children, a doctor I can trust, a government that is isn't in bed with industry and a good cup of coffee or beer with friends.

My "belief"--do unto others as you would have do unto you. I try my best to live that way.

What does Eindeker want and believe ?


Angus (Pharma for prison, except maybe for diabetic drugs or heart drugs or anaesthetics or etc etc)
The ranks are swelling with people just like me.! until Angus it suddenly gets serious when they have a very quick change of mind: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22048635
The queues at Morriston Hospital started a full hour before the clinics were due to begin, with every parent anxious to make sure their child did not miss out.....About 1,200 people have received vaccinations against measles at four emergency clinics for the MMR jab held in hospitals across south Wales. Health officials said demand for the vaccine was 50% higher than anticipated at the hospital drop-in sessions.
Benedetta I would not question your religious belief, I'm more of a "flying spaghetti monster" person myself https://www.richarddawkins.net/ However one question if you object to human cells being injected where exactly do you sit on blood transfusions??? There are millions and millions of intact cells in a blood transfusion, as opposed to a few tiny fragments in a vaccine....


And Eindeker;

There are not just verses but whole books in the Bible that focuses on health such as Leviticus, and Deuteronomy . Again and again through out the Bible it says that your body is a temple for the holy spirit, and many suggestions of how to care for it. The Bible has to speak in symbolic ways because it has had to speak to generations of people over centuries; stretching into millenniums, and since it is speaking to people with different levels of knowledge it does not go into scientific reasons.

It warns about not eating meat of an animal that has not been drained of blood first? What does our modern minds know about that now?

It warns that we should not eat meat from animals that up and die on their own? Modern understanding now?

We now know, in this modern time, that there are scientific reasons of why rabbits, and other such animals that did not have a cloven hoof, and chews it cud were considered unclean. The scientific reason was all about parasites, especially trichinosis, and food not being thoroughly cooked.

The book warns about eating fat around the kidneys, the stomach, and the liver of an animal, we might can guess that the reasons are probably toxins, and microbes that the animal has filtered through those organs, and settle close to that organ in the fat.

There is even something in the Bible that says you should not cook a young animal in it own mother's milk. If there is such a thing as prions, we still do not really have that knowledge yet. Cannibalism is not just for humans, as we found out the hard way when it came to feeding cattle, and all that mad cow disease, stuff. .

It does warn about tattoos too. God knew there were probably toxins and microbes that could by pass the stomach and tried to warn about that. hat is getting pretty close to putting the toxins of vaccines into our bodies.

And if we can get into that much trouble consuming food through the stomach, what kind of trouble can we get into by by-passing the stomach, and injecting all the toxins that some pharmakon human whose sole job is to arouse our immune system , can think up?


You asked about what the Bible said about the "OTHER" vaccines beside the measles, and human cells/ cannibalism. So ya have to give on that one. Yes, you did.

So you are moving the bar a little higher. Okay.

Well; I did mention that last book of the Bible; Revelations thingy about the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead/buying and selling . Don't forget that one.

But that did not seem to even get your attention so let us consider that my son had brain swelling only a few hours after the DPT vaccine that caused him to lose his ability to walk for several months, ruined his fine motor skills, and something is missing mentally. He will never be able to reach his full potential.

So I think this verse will do: Matthew 18:6 - If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Eindecker; Why do you care what the Bible says about vaccines? If I found a verse that said "vaccines" would you really set up and pay attention? I would guess it is a Nope, cause you got your religion, and it Plotkin's Bible on Immunology. What you are wanting is to use your superior intellect against the superstitious masses, by using the very thing the fools believe in against them.

But it is you that don't understand the richness and the depth of the Bible. Best of all it speaks in symbolism.

The story of Genesis of Adam and Eve; Cain and Abel were never truly appreciated until we slowly became aware of just what kind of transformation humans experienced as they changed their way of life, as they went from hunter/gathers to more agriculture/ settlements. The language, and the emotions we experience when we read an earth science text book, or biology book, or the Bible maybe different, but the meanings in the end are all the same.

Better a millstone around the neck and thrown in the deepest ocean than to hurt a child.

Angus Files


Thanks to nice sarcastic people like you and the rest of the pharma minions pushing unsafe vaccines and meds on the naive populations you have created people like me.I`m all your own creation.Prior to my son being vaccine damaged the most I knew about heavy metals was Meat Loaf and ZZ Top. As for immunity from vaccines,I believed every hook line and sinker OFFIT, we swallowed the lot.Not now.
Even the Police dont care these days looking for missing vulnerable people but below we have the halitosis kid`s dog breath Deers unfortunate Doppelgänger telling us all about how they cant be bothered looking (wonder if he has the same dog breath)Who cares about life killing vaccines Eindecker who cares? The ranks are swelling with people just like me.!Funny ?no? I mean there must be a rise in missing persons why would that be? of course nothing to do with people loosing their minds via vaccines and meds..course not silly me! mercury heavy metals are not linked to anything they are whiter than sliced sun blessed bread you would have us believe.

Police shake-up over missing person cases(funny no?)


Pharma For Prison



Bodily integrity is a core tenet of every spiritual practice.
The Vatican may approve of vaccination in principle, but the devil is in the details.
Would the Vatican approve of injecting glyphosate, aluminum or mercury?
I think not.
Would religious leaders encourage its followers to inject substances that can result in permanent brain and neurological damage?
I think not.
I know of no religion that would knowingly and deliberately put such a low value on human life.
The damage to religious practice is inherent in vaccination mandates, as the Vatican and other religious leaders, like the manufacturers and those who administer vaccines, do not stand behind these products in any respect.

Grace Green

The irony of your comment that those who refuse vaccines should be refused health care for that condition, is that I have been refused any treatment on the NHS because of having M.E./autism caused by vaccines, and I'm sure many here will say the same has happened to them or their autistic children. You have no idea what the experience of vaccine-induced illness is like, and you are not willing to listen to those who are trying to tell you. In short, you're behaving just like an NHS employee!



I think you have to inform people and then let them decide. No, I don't think that parents who refuse one or more vaccinations should be liable for damages should the disease occur. They (we) correctly think that the vaccines often cause severe injury, even death, so there should be no penalty for being unwilling to take the risk. How can you force someone to risk brain damage in order to prevent someone else from incurring brain damage? I looked up the flight attendant who died in Israel when she got measles: she developed encephalitis back in March, and was hospitalized since then. It was, as John said, tragic. All adults must be aware that measles is often more dangerous in adults than in children, and take appropriate action, which might mean taking the vaccine if they are afraid of catching the disease. I'm glad I had natural measles at six and don't have to worry about it, but I recognize that it is a risk for many adults.

susan welch

Eindecker. You know as well as I do that John's comments are always circumspect. Are you criticising him for any comment you do not approve of, whether he wrote it or not?

Also, I ask you again: will you please address the issue of vaccine injury? You repeatedly 'bang on' about permanent disability/death from measles and never, ever mention the same result from the vaccine.

Whether you want to admit it or not, it is a fact that there are far more injuries/deaths from vaccines than there were from childhood diseases before the vaccines were introduced. I am, of course, speaking of the western world.


Dear Eindecker " Jimmy One Wing " while your skill knowledge and experience in microbiology is appreciated and noted, your training deficiency and resulting attitude, sticks out like a sore thumb ma dear wee chapppie !
The Vaccine Song youtube
Runrig The Stamping Ground Youtube
As Eddie Turnbull Football Manager used to tell us over high tea at aunty Morag's
"Aye tell them to hold that last result . because their ball is up on the slates , so their game's a bogie !"
The Best ever rendition of Sushine on Leith ever You tube
Apparently this personality type gets described as a genetic throwback ?If they want a competitive advantage , they are out of luck, totally!.


“As usual you sarcasm does you no credit.” Really John, more so than all the posts on here comparing doctors and scientists to the Nazi’s and labelling them as killers and murderers? How do you rate the tag line “Pharma for Prison”? Anyway, that’s your view and you are entitled to it, but referring to your claim “is that vaccine immunity is temporary”, what does “temporary” mean & for which vaccines: 10, 20 30 years or 2 weeks, or as some here would have you believe, that they don’t work at all? much of the adult vaccinated population will be walking around with diminished or no immunity if this were the case we would be seeing outbreaks of measles in the adult population which is clearly not the case, Fig 1 https://www.vaccinestoday.eu/stories/france-measles-outbreak-babies-hit-hardest/
The fact is undeniable that with good levels of vaccine coverage with 2 doses of MMR measles is effectively eliminated, it is in hot spots of vaccination resistant populations that measles, and other VPDs. As you say the pre-vaccination era measles infection may have given you life long immunity but the trade off is a 1 in 3-4000 chance of dying, a 1 in a few hundred chance of being left with a permanent disability plus the hideous long term effect of SSPE. So many posters here trot out “oh I had measles as a kid, we all did, few days off colour and that was it” well unfortunately the latest information on measles in the US just reinforces yet again the hard statistics: https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html
From January 1 to August 8, 2019, 1,182** individual cases of measles have been confirmed in 30 states. This is the greatest number of cases reported in the U.S. since 1992 and since measles was declared eliminated in 2000.
• Measles can cause serious complications. As of August 8, 2019, 124 of the people who got measles this year were hospitalized, and 64 reported having complications, including pneumonia and encephalitis.
• The majority of cases are among people who were not vaccinated against measles.
• More than 75% of the cases this year are linked to outbreaks in New York and New York City. Measles is more likely to spread and cause outbreaks in U.S. communities where groups of people are unvaccinated.
• All measles cases this year have been caused by measles wild-type D8 or B3.
I don’t actually agree with mandatory vaccination, unless there is a clear VPD emergency, but equally, it is only fair that there should be a sanction applied against parents who refuse to vaccinate their children on such spurious grounds as “religious belief”, how about they sign away their subsequent health care rights for any VPD for which they refused immunization, seems a fair trade off to me! For example damages are reduced in road traffic accidents where someone wasn’t wearing a seatbelt, the legal term is “contributory negligence” seems a very comparable situation.
As was shown in the outbreak of measles a few years ago in Wales the odd death or two very quickly persuades “anti-vaxxers” to get their vaccines & cut short the outbreak, it’s just a shame someone had to die.
Benedetta: so what about all the other vaccines than measles that DON’T use tissue cultures, I assume you’re OK with them ?


It is shameful that American parents can't refuse toxic vaccinations for their children based purely on their proven toxicity, leading to thousands of vaccine-induced deaths in the US (and millions in the world). Religious/philosophical exemptions are just a substitute for essential medical reasons. All children have a human right NOT to be maimed or killed by chemicals injected to them by force for profits of pharma cartels.

Jeanne J


My older sister, had measles, mumps, German measles, and chicken pox as a child. By the way, it clearly didn't affect her functioning, as she was an assistant principal. I had mumps and chicken pox. Interestingly enough, as an adult, I was tested for my titer levels of German measles, and discovered they were sufficient for full immunity, simply being exposed to it, after having the childhood diseases I was exposed to. Amazing how well our God-given immune system works. Follow God's laws of sanitation (human waste outside of your living area), wash your body/hands when you have come in contact with things that don't sustain life, eat well prepared meats, eat things grown as they are as meat to us, walk in the light (get healthy sunlight exposure) and so much more. Our immunity is life-long. Perhaps you didn't understand that the Bible gives you strategies to sustain health, as well as cautions you about things that preclude health.

Grace Green

If vaccinations are not mentioned in the Jewish, Christian or Muslim scriptures surely that means that there is no religious obligation to avail oneself of them. Believers live their lives according to what their religion tells them to do, and no-one can follow two masters. Ancient religions obviously could not make pronouncements on things which had not yet been invented, so the individual believer has to interpret the writings and apply the general principals to new problems. Even the Catholic church does not force people to follow its teachings, and many of its members have been using contraception since it's been available. Everything including fighting wars comes down to conscience, which is why we have the right of conscientious objection. Why should that not also apply to health decisions?


Pharmakia” is translated into our English Bible as either “witchcraft” or “sorceries”. Yeah, the Bible was not very charitable toward Pharmakia.


Yeah the BIBLE mentioned it.
It was just not called vaccines.

The last book of the Bible has a verse about the mark of the beast placed on the hand or forehead hmmm or both, and with out it we can neither buy or sell. Hands and forehead means thinking problems and fine motor skills.

There are 20 different verses in the Bible about cannibalism. Injecting aborted human cells in your body would be a form of cannibalism.

John Stone


As usual you sarcasm does you no credit.

Problem, of course, is that vaccine immunity is temporary while disease acquired immunity is for life, so unfortunately much of the adult vaccinated population will be walking around with diminished or no immunity. This is a tragic case but to suggest that the trade-offs are vaccination are always straightforward is simplistic.



Huum I wasn't aware that vaccination was mentioned in the Bible or the Quran or in Jewish scripture ...... in the mean time a perfectly healthy Israeli woman has died of measles, she had received one vaccine for measles as a child, which we now know is not enough to provide life long protection https://www.cbsnews.com/news/el-al-flight-attendant-dies-in-israel-months-after-getting-measles/ and BTW the highest Catholic authorities have said there is no issue with vaccine prepared with tissue culture https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/03/20/vaticans-academy-for-life-encourages-parents-to-vaccinate-children/ but of course some of you guys may know better than the Vatican curia


I doubt the judge will be brave enough to buck the current. I hope she will, though.


I’m at peace with the possibility of homeschooling, although still determined to get this NYS law overturned on principle. My daughter especially has been hounding me about today’s hearing, because she doesn’t want to be homeschooled. All that the “powers that be” are accomplishing is creating a generation of kids that will grow up to hate and distrust them even more than we already do.

Angus Files

Keep doing what you do Bob Moffit inspiration right there! thank you.

Pharma For Prison


Hans Litten

At 52 Jessica I think it still might be useful for you to get the Gardakil vaccine !


“We did not want to be the first in offering young girls for the experiment to see if this vaccine is effective or not,” told The New York Times at the time.

Now, Texas has one of the highest rates of cervical cancer in the nation. According to the Texas Tribune, the CDC and National Cancer Institute revealed that in 2016, the age-adjusted rate of new cervical cancer cases for women in the state was 9.2 per 100,000. Only four other states — New Mexico, Alabama, Florida and Kentucky, had higher rates of the deadly disease.

While the state’s cancer rate can’t be entirely attributed to low vaccination rates, experts agree that the best way to get the high rates under control is to increase the administration of the HPV (human papillomavirus) vaccine. An estimated 99.7% of cervical cancer cases are caused by the HPV virus. Cervical cancer is the fourth most common cancer in women.

During the same year of Rick Perry’s good intentions, Australia rolled out a nationwide vaccination program which offered the HPV vaccine for free to girls at their schools, and later to boys, resulting in 80% of teens being vaccinated against HPV over the next decade. Now, in a stark contrast to Texas, Australia is on track to be the first country to eliminate cervical cancer.

“From the beginning, I think the [Australian] government successfully positioned the advent of HPV vaccination as a wonderful package that had a beneficial effect for the population,” Australian cancer epidemiologist Karen Canfell told the Texas Tribune. “It was celebrated for that reason, and it was a great public health success.”

State Rep. Jessica Farrar (D) says she regrets that Texas missed a golden opportunity.
“Here we are 12 years later, and look where we could’ve been, but because of certain beliefs, we’re suffering from cancers that could have been avoided.”

Bob Moffit

My wife, daughter-in-law, 19 year old non-verbal grandson, his sister … are preparing to drive about 3 1/2 hours .. one way … to attend today's oral arguments against legislative elimination of the "religious exemption" my family has used for about 17 years .. following the "regression" of our beloved grandson following vaccines .. including HEP B .. which our family had no warning or information he would receive within hours of his birth.

Our family has made many trips to Albany over the 17 years since we first realized we could no longer TRUST our public health officials, media and especially .. our elected representatives .. local, state or federal .. as they continue to IGNORE OUR PLEAS TO EXERCISE OUR HUMANITARIAN RIGHT TO INFORMED CONSENT … THE WAR BEING WAGED AGAINST FAMILIES WHO WANT TO DECIDE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR PRECIOUS CHILD'S HEALTH HAS BEEN RELENTLESS .. BUT .. THOUGH MANY BATTLES HAVE BEEN LOST .. THE WAR ITSELF WILL BE WON IN THE END … TRUST ME ON THAT.

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