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RouletteNote: This article discusses a change in Quebec, Canada which will substitute the GlaxoSmithKline HPV vax in place of the Merck vax in an effort to save money for the province. I can't help but wonder if a GSK Rep got to a Quebecois politician to convince him or her that the money savings was wise. In fact, it's a money loser for Merck and a win for GSK.  I won't even combine Eveready and Duracell batteries in a toy - here we have students being experimented upon with two separate brands and formulations of a vaccine that is meant to be given in multiple doses.  HPV vaccination will topple the myth of vaccine safety - croyez nous.  And bonne chance to these poor students.


Students in Quebec are the first in Canada to be vaccinated in a program that uses two different vaccines to protect against the human papillomavirus, a change that has divided experts.

Under the new program, which started this fall, students receive one shot of Gardasil 9, which protects against nine strains of HPV, including 16 and 18, the two that cause the majority of cervical, anal and other HPV-related cancers. Early next year, students will receive a shot of Cervarix, which protects against HPV 16 and 18 only.

The new schedule is expected to save the Quebec government $3-million a year.

Several experts and organizations call the change a risky experiment that puts savings over health. None of the experts dispute the safety of Cervarix. The concern is that students who do not get two doses of Gardasil 9 will not build sufficient immunity to seven of the nine strains. Cervarix, produced by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), costs about $110 per dose, while Gardasil 9, made by Merck, costs about $190.

“[The change] took a lot of us by surprise,” said Nancy Durand, a gynecologist at Toronto’s Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre. “It’s a living experiment."

But members of Quebec’s immunization committee say clinical evidence shows the amended vaccine program will protect young people. Committee member Vladimir Gilca says much of the backlash originates from Merck, which stands to lose if provinces reduce use of its vaccine. School-based HPV vaccination programs in every other province use two doses of Gardasil 9.

“It’s nothing new to change a vaccination program. The most of these changes pass without a lot of attention,” said Dr. Gilca, a scientific adviser for the National Public Health Institute of Quebec.

Some of the opposition is because Cervarix has been approved for use only in girls and women in Canada. That does not mean it is unsafe for boys, but it is unusual for policy-makers to use vaccines in this off-label way, said Marc Steben, who works in the unit for sexually transmitted infections of the National Public Health Institute of Quebec.

Some experts fear one dose of Gardasil 9 could leave students vulnerable to genital warts and other less common forms of cancer not covered by Cervarix.

“This is based on pretty skimpy evidence, particularly in terms of long-term outcomes,” said Zeev Rosberger, a psychologist who studies HPV prevention and is on the board of advocacy group HPV Awareness.  Read more at The Globe and Mail.


Jeannette Bishop

@Angus, @Susan, glad you appreciated the share! Right now I probably have an unhealthy amount of time to video (or web generally) surf, but I'll credit Age of Autism, I think Kim particularly, for my introduction to Dr. Mumbi.

Susan Welch

Jeannette, thanks for posting the HPV Youtube link. What an amazing video? Where do you find such gems?

Angus Files

Thanks Jeannette a very switched on lady joining the dots ,well done her.

Pharma For Prison


Jeannette Bishop

"Free" HPV vaccine program targets Kenya:


One would think that that industry’s dose specific claims for all vaccines would have a tough time defending itself to any national healthcare service? Maybe this is an inroad (not in America though) for governing bodies to actually look at the science. Someone should tell our northern friends how much money Japan has saved eliminating this devastating, useless, vaccine from its recommendation all together.

Angus Files

3 million in the scheme of the budget equivalent to saving the cost of a big mac...minus chips, minus the cola...and still end up poisoned.

Pharma For Prison


Hans Litten

Irish Clearances 2018 RIP (decimates sperm count in boys - sterilises girls altogether)

Health minister says HPV vaccine will be extended to boys next year

Today I have received from @HIQA their assessment of the HPV vaccine for boys. Following this positive outcome, I am delighted to announce that this life saving vaccine will be extended to boys next year #vaccinessavelives
— Simon Harris TD (@SimonHarrisTD) December 7, 2018

“A gender-neutral 9-valent vaccination programme, where both boys and girls are vaccinated, is estimated to be more effective than the girls-only alternative,” Dr Máirín Ryan, deputy chief executive of Hiqa said.

bob moffit

"The new schedule is expected to save the Quebec government $3-million a year."

Absolute madness .. to even suggest the Quebec government would base this decision because it is "cost effective" to do so.

Like all things "legislated" by government .. each and every member of the Quebec government who thought it would be "cost effective" to require children in Quebec to accept TWO vaccines .. should be MANDATED TO UNDERGO THE VERY SAME VACCINES AS THEY HAVE NOW IMPOSED UPON CHILDREN.

How many times do we read of government officials EXEMPTING themselves from suffering the same risks and consequences they require the "people" to suffer?

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