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by Ginger Taylor MS

It will have to go back to the House for concurrence.

KOMO News:

Screenshot (2290)OLYMPIA, Wash. — The state Senate passed a bill Wednesday night 25-22 along party lines that eliminates the "personal preference" exemption from the requirement to have kids vaccinated against measles. It came after the 5 p.m. deadline when the Senate rules allowed for this bill to be voted on passed the cutoff time.

It comes on the heels of the measles outbreak in Clark County. The state Secretary of Health says the vaccine is safe. A large group of parents don't believe that.

Demonstrators took to the capitol steps ahead of the vote to protest that bill (SB 1638) saying it should be up to parents on whether their kids should get vaccinated.

"We're not here saying that we're anti vaccine," said bill opponent Elvera Karpachuk. "But we want to make sure that we have choice."

Other protest groups said they are definitely against the vaccine and staged large demonstrations at the capitol.

State Health Secretary Dr. John Wiesman testified earlier, "The bottom line is, this is preventable and it's preventable with our highly safe and effective vaccines."

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Jeannette Bishop

https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org/measles/

@R Jensen, the original text of California's SB277 mandated vaccines for homeschooled children, private schools etc. Still includes private schools, but some schools are refusing to turn in vaccine status data. Just saying that in the future, avoiding the state sponsored and for some mandated "education" may not be enough to avoid forced vaccination.

David Weiner

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

LEWIS CARROLL (Charles L. Dodgson), Through the Looking-Glass, chapter 6, p. 205 (1934). First published in 1872.

Pogo

@Bob Moffit

Ah Socrates. ὁ ἀνεξέταστος βίος οὐ βιωτὸς ἀνθρώπῳ “An unexamined life is a life not worth living” Think he would also comment that even Jupiter himself wouldn’t be able to persuade the Sec of Health et. al. to define ‘safe’ as represents one of the ideological pillars needed to justify her/their actions. Therefore, they can’t question this pillar at all, regardless of how many attend to oppose the deliberations. This form of mental pathology brought down Ancient Egypt as can be read in Thrice-Greatest Hermes, Vol. 2 chapter XXIV. It also shattered Ancient Greece and later Rome. So the pathology is well recognised as it repeats itself.

It is the actions which will follow, that will bring results, when it is realised by a greater number of people than now, that Ideological Possession is currently ruling the day.

But first we need to educate more of those who can still think for themselves.

https://fee.org/articles/the-diagnosis-and-treatment-of-ideological-possession/

Bob Moffit

"It comes on the heels of the measles outbreak in Clark County. The state Secretary of Health says the vaccine is safe. A large group of parents don't believe that."

Socrates had a rule by which his students had to follow .. that rule was … FIRST .. DEFINE YOUR TERMS .. as Socrates had learned over his decades the meaning of "words" must be clarified if you are having a true debate .. such as … the word 'liberty" is not the same as the word 'freedom". Often Socrates students had spirited debate over clarifying the meaning of the "words" they spoke and never got to debate the original issue.

Sorry for the lecture … but … it would truly advance the discussion of vaccines if the Sec of Health defined what he means by "safe"? What is his standard of being "safe" .. 1 in a MILLION injured by vaccine .. as opposed to the true number to suffer the CDC's extensive list of MMR "complications"? If "safe" is determined by the number injured by the vaccine as opposed to the number seriously injured by Measles or Mumps .. then all effort must be made to correctly ascertain the numbers involved .. and .. even the Sec of Health would have to admit .. unlike the measles injured .. the numbers of vaccine injured are vastly unreported .. why should the Sec of Health not demand the true numbers be reported to defend his "safe" position? Most especially why isn't the Sec of Health demanding a truly independent scientific study of vaccinated v. unvaccinated to PROVE beyond all doubt his use of the word "safe" is right?


Pete

"if you are knowledgeable enough about health to know that vaccines are toxic to your childrens bodies, how is it then that you are not knowledgeable enough to know that public schools are toxic to your childrens minds"

R Jensen,

I believe that we all wake up to different lies at different stages, though also not everyone will have the time/resource to home school even if they want to.

susan welch

R Jensen, I'm from UK so know little about public schools in US.

However, as this is a site which focuses on health, autism and related subjects, I'm not sure why we would be debating public schools.

pieces of silver

Yet again, Democrats betray human rights.

R Jensen

What puzzles me is this: if you are knowledgeable enough about health to know that vaccines are toxic to your childrens bodies, how is it then that you are not knowledgeable enough to know that public schools are toxic to your childrens minds?

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