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Lego horse headNote: Wait until a Sicilian Don's daughter or son is vaccine injured.  Italy is being taken over by the PharMafia, make no mistake.  Italian citizens are protesting the MANDATES not the actual vaccination, so to call them "anti-vaccine" is the basic tobacco playbook used by CDC et al in all propaganda.  Rome wasn't built in a day, but with new mandates, you can bet that special education programs will be needed very soon. In bocca al lupo, to our Italian friends.  Welcome to the American way. Forced medicine.

By Tara John
6:17 AM EST

In late 2015, Italian virologist Roberto Burioni took part in a Q&A with young mothers on a Facebook group and was alarmed to find many of them spouting conspiracy theories about vaccinations. The measles shot, they said, gives children autism.

The 55-year-old decided to take a deeper look online and realized there was an ecosystem of Italian anti-vaccination groups on the social media site. In spring 2016, Burioni sat down, fired up his laptop and began debunking anti-vaccination conspiracy theories on his public Facebook page.

“I started writing because I was fed up of social media being at the hands of people telling lies,” Burioni, who is a professor of microbiology and virology at the Vita-Salute University San Raffaele, Milan, says during a phone interview. “All the voices [online] in Italy were against vaccination. There was no debate and I did what I could to start one.”  Read more here.

Just over two years later that debate has gone from an online feud to a live political issue in the Italian general election due on March 4. As skepticism about vaccines has become widespread in Italy, so-called “anti-vaxxers” have become a voting bloc for the populist parties vying for votes. As a result, two of the leading populist parties — the far-right League (formerly the Northern League) and the anti-establishment Five Star Movement (5SM) — have pledged, if elected, to scrap a law passed in July that made ten vaccinations compulsory for children under the age of 16. If they do, health experts warn it could be a huge step backwards in the global fight for children’s health.

Vaccine skepticism in Italy dates back to a debunked 1998 study by Andrew Wakefield that linked the Measles, Mumps and Rubella (MMR) shot typically given to children after their first birthday to autism. The discredited idea took hold among an “intellectual fringe” in Italy, says Andrea Grignolio, a medicine historian at the La Sapienza University of Rome. The skeptics tend to be “rich and older parents,” he says, “who are susceptible to both alternative treatments, like homeopathy, and conspiracy theories.”


cia parker


Fever is very beneficial and it would be very rare for it to cause encephalopathy or brain damage. You do not WANT to prevent fever: on the one hand, it's the elaborately-honed mechanism of dozens of different strategies only activated then the temperature rises, all calculated to kill the invading pathogens, and on the other it provides the immune system with non-specific immunity, the product of an experienced immune system, now trained to protect against any invading pathogen. Never 100% effective, weakened by many possible factors, and there are a certain number of very virulent diseases, rare in developed countries, which will give any immune system a run for its money and may overcome it. The very best way to train children's immune systems to become strong and competent for life is to allow them, even encourage them, to get the formerly universal childhood diseases: measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox. Flu, hep-A, pertussis, and colds and bronchitis are also good, all of them past early infancy. I wouldn't actively seek out the more dangerous diseases, but before vaccines and agricultural chemicals, most people developed immunity even to tetanus, diphtheria, all types of local meningitis, and polio through sub-clinical exposure. Most of them caused a fever, and it was necessary and beneficial. Even a fever of 105 is not dangerous and will not cause brain damage if it doesn't last over a few days, and the immune system has innate understanding of how high to make a fever in the case of each individual pathogen and how long to hold it there. A fever from natural causes will not go over 105, except in extremely rare cases with preexisting complicating factors. Nearly three years ago, I had a summer flu, with a fever of 105 for two days, 104 for a third, and then it dropped back to normal and I recovered. I took no fever reducers of any kind, really no medication of any kind, herbal, homeopathic, vitamin, or allopathic, as I was just too sick to get up to look for it. But I recovered anyway.

autism uncle

Fred's "Fighting science with insults and anecdotes" is the typical excuse from someone who believes 100% the mainstream media and medical repeatedly spouting "vaccines don't cause autism." I would bet Fred goes daily to his job at CDC, where MILLIONS of vaccine-damage "anecdotes" are recorded and then ignored BECAUSE they contradict the status quo. Fred, did you ever hear of Ignaz Semmelweis? or Linus Pauling? or Rachel Carson?

Hans Litten


Vote projection figures put the Eurosceptic, anti-establishment Five Star Movement in second place, after the centre-right coalition.

Founded in 2009 by comedian Beppe Grillo, who denounced cronyism in Italian politics, Five Star made significant gains and could emerge as the largest single party in Italy's lower house, with 216-236 seats.

BBC Europe editor Katya Adler tweeted that it is "theoretically possible for the EU's nightmare result to come true: a coalition between the 'populist Eurosceptics': Five Star and Lega [the League party]".

Hans Litten


Italy is on course for a hung parliament after voters backed right-wing and populist parties, vote projections based on partial results suggest.
Ex-PM Silvio Berlusconi's right-wing coalition looks set to win the most seats in the lower house of parliament.
It is tipped to get 248-268 seats - below the 316 needed for a majority.
Forming a government may now take weeks of negotiation and coalition-building.
Alternatively, fresh elections could be held in a bid to produce a more decisive result - though there is no guarantee that would happen.

Vote projection figures put the Eurosceptic, anti-establishment Five Star Movement in second place, after the centre-right coalition.


"Fighting science with insults and anecdotes."

What science lol?

Frederic Chopin

Fighting science with insults and anecdotes.

Ooh, a dead composer

"And despite what you see on FB or YouTube or whatever vaccines don't cause fevers that last years."
Fred, I'm not on FB or YouTube, etc. I'm speaking from personal experience about what happened to a real person, my child, as well as the actual reports from other real persons, parents whose kids had the very same reactions. I think I see what the problem here is...all of your claims appear to be coming from textbooks, articles, and perhaps professors rather than actual patients.
Enjoy your naiveté! Ignorance truly is bliss; hey, it's how all of us wound up here, with vaccine-damaged kids. And who knows? Someday, maybe 20 years from now when you're all grown up and have kids of your own and get them every vaccine under the sun, you may just comprehend what we've been saying here all along.


"And before we started immunizing for measles essentially 100% of children suffered from it."

Well, Fred, everyone I knew had the measles, but no one I knew "suffered from it". It was a mild transient childhood illness for everyone I knew and for my parents when they were children. Your problem is that you have an extremely distorted perception of what these illnesses are. Extremely distorted.

"...vaccines don't cause fevers that last years."

Are you for real?

susan welch

I forgot to mention that I've just watched Del Bigtree speak at the Freedom for Family Wellness Summit in Reston, VA. Cannot get a link but if anyone wants to relax for an hour and listen to one of the greatest orators for truth we have, it is on the Highwire with Del Bigtree Face Book page.

The subject is freedom and he speaks of the David and Goliath challenge. Very uplifting and I can't think of a better way of starting a Sunday.

susan welch

Fred. One of my sons had measles. It wasn't pleasant but he is now an extremely healthy (very nearly) 50 year old. His son had the MMR and had a fever that night. He is now severely a autistic 26 year old and my son - literally - dreams of having a conversation with him. My other grandson did not react quickly to his vaccines, just stopped talking until he was 6 and he is now 22 with ADHD and is an extremely troubled and unhappy young man.

Please stop lying about reactions to measles compared to reactions to vaccines. You are trolling on the wrong page.

Frederic Chopin

Ooh, a dead composer,

"... vaccines cause more fevers than the diseases they supposedly prevent."

Even with the MMR, which is 3 vaccines, the incidence of fever is only 6-15%. The incidence of fever with just natural measles (not even taking into account mumps and rubella) is virtually 100% and tend to be much higher temperatures. And before we started immunizing for measles essentially 100% of children suffered from it.

And despite what you see on FB or YouTube or whatever vaccines don't cause fevers that last years.

Ooh, a dead composer

Yes, Fred, that is exactly what I mean - that vaccines cause more fevers than the diseases they supposedly prevent. High fevers for prolonged periods of time (weeks and months and even years) following immunization are one of the most common features parents of vaccine injured children report. Parents are given no explanation, are just told to give Tylenol or even rotate Tylenol and ibuprofen. Febrile seizures following vaccination are brushed off as coincidental/unrelated to immunizations. Kids go on to regress into "autism"/brain damage, the fevers continue for years, febrile seizures develop into full blown epilepsy and, well, here we are, wondering how people like you can claim that supposed vaccine-preventable diseases can ever be worse than vaccine damage.

John Stone


We seem to be getting into the "my child wasn't damaged" territory, equivalent to "not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer, therefore smoking doesn't cause lung cancer".

We have horrible numbers of children with NDDs and chronic diseases, and it gets worse every year. ..and the Department of Health just shrugs.

John Stone


An obvious point is that that you are taking an infant 0-6 months and bombarding them with dozens of of vaccines - in the US Hep B at birth - with diseases they may never have got.

Frederic Chopin


Synthetic infections? And are you saying vaccines cause more fevers than the diseases they prevent? Same question for Ooh a dead composer.


Our immune system is incredible but it didn't do much good against smallpox and polio (or a lot of other diseases) until we learned how to augment it.

John Stone


I suppose what I had in mind was brands of politics in which the solution is to gang up in some way against some minority group. The Northern League started by saying they wanted to get rid of the South of Italy (including Rome), but presently I think it is just the immigrants they want to get rid of. Now we have the global elite scapegoating us for popular consumption (and the benefit of the pharmaceutical industry).

Angus Files

CIA you know that they can make any statistic up that they want,or you should know by now for the length of time you`ve been posting.Not one of the studies reflect anything in the real world.Stop and have a look around you, the illnesses`s are worse than they were even before they brought in better sanitation and boiling water.In most cases like a dealer shuffling the pack of cards the illness`s are just put under a different line or heading or where they would prefer under the table.

Pharma For Prison



Aaby found that African babies given the DPT were 5-10x more likely to die of all causes (other than D,P orT) than the unvaccinated. It is the most widely given vaccine and his research team concluded that it is killing more babies than it is saving.


John Stone You said you did not like populist politics.

I being slow did not know what that really was. I have heard it, but that did not mean I knew what it was, really.

The magic box - the computer that knows all says: "Populism is a strange political beast, as nobody knows what it is, and fewer identify with it, but (in theory) should be the prevailing political ideology in a democracy. Populism is closely aligned with anti-elitism. Populism can be either left or right-wing."

It does not sound bad to me.

Laura Hayes


Prophylactic medical procedures, and we are talking about invasive ones to make matters worse, that have not been properly tested should not be approved, marketed, recommended, administered, or mandated. Period.

go Trump

The markets took a bit of a hit today with a few issues with steel and aluminum.

Could you imagine what would happen it the President announced a RFK Vaccine Commission, an end to all Vaccine mandates, a halt to Gardasil & the Vaccine Court, and then brought out Dr. William Thompson for a joint press conference ???

cia parker


I agree that no vaccine has been properly tested. But very few in developed countries now get tetanus, diphtheria, polio, or Hib meningitis because the vaccines for them are very effective. Not absolutely safe, certainly, but most people get them with no obvious problems and they don't get the diseases. I don't agree with a moratorium on all vaccines. If one got only a few of the less dangerous vaccines, there would be few problems, and we'd continue to see little or none of these diseases. Vaccines CAN'T be made safe, because they HAVE to induce inflammation, which can be acute right away or chronic, causing many terrible conditions. But the diseases can be very bad as well. Every parent has to research the issue carefully and certainly not get all the recommended vaccines, but getting the most needed vaccines and no more is a reasonable choice. But it will always be a gamble which must be carefully made.

Donna L.

Gotta love the 'intellectual fringe' statement in this article! They might as well come right out and say, "Those smart people are ruining everything!" Oops!
Somehow I don't think this author will be allowed to cover this issue in the future, although she did score major PharmaPoints for using "debunked" and "conspiracy theory" in every other sentence. How original.


OF COURSE the scientific reality of what is being forcibly injected into our infants is driving EVERY SINGLE ELECTION IN THE WORLD - duh!!!


OK Fred So you get your healthy child vaccinated with lets say the DPT, and within hours high pitched screaming, temp above 103, eyes roll back in their sockets, hypotonic-hyporesponsive episodes, seizures. Obviously Fred, your child has had a systemic reaction to what was injected into them because the vaccination and the toxic ingredients by-passed all the eons of immunologic development where fever and other immunologic responses are what is natural, essential to how we have evolved to fight pathogens.

Come on Fred, try to be smarter than a fever to concoct such a ridiculous statement. Our immune system and its immunologic responses are pretty incredible unless undermined by vaccinations.

Ooh, a dead composer

Yeah, not so quick, Fred:

"Frequency of fever as an AEFI. The passive surveillance system for AEFI in the United States, known as the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, has found fever to be the most frequently reported “serious” and “nonserious” AEFI for all age groups, with the exception of persons aged 18–64 years,"


In the news - the up the nose live flu vaccine is coming back in the US next year. Not that it has been tested and proven to work or even be safe. Not that the approving committee is thrilled to recommend it or has confidence in the drug. They have no reason to have confidence, but they are recommending it anyway. Throw it out there and see what happens.

Not that you'll be asked to sign consent to be experimented on. You'll be told that it is safe and effective.

If you are not "anti-vaccine" you are either clueless, bought, or intellectually challenged.

John Stone


But we have had an explosion of ASDs since the program began to be ramped up thirty years ago - dozens of vaccines administered before six months- parents told to go away and give Tylenol. Parents ignored or abused if they show any concern, a tradition which you have embraced. Children are being exposed to many more synthetic infections than the infections they would normally have encountered, not to mention the synthetic means.

John Stone


I still say we should not be party to distorted reporting of events, as in Time.

Frederic Chopin


If the theory is fever can cause encephalopathy the logical next question is...what's the best way to prevent fever in children? And the answer is don't let them contract vaccine-preventable infections.


the wealthy in Italy, like those in California, will not be required to vaccinate their children.
the mandating of vaccinations, as opposed to recommendations, is sadly, corrupt class politics.

Laura Hayes


If the first duty is to tell things straight, then that would be to publicize at every opportunity that not one vaccine has ever been tested properly, much less the reckless combinations in which they are regularly administered, and therefore, not one should ever have come to market. Dangerous medical procedures that have been proven time and again to harm and kill our children should not be allowed to be sold or administered. If we are going to permit such untested and dangerous products to be marketed and injected into every single age group, including fetuses, what then is the purpose of having any regulatory agency? None.

An immediate moratorium on all vaccines is desperately needed. We take cribs and high chairs off the market after they harm or kill even one. Vaccines have destroyed too many to be counted. Where is the sense in this? Where is the sense in continuing their permitted use? Where is the sense in refusing to be called anti-vaccine at this point in time?

Autism Investigated

What Laura Hayes said.

John Stone

To be clear vaccines cause autism according to US government spokesman. Julie Gerberding when she was head of the CDC at the time of the Hannah Poling case told Sanjay Gupta:

"Now, we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids. So if a child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the vaccines. And if you’re predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism."


And health officials gave the following statement to Sharyl Atkisson and David Kirby on seperate occasions:

"The government has never compensated, nor has it ever been ordered to compensate, any case based on a determination that autism was actually caused by vaccines. We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."



Angus Files

i like the art work in this one ..
Today's anti-vaccination movement is not the first. Riots, pamphlets, and an outcry in 19th-century England set the stage for contemporary misinformation campaigns.


Also Trump got in because of our Bloc vote

"And one in three supporters of the President-elect believe vaccines can do serious harm (The Economist/YouGov )"


Pharma For Prison


Hans Litten

More mass Gardasil hysteria I suppose ? in the Philippines :


61 cops fall ill after being vaccinated with Dengvaxia
By: Jhoanna Ballaran - INQUIRER.net / 04:16 PM March 01, 2018

Days after the reported death of a utility worker vaccinated with Dengvaxia, the Philippine National Police General Hospital (PNP-GH) said 61 policemen fell ill after being administered with the now-controversial vaccine.

PNP-GH chief Senior Supt. Reimound Sales said that as of March 1, 61 policemen had sought treatment in the hospital due to different symptoms like body pain, cough, colds, and fever.


Virginia Raggi, the M5S mayor of Rome has informed Health Minister Beatrice Lorenzin that Rome's city council unanimously approved a motion ruling that even non-vaccinated children had a right to state education. This directly contradicts the government decree passed in May 2017 which made several vaccinations compulsory for school children. Millions of Italians have been demonstrating in the streets against mandatory vaccinations. The Five Star Movement which wants to end mandatory vaccinations is currently polling ahead of any other single party. I hope they win the March 4 election and end forced vaccines .


I have not had my children vaccinated simply because there is no risk of Polio or Diptheria in the UK, I had measles, mumps as a child without problem also had whooping cough. Research published in BMJ in 2006 showed this vaccine is not very effective. I made my decision having decided the benefits did not outweigh the risks and wrote about it, if anything on my website is untrue more than happy to change it. I am not “anti” vaccine no more than I am anti MacDonalds don’t feed it to the kids because it won’t make them healthier, humans have evolved getting infections, bacteria and viruses strengthen the immune system. Yes there are risks just as there are risks; but they depend where you are living and your health status.

John Stone


First duty is to tell things straight - this is a story of aggressive lobbying, corrupt politicians, bought out media and increasingly distrustful citizens. It wasn't the citizens turning on the state spontaneously, it was the state turning on the citizens. The angry Italians I have been in touch with were never absolutists. And the big demos did not happen to ban vaccination, they happened to stop mandates.


Below is the text of the so-called "author retraction" of the Lancet paper:

"This statement refers to the Early Report 'Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children,' published in The Lancet in 1998. It is made by 10 of the 12 original authors who could be contacted. It should be noted that the statement does not necessarily reflect the views of the other co-authors.

The main thrust of the paper was the first description of an unexpected intestinal lesion in the children reported. Further evidence has been forthcoming in studies from the Royal Free Centre for Paediatric Gastroenterology and other groups to support and extend these findings. While much uncertainty remains about the nature of these changes, we believe it important that such work continues, as autistic children can potentially be helped by recognition and treatment of gastrointestinal problems.

We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent."

That doesn't sound debunked to me. It sounds like, reading between the lines, that the authors were being pursued by the hounds of hell...I mean of the pharmaceutical industry, and ten of the authors caved in to it--but only to a certain extent. So rather brave of them, I guess.

Laura Hayes

“Anti-Vaccine” equals Informed Intelligence and Principled Ethics.

Embrace it, proclaim it, own it...and watch the tide begin to shift more quickly!

John Stone

And it all goes back to the deals made with GSK in early 2015


The Guardian have been here with their misinformation before Time:


As someone who does not like populist politics it grieves me to see "middle-ground" politicians engaged in corruption, half-baked ideologies and hate rhetoric against citizens.


So, the older, richer ,better educated, and the more knowledgeable of Italy are susceptible to both alternative treatments, like homeopathy, and conspiracy theories.” Sigh.

They, I guess it is all separate areas of science that are all so corrupted , it is just good business in each case, but it some times seems so bizarre!

So, many areas of science, government, and federal agencies are so corrupted, and all the while the laws to correct it all are never enforced; as "they" "them" continue to be break these laws. It some times just seems so coordinated; that it almost appears to be a collective thought of "they" "them"

Is it because we have had this mentality for decades that crime is some one with a gun, ball bat holding up a store, bank, train; but white collar crime is different and really no big deal?

Cause there has bound to be laws broken.
I see it in the last two administrations really bad, and I mean tons of it.
Dr. William Thompson said they had changed data, thrown it in the trash and nothing. That is against the law. There are laws written, on the books for that kind of stuff.

I see that they the EPA changed data on global temperature; my guess is to make a few people in high places rich with cap and trade games and what happens? The federal government had put these EPA scientists in front of the court system, and then nothing happened. At least I never heard how that came out?
It just got worse; with Fast and furious, giving money and guns to drug cartels and nothing.
Banks bundle up loans and sells them as in some kind of ponzi scheme while federal enforcers let them, as the spend their time watching porno on the clock. The banks not only do not get punished, but the American tax payer bails them out?

But the worse of the worse that broke all of our hearts are the children. Our children are our life, the most important thing. "They" "them" have come for them too, and we gave them over because we trusted them.

I don't how it can be cleaned up?

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