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New Hampshire Child Didn't Have Measles, But Vaccine Reaction

Mmr20vaccine-468x381Important news from New Hampshire. The MMR vaccine itself is helping to fuel the panic that mandates the MMR vaccine. From NECN News:

New Hampshire Child Didn't Have Measles, But Vaccine Reaction

Additional lab work indicated the child's symptoms were likely due to a vaccine reaction from the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine — also known as MMR.

New Hampshire public health officials say additional testing suggests a child initially diagnosed with measles actually had a rare reaction to a vaccine that resembled a real measles virus infection.

Last week, the Department of Health and Human Services said in a news release the child was diagnosed with measles and may have exposed others to infection at three locations in Keene.

But on Thursday, the department said the public is not currently at risk for measles from the child. It said there is no contagious measles known to be circulating in the community.

Additional lab work indicated the child's symptoms were likely due to a vaccine reaction from the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine — also known as MMR. The child had been vaccinated several days before starting to show symptoms.



Thank you for running this story. It deserves to be read, not disappear into "radio silence" after the health department realized that the vaccinated child had the vaccine version of measles. What interests me is how a child with full blown measles, rash etc, is guaranteed to be "non contagious"? We are told the vaccinated aren't passing the live measles virus on,even though "theoretically it is possible" because they haven't found transmission, but it seems with most vaccine reactions etc, the default is to make sure not to look for it, then state that it isn't there. The health officials seemed really sure there were no measles now; is there any chance they deliberately exposed people to a possibly infectious child, rather than admit the child with this rare reaction might be capable of transmitting the disease?
In the Disney measles outbreak, 40% of the people had vaccine version measles, so someone is spreading it.
It is like all the folk talking confidently about how vaccine injuries are rare side effects, but not saying that they only have a passive tracking system where, even according to the CDC only 1 in 10 or less vaccine injuries are even reported.
We know from the Navy boat out to see with Mumps cases with 100% of vaccinated sailors that fully vaccinated sailors can transmit mumps to each other; what are the chances fully vaccinated children with measles rashes are transmitting that to surrounding people too?
Laura Codon,
I always support honest facts; in this case,though, if you look at the dates on the various news articles,the story changes from "yes the child definitely has measles" to more recently "the child is vaccinated, its just a reaction, nothing to see here...."
From the article:
Officials said specialized laboratory testing was done after it was learned that the child had been vaccinated days before being diagnosed with measles. The tests determined that the child was experiencing symptoms of a vaccine reaction, rather than measles.

They then go on to say

"More severe or extensive reactions that may mimic real measles disease, like what we saw in this child, are very rare," said Chan.The MMR vaccine is made using a weakened virus. There have been no confirmed cases in the scientific literature of human-to-human transmission of the vaccine strain of the measles virus."
Yep. And I bet all those doctors are just dying to write up papers when they find measles vaccine transmission to other people. First thing they would do is write a paper, that would probably get them in a lot of hot water, even if they could get it published, rather than pretend it didn't happen or just quietly treat it and say it must have been someone else who transmitted the virus, right?

Laura Hayes

From my 2015 article regarding measles here on AoA:


“Did you know that historical statistical figures for reported measles cases have been fraught with error? For but one example, I will refer to doctor-diagnosed "measles" cases in the UK in the late 1990s, where a serious problem emerged. A government scientist discovered that only 1 in 40 reported cases of measles was actually confirmed to be measles after lab testing. This discovery throws into question historical, and current, figures for measles. If reported cases are not required to be lab-confirmed, then this scientist’s discovery would lead us to believe that there has been gross over-reporting of measles cases, past and present.

Daily Telegraph 8 January 1997 London (Europe Today): "97.5% of the times that British doctors diagnose measles they are wrong", says a publication of the Public Health Laboratory service. The mistake being made by National Health GP's was found when the services tested the saliva of more than 12,000 children who had been diagnosed as having measles. Roger Buttery, an adviser on transmissible diseases at the Cambridge and Huntingdon Health Department, said that the majority of doctors "say they can recognize measles a mile off, but we now know that this illness occurs only in 2.5% of the cases." Buttery says that doctors classify as measles many other viruses that also cause spots. He found eight different viruses during the survey in East Anglia. One of them, parvovirus, gives symptoms similar to German measles. The reason for the high rate of error puzzled Buttery. "Doctors are neither vague nor careless," he said. The solution is to defer the diagnosis until more detailed information can be got. There are 5,000 to 6,000 cases of measles registered each year in the United Kingdom, but these findings now call most of them into doubt."

Geez, ever wonder if that might be happening at Disneyland, and beyond...and for multiple diseases against which we vaccinate, including the "flu"?”

Jenny Allan

Laura and all..............Just for your interest.
50+ years ago my elder daughter was vaccinated against measles with a then new (to the UK) vaccine. She was 18 months old and our family doctor (now called GPs) injected her. I was warned she might be fractious and would 'probably' develop a rash. She did. After a few days she recovered and to this day has not had measles. I assume the vaccine was effective and provided lifelong immunity. Perhaps she had a mild dose of measles via the vaccine. Vaccine boosters were then non existent.

Shortly afterwards, one these early measles vaccines was taken off the market for causing all the problems associated with measles. My younger daughter was administered one of these replacement vaccines, against the advice of our doctor, who said he'd had more trouble with the vaccine than he'd had with the measles. This time, no rash and no fractiousness, but when my younger daughter was 3 years old she caught a nasty dose of the measles.

It seems the more effective the vaccine, the more chance of side effects, but weakening the vaccine provides less protection. A classic example of this is the Jeryl Lynn mumps MMR component, which replaced the dangerous, but effective, Urabe mumps component. Now previously vaccinated teenagers are contracting mumps in droves, when it is far more serious and can cause sterility.

It should be remembered that vaccines containing live viruses are actually infecting recipients with an 'attenuated' form of the diseases. MMR contains three live viruses. Madness in my opinion.

Grace Green

It could be an absent parent who has taken the child for a vaccination without telling the full-time carer about it. One of my sons got his medical records as an adult and we discovered he'd had the measles jab without my knowledge when he was a toddler!

go Trump

Seems the "US measles pandemic outbreak" is still in the .03% range, that is 3/100th of 1%

From there, every TV station in the nation is reporting the "record measles outbreak" each and every day to make money, while they hold up a vial of the lifesaving MMR vaccine.

It will be nice when they can start on the Zika season soon.


It would seem to me that one of the first questions asked of parents with a child having measles symptoms is if the child had been recently vaccinated with the MMR vaccine. I can not conceive of a parent not knowing the answer. Even if they only knew he received some vaccine this could easily be checked by the hospital before they determined the child had wild measles

But then reporting a vaccine strain measles as wild measles gets headline news and fuels the pro-vaxx campaign while a subsequent retraction a week later gets buried on page 20. Misreporting these cases works for the pro-vaxxers obviously. Intentional or incompetence is the question. You decide.

david m burd

Here are extensive references clearly showing the mortal and life-time injuries caused by the MMR vaccine. Such data many times over cites not more than 1% of such infant/child victims are actually reported.

Hence even the dogmatic doctors/nurses giving and believing in vaccines have more benefit than harm shut themselves off from reality, while our Mainstream Media Whores are completely/happily ignorant to spout the miniscule dangers of true measles.

Everyone in my generation actually got (6 decades ago), a "tempering and beneficial measles episode "that Nature meant us to have". In my generation obvious measles (though some were surely sub-clinical), serious repercussions were virtually/completely unknown. Of course there have always been (usually malnourished) children badly affected via any disease including measles, whereas the other side of this malnourished coin a toxic vaccination such as the MMR would result in far for death and/or damage. Here's the refererence from NVIC:



I guess after vaccination it's called Vaccine-Associated Rash Illness.

“'Vaccine-Associated Rash Illness' looks so much like wild measles that parents go in droves to emergency rooms, usually seven to 12 days after a shot. Even doctors have to be educated to distinguish 'vaccine-associated measles' from 'vaccine-preventable' measles. The only accurate way to do this is by genotyping the virus using polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing. Good thing we can do that, right? Except that doctors are told not to do PCR tests on children with measles who were recently vaccinated. Public health agencies tell doctors that they must report every case of measles – unless it is in children (or adults) who were recently vaccinated...."


Managing Editor for Laura

Hey there, Laura. Instead of getting on your high horse and accusing us of spreading false info - we linked a story - how about sending us a proper email with clarification or your point of view. For the love of God, we're fighting the same battle - it's no wonder we can't win for losing when people like you come in to beat us up. My email is KimRossi1111@gmail.com. I'd be happy to post something from you tomorrow.


Shelley Tzorfas

Was it in the Journal of Clinical Microbiology that up to 38% of measles were found to be the vaccine strain in 38% of measles cases?https://jcm.asm.org/content/55/3/735?fbclid=IwAR2yyLKb7etv2fB_KBw0EnzvG5Eahbp5x0C0KeXQ9juRY4SyvXjQ2CMSwXc

Jeannette Bishop

They now assume the pulbic is "safe."


What many of us may need to be asking is how often are the unborn/newly born are unknowingly exposed to shedding attenuated MMR strains resulting in some of the immune activation events (generally rash free events) involved in the autism epidemic?

I mean, we can work to stop injecting Hg, Al, etc and reduce other sources of exposure, but how much will a cessation of use of live attenuated MMR vaccines (apparently Merck has a new one in the works) also be required to end this epidemic, especially if we can't significantly reduce the background burden of immune system pollutants?

John Stone


At AoA we may occasionally make mistakes like anyone else, we do not “spread misinformation”. Have you got a better source for this story?



I'm writing from Keene, N.H., where I was born, and where this whole sad episode occurred. I haven't yet read any news reports in other media, so all my comments and info come from the Keene Sentinel, (sentinelsource.com), which I read every day. For weeks now, the Sentinel has been running "news stories", often from the Washington Post (That's Jeff Bezos' paper, right?....), about the so-called "measles epidemic", and how all those evil "anti-vaxxers" are causing it. So I was concerned when a "measles case" popped up here. But the story just didn't pass the "smell test" with me. At first, the word in the news was that the child with "measles"(supposedly!) was "too young to be vaccinated". Apparently, *THAT* bit of "news" came from Cynthia Bagley, Pastor at the United Church of Christ here in Keene. That's also the "big white church with steeple" at the head of the Square in downtown Keene.
Apparently, the kid was taken with "symptoms" of "measles" to the local ER, who did a preliminary test, which returned a (FALSE) "positive" for "measles". And so the SCARE was on.... Until a few days later, when another, more sensitive test was done, which showed NO MEASLES! And, only AFTER did it come out that the kid was NOT "too young" for vaxxes, but that the kid HAD been vaxxed, and that's what caused to whole scare!.... I'm glad AoA is sharing this story, and I hope they can do a longer, more detailed story, also. The Sentinel has been strangely quiet the past few days!....

Laura Condon

Sad to see misinformation spread by AoA. Disappointing, misleading title from AoA. Actually the child DID have measles. It was confirmed vaccine-strain genotype A measles.


..... helping to fuel the panic that mandates the MMR vaccine....


I personally believe that this so called measles 'outbreak', exists entirely in the media. Where it has been conveniently fabricated to scare people back into vaccines line ups, and demonize anyone who is rightfully expressing concerns about the safety and/or efficacy of any vaccine.

But panic... over measles?

Give me a break

Bob Moffit

Just curious .. how often does this type of "mis-diagnosis" of measles occur? Obviously .. we can never know with any certainty because the greatest power of the press is their power to ignore .. which means .. if this misdiagnosis occurs routinely .. it will likely be IGNORED by the press.

As the saying goes .. if the tree falls deep in the woods .. we would never know,, if no one (press) told us about it.

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