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The Wage of Spin: The Death of Leading UK Cancer Expert Martin Gore, 67, From a Yellow Fever Vaccination Provides the Press With Yet Another Opportunity to Misreport Vaccine Risks

The Wage of Spin Adriana Gamondes
By Adriana Gamondes

As reported by the BBC and other news agencies worldwide, Professor Martin Gore, 67, one of the UK’s leading cancer scientists, died within hours of receiving a yellow fever vaccination.  Many within Gore’s professional field paid tribute to their colleague and issued an outpouring of support and condolences.

Professor Martin Gore
Dr. Martin Gore

The BBC report distinguished itself from other media reports by including a list of contraindications to the vaccine such as egg allergy. But like every other news source, BBC coverage was quick to authoritatively spin-doctor risks from the vaccine:

Prof Peter Openshaw, past president of the British Society for Immunology, said the overall risk of serious side-effects from the vaccination remains very low, at about one in every 100,000 of vaccine recipients.

However, he added: "It seems that people aged over 60 have a three to four-fold increased risk of experiencing these serious effects compared with younger people. However, this estimate is based on very few reported adverse events.

"This risk has to be balanced against the risk of contracting yellow fever if you are travelling to an infected area - a nasty disease with a high mortality rate."

He said the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) was the UK body charged with looking into adverse side-effects reported from vaccines.

"They will undoubtedly conduct a proper analysis of this case to ensure it was caused by the vaccine rather than an incidental unconnected cause, such as sepsis."

The Lancet has reported a few more deaths from the yellow fever vaccine around the world, though curiously all among children and none in the over-60 category:

Two deaths were recorded by a team from a specialist World Health Organization centre in Brazil.

In the first case, a five-year-old girl suffered fever, headache and vomiting three days after being given the vaccine. She died after a five day illness.

The second patient – a 22-year-old woman – developed a sore throat and fever, accompanied by headache, muscle pain, nausea, and vomiting four days after vaccination.

She then developed symptoms including jaundice and renal failure, and died after six days of illness.

The cases were similar to a third fatality reported by the South Western Area Pathology Service in Sydney, Australia.

The Royal Marsden NHS foundation trust publicly announced that Dr. Gore’s death resulted definitively from the vaccination though the precise nature of the adverse event has not been made clear. Dr. Gore reportedly died of total organ failure which could suggest that the live vaccine-strain yellow fever virus reverted to fully infectious, hemorrhagic form—a rare effect known as vaccine-associated viscerotropic disease.

Was Gore fully assessed of risk/benefit ratio before he took the shot? It’s unlikely since no one understands precisely why an estimated .05% of people who receive the yellow fever vaccine develop viscerotropic disease. What’s more, statistics for disease incidence are impossible to gather since the vast majority of wild yellow fever infections are mild and go unreported.  Furthermore, as award-winning BBC journalist Malcolm Brabant discovered in 2011, risks are played down in the extreme.

In 2013, Malcolm Brabant went public with his experience following a yellow fever vaccination which he received two years prior. The vaccine and certificate proving Brabant had received it were required for him travel to Cote D’Ivoire on assignment. Brabant reports that after receiving the dose, he was plunged into a suicidal psychosis consistent with symptoms of vaccine-associated neurotropic disease which is roughly 26 times more common than the more deadly viscerotropic disease.

According to Brabant, Sanofi-Pasteur, the maker of the Stamaril yellow fever vaccine, took years to respond to Brabant’s attempts to get answers.  In contradiction to all of Brabant’s physicians who insisted the vaccine caused his harrowing descent into madness,  Sanofi finally issued a carefully worded statement claiming Brabant went mad on his own, concluding essentially the “correlation does not equal causation.”

The corporation was so uninterested in Brabant’s adverse reaction that even Dr. Heidi Larson—lead researcher for the Gates Foundation’s Vaccine Confidence Project—called the company’s response “inadequate” and suggested that the vaccine formulation—which has not changed since the 1960’s—is not only outdated but being given in too large a dose. Interestingly, Larson holds up Sanofi-Pasteur’s conduct in this case as an example of the damage corporations do to public confidence in vaccination. Typically the news media only publish Larson’s statements that “antivaccine advocates” damage confidence.

Brabant published a book in 2013 and later made a documentary film titled Malcolm is a Little Unwell  about his ordeal and the devastating effects his illness had on his family. The film is available on Amazon.


On the surface Brabant’s claims don’t contradict the current party line since Brabant fits the profile of an individual over 60— the only subgroup reported in recent coverage of the death of Martin Gore to be at risk to adverse events from the yellow fever vaccine. But as with most vaccine-related deaths and injuries, only about 1% to 10% of reactions are ever officially recognized. To make matters more complicated, the media—though forced in high profile cases such as Gore’s and Brabant’s to report adverse events—does no service to the public by further spinning risks that have already been spun to death on behalf an industry that is, as Brabant states at the end of his documentary regarding Sanofi, “content” to accept collateral damage from its profitable products because most people who receive them—and therefore most of the collateral— are the “poorest on the planet.”

What the Media Should be Asking and Reporting Regarding the Yellow Fever Vaccine

Brabant suggests that vast numbers of people are being injured by the yellow fever vaccine who are never officially recognized. Whether this is because victims lack access to modern healthcare or because they live in undemocratic regions which mandate vaccines and have no free press is also unknown. Meanwhile, the western world generally boasts a free press but if reports on the death of Martin Gore are any measure, that  hypothetical freedom  is not being used. The following is an attempt to fill in the information gaps regarding the vaccine for yellow fever. 

Yellow fever is the more serious among diseases within the flavivirus class which includes dengue, West Nile and zika, all three of which are arboviruses (mosquito-borne).  Risks in regions traditionally unaffected by yellow fever may be increasing due to climate change and globalization.

Most cases of yellow fever are reportedly mild although a small percentage can enter a secondary stage which, according to historical studies, is nearly 7 times as fatal to Caucasians compared to yellow fever mortality rates among non-Caucasians.  According to researchers, the discrepancy may be due to differences in ethnic immune-related polymorphisms that could provide resistance among regional ethnic populations with multigenerational exposure to the disease in endemic areas. Further studies determined that those with antibodies to dengue fever—which is often endemic in the same regions as yellow fever— generally show increased resistance to yellow fever.

Abstract: A protective immunity against yellow fever, from cross-reactive dengue antibodies, has been hypothesized as an explanation for the absence of yellow fever in Southern Asia where dengue immunity is almost universal. This study evaluates the association between protective immunity from cross-reactive dengue antibodies with yellow fever infection and severity of the disease. The study population consisted of military personnel of a jungle garrison and its detachments located in the Ecuadorian Amazonian rainforest. The cross-sectional study employed interviews as well as seroepidemiological methods. Humoral immune response to yellow fever, Mayaro, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, Oropouche, and dengue 2 infections was assessed by evaluating IgM and IgG specific antibodies. Log-linear regression analysis was used to evaluate age and presence of antibodies, against dengue type 2 virus, as predictors of yellow fever infection or severe disease. During the seroepidemiological survey, presence of dengue antibodies among yellow fever cases were observed in 77.3% cases from the coastal region, where dengue is endemic, 14.3% cases from the Amazon and 16.7 % cases from the Andean region. Dengue cross-reactive antibodies were not significantly associated with yellow fever infection but significantly associated with severity of the disease. The findings of this study suggest that previous exposure to dengue infection may have induced an anamnestic immune response that did not prevent yellow fever infection but greatly reduced the severity of the disease.

In other words, yellow fever is most dangerous to white travelers in tropical and subtropical regions. Human-to-human transmission of the disease is extremely rare since blood-to-blood contact is required. But since yellow fever can be transmitted not only from mosquito to human but also from human to mosquito, several countries have issued yellow fever vaccine mandates in order to travel to and/or from regions where the disease is endemic.

Natural immunity to dengue is not foolproof since there are rare instances of individuals having a more severe response to second and third infections with strains of dengue that differ from primary infections. But this flaw in natural immunity has proved to be worse in terms of response to the dengue vaccine.

A dengue virus vaccine was recently developed not only to prevent first infections, but to avoid severe disease that may occur upon second and third infections. This consequence, called antibody dependent enhancement (ADE), now appears to be caused by the vaccine itself.

After 14 Philippine children died from dengue hemorrhagic fever following vaccination with Sanofi-Pasteur’s Dengvaxia, the country suspended the dengue vaccination program.

MANILA (AFP) - The Philippines is investigating if the deaths of 14 children had any link to a dengue vaccine whose use the government has suspended due to health concerns, officials said on Friday (Jan 5).

The country stopped the sale and distribution of Dengvaxia last month after Sanofi, the French manufacturer, warned it could worsen symptoms for people who had not previously been infected with the virus.

Sanofi has maintained the vaccine does not kill people, but did not comment on the health department's new announcement.

The government has assigned an independent panel of experts to review the cases and expects their findings in one or two weeks, Health Secretary Francisco Duque said.

"We asked them the question, number one: what they think is the cause of death, and then second, do they think it is related to the vaccination," Assistant Health Secretary Enrique Domingo told reporters.

More than 800,000 schoolchildren received the vaccine last year in the world's first public dengue immunisation programme.

Though the Philippines halted the Dengvaxia campaign, Brazil—which has a mandated vaccine schedule for children and a new, proudly undemocratic presidential administration that has made media repression a priority—  has continued to vaccinate children for dengue which may have unexpected—though unlikely to be widely reported— long term consequences.

For instance, researchers have found that there may be “heterologous immunity” between zika and dengue—meaning that antibodies to one flavivirus may provide at least partial protection against other viruses in the same class. This suggests that far more investigation is needed to see whether a vaccine for any one of these diseases in the flavivirus class could have unforeseen cross-reactive immune consequences for others.  In short, more people could start dying from flavivirus infections in the future.  

This brings to mind the relatively recent and largely fictionalized zika virus scare stemming from a rise in the number of infants born with microcephaly in regions of Brazil, cases which were later strongly linked to pesticide exposure. Aside from the fraud and poor science used to pre-market a potentially blockbuster zika vaccine, the case highlights another failure in vaccine development:  that industry and public health authorities don’t consider long-term potential chain reactions from wide vaccination exposure, such as the disruption of formerly natural antibody protection as well as congenital protection of children born to flavivirus-seropositive women.

The same type of disruption is evident in the case of congenitally-derived measles resistance:  infants of women in the generations vaccinated for measles no longer benefit from maternal antibody protection in the critical first year of life as did infants of previous generations whose mothers had formed antibodies from exposure to wild measles.  The typical antibody response to vaccination wanes and doesn’t confer this type of protection.

Spinning the Case for Mandates?  

The recent addition of adult mandates to the already mandated childhood vaccine schedule in Argentina—which has long mandated the yellow fever vaccine for travelers to areas where the disease is endemic— has brought a renewed focus to the reasoning behind obligatory vaccination, which is generally based on arguments that vaccines are necessary to create “herd immunity” or “protect others.”

But what happens to the argument when this isn’t the case?

The logic of mandates is frequently inconsistent. For example, live viral strains in yellow fever vaccines have been known to revert to infectious form which carries an also low but equivalent risk of blood-to-blood or human-to-mosquito transmission of fully-virulent yellow fever. Both facts erode the typical justification for mandates.  

Another issue is that viruses don’t die on skin contact with people who have antibodies to them or who have been vaccinated against the diseases so the vaccinated and those with natural immunity are not “dead end hosts” as is frequently claimed. Those vaccinated against yellow fever are known to be “viremic” (having detectable levels of virus in the blood) for an average of 36 days following injection with the elderly showing a longer duration of “viremia.” In other words, the vaccine sheds.  Also as mentioned above, yellow fever is most common in areas where a larger percentage of native populations are resistant to the disease to varying degrees. This further points to the fact that resistance is not a shield against transmission.  Those who are naturally resistant or those who have been successfully vaccinated may initially have lower viremia than someone symptomatically infected but may still contract and carry the disease—albeit asymptomatically— increasing the possibility that mosquitoes may “catch” the virus from humans which has been observed in the case of the very similarly transmissible dengue virus:

Abstract: Three-quarters of the estimated 390 million dengue virus (DENV) infections each year are clinically inapparent. People with inapparent dengue virus infections are generally considered dead-end hosts for transmission because they do not reach sufficiently high viremia levels to infect mosquitoes. Here, we show that, despite their lower average level of viremia, asymptomatic people can be infectious to mosquitoes. Moreover, at a given level of viremia, DENV-infected people with no detectable symptoms or before the onset of symptoms are significantly more infectious to mosquitoes than people with symptomatic infections. Because DENV viremic people without clinical symptoms may be exposed to more mosquitoes through their undisrupted daily routines than sick people and represent the bulk of DENV infections, our data indicate that they have the potential to contribute significantly more to virus transmission to mosquitoes than previously recognized.

The same concerns have been raised regarding zika transmission since the native populations within regions where the disease is endemic are mostly resistant, yet the transmission cycle between humans and mosquitoes continues at high rates.

As with most vaccine-preventable diseases, reported mortality statistics for wild yellow fever are muddled and obtuse with frequent broad claims that yellow fever kills more than 50% of those who contract it. But the latter figure only refers to the aforementioned “small percentage”—as the World Health Organization and US CDC vaguely word it— of those entering the toxic stage of the disease. That “small percentage” of cases is variously reported to between 5% and 15% of all cases, an estimated half of which may be fatal.  This is not to argue that yellow fever is a benign illness. But actual infection and mortality statistics are difficult to generate since milder cases of yellow fever— which, if anything, mostly manifest as flu-like symptoms— might never be reported in the first place.  

To the degree that mortality rates are used to justify vaccine mandates, the official muddling of rates only raises more questions about the relative safety of the yellow fever vaccine. Risks of serious adverse events from the yellow fever vaccine include anaphylaxis (from the egg protein, chicken protein and gelatin in all YF vaccine preparations and the lactose in Stamaril); vaccine associated neurotropic disease (encephalitis); and vaccine-associated viscerotropic disease (when the vaccine strain of yellow fever reverts to infectious form). The latter condition, though relatively rare, is almost always fatal.

Though most news reports on Professor Gore’s death included mention that individuals over 60 are at higher risk from the yellow fever vaccine,  a research review of adverse events from the yellow fever vaccine reports elevated risks among several groups:

Seligman evaluated risk factors for YEL-AVD [vaccine associated viscerotropic disease], and found that there was statistical support for considering risk groups elderly males, women between the ages of 19 and 34, people with a variety of autoimmune diseases, and individuals who have been thymectomized because of thymoma.30

Also as reported in a 2015 review in the scientific journal Vaccines and Immunotherapy, the highest risk of developing vaccine-induced  viscerotropic disease was found for children ages 1 to 4.

Vaccine associated viscerotropic disease rates

There have been also been case reports of autoimmune narcolepsy following yellow fever vaccination:


Narcolepsy with cataplexy is a rare, but important differential diagnosis for daytime sleepiness and atonic paroxysms in an adolescent. A recent increase in incidence in the pediatric age group probably linked to the use of the Pandemrix influenza vaccine in 2009, has increased awareness that different environmental factors can "trigger" narcolepsy with cataplexy in a genetically susceptible population. Here, we describe the case of a 13-year-old boy with narcolepsy following yellow fever vaccination. He carries the HLA DQB1*0602 haplotype strongly associated with narcolepsy and cataplexy. Polysomnography showed rapid sleep onset with rapid eye movement (REM) latency of 47 min, significant sleep fragmentation and a mean sleep latency of 1.6 min with sleep onset REM in four out of four nap periods. Together with the clinical history, these findings are diagnostic of narcolepsy type 1. The envelope protein E of the yellow fever vaccine strain 17D has significant amino acid sequence overlap with both hypocretin and the hypocretin receptor 2 receptors in protein regions that are predicted to act as epitopes for antibody production. These findings raise the question whether the yellow fever vaccine strain may, through a potential molecular mimicry mechanism, be another infectious trigger for this neuro-immunological disorder.

It’s worth repeating that the risk of developing the debilitating though less often fatal vaccine-associated neurotropic disease is many times higher than the risk of vaccine associated viscerotropic disease as the study from Vaccines and Immunotherapy also reports:

The overall rate of neurotropic disease per 100,000 doses in RS was 1.03, higher than expected. In RS [Rio Grande do Sul State, Brazil] the highest risk was for the age group from 5 to 9 years, but again confidence intervals for RRR [reporting risk ratio] were wide. Although prognosis of these cases is generally good, there is reason for concern. It should be noted that with the French vaccine, no longer in use, the rate of postvaccinal encephalitis was 3–4% in children, with few cases in adults,22 and with a neurotropic lot of 17D vaccine, used at the beginning of production of 17D vaccine, the rate was also higher in children from 5 to 14 years than in older adolescents and adults.5 Two well documented cases of neurotropic disease in newborns acquired through breast-feeding on lactating mothers vaccinated against yellow fever were reported in RS.23,24

As Malcolm Brabant found out the hard way, an over 1% rate of vaccine induced encephalitis is a statistically significant risk by all accounts.

The study published in Vaccines and Immunotherapy concludes that, though the yellow fever vaccine remains the best strategy for avoiding yellow fever, individuals should receive the vaccine only after a careful risk/benefit analysis which researchers admit is nearly impossible to undertake because, other than those with known egg allergies, no one understands why some individuals are more prone to vaccine adverse events.

Again, the evidence argues that vaccination—even for a potentially serious disease like yellow fever—should be left to individual choice since the individual carries all the risk,  the vaccine cannot be proven to protect the “herd” and may even contribute to continuing the cycle of host to host infection. 

It also seems clear that, if the public understood the risks, they might rally for updated,  safer alternative that Heidi Larson alludes to.  It would be hard to say whether science was up to the task of developing a safer vaccine for yellow fever, particularly because, as Ginger Taylor recently argued, the “liability-free vaccines” produced and distributed in the US and elsewhere carry no incentive to improve safety.

Adriana Gamondes is Contributing Editor to Age of Autism and one of the publication’s social media administrators.





Not so much

Jeanette Baigert-- the risk of dying of yellow fever is estimated at 50% of the "small number" who develop the toxic form of the disease. No one knows how small that small number actually is because the vast majority of cases are so mild they go unreported.

The article contains links to official sites reporting the above. It's always helpful to read an article before commenting on it.

Jeanette Baigert

People. This is a LIVE vaccine. It replicated in his system due to his age. The chance of dying from the disease itself is 50%!

John Stone


I fear you are locked in your own arguments: it is not alright to run a global vaccine program on deceit, and it is not alright to tell people whose lives have been wrecked that it is acceptable collateral damage. There were all sorts of questions here about how great is the risk of yellow fever and how great the risk of the vaccine, and the PTB resolve the problem and are indeed polarising it by making fraudulent claims. Frankly, they don’t care how much damage they cause providing everyone complies with the policy: we only know about Martin Gore and Malcolm Brabant because of who they were. But we and our children don’t matter in this scheme, and this must stop. Soon, if they have their way we will neither be able to refuse or even talk freely about it. It really is not our job to see it from their side.

cia parker


So when is the last time you saw or heard of someone with natural measles, chickenpox, polio, or Hib disease? I TOTALLY agree that measles and chickenpox are GOOD diseases for almost everyone to catch, preferable as children. It was a BIG mistake to prevent them with vaccines. But as to whether the vaccines worked to prevent the diseases, yes, indeedy, they certainly did, and now virtually no one gets them. The theory of vaccines is correct and it usually works in practice. The Gambia had 1,700 people out of 8,000 with yellow fever die of it in 1978. Then a massive vaccination campaign that very year. Just one case in 1979 and none since, except for the unvaxxed Belgian woman who caught it there in 2002 and died of it. You think yellow fever just totally disappeared and would have done so even without the vaccination? It was just one rogue monkey who somehow got it and gave it to the woman? And even though it continued in all the surrounding countries? You think it's MUCH preferable to agonize for a week or two with yellow fever, vomiting, diarrhea, hemorrhaging, fever, organs failing , and then die of it, rather than get the vaccine, which can cause yellow fever and death itself in something like one in 100,000 doses?

You are COMPLETELY within your rights to believe this and act upon it. But,...

cia parker


I don't think I am. You'd have to first show a large population with no vaccination and also no tetanus, diphthera, Hib disease, polio, or, in the relevant countries, no yellow fever, cholera, typhoid, Japanese encephalitis, dengue, or Ebola. If you could do that, I'd say yes, absolutely, tell people that this shows that the vaccines aren't necessary to prevent many tragic cases of disability or death, but instead cause disability and death themselves, which, of course, they do. As it is, the reason most countries have low rates of these diseases is because nearly everyone gets a number of vaccines to prevent them (the western diseases, at least). I agree that vaccines for infants, the elderly, currently sick or immunocompromised people, are dangerous and pushed, even demanded, carelessly on everyone in the relevant age groups without a thought to the consequences. And also that anyone can suffer a severe reaction at any time, even if they're not in one of the groups of most danger. And I also agree with Dr. Moskowitz that autoimmune reactions are the very way that vaccines work, in the very nature of the process.

And I agree with Barry that you can never be sure that you would have gotten the VPD even if you hadn't vaxxed. But you can compare the numbers of vaxxed and unvaxxed groups in a relevant area to see how effective and also how obviously harmful the vaccines are in some ways.

If you were to prove that without tetanus vaccination, 800 Americans a year would die of tetanus, but if almost everyone gets the vaccination (as is currently the case), it's going to cause asthma in one thousand people, even in the absence of any other vaccines, and dyslexia in ten thousand, but no tetanus, then what are you going to do? While asthma is dangerous, in most cases it is adequately controlled by drug treatment and it never causes death. In some cases even the appropriate drug treatment is not enough, and it DOES cause death at some point. Let's say that asthma will kill twenty of that group. But then you have to consider that the rates of all neurological and autoimmune diseases rise exponentially with the addition of every vaccine.

It is a complex calculation with many variables. If your main goal is to have as natural and intact an immune system as possible, then sure, refusing all vaccines will do that. You'd also have to keep your babies out of daycare, breast feed them for at least two years, preferably until self-weaning, and be very mindful of the people they are exposed to (or to their germs in supermarkets, church, etc.) And I'd recommend all this whether or not they got the vaccines. And everyone absolutely has a right to choose that route. But they also have to realize that even the healthiest lifestyle with no vaccines is not going to protect the children if there's an outbreak of diphtheria, polio, or one of the forms of meningitis there's a vaccine for, or one of the tropical diseases. Or pertussis for infants, but I'd never recommend the pertussis vaccine for anyone, but would recommend isolation of young babies and the nosode starting at one month old.

Several doctors with limited recommended vaccine schedules have testified that children getting only the shots they recommend, at their recommended age, have had no autism and little autoimmune disease. Amounts matter. Sure, on a large-scale population basis, many will probably have relatively mild vaccine reactions and a few will have severe ones, even on the limited schedule.

But if the VPDs come back if many people stop vaxxing, and once people see reports or personal cases of children who died of diphtheria, tetanus, Hib disease, yellow fever, crippled or killed by polio, disabled by rubella in the womb, then they will once again get the vaccines, at least for these diseases, and possibly, disillusioned by the broken promises given by the antivaxxers, many more of the vaccines, most of which I think are unwise and more dangerous than they're worth. I think you've got to have answers ready from the outset. This is not putting the cart before the horse, this is planning for the future.

Good sanitation does not prevent the respiratory diseases. Good nutrition helps, but many millions of well-nourished people over the centuries have died from the more serious of these diseases. As you know, I am a big believer in homeopathy and nosodes, and when their power becomes better known, and also their parameters, this will probably be the answer.

In the meantime, I read last night that Florida thinks there's a good chance that they will be seeing yellow fever outbreaks there, for the first time in a hundred years. Yellow fever has made a big comeback in South and Central America and Africa, for reasons best known to the virus itself. And from there it would spread. Nearly every state in the Union had yellow fever epidemics in previous centuries. We are nearly all fertile ground for it. So what will your recommendation be if you're 100% against the yellow fever vaccine for anyone? The massive clouds of insecticide from crop duster planes blanketing the entire country? I would be as fearful of the consequences of that as anyone, so what would the answer be? Just let nature take its course and kill many thousands with yellow fever? Save the ones with natural resistance to bequeath their genes to future generations and just let the rest go? That has always been Nature's way of handling it. I'm pretty sure that before that point is reached, nearly everyone would take the vaccine. You think that they shouldn't do that?

John Stone


You are putting the cart before the horse. Most people here have seen the tragic harm that vaccines can do, they have seen false claims made for their effectiveness and safety, they have seen the threats of diseases egregiously hyped - and we are midst of a bad culture with all sorts of false trails. Moreover, people have also been treated appallingly on a routine basis. We have no basis to trust the technology or often the reports of the disease. You can always make out a case for this or a case for that but what we really need is a profound change of culture. The culture also operates on the lie that vaccines are safe or that the benefits greatly outweigh the risks - but the instances that you are talking about are where there are substantial risks for uncertain benefits, and that is certainly not what people are told.

The WHO have overwhelming conflicting interests, they make up data, they have cried wolf far too often, they walk away from harm every day and that is the big problem.


The thing is that many VPDs can cause terrible suffering, disability, and/or death. And, of course, so can the vaccines. I don't understand how you can put yourself only on one side and then ignore the suffering that you're dismissing or ignoring. You have to learn as much as possible about both sides and then make the best decisions you can.


Sorry CIA, although many if us were sadly a little too late in catching on, most of us now know that when it comes to vaccines.... the Emperor has no clothes.

Diseases like measles, mumps, chickenpox..... NOT killers now, and never have been

Vaccine preventable diseases..... NO such thing .

Vaccine injury ...very real, very tragic, and very preventable

cia parker


The thing is that many VPDs can cause terrible suffering, disability, and/or death. And, of course, so can the vaccines. I don't understand how you can put yourself only on one side and then ignore the suffering that you're dismissing or ignoring. You have to learn as much as possible about both sides and then make the best decisions you can.

I just saw this in the Yucatan Times: "MERIDA — Yellow fever could occur in Yucatan at any time, since the state has the characteristics for the development of that disease, such as the presence of the mosquito Aedes aegypti and jungle areas, so that it should be under clinical alert, said Dr. Rusel Rodríguez Sánchez, an infectious disease specialist and immunologist at a private hospital in the city.

In that sense, he said that measures should be established to prevent the disease, such as stricter controls at the borders like checking who arrives at the state and to demand that travelers from the airport be vaccinated, especially those who come from countries with a high risk of suffering this disease, such as Brazil, Peru, Colombia and Venezuela. This measure should also apply to Yucatecans that travel to those nations, he suggested."

They've already seen a huge increase in yellow fever cases in South America in the last few years, with many deaths. How could you tell people that no matter how many people die of yellow fever, no one should ever get the vaccine? If they take your advice and die of yellow fever, you would bear a lot of the responsibility. It's not either 100% this side or 100% on the other side. Most people only want to do what's best for their health and that of their family. Vaccines are dangerous, but most people can handle a few with no apparent problems, as you saw with your children in the '60s. As everybody has seen in the vast majority of the people they grew up with. You have to take all factors into account.

I think it's interesting that it looks like if you've got aedes mosquitoes (and we do, big time) and a hot, humid climate (as much of the US does in the summer), then it is very possible that you will be getting yellow fever in your area soon. I don't think jungle per se is a requirement since most of the US had yellow fever epidemics in the past. So this discussion may soon change from theoretical to real. Would you hold fast to telling people not to get the vaccine for it no matter how much suffering and death results from the disease? I'm glad I bought the nosodes for it a couple of months ago and have them on hand already.

The books critical of vaccines used to recommend a careful risk/benefit analysis rather than a blanket refusal of all vaccines. A pristine, unvaxxed immune system wouldn't help you if you were infected. I don't think it's good that the trend has been to draw battle lines and never the twain shall meet.

susan welch

Cia, I don't really understand where you are coming from. No matter how much you write, the message is the same. 'Vaccines can be dangerous, nevertheless, some of them are really important and have saved countless lives'.

I don't see how you can have it both ways and I dispute many of your theories about the disastrous state of health before the advent of so many vaccines.

As someone born in the 1940s and having had no vaccines (my father disagreed with them, no doubt because of what he had learnt between his birth in 1902 and the birth of his 4 children), I can attest that we were all perfectly healthy and suffered only childhood illnesses which were a part of growing up then. My peers had very few vaccines and they, also, were perfectly healthy. We were not afraid of all the diseases you seem to be frightened of. In fact, ill health was never even thought of.

My children were born in the 1960s and did have a minimum of vaccines (3 I think). They also had measles, chicken pox etc., which lasted a week or so each time with no ill effects. That generation was - and is - a healthy one.

2 of my grandsons, born in the 1990s, have devastated lives because of the MMR. I have been reading everything I can since 2014 when William Thompson admitted they had tampered with the results of their research and that there was, in fact, a proven link between MMR and autism. Everything I have read leads me to believe that it is simply crazy to inject toxins into babies to make them 'healthy'. The statistics for new illnesses/disabilities (ASD, Asthma, allergies, auto-immune conditions, seizures, Chrons, ear infections......the list is seeemingly endless) which were unheard of in my childhood, surely prove that vaccines, whilst possibly reducing measles etc., are a complete and utter disaster.

As I said, I really don't see how you can be on both sides of the debate in view of the pattern of excellent health in the mid 1900s declining dramatically by the end of the century.

It seems you always seem to say 'Yes, I agree with you BUT.......'

cia parker


Thank you. I had thought that it was a different species of mosquito which transmitted malaria, but I had read something yesterday that I thought meant that aedes could transmit it as well. So now I know that it's anopheles which is the only one that transmits malaria. Are they still around in the US now? The aedes can transmit a lot of bad diseases: dengue, yellow fever, chikungunya, zika... And it wouldn't be hard to introduce them here.

I just found the page in the book I was looking for. P. 97: "The war would be won in just 113 days... it would cost more lives than ever expected. Over 2,500 American soldiers would be lost - not to the Spanish, but to disease. Only 385 would actually die in action." The reason it says disease rather than yellow fever is because "only" 2,000 died in those four months of yellow fever, while over 500 died of other diseases: cholera, typhoid, dysentery, maybe some of malaria (I realize after having put up the quotation from the website). From p. 103. In the four years before the S-A War, 16,000 Spanish soldiers in Cuba had gotten the "yellow jack," but I'd have to google it to see how many died of it.

I'll have to finish the book to see how we got rid of yellow fever in the US. I know we nuked the mosquitoes with DDT and drained swamps, but I don't think those would have been enough as there's still so much still water everywhere and the DDT didn't kill all of the transmitting mosquitoes. And aedes doesn't require standing water to breed anyway. And I'll have to see if the type of mosquito that used to transmit it here is still around, or if the aedes was re-introduced relatively recently.

cia parker


Yes, I agree that there are many types of vaccine damage. Also that every vaccine does some level of damage in everyone. And that some people react with autism, asthma, etc., because of epigenetic factors rather than genetic. I always say that most don't "appear" to have reacted, meaning that maybe they did, maybe it will prove to be severe, but they probably won't ever make the connection. But it's also true that most people have been vaxxed quite a few times in their lives and don't appear to have reacted. I think the concept of a spectrum and a tipping point is valuable. Everyone has his limits, but some people have the bar set much lower than others for genetic reasons. Why do so many infants in my family react to one or more infant vaccines with vaccine encephalitis, when most don't appear to do so, nor do most react with autism? We're well nourished, healthy, active, intelligent, vigorous, until we get the vaccine we react to. I was doing great, in college, stellar performance, active social and intellectual life, vital, pretty, and then I got a tetanus booster that paralyzed both arms. I don't think there was any environmental factor that put me at particular risk if I got a vaccine, I think it was genetic factors having to do with mercury. And then we react with disability.

But I still think it's important to consider what diseases you or your child might have a severe or fatal case of in your area, and decide what you want to do about it. The last shots we got were tetanus boosters in 2005: I think tetanus protection is important, but the other day we started the tetanus nosodes at the 30C level rather than get any more shots. We completed the meningococcal nosode series, because that's a rare but horrifying disease which COULD occur here. I got the pneumococcal nosode series, haven't taken it yet, and am trying to get the Hib nosode series. I think those are all potentially very serious diseases that we might get here and now. And if we went to a yellow fever zone, I don't think we'd get the shot, just the nosode, but I understand that for people not known to be in a high-risk group for vaccine damage it might be a good idea under those circumstances. Even though every vaccine presents a risk and causes harm, yellow fever itself presents an extremely high risk if you're where it could happen.

cia parker


I read it last night in The American Plague, but right now I can't find it. I just googled it and found this:

"The effect of yellow fever on armies was clear during the Spanish-American War in 1898. That brief four-month war and the occupation of Cuba afterward cost nearly 3,000 American lives. Of those, less than 400 died in combat. The rest died of disease, including 2,000 soldiers who died from yellow fever alone."



Cia Parker;
2,500 died or caught it? Are you sure? They got down in Cuba and all got sick and the generals called them an army of covalencies. I can see a bunch of Teddy Roosevelt New Englanders having a problem; Even if it was only a 10 week war.

Anyway, there are 3,000 or more species of mosquitoes. There are a lot of mosquitoes that have the markings on the legs after all nature (evolution) (God) does seem to repeat things that work a lot in survival. I am about blind, I can't see those markings with out a stereoscope. It sure is very hard for me to tell out in the field just looking at a mosquito what it is.

One of my masters was field biology.

Yet there are plenty of mosquitoes around.

There are yellow planes in Michigan Bay area that coats the area. The health departments even in little rural place I live; the health department still sends out trucks that goes down the rural roads in the very weeeeeeee, daw, hours in the morning spraying. There are programs in which they release volumes of sterilized male mosquitos especially for the mosquitoes known to carry diseases. They also have a program to spread certain types of pathogenic mosqutio fungi and bacteria. There are programs that raise and release Dragon fly/ and Damsel fly larva are vicious little things that eats mosquito larva too.

Aedes aegypti mosquito does not carry malaria by the way, just a small point cause you are right about them carrying zika and yellow fever. .
Aedes aegypti is a sub tropical and tropical mosquito, It however can range into the temperate regions depending on if there are unusual warm weather patterns, or very wet flood areass. You mentioned that some year in the great past yellow fever ranged all the way up to the state of Ohio, and into the northern parts of the Great Dismal Swamp.

And the point here; ? Nothing. I am still thinking there are a lot of missing information in hysterical reckonings of history.

John Stone


No, it wasn't about yellow fever, it was a response to:

"But it's still the case that most people get vaccines and seem to have no reaction. Even now, most children get a lot of vaccines and not more than one in 36 American children reacts with autism. So what's the difference between the ones who do and the ones who don't react with autism? I think it's obviously a genetic difference in most cases."

cia parker


Was your comment in reference to the yellow fever vaccine? I recognize that it is often dangerous to vaccinate someone who is battling any kind of infection, or who is in poor physical condition for other reasons. I would recommend not taking babies or young children to a yellow fever country and not have to worry about getting the vaccine or not. If it is imperative that they go, or if they live in such a country to start with and it has active yellow fever, the parents would have to research the issue very carefully. But ultimately it would be a gamble. But yellow fever is much more serious than measles, chickenpox, mumps, hep-A, or rotavirus, and so it would be appropriate to be willing to take more of a gamble to prevent it. What do you think a family in the Congo should do if ten of their nearest neighbors had just died of yellow fever, but you have a nine-month old baby in the house? I picked that age because it is the minimum recommended age for vaccination. And I'm not saying that they should definitely get it, it WOULD pose a greater risk to a baby. But I'm not saying they should not, assuming that their family was exposed to mosquitoes in the area as much as everyone else. It would have to be a personal decision based on facts on the ground.


I have discussed all the issues you mention in the past, and still. Why don't you want to consider the question at hand raised by this article, which is when it is wise to take the yellow fever vaccine despite the fact that the vaccine is even more dangerous than most? The disease is much more dangerous than most, which affects the risk/benefit analysis. Do you want to ignore the need to consider what to do about an extremely serious and often fatal disease which would continue to be very prevalent in the world without the vaccine? Isn't that like pro-vaxxers being willing to ignore the vaccine-damaged because they think it is much more crucial to prevent the VPDs?

Hans Litten

Posted by: cia parker | January 21, 2019 at 07:05 PM

You never talk about the mumps efficacy trial in court right now ?
Which completely invalidates the mmr vaccine.

You never talk about William Thompson ?
Which completely invalidates the mmr vaccine.

You never talk about Zimmerman ?

You never talk about the Aaby findings ? DPT

You never talk about the tetanus vaccine in Kenya 2015 HCG ? Oller
Which completely invalidates all vaccines.

You never talk about Gardasil and the Gayle Delong paper ?
Which completely invalidates all vaccines.

You never talk about the Flu vaccine and miscarriages ? 4250%

You never talk about any of the aluminium or themiserol or Poly80 ingredients ?

You never talk about the contaminants ? Gatti findings
Why don't you CIA ?

2032 50% of all children and 80% of all boys. Which children will be fine ?
There will be none

Every vaccine harms - Every time .

CIA I am happy to talk about all of these subjects, but lets see you sidestep this direct question ?

John Stone


Isn’t the point about epigenetic harm (which is environmental) rather than genetic determination, but there might also be other environmental and health factors that could dispose infants to harm not least obliviousness to their health when vaccinated. From memory in the Le Baron MMR study 2006 24% of toddlers were definably unwell at the time of vaccination - but they just banged on. Then 6 in 100 children got a temperature of 39.5c or more! But I think we can also see from Anne Dachel’s indefatigable efforts that children are very damaged now irrespective of whether they have a diagnosis of ASD. Just some thoughts.

cia parker


You said that yellow fever was conquered in the US because we got rid of the mosquitoes. A year and a half ago, there were huge swarms of mosquitoes every time I took the dog out to throw Frisbees for her. I was constantly slapping my legs and arms and killing a number of them every time. When I looked closely at them, they had striped legs and spotted bodies. I googled it and learned that we now have the aedes aegypti mosquito, capable of carrying yellow fever, malaria, and zika, all over the Midwest. A relatively new thing, they were stowaways on ships from Asia not that long ago. So if someone unvaxxed were to enter the US from a yellow fever country, he had caught yellow fever but was still in the incubation stage, and a mosquito bit him, then it would be easy for the mosquito to then give it to other people. It may be that if a lot of people refuse the vaccine, they'll have to put them in quarantine before letting them enter this or another country. Since it hasn't happened yet, it's probably not that likely to happen, but I think it's totally conceivable. I just read that about 250 American soldiers were killed in the Spanish-American War, but about 2,500 of them died of yellow fever. Just something interesting to think about.

cia parker


But it's still the case that most people get vaccines and seem to have no reaction. Even now, most children get a lot of vaccines and not more than one in 36 American children reacts with autism. So what's the difference between the ones who do and the ones who don't react with autism? I think it's obviously a genetic difference in most cases. But everyone has his tipping point, maybe one can get seven vaccines without apparent effect, but with the eighth he has a severe adverse reaction. Others can only get three before they react.. And then there are those like me and my daughter who had severe reactions to our first infant vaccine.

And I think there's a point of stability: if they don't increase the vaccine schedule and the number of vaccines given remains roughly the same, then I don't think the autism rate will continue to increase. Of course it's too high now, they should absolutely let parents get or refuse the vaccines they choose.

cia parker


But almost 100% of those you see around you every day have gotten many vaccines. Most of them seem to have had no reaction. I can't speak for you, but I got a tetanus booster when I was nineteen which paralyzed both my arms starting the same day, and was later diagnosed with sometimes paralyzing MS. Most people got even mercury-containing tetanus boosters without such a reaction. I had reacted to the DPT at three months old with screaming syndrome etc. My brother reacted to it with beating his head on the bars of his crib. It caused Asperger's in both of us. His son reacted to infant vaccines with Asperger's, allergies, and asthma. My daughter reacted to the hep-B vaccine at birth with screaming syndrome and autism. She reacted to the DTaP booster at 18 months with losing her language, diagnosed with autism two months later. My father reacted to a flu vaccine with losing his language for a month and paralysis. My mother reacted to the diphtheria vaccine with bowel disease and Asperger's. She reacted to the flu vaccine with Alzheimer's. Most people can get vaxxed to the hilt without suffering any such reactions. I think it's obvious that we have a genetic predisposition to vaccine reactions. I'll never put myself in a position to need the yellow fever vaccine, but I think that those in danger of the disease should give it serious consideration.

I agree. I read more in The American Plague this morning, detailed descriptions of many horrible deaths of extremely good and dedicated people from yellow fever. At the end there is information on where many of them are buried in Memphis or in Cuba. It's real. The vaccine is effective, but it is even more dangerous than many vaccines. So you have to do a careful risk/benefit analysis before putting yourself in a position of needing it, and feel thankful that you don't live in a yellow fever zone. But of course I agree that there have been many lies and abuses of the vaccination issue which should absolutely be addressed. And everyone must have the absolute right to get or refuse any and all vaccines. I've also read about the huge numbers of men who went to work on the Panama Canal and literally dropped like flies from yellow fever.

Angus Files

I think that's the case for you as well.

Zero to do with genes .Vaccines they kill all or injure all simple as that.Toxic waste in a needle. If they have to go to the trash its toxic waste-but not if injected into a pregnant mother -or given to a newborn baby? and why do you constantly try to tie homeopathy along with vaccines they are chalk and cheese.One kills -(vaccines)nearly all the time the other (homeopathy) has never killed. Example;Mother Teresa and Hitler are saviours of the world- thats what your vaccine/homeopathy morphology reads as total Alice in Wonderland.

Pharma For Prison



My 1960s-1970s school libraries contained decades-old books predating pharma’s warped grip on media. I am inclined to believe their horrifying stories of yellow fever, which struck about 85% of Panama Canal workers. Back then one of my relatives was stationed at Fort Gulick in the Canal Zone; it appears that his vaccine caused him no harm.

But it’s also horrifying that society allows vaccine developers to ignore consumers’ reports of adverse reactions, thus avoiding the effort and expense of additional research. Courts of law force the guilty to look at their victims. Legislation is needed to force vaccine developers and government policymakers to end their hit-and-run policy and start investigating vaccine injuries for treatment and prevention of future adverse reactions.

Hans Litten


"it is obvious that our family has genetic factors which make vaccines even more dangerous than usual for us, and I think that's the case for you as well. "

Seneffs Autism projections are 50% of all children by 2032 and 80% of all boys.
And its my understanding we are perfectly on track to achieve those figures.
South London is recording Autism at 10% with 25 vaccines in play (not 75 like the US).
250 more various vaccines in the pipeline waiting to come online too.
As far I can I have ever heard zyklonB had a 100% efficacy in fatality.
So you can pick the genetic susceptibility out of those numbers if you want?

cia parker


By peripheries I meant that we were only going to the Maya Riviera and Coast next year for a couple of weeks, and so are unlikely to be exposed to a tropical disease other than maybe dengue. Mexico has taken many measures to prevent things like yellow fever and cholera. But I'm deeply interested in the issue of tropical diseases and how to prevent and treat them. And I'm also deeply against the profligate use of vaccines. Neither I nor my daughter, as long as I can protect her, will ever get another vaccine: it is obvious that our family has genetic factors which make vaccines even more dangerous than usual for us, and I think that's the case for you as well.


I've just gotten to the part of The American Plague where Carlos Finlay is introduced. His father was Scottish, but he was shipwrecked in the Caribbean, rescued, and met the local girl he married. He had a stutter, but was fluent in four languages, and he liked to speak different languages at each meal. And I read that in the 1878 epidemic, the worst which has ever affected the Americas, among those who got the fever, mortality was 70% among whites, but only 8% among blacks, which was higher than the usual mortality among blacks. They speculate that it may have been that a novel strain of the virus had just been imported by ship from Africa, since the epidemic behaved similarly in Cuba and Brazil. And they speculate that blacks had partial protection from having contracted mild cases of the disease when they were growing up. But whites would have similarly been exposed, but still had an extremely high death rate. It may be that there's some genetic protection factor which varies by race, the way that there's a gene in many blacks which protects against malaria, but causes sickle cell anemia when two carriers both give the gene to their child.

I read Albion's Seed years ago, about the four different types of migration from Europe which created the modern US. Blacks in the north had extremely high mortality from respiratory diseases, while whites tended to have extremely vigorous health in the bracing cold climate of the north. While whites in the South had extremely high rates of dying from many kinds of feverish diseases, many originating in Africa, which blacks had much more protection from and low mortality.

I don't think the dangers of yellow fever have been hyped. It is an extremely serious disease which continues to have very high mortality when it occurs. It has been eliminated from the US at this time, I assume by draining swamps, but I'm not sure that's the whole explanation. I've said here that my father got malaria in Louisiana when he was twelve. He lived right next to the Mississippi River and could see the boats on it from his bedroom window. That wasn't long before Louisiana drained the swamps and eliminated malaria in the US. I think the use of DDT helped a lot in the war against both yellow fever and malaria, but I recognize that it is a very dangerous chemical, and I'm glad it's no longer used in the US. I'll continue to read about it and try to learn more, I think it's not out of the realm of possibility for some tropical diseases to resurface here.

I read yesterday that yellow fever is very close to Ebola, the viruses from the same family of filoviruses, and both untreatable (by allopathic science) and horrifyingly cruel, and that yellow fever had killed over a hundred times as many as Ebola. Many people DO get a mild or subclinical case, but that's true of both yellow fever and Ebola. Four years ago they found many people in the affected countries who had antibodies but had never gotten a clinical case of Ebola, and they used the blood from one such boy to successfully treat a couple of westerners who had gotten Ebola.

I'd still like to know why Dr. Gore got the yellow fever vaccine to start with. He was past retirement age. It seems likely that he wanted to go on vacation in Africa, but I haven't seen anything about it. He should have taken seriously the fact that increasing age increases serious reactions to the vaccine. But I think it's a very reasonable choice to get the vaccine if you're going to a place with yellow fever. I ordered a book for young teens yesterday about the yellow fever outbreak in Philadelphia in the 1790s. Alexander Hamilton got it at that time, but recovered. High mortality in a fairly northern clime. Washington and Jefferson hightailed it out of the area to try to avoid getting yellow fever. In the 1878 epidemic, which affected most countries in the Americas, in Memphis half of the 50,000 population left the city as soon as the first case was announced in August. And that epidemic ended the migration of most Europeans to the South: instead they usually went to the North. My great-grandmother and great-grandfather immigrated from Prussia and London in the 1870s, before that huge epidemic (but there was a big one in 1873 as well, and earlier).

Angus Files

Why didn't Martin Gore take the time to look into the claims we have been making for all these years ? Why isn't someone like him, investigating an injection fully prior to submitting to it ?
The doctors themselves are not doing the work to search for the truth, just taking the ridiculous claims at face value (safe and effective = unsafe and defective).

Probably all to distracted and thinking about what they are going to spend the ill-gotten pharma dirty cash on. Most Drs in the UK after graduation are up to the euyes in debt then they need somewhere to live etc etc ...the phamster wheel.

Pharma For Prison



Cia Parker;

Here you have the experiments of Finlay and Reed showing that yellow fever is carried by a certain specie of mosquitoes.

Which meant after the fact there are more experiments involving the manipulation of nature. Who knows what Lazear was really working on. I do remember something about him, in our studies. He wrote his wife and told her he was really on track of a real germ, or something like that. He was working with the germ.

Yes, Yellow fever at one time was everywhere, up by the Potomac river. It was at some sort of fort that it was observed that the soldiers that liked to walk on trails close to the river came down with yellow fever. At first they thought they were drinking the river water before they decided it was water borne insect bites instead.

The United States decided early on, to control the mosquito populations.

Belgium woman that died horribly; some one from Tennessee: again the CDC said 10 from USA, and Europe in 50 years even came down with yellow fever, but never said they died. We could track that down and try to get to the bottom of all of that, but as Barry said ----

It is easy to scare us when it comes to disease. Polio seems to be the real deal striking here and there so unexpected, all because some common stomach viruses started behaving in horrible ways.

How do we begin to really understand infectious diseases, and stop the rise of autoimmune diseases, and other vaccine injuries would mean to understand real history and not some hyped accounts.

Hans Litten

Posted by: Angus Files | January 21, 2019 at 02:45 AM

This is obviously not the plan, to kill a person outright a few hours after it being administered.
When this happens, the criminothorities have a problem containing the negative feedback.
The plan is a slow coordinated ordered cumulative mass poisoning to hasten a whole populations decline & demise. A little bit of aluminium & mercury, they'll never notice the subtle change.

But you have to ask how a world renowned leading cancer expert didn't have curiosity about him to investigate the claims we have been making for 25+ years ?
Why didn't Martin Gore take the time to look into the claims we have been making for all these years ? Why isn't someone like him, investigating an injection fully prior to submitting to it ?
The doctors themselves are not doing the work to search for the truth, just taking the ridiculous claims at face value (safe and effective = unsafe and defective).

Angus Files

" I'm glad we're only flirting with the peripheries of the tropical disease question,"

Nope I live the life, as the boxers say "I talk the talk and walk the walk"this is no game or topic of academic snobbery.The facts are clear ALL Vaccines kill and maim to a greater or lesser effect.

Pharma For Prison


cia parker


Jesse Lazear died. It was very interesting, Dr. Reed wasn't there at that time, and no one took seriously the idea that yellow fever could be spread by mosquitoes. So they were careless, thinking it was all a joke. Lazear felt guilty because he had put mosquitoes on a volunteer called Dean, everyone joking and laughing about it, then Dean got a serious case of yellow fever. No one knows exactly how Lazear got it, he must have put the fatal mosquito on himself.




" .... So what do you think accounts for the fact that 8,000 people were diagnosed with yellow fever in The Gambia in 1978, 1,700 died of it, so the government successfully vaccinated almost 100% of the population, and there was only one more case of yellow fever diagnosed, in 1979?..."

“If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings.”

― Leonardo Da Vinci

I used to believe everything that authorities told me. Until I helped bring a perfectly healthy child into this world. A child that I later brought into a doctors office, and physically restrained while the doctor injected the vaccines that ultimately disabled him for life. Before he was even old enough to walk.

The people who produced the yellow fever info that you so fervently defend, are the same people who contend that vaccines are completely safe, and do not cause autism.

My life experience has definitely taught me otherwise. And that's why I no longer regard anything that they infer, as having any basis whatsoever in fact. Much less science.

You're free to believe whatever you want. But don't expect me to believe it, just because it has come from a source that you regard as a 'trusted authority'.

Do me once, shame on you. Do me twice, shame on me.


If one soldier died in Finlay's experiment then it is just one more untruth written in my text books.

Just add it to that growing long list I already have.

cia parker


I'm sorry, I made a mistake. I found the book The American Plague, but there was no fever chart in it. I checked out a library book on yellow fever at the same time I read The American Plague, and it must have been in that. The one who died was Jesse Lazear, not in Reed's group of volunteers, but in the same place in 1900. And I even found his fever chart, but I don't remember what the book was.



While I was leafing through the book I have, I noticed this, p 74: "The 1878 epidemic had stretched from Brazil to Ohio. In the following months, the final death toll in the Mississippi Valley would prove to be 20,000 lives and the financial loss close to $200 million. Two hundred communities in eleven states had been hit by the fever. ..The toll on human life in Memphis alone surpassed the Chicago fire, San Francisco earthquake, and Johnstown flood combined. It was being called by some the worst urban disaster in American history. Over 5,000 lives were lost in Memphis, nearly a third of the population that remained in August of that year."

cia parker


I also wouldn't want to be bitten by a mosquito carrying yellow fever, dengue, malaria, or chikungunya, etc. But I don't think it makes much difference how you're nursed if you get it. Assuming that your basic needs are met. It's probably the luck of the draw how bad a case of yellow fever you get, and I think it probably depends on the virulence of the particular strain of the virus you get. How much of a viral load the particular mosquito was carrying. Maybe genetic factors in the individual as well. Certainly things like age and previous health.

That book I mentioned yesterday, An American Plague, spent the first half of the book describing a terrible epidemic of yellow fever in the South in the 1870s, focusing on how it affected Memphis, Tennessee. Horrendous. The second half of the book talks about Dr. Walter Reed and his efforts to figure out what caused yellow fever. It describes what you mention, letting some volunteers be bitten by yellow fever carrying mosquitoes and then waiting to see what happened. I'm going to look for the book, but I remember that one healthy young soldier volunteered, got yellow fever, and the book had the fever and heart rate chart from his case. He had fever, it went down for a day or so, and then it came back (again, that's a very bad sign, and about half the cases in which that happens, die.) I'd like to look at it again, but I remember that the fever was very high, then it started going down on the chart and I was hoping he'd survive, but then it kept going down, his heart rate got slower, and he died. I was shocked. I thought that a healthy young soldier could overcome yellow fever, despite having read of dozens of fatal cases earlier in the book. I would have thought the healthy fourteen-year old girl in Angola would have recovered, and the man in Minas Gerais, Brazil, a couple of years ago. I looked at the photos: his widow was holding a photo from their wedding, probably in the '70s from her long straight hair on her wedding day. That's just a tiny handful of cases, but they humanize the situation.

I agree with you about measles. I got measles, chickenpox, and rubella as a child. The doctor said I had the worst case of measles he had ever seen, but I don't know what that meant. I wasn't hospitalized. All three of them are very beneficial to get for the vast majority in the long run. I would like for Cecily to catch measles and mumps, I'm sure that she would recover from them just fine and have a better-trained immune system for life. Of course for a small percentage of the whole population in First World countries, even these beneficial diseases can be dangerous or fatal, but I'd still rely on sensible treatment and take our chances with these diseases. I agree that the measles hysteria generated by the allopathic establishment is ridiculous and self-serving.

Tropical diseases are another story. While many get subclinical or mild cases and recover, the numbers of those who get severe or fatal cases are such that you'd have to consider your options very carefully if you lived in or visited a tropical country where the diseases occurred. I didn't know that yellow fever had been so uncommon in Brazil for several decades that not many people had gotten the vaccine in that time. Then it came back several years ago, and about 80% of people got the vaccine. I think it's important to be flexible and stay well informed as to facts on the ground. Refuse the vaccine if yellow fever is quiescent, but consider getting it if it comes back in your area. I was just thinking about the Belgian woman who died in The Gambia in 2002. She probably thought that there was no yellow fever there at that time, but it turned out that the disease was still present in the monkey vector, but no human had gotten it there in decades because that was the only country that had made a huge and successful effort to give nearly 100% of the population the vaccine.

So I think the moral is to research disease incidence where you're going, but also consider things like the monkey vector and possibly high vaccination rates, and take tropical diseases a lot more seriously than you'd need to take most diseases in the First World.


I agree with you. You'd absolutely have to take into account the vested interests of the WHO and all government and NGO agencies. I'm glad we're only flirting with the peripheries of the tropical disease question, planning to visit the Yucatan in the dry season. However, we ARE planning to visit Punta Laguna near Cobá and hire a villager to take us on a guided tour of the monkey reserve there. Many spider and howler monkeys living free in the jungle there. I think it would be interesting for us to see. We're going to take nosodes for dengue, malaria, typhoid, and yellow fever. I was surprised to learn that malaria has made a comeback in many states of Mexico. Yellow fever is very rare, but occasionally occurs.


Cia Parker;
A reply to you.
I would prefer not to bitten by a mosquito carrying yellow fever. I wonder how much a mosquito can carry and if it takes more than one or two or a dozen mosquitos?

But if I did and did get yellow fever; I would hope to be well feed, and in a warm dry shelter.

That said.
You are going to these sites and coming away with all this information and saying it is yellow fever for God's sake!!!!!!

Just several observations from me who also was born after the that time and am also capable of reading and well; I cut my teeth on all those stories as a young person. I majored in microbiology BS, two masters.

Reed and Finlay proved their theory that yellow fever was carried by mosquitos by putting soldiers in shelters that did contain the mosquitos and did not. If yellow fever was such a horrendous disease then either Reed and Finlay for fiends and mad scientists, or it was really thought of in that day as just one of those diseases that makes you sick, and you get better. All the soldiers that came down with yellow fever in this experiment did get better.

That said: What are your thoughts on how death stats that are collected on flu in this country each year?

Age of Autism have published wonderful, thought provoking, eye opening stuff on that right here on this website. Could it be so for a lot of other diseases as well? So you have to look at your stats in these third world country and wonder, were the malnourished, or cold, or in places in wince they would have caught yet another disease (two or three at the same time) because of no clean water, or wading in water with parasites wiggling themselves into their bare feet and on and on.

And I would like your thoughts on this:
I did have measles, rubella, and mumps as a child along with all my classmates. No big deal. Yet, today if I mention measles to any young health professional there is a rather astonishing (to me) reaction of just how deadly it was? Have you noticed.

And your thoughts on this third thing I would be interested in would be this quote from wiki on measles. Don't measles sound like just one horrible disease? Has this been done to other diseases?

"In 2011, the WHO estimated that 158,000 deaths were caused by measles. This is down from 630,000 deaths in 1990.[70] As of 2013, measles remains the leading cause of vaccine-preventable deaths in the world.[11] In developed countries, death occurs in one to two cases out of every 1,000 (0.1–0.2%).[71] In populations with high levels of malnutrition and a lack of adequate healthcare, mortality can be as high as 10%. In cases with complications, the rate may rise to 20–30%.[72] In 2012, the number of deaths due to measles was 78% lower than in 2000 due to increased rates of immunization among UN member states.[19]
Reported cases[73][74][75][76][77][78]
African Region
Region of the Americas
Eastern Mediterranean Region
European Region
South-East Asia Region
Western Pacific Region
Even in countries where vaccination has been introduced, rates may remain high. Measles is a leading cause of vaccine-preventable childhood mortality. Worldwide, the fatality rate has been significantly reduced by a vaccination campaign led by partners in the Measles Initiative: the American Red Cross, the United States CDC, the United Nations Foundation, UNICEF and the WHO. Globally, measles fell 60% from an estimated 873,000 deaths in 1999 to 345,000 in 2005.[79] Estimates for 2008 indicate deaths fell further to 164,000 globally, with 77% of the remaining measles deaths in 2008 occurring within the Southeast Asian region.[80] "

Angus Files

that should read gladly go unvaccinated....

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Send me up the jungle for two years Ill gladly go vaccinated.The pharma phantasy scare stories don’t bother me the natives have survived for thousands of years without medelling pharma.As you know see its population control simple as that. Your chronology of what happens when there is an outbreak is wrong-its usually WHO sends the murdering vaccinators first for the better good of pharma. And as if by pharma posion magic... theres a documented outbreak .They then start vaccinating in Ernst.Then you get the pandemic usually just after being given a billion dollars from the US tax payers. But call me yellow if you want - as soon as WHO arrives I`m on the first banana boat home before I get a mutated yellow fever illness. Ill take all the malaria -yellow fever-ebola no worries but not the vaccinated mutated strains that’s used for population control.

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cia parker


Forgive me, but it's really not good enough to deny that there were 8,000 people diagnosed with yellow fever in The Gambia in 1978, with 1,700 deaths from it, but only one case in 1979 after a massive vaccination campaign, with one death in The Gambia in 2002 from yellow fever in an unvaxxed Belgian tourist. This is concrete official data. If you say that nothing said by any official about anything is valid, then you need to provide your evidence for it, and it's not sufficient to say that because officials lied or were sorely mistaken about --- on the occasion of ---, that that is proof positive that nothing they ever say is true. Please give your evidence that it is NOT true that many died of yellow fever in Minas Gerais, Brazil, two years ago, and in Angola in 2016, and in dozens of countries in west Africa and the Amazon basin thousands of times in recent history.

Of course you are free to think and do as you like. Of course the vaccine train got totally out of control many years ago, and has ruined the lives of millions, including those of me, my daughter, and both my parents. But I think it's also necessary to put yourself in the place of other people living in other places. And also necessary to evaluate the ideological background of all authorities. Of course the allopathic worldview is limited and deeply flawed, but millions adhere to it as their religion and its physicians and researchers are widely regarded as infallible gods. But it's also true that there are many in the anti-vax community whose ideology is also limited and flawed, but many of its spokesmen, like those in the allopathic community, have built their careers on a single meme. Either that of "Vaccines are great, almost 100% safe and effective, and absolutely necessary to save millions of lives," or "Vaccines are always extremely dangerous, never effective, never life-saving, and no one should ever contemplate getting a single one." There is a lot of money to be made on both sides. Forrest Maready has another term which I think is a good one: skeptie-vax. I think that attitude and lifestyle are the wisest: Avoid vaccines whenever possible, but be open to getting a vaccine (or the nosode) in the case of those diseases which are the most dangerous and a distinct possibility in your community and in your circumstances. Each individual being free to make up his own mind. And, obviously, I think that people living in an area with active yellow fever should get the yellow fever nosode if at all possible, but otherwise TAKE the chance of a severe reaction and get the vaccine. Older people and immunocompromised people living in the First World should think seriously about not going to a yellow fever country and not worry about the vaccine decision.



So what do you think accounts for the fact that 8,000 people were diagnosed with yellow fever in The Gambia in 1978, 1,700 died of it, so the government successfully vaccinated almost 100% of the population, and there was only one more case of yellow fever diagnosed, in 1979? Since then, NONE, except for the UNVACCINATED Belgian women who went to The Gambia, fed a monkey, was bitten by an mosquito carrying the virus, caught yellow fever, and died horribly of it back in Europe a couple of weeks later.

I see that as a narrative, and nothing more. A story, that someone I have never met has presenting as the gospel truth.

Assuming the narrative is even true, it's still nothing more than anecdotal evidence.

From those of us who have told our story about perfectly healthy babies being vaccinated, and soon after spiraling into an autistic state.... I just want to remind you of what we were told. Which is that anecdotal evidence is not science. In fact, it's really isn't worth shit.

cia parker


So what do you think accounts for the fact that 8,000 people were diagnosed with yellow fever in The Gambia in 1978, 1,700 died of it, so the government successfully vaccinated almost 100% of the population, and there was only one more case of yellow fever diagnosed, in 1979? Since then, NONE, except for the UNVACCINATED Belgian women who went to The Gambia, fed a monkey, was bitten by an mosquito carrying the virus, caught yellow fever, and died horribly of it back in Europe a couple of weeks later. The pretty girl in the video I posted last night caught it in Angola, which had an outbreak of it in 2016, which killed three hundred people. The girl's mother is in the video sobbing at the loss of her fourteen-year old daughter. She said the doctor recommended a drug (there IS no drug to treat yellow fever, so I don't know what she meant) and a blood transfusion, but she wasn't able to pay for them. A commenter said that if they recommended blood transfusion, that meant that she had the "black vomit" type of yellow fever, I think it's part of the liver failure which often occurs. The video shows where they lived, in a slum made of houses of corrugated metal and street dogs wandering around. In dire poverty. If the girl and the 300 people who died had gotten the vaccine, it is unlikely that any of them would have died. If the vaccine doesn't work, then why has The Gambia had NO more cases of yellow fever since 1979 (except for the unvaccinated Belgian tourist in 2002), while all the surrounding countries in West Africa continue to have them? I would say that it is clear that the vaccine works.

The vaccine is a risk, but 250,000 Americans a year who are planning to travel to South America or West Africa get the vaccine, do NOT get yellow fever, and also do not die from the vaccine. There has been a very small number of people who DO get yellow fever from the live vaccine and die. I have no information on how many report severe adverse reactions to it, but it's already worth quite a bit to get the vaccine, not die, and not get yellow fever.

You say that there is not a shred of evidence that the yellow fever or any other vaccine works, and that I am wasting your time to say that the yellow fever vaccine works. So why don't you post your evidence that the yellow fever vaccine does NOT work to prevent yellow fever?


I agree with you. I read Dissolving Illusions when it first came out and was extremely impressed by it. I was also appalled at her descriptions of the living conditions of large numbers of poor people in the slums of big cities, overworked, malnourished, crowded, and in unhygienic conditions. And appalled at the huge numbers of poor children, and older people, dropping like flies from contagious diseases. Dr. Humphries is against all vaccines now, but would she be against all of them if we STILL had a hundred thousand children a year dying of diphtheria? Etc.? It is very unwise to place anyone on a pedestal and believe as gospel fact their every word. So how does she recommend preventing the death of many thousands in tropical countries from yellow fever? Do poor people in Brazil and Africa deserve to die of yellow fever? Most of us would say they do not. However, yellow fever is not caused by poverty, but by a virus which seems to have come from monkeys in the jungle and usually transmitted by mosquitoes. They often recommend draining standing water to prevent the mosquitoes from laying their eggs in them, and not going out in the evening and early morning when the mosquitoes are most active, but when I read about aedes mosquitoes carrying zika a couple of years ago, I read that they don't need standing water and they are active all day long. So your options for avoiding being bitten by mosquitoes are limited to insecticide all the time, probably with DEET, hot mosquito nets, or avoiding the disease by getting the vaccine or a nosode.

I think everyone has to get all the information he or she can and then make a choice. There is no 100% safe choice. They need to think about the chances of an individual being exposed to a VPD in their area at their time. If it's a mild one like chickenpox or hep A in children, or a relatively mild and beneficial one like measles, or a relatively mild one except for babies (pertussis) or mild for everyone but pregnant women (rubella), or one that's very rare in children born to healthy mothers (hep B), then it would be a good idea to avoid the vaccines. Think about Hib if the baby will be in daycare, and about tetanus. If they live in a tropical country that has yellow fever, consider that vaccine. The nosodes would be better in all cases, if available. But if you live in the Amazon or West Africa and people are dying all around you with black vomit, kidney failure, and massive hemorrhaging, I think you would be very unwise to say Oh, I'm certain that vaccines are always so dangerous that I'd really rather just die of yellow fever than get the vaccine for it.

And Barry, so that you don't waste your time by reading what I write (and notice that it's been a couple of years since I replied to you), why don't you just ignore my comments?


Egypt would be a very interesting country to visit if it were safe these days. Which it's not. But it has never had much yellow fever because it's not in the jungle. What would you do if you were going to be a missionary or a Peace Corps worker in the jungle for two years, in an area with yellow fever? How about if you were already there, unvaxxed, there was an outbreak, people were dying, and the WHO sent staff with the vaccine, but everyone just looks blankly at you when you ask if the nosode is available?

Angus Files

David agree with all you write and share the sentiment were not a one man inquiry team on here. The good Dr gets my 100% support. I have used HP and it worked for us for what it was used for, so far as we can tell. There is the study below from 2014 which I think shows without doubt that HP works on quite a few.

Homeoprophylaxis: Human Records, Studies and Trials

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Angus Files

Cia its very simple as with other areas of mass vaccination viral transmission goes up not down and has been well documented to occur with live virus polio and varicella (chicken pox) vaccines. And the CDC acknowledges that the possibility exists with other live virus vaccines, including the MMR and flu. When will they ever,ever put just one of their pharma vaccine poison’s out for independent scrutiny? What would I do you must know the answer to that one I have been to Egypt and had no vaccines despite all the unmerited pharma .gov scare mongering and infact was the only one on the whole boat cruise not to have “gippy tummy”

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cia parker

I just saw this video on Youtube about an outbreak of yellow fever in Angola in 2016: three hundred people died of it, including the pretty girl who had just turned 14 that you see at the beginning of the video. There's also a boy who has the whites of his eyes bright yellow from jaundice, the reason they call it yellow fever. I think it's good to see the human face both of the victims of contagious disease and of vaccine damage. Both are real and tragic.


cia parker


But for those living or spending time in countries with endemic yellow fever, there are dangers on both sides. I agree that every vaccine is dangerous, more dangerous to some than to others. But yellow fever is a flagrant case of an extremely dangerous disease kept in check by the vaccine. If it is not widely used in those countries, then thousands die of yellow fever. If it is widely used, then they don't, at least not the vaccinated ones. What would you advise people living in a yellow fever zone to do? Taking the nosode would be the best idea, but if it weren't readily available, while the vaccine was? Yellow fever is related both to dengue and to Ebola: horrifying.

And I found this. More Americans than I thought get the yellow fever vaccine every year. "Martin Cetron, MD, an author of the CDC report, says more than 250,000 doses of the (yellow fever) vaccine are dispensed in the U.S. each year." I assume that that's how many people get it before traveling to tropical areas of South America or Africa.


As for your question of how a vaccine can be both dangerous and beneficial at the same time, please read my comments again. In 1978, 1,700 people in The Gambia died of yellow fever, out of 8,000 diagnosed with it. They very quickly mounted a universal vaccination campaign which succeeded in vaccinating almost 100% of Gambians. After that, there were NO cases diagnosed of yellow fever, and, obviously, no deaths from it.


I realize that you have an unwavering belief in the efficacy of vaccines. And that you're somehow able to square that, with knowledge of the fact that they occasionally KILL the odd recipient.

But as far as I can tell, there there is no proof whatsoever that this, or any vaccine has ever prevented a disease of any kind. And unless you're able prove me wrong , then you really need to stop wasting my time.

David Weiner

Angus Files,

I respect Dr. Humphries' opinions on vaccines. I have her books and have listened to some of her lectures. I appreciate all of the good work that she is doing.

But I am disappointed that she has discounted homeoprophylaxis so casually. I think that HP could be an integral part of an initiative to transition our society away from vaccines into something much safer (for those who feel like they need to use something to protect against specific infections).

Now I am not looking to beat up on her. No single person can do it all or get everything right. But I do believe that we should have SOME people who are in a leadership role in our movement who should be promoting HP. But, as Cia Parker points out, there is opposition to HP even in the homeopathy community (and I have seen this firsthand) and that is really a shame.

Angus Files

David Weiner

I found this from Dr Suzanne Humphries and how right she is
booting the pharma junk science to the trash can where it belongs.

Suzanne Humphries on Vaccine Safety
Like many anti-vaccine “experts” who are doctors, Suzanne Humphries is practicing well outside her area of expertise.

“I have been studying vaccines for the last three years of my life when it came up in my professional life, and my current opinion about vaccinations is that they’ve never been safe. Never has there been a safe vaccine. Never will there be a safe vaccine, and it is not possible to have a safe vaccine.”

Never been a safe vaccine?

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cia parker

I just found this on an epidemic of yellow fever in Minas Gerais and surrounding states in Brazil in 2017. Yandex is a super search engine. After finding thousands of monkeys dead of yellow fever in the jungle, people started getting yellow fever. At the outset about 30% had been vaccinated: vaccination hadn't been common or sought for in many decades, reasonable since the disease was not common, but after many humans died of it, many stood in line for three hours to get the vaccine, and around 80% were vaxxed. This is an interesting article with photographs of a family affected by it. I think if you lived in an area with an outbreak of yellow fever, it would be reasonable to get the vaccine, although the nosode would be preferable and safer.


cia parker

I got interested in the Westerners who have died recently of yellow fever and googled it with Yandex. I found that the last diagnosed case in The Gambia was in 1979, shortly after they had undertaken the massive vaccination campaign after having had eight thousand cases and 1,700 deaths in 1978. I also found that The Gambia was/is the ONLY west African country which has tried to vaccinate 100% of its population, so yellow fever continues to occur in these other countries.

I looked up specifically the Belgian who died of it in 2002. It was a 47-year old woman who had gone to The Gambia with her thirteen-year old son for a week-long vacation, arriving on November 1. Neither she nor her son had taken the vaccine. They toured several places and she reported having fed a monkey at one of them. She became ill on November 7 and they returned to Europe (the Netherlands, I think) on November 8, where she was hospitalized at two different hospitals and yellow fever was diagnosed. Her fever went down but then came back (bad sign) and she died of it in about another week. She had been diagnosed with Crohn's disease at 20, and had had a colostomy in 1996. So she was immunocompromised to start with. There's really no moral here, just facts to consider. I guess the moral is that someone in her condition shouldn't have been traveling in Africa to start with. Lake Garda would have been better. And also that Dr. Martin Gore shouldn't have been contemplating going to a place where he would be exposed to yellow fever. I also found something indicating that ten Westerners had been reported as getting yellow fever from the vaccine: eight of them died of it. But before deciding that you want to travel to a place with yellow fever but not get either the allopathic or the homeopathic vaccine/nosode, you would have to consider how many got the vaccine with no apparent reaction and also no yellow fever. If possible, how many have gotten the same batch of vaccine you're thinking of getting and how many got it without incident. (Doubtless, hard to do.) Beyond that, if it's a place with endemic yellow fever, it might not be very relevant to consider how many got yellow fever there if a large proportion of them had been vaccinated.


"Yellow fever vaccine is regarded as one of the safest attenuated virus vaccines, with few associated side effects or adverse events [2]. However, cases of hemorrhagic fever associated with yellow fever 17D substrain vaccination have recently been reported from Brazil (2 cases, both of which were fatal) [15], the United States (4 cases, 3 of which were fatal) [16], and Australia (1) fatal case) [17]. Three other cases (2 of which were fatal) were not described in detail in the literature [18]."

cia parker


It is ALWAYS the case that when you get ANY vaccine there's no way you'll ever know if you would have gotten and been severely affected or killed by the disease if you hadn't gotten the vaccine. As for your question of how a vaccine can be both dangerous and beneficial at the same time, please read my comments again. In 1978, 1,700 people in The Gambia died of yellow fever, out of 8,000 diagnosed with it. They very quickly mounted a universal vaccination campaign which succeeded in vaccinating almost 100% of Gambians. After that, there were NO cases diagnosed of yellow fever, and, obviously, no deaths from it. On the chart I just posted of deaths from yellow fever of Westerners, I saw that there was one unvaxxed Belgian in 2001 who caught and died of yellow fever contracted in The Gambia. Meaning that the total absence of further cases in Gambians was the result of almost all of them being vaccinated against yellow fever, not because the virus had disappeared.

It's up to you to decide. If by using the vaccine you completely prevent the 8,000 annual cases of yellow fever and the 1,700 deaths, is it beneficial? Is NOT using the vaccine so beneficial that it's WORTH just condemning thousands of people a year to very painful (and preventable) deaths? Wouldn't you have to ask the people involved? Certainly ask the family members of those who died if they think it's worth getting the vaccine to prevent yellow fever even though in rare cases the vaccine itself causes yellow fever and death?

This is a PubMed chart on Western travelers who had not gotten the vaccine and got and died of yellow fever. The chart format got messed up.

Table 2
Reports of fatal yellow fever in six unvaccinated travelers, 1996–2002
Year and reference Nationality Exposure setting
American Jungle in Brazil
Swiss Jungle in Brazil
German Côte d'Ivoire
American Venezuela
Belgian The Gambia
American Jungle in Brazil

cia parker


On this timeline from an article on yellow fever in the US, I found these fairly recent cases of deaths of Americans from yellow fever:

1996 – A traveler from Brazil died of yellow fever in Tennessee.
1999 – A fatal case (non-vaccinated American tourist returning from Venezuela) was reported in California.
2002 – An American traveler died of yellow fever in Texas following return from Brazil.


The book An American Plague ended by describing the particulars of several Americans who had traveled in yellow fever zones but only became sick from it when they returned to the US and died of it in hospitals here.

So you're saying that well-nourished people have nothing to fear from yellow fever? You would be willing to stake your life on that were you to travel to a yellow fever zone? Eight thousand people all got it in the African country The Gambia in 1978 and 1,700 of them died of it, but all of them must have been malnourished and immunocompromised? Since 1978, when almost 100% of the population received the yellow fever vaccine, starting in 1978, there has been no case of yellow fever. Again, I'm against mandatory vaccination, but which is better, 1,700 lives a year (more or less) saved by the vaccine in one small country in Africa, or 1,700 lives lost because authorities are afraid to use the vaccine?

The WHO says that 170,000 people in the world got yellow fever in 2013, and 60,000 of them died of it. 35% mortality. Very few of these had gotten the vaccine. Vaccine failure from the vaccine has occasionally been reported, but it is very rare. Yellow fever mortality would have been a tiny fraction of this had they gotten the vaccine.

You have to go back quite a ways to get to an era in which many Americans got it, because most Americans never travel to a tropical country where it is still endemic. And it seems likely that the disease organism itself has become less virulent, the way the Ebola virus has done. I don't think nutritional status has much to do with how severe a case of either one of them someone gets, but rather the virulence of the particular virus contracted. Before we went to Mexico in June, I read a lot about dengue, a disease similar to yellow fever, but with lower fatality (a relative statement, dengue kills a lot, especially in its hemorrhagic form). I learned that close to 100% of residents of Acapulco have contracted dengue. Most Mexicans are well-nourished. One of the friends we stayed with in Mexico City said that her husband had traveled to Oaxaca to supervise a construction project, and he contracted dengue. She was visiting him there and she caught it as well. Both of them are very well-nourished. They contracted clinical cases of dengue and got a high fever, but fortunately both recovered without incident.

It would be very unwise to brush off tropical diseases as being something that well-nourished Americans traveling there are vanishingly unlikely to contract or die from. As always, each individual must research it and make a decision to take or reject vaccines, when available, homeopathic prophylaxis, or just try to repel mosquitoes and eat and drink only reliably sanitary food and water. Countless millions of people have gotten the yellow fever vaccine without incident, and it has saved the lives of hundreds of thousands. I personally wouldn't get it, but I don't live in a tropical country. If I did, I would have to think about it very carefully, considering a number of factors relevant to my personal situation.


".... The vaccine is very effective, but also very dangerous...."


Not exactly sure how a 'life saving' device can simultaneously be very effective.... AND very dangerous.

But I totally agree on the dangerous part, because this is a live virus vaccine. And deciding to get it is like knowingly injecting yourself with the virus .... to guard against the possibility of actually contracting it when you get there.

And since most most yellow fever infections are asymptomatic, you'll have no idea when you get there if it's working or not. In fact, you there'll be no way to know for sure that you didn't have it before you left.


Cia Parker:
Yeah, we are not talking about the common cold, we are talking about measles.
Every body that gets the measles die right? or at least go deaf.

Reading history Cia Parker is not the same as living it, or being there.
yellow fever was a real problem when digging Suez Canal, or the Panama Canal and only then were we able to achieve such wonders. Was Yellow fever that bad? Looking at the fear I see now a days about measles, gives me pause.
On the CDC website it says about yellow fever that "Most" people will not even show symptoms.
OF the few people that do show symptoms, it is more or less flu symptoms.
Only if some one has a compromised immune system will it lead to sepsis.
Sepsis is by the way the very thing that the yellow fever vaccine causes.

For the past 50 years there have only been 10 people from the United States and Europe that got yellow fever while visiting South America and Africa. That is 10 that showed symptoms, but none died.

Now was it really that bad as history loves to tell the tale? IF it was then why? Perhaps it was a different strain of yellow fever - more virulent? Perhaps there was a comorbid, second infection of something else going on? Maybe it was just all hype?

cia parker

I just read more interesting sites on yellow fever.



Yellow fever common in 42 countries in Latin America and Africa. 34 in Africa and eight in Latin America. Most of them offer routine vaccination for it. Vaccine coverage in these countries averages 43%.

"Although no human efficacy studies have been performed with yellow fever vaccine, several observations support yellow fever vaccine being protective in humans, including: 1) the reduction of laboratory associated infections in vaccinated workers; 2) the observation following initial use of the vaccine in Brazil and other South American countries that yellow fever only occurred in unvaccinated people; 3) the rapid disappearance of cases during yellow fever vaccination campaigns initiated during epidemics, and 4) the protection of rhesus monkeys against virulent yellow fever virus by neutralizing antibodies generated in response to yellow fever


"The Gambia 1978: An estimation mentioned more than 8000 cases and 1700 deaths; A reactive mass campaign vaccination covered the whole country and a vaccine coverage > 95% was obtained.
The EPI was introduced in 1979 for children > 9 months. In 2009, the coverage reported was 96%.
No native cases were reported in The Gambia after 1978."

And that's the crux of it. 1700 people died of yellow fever in The Gambia in 1978, and 8,000 were diagnosed with it. 21% fatality in those diagnosed. They gave nearly everyone the vaccine, over 95%. After 1978, NO cases originating in The Gambia were reported. Although I still think the nosode is better and safer, if you believe that it's a good thing to prevent the extreme suffering and death of many thousands a year from yellow fever (extrapolating to all 42 countries in which it is endemic), then I think you'd have to say that it's a good thing to offer them the vaccine. No force, but in those countries most people would WANT it for themselves and their children. The link above that one shows that a protective level of antibodies persists in 80 to 100% of those vaccinated for many decades after they got the vaccine, and at present it's thought that no booster is needed. And yes, the vaccine is dangerous, but the vast, vast majority of the many millions who have gotten it have had no obvious reaction. Everyone living there has to think about it and decide which they think is the greater danger.

I'd say that those over sixty shouldn't travel to these countries and then they don't even need to consider getting the vaccine. So sure, if you don't get the vaccine, you won't have a serious reaction to it, but if you live in one of these countries, if you get bitten by a mosquito which has recently bitten an infected monkey, then you stand a strong chance of getting the disease and a ten percent chance (or more) of dying of it. Horribly. Massive organ failure and internal hemorrhaging.

So no, no one should be compelled, but we're not talking about chickenpox. We're talking about yellow fever.

cia parker


I really think most people know nothing about homeoprophylaxis, or homeopathy in general. And rather than say they are completely uninformed, they often assume that if there were anything to it, of course someone as intelligent as they are would have heard of it. And it's also true that many homeopaths are completely against homeoprophylaxis, meaning using nosodes prepared from the disease pathogen to build up resistance before natural exposure, rather than remedies to treat existing symptoms. Many think that's heresy and that you should only use homeopathy for treating existing sickness. However, numerous studies in many Latin American and African countries have shown how EXTREMELY effective homeoprophylaxis is in protecting against disease. I agree with you that it is SO important and SO impressive that everyone should learn about it and try it. I, like you, am also a strong advocate of high-dose vitamin C to treat everything. But I'd have to also say that I had shingles twice last winter and once the winter before that, and used high-dose vitamin C. It seemed to greatly reduce the pain, but didn't cure it, and it still continued for several weeks each time. In October three months ago, I was starting to get a cold sore (also something I've gotten the last two winters) and starting to get shingles. I ordered the nosodes for each of them, and as soon as I took the first dose, they healed and haven't come back, quite unlike their usual course of weeks, even months, of pain and general weakness and feeling very unwell. And I'm also going to say again that many classic homeopaths are against combination remedies. However, one of our parakeets was near death from heart disease last March. After dejectedly googling to look for treatments, it occurred to me to ask the computer about homeopathic treatments for heart disease in birds, and I found the company Homeopet (Homeoanimo in its French branch, in Canada). I ordered their liquid combination remedy Heart once, then Coeur twice, when the English site seemed to stop carrying it. And it was a miracle. I put it in their water, and the next day Sprite was already much better, no longer sleeping in the day with his head tucked into his back, and starting to chirp again after weeks of silence. No longer panting when he flew, and he started to fly with his accustomed verve. I kept putting it in their water for months, unsure when to stop. I finally did stop, though, and he is still extremely well: cheerful, energetic, flying, chirping. And it's been nearly a year since he was on the edge of the grave. Saved by homeopathy. You can read reviews on their site of how different remedies cured many different pets. The remedies are for any species (I'm using some of them for me). You can see on their website what remedies are used in each combination remedy.

David Weiner

I recall Dr. Suzanne Humphries posting something on Facebook a while back to the effect that all vaccines are unsafe. I commented on it asking if she thought that way about homeoprophylaxis. I don't recall her exact response, but she was less than enthusiastic about it. I thought, and continue to believe, that it is a big mistake for our movement to not embrace it, whether or not we personally want to utilize it. I understand why the medical cartel hates homeopathy, though.

Jeannette Bishop

Regarding the spin on the risks, I suspect they are politically willing to say in this instance that those over 60 are at greater risk to reassure everyone else, and maybe I'm wrong, but I think in the U.S. at least that generation is a bit more willing to risk sacrifices asked of them by those "who always know best" in "healthcare."

But when I think of the likelihood of those over 60 already having preexisting health conditions (many due largely to vaccines IMO) that could mask adverse events from a vaccine, and how many are not prominent enough to be given serious media or other due consideration when something goes wrong if it even occurs to someone to consider the vaccine's role, and how unlikely this risk data was gathered by reliable studies prior to such "post marketing observation," and looking at what they are currently doing with the shingles vaccine cavalierly recommended for all seniors, I do wonder how dangerous this vaccine is.

And I know I can't trust any of the world's "health" institutions to provide honest data for a reasonably accurate "risk/benefits analysis."

Angus Files

Remember the only safe vaccine is one that isnt used, always folks.Dr Gore found this out the hard way..whoever the MD is that advised him and gave him that needle full of untested junk should hold their head in shame and be charged.His family have my sincere condolences.

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cia parker


If people read books like those by Dr. Isaac Golden, Kate Birch, and Cilla Whatcott, they would learn how effective homeopathic prophylaxis is, and how effective. Classic homeopathy frowns on both combination remedies and nosodes, but I personally have had huge success using both of these modalities. Study after study shows that patients treated conventionally for many diseases have a high mortality rate, while those using the homeopathic alternatives have one that's less than one percent. It's just that the idea seems very counterintuitive, although in the case of nosodes it's very similar to the principle of vaccines, just much, much more dilute and without any of the vaccine additives. The method of preparation: succussion (shaking and tapping on a hard surface) the appropriate number of times for the potency being prepared and then dilution, repeat, repeat, repeat, at the higher (stronger) potencies, leaves not a single molecule of the original substance (pathogen in the case of nosodes) left, BUT it leaves the energy of that substance in a form that the immune system can perceive and react to appropriately. In the case of the long, gradual, stair-step method of gradually ascending potencies, ultimately antibodies are formed. But if you follow the appropriate protocol, it's completely safe and harmless. A hundred years ago a terrible war was waged on homeopathy by allopathic medicine in the US, despite the fact that homeopathy was able to cure nearly all of the Spanish flu patients it treated, while allopathic medicine couldn't treat it at all and had a very high death rate. But allopathy was where the money and power were, and at that time it prevailed.

I still don't know why Dr. Gore needed protection from yellow fever. But I'd have to say that those going to an active yellow fever zone DO need protection from yellow fever. It is NOT a mild disease. If you're just going to be at a tourist resort for two or three days, you wouldn't be in much danger. But if you're going to be working with patients in the jungles of Africa or Latin America, you'd better protect yourself before you go. Dr. Gore should have considered that he was getting old and was at higher risk from the vaccines for tropical diseases, where they exist (homeopathy has them for ALL diseases, whether there's a vaccine or not). I wish I knew more about why he thought he needed it, if he had travel plans, if he thought he was still as healthy and resilient as a few short years before. Again, everyone has ALWAYS known that the yellow fever vaccine is quite dangerous. Depending on where you're going and how long you're going to be there, it MIGHT be a good idea to get the vaccine DESPITE its dangers, although taking the nosode would be infinitely better. And the severe reactions from the vaccine are said to be six times greater in those over 60. They KNEW that, so why did Dr. Gore think that didn't apply to him? And I was thinking that these days the mortality is "only" about ten percent in those who get the symptomatic disease of yellow fever, while a hundred years ago it was much higher than that. It's probably like Ebola, measles, etc., when it emerged it has close to a hundred percent death rate, but is becoming naturalized to human beings and milder when it occurs. It's in the best interests of the virus not to kill its host, but allow him to circulate, spreading the virus as he goes. Ebola has gone from mortality of well over 90% when it emerged in 1976, but is now down to an average of maybe 50%, quite a bit in only forty years.

Grace Green

Thank you for this very detailed information about a vaccine I've been trying to find out about for a long time. The risk for women between 19 and 34 was news to me. My mother was bang in the middle of that range, and my sister and I between 0 and 4, when we all had encephalitic reactions to it in 1953. This lead to autism in the two children and ME in the adult. I don't think autism and ME are specifically listed, but we now know encephalitis can result in those conditions.


Cia Parker;

From the CDC's own website:
If you want to go there. It says that from 1970 to 2015 a total of 10 cases of yellow fever were reported in unvaccinated travelers from the US and Europe who traveled to West Africa (five cases) or South America (five cases) .

That is 45 years in which 10 people (did not die of the disease) that caught it traveling to places that it is endemic.

That is like less that 1/2 of a person a year that even gets this disease.

On the CDC's own website it says "MOST" people will not even have symptoms.
For a few that do have symptoms, they are symptoms resembling the flu and it does go away in about a week. "MOST" recover.
For those that have a very weakened immune system, already ill then yellow fever may cause sepsis and they very likely will die. Sepsis is also the same thing that a vaccine will cause a person to die from too, as was the esteemed politician in New York that dies this fall too.

Since I majored in this stuff (worked more with soils, plants, and trees though) I use to read all the stuff you are going too. About all the epidemics, how many died, the heroes that came in and took control and won the battle. History is written by -- the winners as they say.

After years and years of this, we well "I" am left to wonder how much of this is true!
Is it like at a certain time in history when environmental conditions were just right that some of these diseases become really bad, and then it passes and all is back to normal?
Like the whooping cough in which deaths really spiked at one time back at the beginning of the 1900s. Small pox was not all that bad, if a person was warm and well fed, but some times there were stronger strains of small pox circulating or even another disease circulating at the same time so they got two and not one disease at the same time.

I often wonder if this is the case of yellow fever.

Angus Files


Very true, thinking about it I was duped as well and didn’t know isn’t an excuse I know. It wonders me how many times he probably had vaccines during his life, once is all it takes sometimes. One thing is for sure and shared with all our vaccine damaged kids/adults it was never meant to be like this, but hey! its for the better good, lets carry on playing pharma roulette with vaccines on other people’s family members.


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John Stone


The problems is that we live in a world of specialisation and most people - including doctors - accept that it is just someone else's field, and you accept their expertise. The fact if you looked at it closely the fault lines might appear within minutes, will not easily over-ride the social sense of how things should be, and that's what you ought to do - 'conventional wisdom' is mistaken for common sense.

"It will be convenient to have a name for the ideas which are esteemed at any time for their acceptability, and it should be a term that emphasizes this predictability. I shall refer to these ideas henceforth as the conventional wisdom."

JK Galbraith, 'The Affluent Society', 1958.

Common sense might tell us that bombarding the human body via circuitous routes with limitless cocktails of toxic substances to improve its ability to repel disease might not be wise, but it is not the conventional wisdom.

Angus Files

He wasn`t a hypocrite for sure, but for all the brains where's the common sense.Rule 1 never rely on CDC fantasy figures.

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David Weiner

Cia Parker,

I am glad that you mentioned nosodes in connection with yellow fever (and other illnesses).

I think that our movement should be doing a lot more to promote awareness of this alternative to vaccines. Without such awareness, people will always be stuck in the vaccine box, not realizing that there are other ways to protect themselves and their kids against specific infectious agents. And that is why we are fighting mandates and such.

Jeannette Bishop

Very informative compilation! Thanks, Adriana.

cia parker

I'd ask Mike Stevens if he knows why Dr. Gore thought he needed the vaccine, but he will no longer speak to me. Surely he must have been planning on traveling in Africa or Latin America, but I'd like to know more. Usually they say that tourists are at very little risk. I found that about twenty Americans who had traveled abroad had died of it here in recent decades. 80% of the unvaxxed ones all died, and one of the vaxxed ones did, while eight of the vaxxed ones survived. Dying from the vaccine happens, but it is rare. I still would never get the vaccine. It may be that Dr. Gore was like me, sort of anxious about disease, but he trusted vaccines a lot more than I do. I got nosodes for dengue, yellow fever, malaria, typhoid, rotavirus, and noravirus (Mexico City strain). We completed the graduated progression for meningococcal disease, and now we'll do tetanus and pneumococcal disease.

cia parker

I just googled yellow fever, and learned that 75-85% of those who develop symptoms have a relatively mild case and recover. Of the other 15-25%, their fever goes down and they feel better, then it spikes again and there's multiple organ failure, internal hemorrhaging, and about half of them die. I tried to find how many living in a yellow fever zone got subclinical immunity but wasn't able to find anything on it. So that's about a 10% chance of death if you get a symptomatic case. There is no specific treatment for it: it's a virus. Probably vitamin C would help, and the nosode would help treat it as well as prevent it. And there are several homeopathic remedies used to treat it: : bryonia, crotalus horridus, eupatorium perfoliatum, phosphorus. But people living or traveling in a yellow fever zone should definitely decide what they want to do to try to prevent it. The vaccine is very effective, but also very dangerous.

cia parker

I just googled it to try to find out if Dr. Gore had been planning on spending time in a zone with active yellow fever or if he were going to be exposed to it in some other way, but couldn't find anything. I don't know why he would have only been getting it at the age of 67 if he were not thinking that he had a good chance of being exposed to it. It's always been known to be a very dangerous vaccine. However, as everyone writing on this has mentioned, the disease itself is an extremely dangerous one to catch, with an extremely high mortality rate. And I'm sure everyone remembers having learned in school about the tens of thousands of workers digging the Panama Canal who died of yellow fever. I read this book when it came out probably ten years ago, about a yellow fever epidemic in the US in the 1870s which killed thousands of Americans:

Many people boarded themselves up in their houses either to try to keep it out or to keep the uninfected out, and later entire families were found inside, all members having died in agony of yellow fever. The book describes Catholic nuns who took in and cared for children with it, and basically all the children died and all the Catholic nuns died of it. The only surviving member of one family which had boarded themselves up was a child who first appeared dead, but survived and grew up to become one of the nurses who worked with Dr. Walter Reed because she was known to be immune: he realized the disease was mosquito-borne and developed the first vaccine. It's a really interesting book, and I certainly hadn't realized that yellow fever had been present in our country for a long time, or that it had killed thousands.

We're planning to visit the Yucatán next year, and I bought nosodes for many tropical diseases to take before we go, including yellow fever, which isn't common in Mexico, but sometimes occurs. I wish that Dr. Gore had taken that rather than the vaccine, especially because of his age. But, once again, it's very important to consider both the risks of the disease and the vaccine before taking any vaccine. Does anyone know why he thought taking the vaccine would be a good idea?

Hans Litten

Posted by: Bob Moffit | January 17, 2019 at 07:40 AM Thanks for the reminder

Charles Richet finishes : (clearly a man ahead of his time more than he knew)

In other words, to formulate the hypothesis in somewhat abstract terms but clear ones all the same: the life of the individual is less important than the stability of the species.
Anaphylaxis, perhaps a sorry matter for the individual, is necessary to the species, often to the detriment of the individual. The individual may perish, it does not matter. The species must at any time keep its organic integrity intact. Anaphylaxis defends the species against the peril of adulteration.

Angus Files

"incidental unconnected cause, such as sepsis"

Wash Spin Repeat-Wash Spin Repeat-Wash Spin Repeat-Wash Spin Repeat-Wash Spin Repeat-Wash Spin Repeat-
UNTIL FINALLY!! the story/white wash will have similar results...similar to..

New York State Senator José Peralta — an outspoken proponent of annual flu vaccinations — died November 22, 2018, at the age of 47 from sudden septic shock


"Our reporting, like that of several major mainstream media, was done in good faith based on the information available at that time. As of January 15, 2019, the Post and other media have reported that Peralta died naturally from “complications of acute promyelocytic leukemia.”

The Post added that “A source familiar with the ME’s determination noted that septic shock ‘was a complication directly related to the fact that he had cancer,’ noting there were likely other complications that contributed to his unexpected death.”"

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Tim Lundeen

@bob moffit

Thanks for the link to Richet's acceptance speech, fascinating. "The phenomenon of anaphylaxis was becoming of general application. Instead of applying only to toxins and toxalbumins, it held good for all proteins, whether toxic at the first injection or not."

John Stone


I believe to be stressed that the reasons we know about Malcolm Brabant and Martin Gore is because of who they were - the rest of us can go hang! I addressed Larson back in Decenber 2017:

"In an interview for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine website, Heidi Larson, founder of the Vaccine Confidence Project housed at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine:

"Yes, there are potential risks—there will always be potential risks with any medical treatment. And we don’t talk enough about that.

"Heidi, it is funny you should say that, because no one is stopping you from talking about it. For the rest of us there are people like you trying to stop us. For instance, Seth Berkley – director of GAVI – back in June was calling for so-called anti-vaxxers to be banned from social media. Now, I am sure you would not dissent from viewpoint that an anti-vaxxer is a blanket label for anyone at all who questions the vaccine program, its safety, the wider project of the vaccine lobby. Meanwhile, the program just expands – vaccines for diseases which may either not be mostly very serious, diseases which may be more serious but which you are relatively unlikely to get. But administered in gigantic clumps to infants who are increasingly diagnosed with developmental disabilities.

"And people like us – who are often people who have experienced the harms of vaccines – are really just the people you should be keen to listen to, instead of treating us like scientific specimens, or the objects of loathing to be wiped out as voices on the web. You cannot have a conversation without having a conversation, you cannot put yourself up as some kind of honest broker when what you are really doing is just trying to annihilate dissent.

"We have seen this gambit so many times before, but what it comes down to is preparedness to listen to citizens with respect, preparedness to actively monitor, insistence on proper trials with genuine placebos, where are you? I do not see at any point where your theoretical acknowledgment of harm becomes real or compassionate, not just a convenient posture. Why should we trust the products? Why should we trust governments? Why should we trust hard-nosed public relations exercises on behalf of people who just want to extract ever more power for themselves while promoting their merchandise? I do not see any point at which the deeds of the industry or its public relations machine earns confidence.

"The British Government has failed to award a single vaccine damage case in seven years, while perhaps hundreds of millions of products have been administered. It created a Catch 22 when it was at risk of becoming liable for narcolepsy cases caused by Pandemrix. No doctor in the UK would normally dare implicate a vaccine in the harm or death of a patient. The WHO has attempted to massage out of existence cases of vaccine mortality. The industry has a dirty record, and it has a hyper-aggressive bureaucracy supporting it.

"This may be the path of heavy-fisted, all conquering empires, but it is not the path of trust."


David Weiner

I appreciate this analysis. It shows how difficult it is to make a rational decision about whether to take a vaccine such as this one.

But I think that there is another element of the equation that we should not lose sight of. It may well be that the danger posed by serious cases of yellow fever has been amplified by the unwillingness of the medical profession to use better means for treating such cases. We know that doctors were able to successfully treat Ebola using ozone. We know that doctors were able to prevent long-term harm from serious cases of polio using IV vitamin C. Doctors should be using these approaches to treat serious cases of yellow fever to see if they produce the same excellent results. And if they do, then this reality should also be considered when one is contemplating what to do.

Too often, we do not hold the medical profession accountable when they do not utilize what very well might be the best means for treating infection. We should hold their feet to the fire and demand that they do right for their patients. They should not be allowed to hold us hostage to taking dangerous vaccines by withholding better treatment options.

Grim Reaper

How do we deal with the Grim Reaper ? Our side has some great leaders and we're making progress yet it's always over dead and maimed bodies. What's it going to take to achieve medical freedom ?

On October 11, 1988, ACT UP had one of its most successful demonstrations (both in terms of size and in terms of national media coverage) when it successfully shut down the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) for a day. Media reported that it was the largest such demonstration since demonstrations against the Vietnam War.
The AIDS activists shut down the large facility by blocking doors, walkways and a road as FDA workers reported to work. Police told some workers to go home rather than wade through the throng.
"Hey, hey, FDA, how many people have you killed today?" chanted the crowd, estimated by protest organizers at between 1,100 and 1,500. The protesters hoisted a black banner that read "Federal Death Administration".
Police officers, wearing surgical gloves and helmets, started rounding up the hundreds of demonstrators and herding them into buses shortly after 8:30 a.m. Some protesters blocked the buses from leaving for 20 minutes.
Authorities arrested at least 120 protesters, and demonstration leaders said they were aiming for 300 arrests by day's end."
At this action, activists demonstrated their thorough knowledge of the FDA drug approval process. ACT UP presented precise demands for changes that would make experimental drugs available more quickly, and more fairly. "The success of SEIZE CONTROL OF THE FDA can perhaps best be measured by what ensued in the year following the action. Government agencies dealing with AIDS, particularly the FDA and NIH, began to listen to us, to include us in decision-making, even to ask for our input."

Bob Moffit

This tragic experience with this particular vaccine in an older person reminds me of Charles Richet's Nobel Prize award for identifying anaphylaxis as a deadly reaction to a vaccine .. which can be better explained in reading Richet's entire Nobel speech on the subject.


That a person could receive a vaccine with no reaction … but … on re-vaccination with the very same vaccine could cause death is truly worrisome to say the least. Apparently .. the first vaccine primes the individual's immune system to attack and destroy the very same vaccine when introduced for the second time. Scary stuff to me .. but .. what heck do I know?

Hans Litten

Absolutely SHOCKING !


No placebo-controlled trials to assess the safety of yellow fever 17D vaccines have been performed.

Posted by: Hans Litten | February 02, 2018 at 07:40 AM

Hans Litten


Two of the largest mass vaccination campaigns against yellow fever ever seen in the world have begun in Nigeria and Brazil. Both campaigns, which are supported by the World Health Organization, aim to prevent the spread of the disease.

Nigeria plans to vaccinate more than 25 million people throughout the coming year, making this the largest yellow fever campaign in the country's history. In preparation, the World Health Organization has trained thousands of health care workers on how to administer the vaccine.

The WHO says nearly 3,000 vaccination teams are being deployed across the states of Kogi, Kwara, Zamfara and Borno. In the case of Borno State, it says the campaign will focus on camps for internally displaced people and host communities.

WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic says the goal of the campaign is to reduce yellow fever transmission by achieving 90 percent coverage in those states.

"It is a part of an initiative to eliminate yellow fever epidemics," he said. "As you know, we cannot … eradicate the yellow fever virus because it is being transmitted by mosquitoes. But, with the effective vaccine that exists for a number of years now, it can be prevented. So, mass vaccination is the best way to prevent outbreaks of yellow fever."

The WHO reports the mass immunization campaign launched in Brazil will deliver so-called fractional doses of yellow fever to nearly 24 million people in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. Fractional dosing is a way of extending vaccine supplies so more people are protected from the spread of the disease.

A full dose of vaccine provides life-long protection against yellow fever. One-fifth of the regular dose confers immunity against the disease for at least 12 months and possibly longer. That is considered an effective short-term strategy in places where the vaccine is in short supply.
Has anyone read the vaccine insert ?
I seem to remember it says the vaccine is not to be used like this.

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