Eindecker

Yes, they do seem to have made it available but not before the media blitz, which was not of course politically timed, eh?

My immediate impression is that they do not seem to have addressed their earlier problem (Madsen) that the younger children in the survey were too young to have a diagnosis (the youngest would have been two years 9 months in this one). But there also seems to be a bit of the old DeStefano, in that children with immigrant mothers have been excluded. Why do you suppose that would be?

Eindecker

What a surprise, from the Thorsen gang on the day of the Congressional hearing!

Authors are working at Statens Serum Institut in Denmark, a well known developer of vaccines, https://en.ssi.dk/research/center-for-vaccine-research They also have an interest in making money out of their vaccine business, https://en.ssi.dk/research/center-for-vaccine-research/business-development

The study is funded by Novo Nordisk Foundation. https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/ This fund is owned by Novo Holdings A/S, https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/about-the-foundation/ownership/

Novo Holdings is investing in vaccines,

https://www.novoholdings.dk/globalassets/pdf/press-releases/novo-seeds_repair-impact-fund-press-release-final.pdf

F Edward Yazbak, 'The CDC finances, writes and helps publish Danish research
Another useless CDC-supported autism study'

https://vaccinationnews.org/sites/default/files/DanishStudy2005.pdf

I haven't been able to download the new paper, but like a lot of these papers it records a protective effect of MMR (indicative of bias).

https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/02/britains-chief-doctor-exits-having-made-poor-case-for-mmr-safety.html

some of us are aware that synchronising the release of papers at politically sensitive times is part of the game.''

http://jameslyonsweiler.com/2019/03/05/an-autopsy-on-hviid-et-al-2019s-mmr-vaccine-science-like-activities/

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2019/3/4/new-danish-mmr-study-shows-autism-rate-of-1-in-100-cdc-should-rush-to-denmark

@Laura Hayes
I agree completely, the phrase is a trap, because all they have to do is deny and censor and whitewash all the safety issues and suddenly they can justify removing the choice. We are not far from that point now as they begin to leverage all of their vast power, money, and influence towards full-scale censorship.

@Natalie
Here is a good 12 part series that covers many sides of the issue from a high level (other parts are linked at the bottom): http://visionlaunch.com/many-people-choosing-not-vaccinate/

It is reasonable to suspect that a child with an immune system weakened by twenty five disease specific vaccine doses during the first six months of life will be more susceptible to complications from both measles and MMR.

I would imagine that whatever children received in Finland in the early eighties was a lot less than that which would make the Finnish study worthless at this point.

@Natalie, if the current focus on measles is particularly concerning for your husband, this article with a large focus on measles history may be a helpful starting place:

https://therefusers.com/crucify-the-vaccine-heretics-by-roman-bystrianyk-dissolving-illusions/

Natalie,

I would suggest that you watch Vaxxed with your husband. You can stream it at Vaxxed.com.

It is very compelling, even to the pro-vax viewers.

So RFK Jr can't testify before Congress, but that kid who got himself vaccinated can?

"1-3 in 1,000 children contracting measles will develop encephalitis concurrent with the measles infection.10–15% of those children will die and a further 25% will be left with permanent neurological damage."

This figure is completely made up. We know when someone receives a vaccine (for the most part). We have zero knowledge on how many people come into contact with (or are "infected by) the measles virus - much less when this actually occurred. There is no way of knowing the denominator (Eindecker is a pro-vaxer so he will have to look up what a "denominator" is) so there is no way of knowing the ratio.

But we can go further than just saying the ratio is an obvious lie. There is zero evidence that the measles virus has ever caused a single injury in history. Indeed, there is zero evidence that it can even cause a rash.

Basic thinking tells you that it cannot. Rashes are - for the most part - focused. How could they be focused if they are caused by something that spreads through the bloodstream? They cannot. It is lunacy. Like all pro-vax beliefs. Rashes are typically focused on particular parts of the body because they are caused by the one thing that allows them to be focused on particuar parts of the body - the mind.

Once you wrap your head around the fact that rashes are focused you soon realize that the entire germ theory is abject nonsense (indeed, you realize that any theory of disease that doesn't place the mind as front and center is abject nonsense) and you soon wonder how anybody could have been stupid enough to entertain the notion in the first place (even apart from the fact that doctor offices would be death pits if germ theory were true).

Thank you so very much Ms Jameson for the wisdom you share! Thank you too to all the people who are able to get to DC to represent the truth!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/meas.html#complications

"Acute encephalitis occurs in approximately 0.1% of reported cases." (note the word "reported" that is routinely missed elsewhere)

Meanwhile, something or some combinations of things "unknown" is causing impairing encephalopathies like ASD, ADHD, etc on order of what? 1 in 15? A whole generation is suffering from "failure to launch." And those tasked with or claiming to be about "disease control?" They only seem happy to have more "control."

David Weiner,

I appreciate your comment, thank you.

Along these same lines, below is another comment I posted today on another forum in response to a request to sign and circulate this petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/presidential-appointment-independent-vaccine-safety-commission

My comment:

I have a problem with #3:

3)Identification of sub-populations of infants susceptible to vaccine injury from aluminum adjuvant and other vaccine constituents.

Which infant isn't susceptible to vaccine injury from aluminum adjuvant and other vaccine constituents? This perpetuates the propaganda that the toxic, neurotoxic, poisonous, heinous ingredients in vaccines are safe for some/the majority. It is not acceptable or ethical to perpetuate this dangerous falsehood. Are the authors willing to change the language for #3?

And, I would propose a new #1, as it should be the top priority, and take precedence over all else:

1.) All 50 states violating the U.S. Constitution, in addition to numerous international codes of ethics to which the U.S. is a signor, by mandating and/or requiring vaccinations for daycare enrollees, students of all ages and grade levels, an increasing number of occupations, and those receiving financial assistance from both state and federal government programs.

Eindeker, Thank you for admitting MMR causes encephalitis. Please proceed with a randomized, double-blind, inert-placebo controlled trial of MMR so you can quote numbers based scientific methods. Assuming you are interested in preventing, preventable causes of encephalitis. Please understand, young children who stop smiling, responding to their name and lose language are not hospitalized post-vaccination, they are diagnosed as autistic on an outpatient basis. It is a junk-pile Wizard of Oz: "don't look behind the curtain" type of diagnosis. Bottom line, your 1 in a million statistic is not believable. I live in a small town of 25,000. Autism is not 1 in a million here. It is more like 1 in 50 and that was not the case 30 years ago.

Eindecker, I'm sorry, but I now seriously wonder what planet you are on.

The grandson who was most seriously affected (I have 2 who regressed), had the MMR. That same day he had a reaction and my daughter in law took him back to the doctor and screamed at him 'What have you done to my son?' Over the next weeks he lost all words and started lining up his toys, eventually to be diagnosed with autism.

Just one story. Thousands of parents have the same story.

On your planet, they are all suffering from 'a coincidence'. In our world, healthy children became disabled after vaccination.

Your planet relies on dodgy research. Ours, hopefully, has plenty of patience and compassion (an quality you surely lack)

Eindecker

I don't have it immediately to hand. This is what Ed Yazbak wrote in 2004:

"The third study from Finland is more recent (2002). It is also based on the data of passive reporting from the "National Campaign" and is titled Neurologic Disorders After Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination. The authors Makela, Peltola et al. compared the numbers of events of encephalitis and aseptic meningitis, within a 3-month risk interval after vaccination with the expected numbers estimated on the basis of occurrence of encephalitis and aseptic meningitis during the subsequent 3-month intervals. Examining the incidence of encephalitis and aseptic meningitis in the two weeks following vaccination would have been much better, because cases occurring during that period, would be considered ipso facto vaccine complications.

"Again in this study, although no one in Finland was looking for autism before 1986, the authors went ahead and included it. Interestingly, by stating: "The aim of this study was to assess whether an association prevails between MMR vaccination and encephalitis, aseptic meningitis, and autism" in an article titled "Neurologic Disorders after Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination" the authors in fact imply that autism is a neurological complication of MMR vaccination."

https://www.vaccinationnews.org/node/19940.html

This from the Safeminds review in 2011:-

2) Neurologic Disorders After Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination.[7]

Authors: Annamari Mäkelä, MD, J. Pekka Nuorti, MD, and Heikki Peltola, MD,

Publication & Date: Pediatrics, November 2002

Online at: www.pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/110/5/957

Details: This paper is often referred to as the “Finnish MMR Study”. The authors conducted a retrospective cohort study linking individual MMR vaccination data with a hospital discharge register among 535,544 children in Finland, aged 1-to-7 years old, who were vaccinated between November 1982 and June 1986 in Finland. The authors looked for changes in the overall number of hospitalizations for autism after vaccination throughout the study period and for hospitalizations due to inflammatory bowel disease for children with autism. For encephalitis and aseptic meningitis, they compared the number of events observed within 3 months after vaccination to the number of events in the subsequent 3-month intervals for 24 months.

Results: Of the 535,544 vaccinated children, 199 were hospitalized for encephalitis, 161 for aseptic meningitis, and 352 for autistic disorders (a rate of 6.7-per-10,000). In 9 children with encephalitis and 10 with meningitis, the disease developed within 3 months of vaccination, revealing no increased occurrence within this designated risk period. Because there is no specific “risk period” for autism following vaccination, the authors looked for changes in the number of hospitalizations for autism after MMR vaccination for the study as a whole. They found no clustering of autism hospitalizations, which ranged from 3 days to twelve and a half years. None of children with ASD had hospital visits for inflammatory bowel diseases.

Authors’ Conclusions: “We did not identify any association between MMR vaccination and encephalitis, aseptic meningitis, or autism.”

WHAT CRITICS SAID:

F. Edward Yazbak, MD: Makela et al. were so intent on shooting down Wakefield’s work that even in a paper titled “Neurologic disorders after MMR,” they found a way to mention that no hospitalized children with autism had IBD. But regardless of what Makela says, the fact is that the number of individuals who received assistance for IBD from the Social Security Institution in Finland doubled in nine years (from 9,737 in 1992 to 20,807 in 2001).

The whole study is based on ONE comparison. If the children in the first group developed symptoms of encephalitis and meningitis within two weeks of vaccination, then causation is implied (medically and medico-legally). In this case, a comparison with the control group is meaningless and the author’s conclusion is unwarranted.[8]

WHAT THE COCHRANE REVIEW SAID:

■ This study suffered from a “moderate” risk of bias.

■ It was “weakened” by the loss of 14% of the original birth cohort and the effects of the rather long time frame of follow up. What the impact of either of these factors was in terms of confounders is open to debate.

■ The long follow up for autism was due to the lack of a properly constructed causal hypothesis.

■ The study failed to report complete vaccine identification information, including lot numbers, adjuvants, preservatives, strains, product and manufacturer.

■ There was a lack of adequate description of exposure (vaccine content and schedules).

■ The authors provided “inadequate” explanations for missing information, even though there were clearly missing unintended-event data on as many as 20% of the participants.

■ The study had discrepancies in reporting of denominators and was classified to be at moderate risk of bias.

What the IOM said: The study suffered from one primary limitation: its exclusive reliance on hospitalization records. This made it impossible to identify children with ASD who were not hospitalized, but rather seen in an outpatient setting. The IOM went on to say that “While the authors stated that it is common in Finland for children with autism to be admitted to the hospital for observation and testing, a diagnosis of autism does not always involve hospitalization.”[9]

What Science-Based Medicine.com said: “Using ‘hospitalizations’ as criteria for finding children with autism (is) not a good way to find autism cases, I agree.”[10]

SUMMARY:

The “Finnish MMR study” fails to make explicit the exact definition of ‘caseness’, particularly with respect to autism. The criticisms leveled at the study are crucially important in this respect. First, there is a failure to differentiate between autism per se, and the sub-group who are proposed to be at increased risk (i.e. those with regressive onset). There is also a degree of circularity in the statement that those whose encephalitis was ‘unrelated to vaccination’ were excluded. To deselect particular cases before analysis, on the basis of a proposed non-relationship between exposure and outcome is poor epidemiological practice. Further, it implies that decisions about causality were made after the event, on the basis of criteria which were not made explicit to the reader. At face value, the exclusion of these cases would appear to work in favor of those proposing a possible association between exposure and hospitalization; but this would only be the case if the lack of association was real. No evidence is presented which allows formulation of an opinion on this. The most problematic factor, however, is in the assumption that children hospitalized ‘for autism’ somehow represent the very well defined group of children that are proposed to be at risk of an adverse event following vaccination. This assumption simply has no validity, and neither, therefore, do any conclusions based on data related to this group.

https://www.ageofautism.com/2011/07/part-2-.html

Eindeker
Dr. Michaela Glockler said in A Guide to Child Health, p. 114, 2003 English translation of the fourteenth German edition of 2001: "Vaccination recommendations set the incidence of encephalitis due to measles at 1:1000 to 1:2000 - clearly too high. Empirical results from practicing physicians suggest an incidence of approximately 1 in every 10,000 cases of measles, and one expert calculates that only 1 in every 15,000 toddlers with measles gets encephalitis. The possibility cannot be ruled out, however, that routine use of fever suppressants is contributing to the increasing frequency of viral infections. According to current knowledge, measles encephalitis is fatal in approximately one-sixth of pediatric cases, and one-fourth are left with permanent and sometimes serious neurological damage. In 1960 the prognosis was generally still considered good. Children who have gained experience in dealing with infectious illness by being allowed to ride out previous infections without suppressive medication generally also make it through measles better than children who have not. If encephalitis develops nonetheless, a combination of the continuous supportive presence of a parent in the hospital, drug therapy for cerebral edema, and complementary medical treatment may positively influence the course of the illness."

As I have said before, giving fever reducers can cause encephalitis, because it is impeding the immune system from doing what it is specifically trying to do based on millions of years of evolution, save your life, deploying innumerable ingenious and little-understood techniques. The answer if to NOT try to lower the fever of measles or any other contagious disease by artificial means, either drugs like Tylenol, Ibuprofen, or aspirin, or by immersion baths, even cool compresses. The patient should have covers which he can push back or pull up as he wishes, and be given tea, juice, or water in amounts that he does not become dehydrated, must be kept in bed from the moment fever or measles is realized until both of the two occurrences of fever are over, and then kept quiet at home for two or three weeks after the day the rash appears, to avoid complications while the immune system is recovering. The fever will continue as long as the calves of the legs feel cool (Waldorf (anthroposophic)) observation, and when they finally feel warm, then you can wrap the calves of the legs in cloths soaked in lukewarm water with fresh lemon juice in it, and it will disperse the remaining heat very quickly.

I can’t believe that there hasn’t been any pushback on the blatant censorship that Adam Schiff is demanding! Not one other rep or senator had Said a word. What’s next? No speaking out on GMOs or geo engineering or fluoride? I just read Netflix took down a documentary about how root canals can cause cancer because the ADA was unhappy about it. They may just start with vaccines but it won’t end there. Truly terrifying times!

Suggestion for AoA readers:

During SB277, the mantra chosen was “Because there is risk, there must be choice.” I didn’t like it then, and I don’t like it now. It is not accurate. I was asked to state it at the end of my first rally speech opposing SB277, and I regret capitulating against my better judgement.

There must always be choice, whether there is known risk or perceived no risk. No caveats can be added in when we are talking about individual and parental rights with regard to medical decision making.

Better and more accurate mantras would be:

“Medical mandates cannot exist in a free and ethical society, no exceptions.”

“The practice of ethical medicine requires the prior, completely voluntary, and fully informed consent of the individual or parent.”

“Informed consent, the hallmark of ethical medicine, requires a formal opting in, never a formal opting out. A simple “no thank you” should always suffice when one wants to decline or refuse any medical treatment or procedure for oneself or one’s child.”

Our rhetoric is critically important. We must make every word count, and every word accurate. We must be careful not to say or write anything that perpetuates the vaccine propaganda, or that leaves room for unacceptable exceptions. We must demand our rights and freedoms at every opportunity, without compromise. We must defend and uphold our Constitution, which guarantees the individual and parental rights to which I refer.

Fine, convincing data, Eindecker and many people believe such research - until their child has the MMR , has a reaction, then regresses to autism.

Whatever data you come up with, you cannot dismiss the fact that all children were exposed to measles until the introduction of the vaccine. Even then, the single vaccine did not produce the devastating reactions of the MMR.

Just as a one family case study, I had measles, my son had measles, his son had MMR and is now non verbal and requires 24/7 care because of his disability. My son and I have lived extremely healthy lives.

If measles produces the amount of encephalitis (which leads to autism) you claim, why had no-one I knew ever heard of autism and did not know of anyone with it until the 1990s?

Yes, we were aware that measles was the more serious of the childhood diseases, but we were not afraid of it because our children were healthy and overcame it without problems. All I remember being told when my son had it was 'draw the curtains' to keep out the light.

Your stats may look convincing on paper, but they are not in the least convincing when looked at from a historical perspective and the devastation that is occurring in this generation.

I find it truly offensive that you believe words on a paper are more important than the fact that so many families have to live with the disability of a child they love just so that Pharma can carry on making money and governments can carry on covering up the fact that they made a massive mistake when they decided to put Pharma profits before the health of their nations.

When I developed measles encephalitis from the measles, a recent mercury containing vaccine and a strep infection, the doctor told my parents, one in ten thousand. My pediatrician taught pediatrics at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. I was not sent to the nearest hospital but a clinic hospital who employed two neurologists who were students of my doctor. One believed the canary we had just purchased may have carried an additional infection, but was dismissed by Hopkins, stating that birds can not transmit infections to humans. In fact the canary died when I was in the hospital. The doctor wanted to know what we did with it, did we bury him and he wanted to do an autopsy. Knowing my Mother she probably tossed the bird into the trash. I guess the "bird flu" of recent times is just fiction? The CDC's own data showing that one in 39 African American boys receiving the MMR at twelve months by itself developed autism is sickening, and yet they have continued to give this vaccine. I agree with Dr. Andrew Wakefield's opinion that is separated in three vaccines would be a safer way then three live viral vaccines given very casually with no thought that the risk to the child be greater. I would go through my recovery and illness a thousand times over if my son would be fine.

A backhanded acknowledgement to Adam Schiff et al.

Ho, Ho. The current attempts of censorship appears to be triggering the Streisand effect which is a phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the internet. It is an example of psychological reactance, wherein once people are aware that some information is being kept from them, their motivation to access and spread it is increased.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Being the Doubting Thomas that I am (by the pharmaceutical definition of the term) I too decided to explore for evidence of this effect. (Note: I am using the legal definition of the word 'evidence’ as it applies in criminal court. In which it is deemed good enough to hang a man and not the scientific usage. This note is just in-case a proponent of the current vaccines is reading this and misunderstands the difference and doesn’t realize both usages can be valid.).

Looking at just the AoA web page visits for example: Behold…
In August 2018 web visits were at a respectable 63,993. By January this year they had

more than tripled