As I said if you look at anything with EM you're going to find individual molecules of other substances, and that's exactly why Montanari and Gotti didn't use them.

Posted by: Frederic Chopin | June 26, 2018 at 01:30 PM

But weren't those contaminants entirely missing in the veterinary vaccine ?
Have you got a selective memory issue ?

Bill Gates said in a "TED" talk in 2010, "The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we can lower that by perhaps, 10 or 15 percent."
His talk was about how we need to reduce C02 emissions in order to fight global warming. (I don't believe that there is man-made global warming.) And one of his suggestions was to reduce the population. So he was indicating that vaccines, health care, and "reproductive health services" (in other words, abortion) are ways to reduce the population.

John,

I haven't argued about what they claimed to find nor route of administration. I'm not talking about Exley either, so you can stop with the strawmen. As for controls, as you've been told before, any injectable would have been fine (insulin, normal saline, Ringer's lactate, various antibiotics - how about IV vitamin C or DMSA?).

As I said if you look at anything with EM you're going to find individual molecules of other substances, and that's exactly why Montanari and Gotti didn't use them.

"professionals" tells us a great deal.

Posted by: John Stone | June 26, 2018 at 05:39 AM

Professional what ? Like the great train robbers ? Liars and thieves.
We have the evidence, we have the science - makes no difference to them at all,

Hans

It seems like virtually all politicians have simply become courtiers to government industrial bureaucracies. As we know Lorenzin was appointed by Obama to head the global vaccine enforcement drive weeks after the Thompson revelations. Giulia Grillo seems to be a bird of the same feather - having got elected on the back of opposing mandates she is now saying that health policy is a matter for the Ministry of Health - and is somehow looking for ways of appeasing people without changing anything. Presumably, the Ministry also have deals with GSK, since GSK boasted about this to a trade website. So much for democracy!

http://www.ageofautism.com/2018/03/beatrice-lorenzin-put-at-the-head-of-global-vaccine-strategy-at-white-house-in-2014-1.html

http://www.ageofautism.com/2017/06/the-british-government-the-murdochs-prof-pollard-and-the-gsk-takeover-in-italy.html

Of course, one thing politicians are hooked on is providing employment, but with the pharmaceutical industry the harm is coming to well outweigh the benefits.

Posted by: Cherry Misra | June 25, 2018 at 01:38 PM

The doctors are collaborating, they know (or at least many\most of them do).
They are being extremely well paid for their full cooperation, they are ducking the flu vaccines for themselves and at the same time dishing the flu vaccine out to everyone else's parents.
They can see full well what is occurring which is genocide and murder.

Ask them like I have done if you don't believe me, and watch carefully for the deceptive body language. Then perhaps mention to them, that tests are available to prove one way or another to say whether they have in fact taken the flu vaccine themselves.

I wish safety and peace for these brave, heroic doctors! No surprise that Grillo reneged. Fascists exploiting the political power of the vaccine risk aware community seems to be the order of the day.

John,

If you use EM to look at anything you're going to find individual molecules of other substances. That's not the argument though is it?

@ Hans Litten- it is to be remembered that the ethylmercury in vaccines harms the child but benefits the vaccine industry. HOW? Any dose of mercury disables the immune system , resulting in children falling sick from any microbial organism. Now they can say that children are getting sick and need more vaccines and that the unvaccinated are spreading germs to the immune impaired children.
It is interesting to note how few people, including doctors, are able to use a three step logic such as the one above- mercury in the human body = damaged immune system= more disease. How many highly educated doctors cant go any further than Vaccines (GOOD) conquer disease (BAD).

“Frederic Chopin”

But it is utterly explicit - an officer of the European Medicines Agency admitted the whole thing in a letter to BMJ. Of course, they maintained it was not significant, and emoted about undermining the sacred reputation of the vaccine schedule - but they never told anyone that there were routinely microscopic shards of metallic substances etc in the products until put under pressure.

Of course, if you are saying that ignoramuses and bullies dispute it it is probably true, but Gatti and Montanari found it, and the EMA confirmed it. So, it is really beyond dispute.

"Undisputed discovery" - please

May God and all the good souls of earth protect these scientists who are increasingly suffering retaliation for exposing corrupt markets that have major control levers through my profession and it’s governmental handmaiden known as Public Health. The very term Public Health is anti-Hippocratic. Exposing Metals as dangerous to human biology should not be so difficult, ironically when these metals come from guns (lead in venison) or radiologists (gadolinium poisoning of Chuck Norris’ wife) the political discourse and risk is much different. I much appreciate having helped bring these two to America in June of 2017 to show us in the United States exactly what their electron microscopes are Imaging.

Edward F. Fogarty, MD
President of the International Hyperbaric Medical Foundation
Chairman of Radiology at the University of North Dakota

Beatrice Lorenzin by any other name would smell as sweet! No doubt, the Italian Health Ministry and Giulia Grillo are looking at their secret contracts with GSK and how people voted doesn't matter.

http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/digital-culture-media-and-sport-committee/fake-news/written/73097.html

I am afraid that when the mainstream political class simply become clients of the pharmaceutical industry the results are not going to be happy.

It was only a matter of time before the vaccine industry, public health bureaucracies, media and politicians .. having succeeded for decades in "demonizing" scientists .. such as Dr Wakefield .. who dare to raise serious concerns regarding vaccine safety and efficiency no longer work. What to do with scientists like Montanari Gatti & Salvini who refused to be cowed by the "demonization" they knew they would be subjected to?

The answer becomes obvious by reading Montanari's letter:

"After years of persecution (demonization), after clumsy and continuous attempts to attack our scientific credibility without putting any scientific arguments against our own, after having deprived us of the indispensable tools for our work, after the illegal seizure of our computers containing the data of our research, here is the physical attack. Undoubtedly something rough but certainly understandable by anyone."

Conducting "illegal seizures of computers and physically attacking" these courageous scientists reeks of sheer panic desperation .. "criminalization of science" by an industry that has grown too powerful and unaccountable to the people all over the globe .. is an indication the "by any means necessary" thuggery the industry has prospered by for decades .. MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!

So the lamestream has basically decided to align itself against the electorate.
Bold Move