Selective Outrage
I Tweeted Nancy Pelosi my thoughts on the current selective outrage regarding the very real plight of children in detention right now. What's the scale for the outrage meter settings? When are kids lives more valuable or important? All children matter. Kids belong with their loving parents who are making hard choices to give them the best possible life. Parents are allowed to make choices! Sometimes they even break the law to protect their kids. Unless you are a parent altering the vaccine schedule - because in California, thanks to Senator Richard Pan's SB277, kids who are not fully vaccinated in certain grades (yet healthy) can not attend school. Californians allowed this law that discriminates against healthy children who have a right to school. No outrage, only derision. I feel jaded. I don’t want to see kids in detention centers. My heart hurts for the families. Hearts are hard when it comes to us and our kids. If there are immigrant kids in CA detention centers, their parent should scream “Not fully vaxxed!” (Translators needed!) Then maybe the kids will be released to Mom and Dad.
Under SB 277, children will only be able to attend school or daycare, public or private, if they either receive the immunizations required by law or obtain a medical exemption from the requirement from a licensed physician—meaning only MDs and DOs.[11] Children may also be conditionally accepted into a school or daycare program if they are in the process of completing a series of vaccinations. In other words, if parents wish to leave their children unvaccinated, absent an acknowledged medical reason to do so, they cannot send them to school or daycare. They will, however, have a variety of other options available. These options include homeschooling their children on their own or in collaboration with a few other families, or participating in certain independent study programs offered by public schools. UCLA Law Rewview
Kim
I think parents who decide to enter the US illegally with their children must be aware of the illegality of their actions, and must know that if they are apprehended they will be jailed until their hearing and probable deportation. It is and should be illegal to put children in jail with them. So the only recourse is to separate the parents from the children until the parents are deported. If a man with his child near him were to commit a serious crime such as bank robbery, assault, or murder, it is beyond doubt that he should be jailed, but his child should not be. While illegal immigration is not in itself a violent crime, it is still one which is having serious effects on the quality of our lives. And there have been thousands of violent crimes committed by illegal immigrants. I think it would be better for parents not to cross the border illegally with their children. Although we just came back from Mexico City, and the situation there with traffic, overpopulation, corruption, as well as violent crime is absolutely horrendous. The friends we stayed with told us that two years ago their house had been burglarized, many valuable items stolen, and the mother knocked to the ground, beaten, kicked, and insulted, because she had left the metal fence in front of their house without its padlock locked for a few minutes when she went out to buy something at the corner store. I talked to a friend from Panama last night, and we were competing as to which city was worse in terms of absolutely intolerable, Panama City or Mexico City. Two hours to go even a few kilometers, Six Flags was 26 km away and it took us two hours to drive each way. Private car, taxi, Metrobus, metro, walking, were all excruciatingly difficult, crowded, and time-consuming, and I can see why many people there just want to get out. One of my friends there said it was an immense waste of her life to spend so much time in traffic. She is one of six children, now all middle-aged.
One of the sons told me that he had been on his motorcycle in Mexico City six years ago when he was stopped at 3:30 p.m., with many people nearby, and his motorcycle and money were stolen. His sister told me that gang members were on the alert for certain brands of motorcycles, and called in for backup to stop him and rob him. I think we must think very carefully about what the consequences will be if we permit illegal immigration. A lot of Mara Salvatrucha and Zeta members, and many other narcotraficantes, are coming in illegally as well as the innocent. I support programs to give legal entry to immigrants to place in employment if there are no indigenous Americans to work in them. I do not support paying Americans less than a living wage because there are so many immigrants willing to work for close to nothing. And I do not support importing these intolerable living conditions.
Posted by: cia parker | June 23, 2018 at 01:43 PM
Posted by: will | June 20, 2018 at 10:40 PM
This crime is international in scope.
I cannot speak for others here but my aim is to try to stop the chemical maiming and killing.
To stop children being disabled by the Pharma Reich.
And to get help & justice for those already poisoned.
Posted by: Hans Litten | June 21, 2018 at 05:58 AM
So far as borders and seperation goes how much does a DNA test cost and take to do...Free as well if its a match you dont pay, if its not a match you pay and your put back where you came from or worse..
Pharma For Prison
MMR RIP
Posted by: Angus Files | June 21, 2018 at 04:36 AM
What none of you people have the gonads to talk about is the DDS and ther DDS's sub contractors the California Regional Centers (Alta,Harbor,Lanterman) reducing funding to Developmental Disability services since the recession. This has a bigger impact on families with autism more than that Pan moron. The poorer quality and boring day programs and getting rid of supported employment as well as poorly trained and vetted nursing aids supposedly caring for the severely disabled. All of these are a result of post 2007 budget cuts. I live in California and do not care about what some person from Denmark or Ireland says he should also worry about the developmental disability related social services agencies cutting the budget in his country and the dire consequences of such cuts. Do not get me wrong that Pam is a fool. He has no interest in Developmental Disabled .There is selective outrage on AofA as well but out of state or country residents that do not know or care about California politics. If any one mentions the illegal immigrant controversy I say to you there are illegal immigrants in many countries including lower middle income ones like South Africa and Mexico and whether or not they are mistreat by paramilitary border or customs agents has little to do with autism advocacy the original focus of AofA.
Posted by: will | June 20, 2018 at 10:40 PM
We need borders in order to be a country. We also have no way of knowing if undocumented children taken over the border really are with their parents, or if it's child-trafficking. Children should also not be arrested for being taken over here by their will. In the meantime, they still have to be kept somewhere. That's why they need to be temporarily separated and placed in state custody.
What's really ridiculous is seeing the American Academy of Pediatrics attack immigration law enforcement. They can never again be taken seriously when they say diseases are "just a plane-ride away" to shut down vaccine criticism.
https://www.autisminvestigated.com/pediatricians-vaccinations/
Posted by: Autism Investigated | June 20, 2018 at 10:29 PM
After what is in the news today over diamorphine drugs being used as a burden of care of the elderly solution policy and procedure normal . endemic over the whole UK
My thoughts are with people who did not think it could happen.
It will not be contuining to happen in this country , that is a definite certanty. This is not our value and respect for our elderly loved ones. We just escaped it by a hairs breadth past a freacle, then hell on earth from social services trying to get my mum removed from the house for the next 14 days until I organised and got private support services employed.
Posted by: Morag | June 20, 2018 at 07:28 PM
And Hans, funny how that news report didn't mention the fact that paralysis has been increasing in Pakistan even as polio was decreasing. Almost as if the vaccine is worthless and the disease is just being renamed eh?
Posted by: rtp | June 20, 2018 at 06:27 PM
@Linda1
Exactly!!! I shouldn't have said wards of the state, I should have said guinea pigs of the state:
http://davaotoday.com/main/politics/group-demands-release-of-list-of-children-vaccinated-with-dengvaxia/
And in all the cries of how fascist the separation of children from their parents is, not ONE media outlet will question how their Nuremberg protections might be getting violated.
Posted by: annie | June 20, 2018 at 04:52 PM
Thank you, Kim. And just look how quickly the situation is turning around, due to public outcry. Meanwhile, our vaccine-injured, seizing, nonverbal kids suffer for decades, slide into adulthood, and nobody's gives a frog's fat a**.
Bob, the Orwell quote you posted totally nails it.
Posted by: Donna L. | June 20, 2018 at 02:02 PM
I think regarding the on going fight against Fake News,
1. they should make it illegal to read any vaccine inserts
2. they should make it illegal to investigate vaccine ingredients (Engley & themiserol)
3. they should raid the laboratory of experts in nanospectroscopy and seize all their work (Gatti)
4. they should ban any film exposing any vaccine misdeeds at the cdc (Thompson-Vaxxed)
5. they should make it illegal to mention the term sv40, Xmrv
6. they should suspend any FDA report about to link formaldehyde with leukemia
7. they should make it illegal to learn any knowledge about vaccination
8. they should make Edward Jenner the patron saint of the human race & canonise all doctors
9. they should offer the top job at the WHO to Colon Boyle
10. they should have Julie Gerberding reading the 9 o'clock news every evening
11. they should ostracise\persecute all scientists who finds anything incriminating (mikovits -exley)
12. they should pay legions of ex military people to flood the net to fight the flood of truth
13. they should make it law that people have to sacrifice their own children on the altar of vaccine lies
Lets face it, its all about the fake vaccines (nothing else)
And they have done all this and much more !
Posted by: Hans Litten | June 20, 2018 at 01:13 PM
Of course these poor children are being vaccinated as soon as detention centers get their hands on them. Maybe that's why they're crying. :(
Posted by: Linda1 | June 20, 2018 at 12:30 PM
ICE is simply taking a page out of Paul Offit’s book which has read, on multiple occasions, that children who have not succumbed to the CDC’s exact vaccine schedule should become wards of the state. No doubt non-English speaking, non-white children make him drool all the more.
Posted by: annie | June 20, 2018 at 12:20 PM
I agreed with Kim's reply to Pelosi. It made strong points that are valid. If I were to write or tweet, whatever, to Pelosi or any government official, about the vaccine-non vaccine hostages, I will still ask the question...do your vaccines work or not? If they do,,why are you harping that unvaccinated children are a risk to everyone in schools or public places..? If your child is vaccinated, why are you still parroting the phrases of this subjective collective who insists that younor yournfsmily are in danger of catching some disease they're already vaccinated against?? Surely you've reached the herd immunity safety number by now..?
If anyone is in danger of catching some freely communicable disease amongst children, it's the unvaccinated in danger of catching the disease shed by your vaccinated children when they return to school after receiving vaccines.
Posted by: Peggy Jaeger | June 20, 2018 at 11:54 AM
Is getting someone else into Sec. Nielsen's position the goal of this screaming about a 30 something year old heinous policy that reportedly didn't stop when presidents ostensibly wearing the blue jerseys were in office?
Is Pelosi going to introduce a bill to change it? Because I'm a little worried that a replacement of someone following the law might be aimed to facilitate something unlawful and also heinous...
Posted by: Jeannette Bishop | June 20, 2018 at 10:50 AM
Way to go, Kim. Politicians are such shameless hypocrites. Feinstein is just as bad. Neither will be thrown out of office any time soon, nor would it make any difference.
Posted by: Gary Ogden | June 20, 2018 at 08:48 AM
Thanks Bob for the information.
Posted by: Benedetta | June 20, 2018 at 07:36 AM
Hans; Are they still drinking water from those deep artisan wells; that had all the arsenic draining off the Himalaya mountains? Now that they know, I wonder if they took any steps to stop that?
Posted by: Benedetta | June 20, 2018 at 07:34 AM
Good work Kim.
Here is the news from Pakistan, I say good, bring vaccination allegations into the court room !
This science and the evidence is with us !
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/06/20/health-officials-plan-to-address-problem-of-fake-news-report/
PESHAWAR: The administration of the polio vaccine is deeply impacted by the issue of fake news as a result of which health authorities have decided to tackle this head-on by suing those who publish such news, local media reported.
In a meeting held on Tuesday, authorities involved in the polio eradication campaigns across Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) discussed the circulation of fake news on various media outlets and other platforms and the impact they have had on the campaign.
They particularly discussed the role of social media websites and how they are being used by different people as a propaganda tool against the campaigns.
Health officials claim that the anti-polio programme was at its peak in recent years, corresponding with a sharp drop in poliovirus cases, down from 68 in 2014 to just one in 2017 and none so far this year.
Similarly, over the past two years, not even a single case has been reported from the provincial capital which was once considered a hub for the polio virus.
Posted by: Hans Litten | June 20, 2018 at 07:05 AM
Sadly some of the children are not with their parents and might become a part of the child slave trade in the United States unless they are sorted out.
Are the vaccine reps on site injecting the children ??? I would assume they are.
On many issues, that problems are never solved because the "whatever party" wants the problem to exist for the next election cycle. SB277 is just a part of the police state that exists in California and provides money to the "American drug lords" who control almost everything in DC.
Congress can change whatever law they want Today, but until then, the news media will be in "panic and outrage mode" for weeks which is what they have to do every damn day for ratings.
I would assume the Nancy Pelosi house in California has a wall of some kind around it that she enjoys very much.
Posted by: go Trump | June 20, 2018 at 07:02 AM
Unfortunately .. "selective outrage" … is merely Sol Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" in action. For those who have never read Sol's Rules … (sorry for the length) .. here they are:
* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist
* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, individual's hurt faster than institutions.
In my humble opinion .. Sol's Rules are practiced everywhere in our daily lives … on a myriad of highly controversial issues .. by politicians, academia, media, industries to name just four of many others practicing the same .. and .. the most effective and successful are rules 3, 5, 8, 9, 10 with rule 12 being the most often used and effective.
Sol's Rules are designed specifically to respond to Kim's question: "When are kids lives more valuable or important"? Unfortunately .. with Sol's help … our government has too often resembled Orwell's Animal Farm .. where "some pigs (kids) are more equal than other pigs (kids).
Posted by: bob moffit | June 20, 2018 at 07:00 AM