Hi Grace they flipped for whatever reason I guess we dont have previous history of the criminals so whether it was a one of or not we cant see.The school killings are diffrent to everything that has come before so far as I can see.I think there were always ``mad` people about and I guess in `peaceful times` its more documented.I always think of the Norsk Berserker`s who were the pick of the crop in a battle...decedents and the dna of these people will still be with us today and I would imagine that this type of person would have a lower threshold of control but then again maybe not.Many of the best fighting forces are the quietest in day to day life stick them into battle they change no explaining it.

"The concept of ‘berserk’ also turns up independently of ‘berserker’. The idea of ‘going berserk’ could apply to more than just the members of a warrior brotherhood. Harald Hardråde (Hardruler) “went berserk” at the 1066 battle of Stamford Bridge, for example. "

http://www.historyextra.com/period/viking/the-truth-about-viking-berserkers/

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

Hi John Stone,
You are very right that the mix of increasingly mentally disturbed kids and easily available guns will continue to create a potential for nightmare scenarios In the U.S. Your comment wasn't smug, it made sense; I was just trying to share some of the challenges and complexities in the whole situation.
Psychotropic drugs causing violent outbursts and disinhibition, media coverage of the shooters rather than the heroes, violent video games, and a lack of moral compass and empathy are probably all contributing too. Some of the shooters have said they wanted their name to go down in history;perhaps it is also time to consider not publicly naming these people, rather like the way we don't name rape victims, though for a very different reason..

@ Barry,

It appears we have trolls here who want to adversely affect our relationships in cyberspace. Just lovely. Thanks for letting me know this also happened to you. It is a way to hijack a thread, I guess, and cause division.

Jenny,

They don't treat strep with antibiotics in the UK? I didn't know that. There was an outbreak of scarlet fever (related to strep) last year in the UK, Mike Stevens' son had it. He was treated with antibiotics. I don't think they should start them until at least two days after the sore throat begins, to give the body time to make antibodies, so the problem doesn't recur, but then I think it's probably a good idea, in order to prevent rheumatic fever and other complications. And also just to stop the extremely severe pain.

I agree with stringent testing of potential gun owners to assess them for physical and mental stability. I thought they already did it, but for some reason a lot of people were falling through the cracks. But I think we all agree that Nick Cruz should not have had a gun. He would not have passed any fitness test.

@ Cia Parker,
Just so you know, sadly, there are two different "Someone"s posting on this very thread. I only posted the first "Someone" comment two up from Bob's (which was the very first comment below). Just wanted you to know that. I have yet to read the other "Someone"'s comment or comments, which apparently have been inflammatory in some way.

Confusing, I know. Anyway, I will have to change my "Someone" name to something else now. Just great! Not really, but oh well....

Jenny

I want to make it quite clear I don't know how to disarm the USA and I doubt whether it is possible (I also recognise that in a highly armed society responsible people often bear arms) but the bottom line is that as an ordinary UK citizen I would not know how to acquire a firearm - I would have to belong to some gangland fraternity or something - so really it cannot be any mystery if we have fewer of these incidents. I very much doubt whether we use antibiotics less - we don't have GM food because it has to be properly marked and no one wants to buy it - that's an environmental difference. But you can't shoot anyone if you don't have a gun. There is this very basic issue which is staring people in the face. I also think we would have far fewer of the incidents without SSRIs which act as disinhibitors. While the opportunities for such events to erupt in the UK are relatively minimal I also suspect the wide prescription of these drugs does much harm anyway.

Someone,

So what is your solution for criminals having easy access to illegal guns? How is disarming the innocent going to protect anyone?

Gun nuts on parade! No other country has this issue on this level and the difference is the number of guns. They certainly have mentally ill people and vaccinated people. A commenter says she's getting angry at one party--the dem--for not talking only about mental illness. Guess what it is not only about mental illness. Even people on the terrorist watch list can buy a gun. Even that couldn't pass. Talk about angry. Children are dying shot by machine guns. Whores are taking blood money from the NRA and we are paying for it. They are working for an industry of death over the people who elected them. Everyone knows it. So yeah I am angry at one gutless group but not the one mentioned. And don't accuse me of being partisan. I didn't bring it up but not letting it go without response. By the way law enforcement is for tougher laws. I guess you all know better than people actually doing this work on a daily basis.

Susan

Rutherford is beneath contempt. If anyone wants a single reference:

http://ahrp.org/laffaire-wakefield-shades-of-dreyfus-bmjs-descent-into-tabloid-science/

My articles on his previous mendacious program:

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/12/bbc-trustees-stand-by-groundless-insinuations-against-andrew-wakefield-in-.html

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/06/should-science-betrayed-bbc-producer-have-disclosed-conflict.html

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/04/bbc-struggles-over-science-betrayed-bmj-battens-down-hatches.html

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/04/brian-deer-allowed-to-bluff-his-way-out-of-trouble-on-bbc-radio4.html

Antecedent-Behaviour-Consequence , [A.B.C] What happened to that young lad to make him have such a "Deranged mind implosion "into "The Horrors" Will the public get to know the appropriate details ? to try and make some sense of what went so wrong with this yong lads behaviour and look at future support needs of young folk in similar distress . appropriate details include drug history prescribed and illegal? including vaccinations . gun was used. but he could have used other things as well ,ie knives, hammers, screwdrivers? How Quickly the public can become desensitised ,hardened and saturated with such horrific happenings on the TVnews as "Just another Atrocity " far too quickly people can become chillingly detached from the horror as not really going to have any impact on their own lives? How wrong they are!

Hera

Absolutely - I appreciate all these issues and I was not trying to be smug. But now of course you have legions of cognitively and mentally impaired mostly young people who have gun rights and guns like everyone else, so the nightmare will get worse.

Hi John Stone,

In the UK there is certainly a different culture and view about guns, and the UK is safer because of it.
At the same time, there is no real way to put the gun genie back in the bottle in the US, for several reasons.
( though it may be possible to ban semi automatics , which would be a good thing)

Firstly, the US has far more guns owned by the general population, and getting rid of so many of them would be almost impossible.

Secondly, a fair sized portion of the US population believes it is a patriotic duty to be able to own and use a gun to defend their country at times of need .

Some poorer rural families rely on hunting to supplement their food and consider their guns one of the tools necessary for them to eat.

Also, and this is something far less prevalent in some countries like the UK, where large dangerous animals are not such an issue,many people living in rural US have potentially man and children killing animals coming to visit in their backyards.

Living in the city in the U.S., it is not something you think about, but after you hear a cougar ( mountain lion ) scream and the hair stands up on the back of your neck, or a bear decides to visit the front porch where the grand kids play ( as happened to my friends), or even an elk in rutt is looking to take out a family member, owning a gun and knowing how to use it suddenly seems really sensible.

I love animals, including wild ones, and respect their rights to live and enjoy their habitats, right up until they threaten the safety of my family or my own animals. Many of the older families who live in the wilder areas of the US are very used to quietly taking care of dangerous animals, but they can't do it without guns.

Something does need to change, and weapons such as knives will never be able to cause the same level of devastation as a gun, even with the same intent to kill, but working out how to change things, given how interconnected the whole thing is, is the challenge.

@ Bob Moffitt,

We are 100% in agreement; I was thinking your initial comment citing "guns" did not deserve first priority, as I elaborated thereafter.

cheers! and thanks for your contributions.

I agree, Jeannette, we already HAVE a black market in things like automatic and semi-automatic weapons. Why make it worse? The jihadi who murdered all the people in the Bataclan and nearby massacres had gotten their weapons illegally. As did the murderer in Las Vegas. Why leave ourselves defenseless in the face of evil? We're doing the '30s now in our homeschooling, and I'm really at a loss to try to convey to C the meaning of sending MILLIONS of those who might have a dissenting thought to gulags, KILLING millions of defenseless human beings. We're doing Kristallnacht now and I researched it trying to figure out a concise and accurate way of presenting it. But I found that I had had no idea of the scope. 7,000 Jewish businesses destroyed, 1,000 synagogues destroyed in one night. November 9-10, 1938. I tried to convey to C the savagery of destroying the lives of innocent people, the afraid, the vulnerable, with no place to go for safety. It would have been different if the Jews had been armed, although maybe only to the extent of the moral victory in the Warsaw ghetto. But it's better to die standing than live on your knees. The dark is rising again, and it is a time for wariness and self-defense.

And Americans would NEVER agree to revoke the Second Amendment. Again, why would we? Would there be any way to confiscate every single gun and anything else which might be used as a deadly weapon?

John, last year there was a popular slogan going around: Arm the bobbies. I don't see how arming them could make them more of a target than they are now. It's not as though criminals had any honor code they lived by, and refused to shoot the unarmed. And it would be helpful in saving victims in terrorist attacks before the reinforcements could be called up. Every second counts. And in our current situation, the enemy welcomes death, and does not engage in what we would consider rational calculation. Traditional English civility is gone, probably forever.

Regarding the 2nd amendment I would just add that the corporate media that talks about disease outbreaks in selective ways to push vaccine uptake and vaccine mandates, also talks about shooting incidences in ways that promote criminalizing gun ownership...they do not report on incidences where a crime involving a gun is halted by someone legally armed for instance, and they rarely ever (like NEVER) remind us of the millions killed by governments in the 20th century that first instituted gun registration and then confiscation.

Also, such a fundamental change of the U.S. Constitution (which would only be legally possible by another amendment with 2/3 of states--if my memory is correct--ratifying such an amendment) could create a prime black market (like with prohibition of alcohol done correctly by amendment, like the war on drugs currently instituted largely by extra-constitutional means--is that essentially illegal?), so I think it is incumbent upon us to make sure that we don't have mafia-like groups that would sell arms to the criminals among us before undertaking such a measure.

Cia

I don’t think we can wave a magic wand and make the US the UK, but here the police routinely don’t carry guns - they vote on it often - because they calculate that it will make them targets. If they have a situation which requires weapons they can move in with them rapidly. It isn’t perfect - it can’t be - but at the end of the day you are forty-six times less likely to be shot dead in the UK than in the US. I don’t criticise your father just because he lived in a place where guns proliferated, and the crazy could get hold of them along with the sensible.

But I am afraid if you mix the today’s toxic pharma soup with the availability of killing pieces the result is inevitable - I wonder if you ever read Bernard Rimland’s last masterpiece Dislogic Syndrome?

Angus,

I agree. There are a lot of ways to kill if someone wants to. And Isis is still putting out advice on how to do it most efficiently. Yeah, run people over with a truck, seventy at a crack. Blow them up. Stab them with kitchen knives. I'd rather have someone around with a pistol to stop them from the get-go.

This from the local paper, the Sun-Sentinel:

"His mother, Lynda Cruz, told investigators that her son had been diagnosed with autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. He was being treated for depression, had a behavior disorder and had been taking medication for the ADHD."

Cia

I fully appreciate the difference in our histories and cultures but at the end of day it is so much harder to shoot someone if you haven’t got a gun in the first place.

John,

I think part of what goes along with our society of energetic non-conformists and our loss of respect for authority is a society much more dangerous than Europe was until a few years ago. A lot of drug-related violence here, and gang-related violence in cities like Chiraq. People have a right to guns to protect themselves and others. We are appalled when we read about attacks in Europe in which many are killed because none of the good guys had a gun. At the time of the Orlando attack nearly two years ago, I wrote here that if my father had been there, it wouldn't have been in the news. He would have killed the jihadi as soon as the attacks started. He was an expert marksman, got a lot of awards for it, and he loved his guns. He hid a pistol in the heating vent in my room and a friend looked at it and told me that he had cut an X into the ends of the bullets, to make them explode when they went in (a very dangerous thing for him to have done). Dum-dums. The idea being to protect me. I never needed it, and he never shot anyone in real life, but he was prepared, and I think you should be. I'm not, but it would be better if I were.

I agree that no one outside the armed forces should have an automatic or semi-automatic weapon. It was totally insane on the part of whoever permitted this very disturbed kid to get any kind of weapon, and insane on the part of the family who took him in after his mother died to let him bring his gun. I think this situation was aberrant. I have never known one single person who would EVER have let the kid have a weapon. He was only 19. It was or should have been illegal. And he was disturbed, to say the least.

Once again, I find myself reflecting on those killed and injured, this time in Florida, and the ‘who and why’ of it all. And again, I ask those questions.

I’ve thought of those who were present and responded to deal with this slaughter. The same as I have done and continue to do with individual murders and mass killings for the last 30 plus years.

These events never fail to dredge up a slew of very unpleasant memories and feelings. Memories and feelings of my own personal tragedy And those memories and feelings mix and intertwine with those of current events.

It’s hard to not feel a bond with those responders, victims, and family and friends, when your have been through this all yourself.

The rebounding sentiments are why, and what has changed in our society. And the answer is both simple and complex.

We live in a culture of hate and violence.
A culture where hate and violence is glamorized and touted as a viable solution to ones problems.
A culture where movies and games teach senseless violence and slaughter.
A culture that glamorizes gangs, and the ‘gangsta’ lifestyle and disregard for laws and norms.
A culture where unborn children, the elderly, and the disabled are marginalized and expendable when not convenient.

And all too often, the answer is more hate and violence.

Don’t try to understand those who don’t think and act like you do.
Just get rid of them.

Don’t respect others property or lives.
Just take it from them.

I learned the hard way many years ago the effect that hate and violence has on not only those it is exacted upon, but on the family and friends as well. These are scars I will carry to my grave.

Murder, and by extension, terrorism, is not a gun crime, nor an explosives
crime. It’s not a car problem, nor a pressure-cooker problem.

It is a crime of the heart; a crime of hate.

It’s been around since Cain killed Able; not with a gun, but with hate.

Trying to make these situations into a political argument for gun control is a knee-jerk reaction to a much deeper problem.

A review of fairly recent events shows that guns aren’t the issue. Oklahoma City, 9/11, the Boston Marathon bombing and the Halloween car attack in New York are some shining examples of mass carnage effected without a firearm.

This crime isn’t the last that will happen. It’s merely one of a multitude that has happened over the millennium. And it won’t stop until men change their hearts.

We already have a ton of laws on the books that are either not enforced, or only partially enforced.

We also have some serious mental health issues in this country, and they worsen every day.

We have a large chunk of sociopaths in our population that refuse to be accountable for their actions and behaviors. Rather, they blame it on anything and everything, but their own choices.

We have a government composed of those who refuse to acknowledge the real issues daily, but are happy to push an agenda that benefits their position and their pocketbook.

And we have a society that turns a blind eye and ignores the problems until yet another incident occurs; then it’s time to point fingers again, act indignant, and demand ‘action,’ as if Congress can solve the issues in men’s hearts.
You can’t legislate morals, caring and love.

And perhaps most significantly, we have a spiritual problem in this country and the world. Many have lost their faith, and consequently, their way.

One stormy night in early April, 1985, I learned how life can change in the blink of an eye. How the actions of one or two can alter others lives forever. How man’s inhumanity to man can destroy lives. And I lost my way.

But I also learned that you can overcome anything, and forgive everything, and that hate does not overcome love; unless you allow it too. I learned to regain my faith.
And I eventually found my way.

When evil happens, do good.

When people are suffering or need help, reach out, and give yourself.

When people are lonely and isolated, reach and be a friend; someone who cares.

When people lose faith, show them the light and help them find their way.

And when you feel like laying blame and hate, remember that Jesus forgives you for everything you’ve done. Now it’s your turn.

Mad about the appalling violence and senseless death in this world?

Acknowledge the real underlying problem and work on that.

Aimee,

I think it's that our society was destabilized in its attitude toward authority in the sixties, the Question Authority and Don't Trust Anyone Over Thirty era. In some ways that was bad and in others good, but it's a fait accompli now. Also the loss of religious faith of a large percentage of the population, the loss of any fear of judgment and eternal consequences.

Also that ours was a frontier society in which people had to make decisions for their own protection, without the support of outside authorities. Those who came here were energetic non-conformists. And probably also our position as most-vaccinated country in the world (although I think the UK is competitive in that area.)

@ Dave - "Most of my young classmates, as all around America also had available semi-automatic rifles, and there were NEVER catastrophes like now.

What's just happened again clearly points the finger at prescribed psycho-drugs, initially employed (and then forever) to treat vaccine-damaged kids, brought on by the most destructive document in world history, the U.S. Child Immunization Schedule."

Just one question - England and Australia both have intense vaccination programs - and (presumably) use psychotropic drugs in treatment of mental illness and autism.

BUT - they don't have the shooting massacres that we have in the US. What's your explanation?

Being a loving, biological/adoptive parent in 2018 includes a few more responsibilities than it once did, before our traditional medical providers gave their oath of "First do no harm" over to Pharma, whose oath must be "First, see how much money you can make". Because adoptive parents have no control over their child's pre-natal environment, including birth parents' drug, emotional and wellness histories, at the first sign of anything out of the ordinary, they have to be willing to research help for their child. I would have to say cruelty to animals is the #1 symptom on almost all maladaptive behavior lists, including psychopaths and serial killer. I would hope that was a red flag to this young man's mother - coupled with the death of his father early on. Also, has anyone heard anything about this young man's brother, who his parents also adopted? The news talks about him having a brother, but nothing has been said as to where he is in this whole thing. How did he turn out?
As for this young man's behavioral/emotional status, I hope his lawyers do mount a thorough search of his pre-school to expulsion school history. Did he have an actual diagnosis? Did the school system provide him with a free-and-appropriate education, which all children are suppose to have? I don't understand that if a child has been expelled from two previous schools, you send him on to the next school as if that is going to fix it. Why wasn't he sent to an alternative high school after two previous expulsions? If the Florida governor is serious about making sure that this doesn't happen again, this young man's educational history should be analyzed by an independent entity like Adam Lanza's was to see if the ball was dropped. http://www.ageofautism.com/2017/10/tonic-offers-a-tonic-as-antiodote-to-the-unrealistic-and-downright-insulting-nonsense-of-the-good-do.html
Now for guns. I live in Maryland. You can't buy alcohol or tobacco products before age 21. Neither can you legally purchase a fire arm before age 21. Why in the world would we think someone is not mentally/emotionally ready to buy alcohol or tobacco before age 21, but they can make the leap to critical thinking about gun use before age 21? I am all for youth being able to access appropriate recreational use of fire arms, such as hunting and sports shooting, with family/guardians. But, that should come with a permit that lists the parent/guardian as the liable individual. However, if you know your child has problems with critical thinking, i.e. autism, ADHD, emotional problems, then I agree with the previous statements that guns and these issues don't mix.
All that being said, it is a shame that no one was able to put together that a young man, who already has anger and emotional issues, who has a sudden loss of the only other person who he recognizes loves him (again, nothing has been said about the brother) that his mother's death wouldn't have triggered a complete breakdown.

I've raised a now-adult son with the autism + serious mental illness combo. Are there side effects to the meds? Absolutely! Would he be alive today if it weren't for those meds? Very doubtful (and my son would tell you the same thing). For those who truly have serious mental illness, today's psych meds are so, so much better than anything that was ever around in earlier ages.

Are these meds 'good enough'? NO! Should everyone with mild anxiety/depression/you name it be taking these? NO!

For my son, the serious mental illness clearly pre-dated taking any meds. What preceded all of this was significant immune dysfunction that baffled all of the doctors. So yes, there is something wrong with some of our kids...but it isn't the parenting, the meds they are taking, etc. Something(s) very early in life create some major mis-wiring in the brain. It is a crying shame that this isn't being viewed as a national emergency.

I just found out I was mistaken about Intercoms being standard in public schools since Columbine. The speech therapist just told me that our school district is one of the few in the country with both Intercom-mediated entrance and security cameras. I guess the federal government will have to develop a taxpayer-funded program to pay for yet another of the problems often caused by autism to provide all schools and maybe shopping centers with improved security.

To Nancy G. Taylor...I totally agree with your assessment. Those are the factors ...behind the scene...that are no longer spoken of but involve thenwhole life of a kid of any age... bullying, psychiatric meds, inadequate special needs programs,,etc. I've posted on other sites this same list. This is also one of the main reasons I believe that there should Not be integrated programs that place troubled kids in with the so called typically normal kids and teachers. I doubt the typical teacher has yet had training to recognize and cope with special needs kids. Special needs means what that titles says...kids who have special needs. The same goes for the typical medical person... who,too,often thinks some kind of psychotropic drugs are the answer to the problems with these kids. Former pediatrician was fond of putting all his kid patients diagnosed with autism on a low dose of a 'popular' med. Thank God,,the Father's steadfast refusal led to a mandatory exam with a psychologist who nixed the idea. (From grandma peg).

@bob

Re "I am sure most medications prescribed are useful and effective for a vast majority of those suffering mental health problems" -- these meds are NOT useful and effective, they cause much more harm than good. Studies show they are about as effective as placebo, and that they injure the brain/gut both short- and long-term.

Have you read Dr Kelly Brogan's book, A Mind of Your Own? https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Your-Own-Depression-Reclaim/dp/0062405578/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518805821&sr=8-1&keywords=kelly+brogan+a+mind+of+your+own -- highly recommended.

Also Dr Rimland's excellent book, Dyslogic Syndrome, https://www.amazon.com/Dyslogic-Syndrome-Attention-Disordered-Depressed-Aggressive/dp/1843108771/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1518805848&sr=1-1&keywords=rimland+dyslogic

I agree entirely, Greg. There is plenty of research showing that autistic young people are more likely to be violent than others, as we noted a few weeks ago, when we were discussing the Kologi killings. We know a number of autism families who have to deal with violent children, and they get precious little help from social services, because many services for autistic children are withdrawn if they become violent. This is the one type of domestic violence that no one (certainly not the Autism Society) wants to discuss. And of course it will only get worse and worse if we continue to deny that it's happening. That said, it may well be that SSRIs (which are often prescribed for autistic patients) are aggravating the problem.

The Wall Street Journal confirms that Cruz's defense lawyers are gathering his "mental-health history and will explore the possibility he had autism."

I also worked with Dr Pfeiffer and Maureen McDonnell at the Princeton Brain Bio Center. We cured mental illness by supplying the brain with the nutrients it needed as determined by blood, hair and urine testing, detoxing, and promoting a healthy diet. The hard part was weaning people off the psych drugs. SSRI antidepressants have been known almost since their beginning to cause suicidal and homicidal feelings in some patients, especially adolescents. There is even a black box warning. Almost all the school shooters were on these antidepressants. (The drug status of two of them is unknown.) Anyone who is considered depressed is put on them. They make some people much worse. Dr William Walsh, who named his treatment center after Pfeiffer, studied serial killers and mass murderers in the California prison system decades ago. All were high in heavy metals lead and cadmium, according to hair analysis. Walsh has determined 5 different types of depression, biochemically, only one of which responds to SSRIs. Others are made worse. The answer is not more mental "health" treatment, if it is of the conventional type. Look for orthomolecular, integrative, or functional medicine practitioners. Bonnie Camo MD

I just finished carefully reading ALL the comments. And I was feeling so GOOD, that most of what I had to say, was already being said, by others in their comments. That's until I read "bob moffit's" comment.
WOW!, NO!, Bob, just NO!.... I'm not picking on you, Bob. You're a very frequent commenter here, and I usually agree 99% with everything you say. But you're sadly behind the curve on the subject of "psych drugs", and the general state of the so-called "mental health" field. It's a *MESS*. My best suggestion, again, is to visit >madinamerica.com<, and >beyondmeds.com<. I'd also strongly suggest these books:
"Mad in America", and "Anatomy of an Epidemic", both by Mr. Robert Whitaker, and available on the "madinamerica" website. Also, "The Myth of Mental Illness", by Dr. Thomes Szasz, (the 2010 edition has an excellent updated author's foreword.) Also "Toxic Psychiatry", by Dr. Peter Breggin, (also mentioned above in the comment from "cherry Misra") I can't say this next piece often enough, or loud enough: Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a drug racket, and a means of social control. It's 21st Century Phrenology, with potent neuro-toxins. The DSM-5 is nothing more than a catalog of billing codes. ALL of the alleged "diagnoses" in it were INVENTED, or created, not "discovered", to serve as excuses to $ELL DRUG$, and label and stigmatize folks. So-called "mental illnesses" are exactly as "real" as presents from Santa Claus, but not more real. No, I'm not denying that sometimes some people "go crazy", but they do usually "come back" on their own. I'm not denying that there ARE indeed a tiny percentage of "crazy people". I'm not denying the huge swell of pain, suffering, heartache, heartbreak, anxiety, depression, etc., etc., etc., But psychiatry and psych DRUGS, (they are NOT "meds", or "medications", - that's bogus psychobabble....), are only making things worse, especially in the long run. Psych drugs are far more dangerous, less safe, less effective, and less necessary, than you've been led to believe. So, unless we are all going to commit mass suicide, yes, *YES!*, we ALL do have to "find a way to live with this". We're only as sick as the secrets we keep, and the lies we tell each other. I heard about some guy who said, about 2,000 years ago, that "YOU shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set YOU FREE". There are rich and powerful forces, rich and powerful men, whole industries who do NOT want you to know the truth, or even think clearly. I'd say that's evil. It's ok to be upset and hurting emotionally over this latest shooting, but we need to feel our feelings, process them, get over them, and proceed from the clearest, calmest, coolest heads we can manage. The media wants us upset, angry, and divided, fighting amongst ourselves. What most impresses me about "Age of Autism", is how little fighting and arguing we see in the comment section! Even when we disagree, we do it so agreeably!....
KEEP UP the GOOD WORK, PEOPLE!

(c)2018, Tom Clancy, Jr., *NON-fiction

Infowars lady explaining how a lad held his classmates up for 45mins with a rifle and couldn't remember a thing about whilst of meds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y32jC8vATTM

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP

To bob moffit and all others here- Please take out the time to watch the youtube videos by Dr. Peter Goetzshe and Peter Breggin.. One is entitled: Psychiatric Drugs Harm- Seven Brain Impairment and Withdrawal. Dr. Peter Goetzshe is a leading scientist of Europe and very troubled by what he has come to know about the anti depressant and anti psychotic drugs. There are a number of videos on this topic and I would have to say that I almost feel like a changed person after watching just a few of them. I can think of at least one person whom I could have warned not to take antipsychotic drugs. These drugs , over time cause brain damage that can be seen on an MRI and they are extremely difficult to stop. Please, everyone - Watch these videos.

"What do you think has happened to American children?"

Two hundred forty two years after this country declared independence from tyranny, America has managed to create conditions far worse than anything King George could have thought up. Our people are ignorant, drugged, malnourished, poisoned, sterilized, irradiated (including from the cell phone, tablet, wi-fi, "assistants", etc. that few will give up even to save their own children and that increasingly pervade virtually all of America's institutions and schools), deprived of nature that is being destroyed (as if it were a race to see who can eradicate it first), propagandized, manipulated and controlled.

I'm sure I missed a few points of attack, but that's the gist. And being young is no excuse to avoid the abuse. There is no mercy for anyone, especially fetuses who are treated to as much mercury and other crap by injection as authorities can figure out how to deliver via their unsuspecting mothers.

The narrative being pushed - the official answer to the question, is simply that there is evil in this world. That some people are just evil. These school shooters are evil and we must all arm to protect ourselves from the evil. Evil vs. good and guns to solve the problem.

We didn't have school shootings in the 1950's and 60's (and 70's?). Why is that? What happened? What changed?

There is evil alright.

Having worked as a nurse at the Princeton Brain Bio Center started by Carl Pfeiffer, MD, PhD (author of Mental & Elemental Nutrients & colleague of Abram Hoffer) I witnessed some transformations of patients with mental illness. Their progress was often slow but came about as a result using targeted supplements, dietary strategies, gut rehab, allergy & heavy metal treatments, IV nutrients, detox etc. Unfortunately, insurance companies would not pay for these non pharmaceutical, non money making but effective approaches & eventually the Brain-Bio Center had to close. Whenever possible I council parents who have kids with mental issues to find an integrative physician and or an orthomolecular psychiatrist. But they're not easy to find & although it’s sad & frustrating the truth is a lot of patience, perserverence & a hefty financial investment are required.

The Columbine tragedy happened almost 20 years ago. Before Columbine, I don't remember any mass school shootings.

So we have a generation of kids who have been seriously damaged. I think a lot of factors play into this: an out of control vaccine schedule (due to pharma buying up Congress, media, agencies, etc.); toxins in air, food, water (because corporations put profit before people); inadequate education and (sometimes harmful) mental health care.

I hope that we learn more about what was going on this young man's life. What was his diagnosis? Was he on medications? What's the story with the gun?

The meds used for mental illness are ridiculously ineffective. I have personal experience in this area. The heroic--and often highly effective--efforts of Dr. Abram Hoffer and his associates have been all but forgotten. He treated mental illness holistically starting in 1955 and his books can be found on Amazon. Also killing animals which this young man did is a sign a type of mental illness that actually decreased in a study of intensive sauna treatment done by an armed forces doctor in California. This implies toxins might be involved--not surprising. Chelation, thyroid supplementation, mega vitamin and mineral supplementation, eliminating dairy and gluten have all been seen to CURE some individuals with severe mental illness or lower the symptoms to a manageable level. Make no mistake about it: by not using and embracing and researching these methods psychiatry is sentencing people to a lifetime of vicious suffering. It is hardly surprising that some lash out, realizing they have no future. Being young, male, mentally ill and losing your mother plus here's an assault rifle--where is the surprise? Pharma and especially psychiatrists have sold out their patients. I can say from extensive personal experience that while medications have a place, they will never bring someone like this back to health. I am mentally healthy now but ANGRY. The suffering, the fleecing of family happiness and finances, seeing other people believe psychiatrists over you--it's all a huge drag that is about spineless psychiatrists who decided not to be doctors but pharma reps. People with mental illness are physically ill. Unless that is addressed it won't get better. Anyone in this situation might start by contacting Truehope .com, a Canadian organization started by someone whose daughter recovered using a mineral mixture that farmers gave to troubled pigs! They now offer help and guidance and supplementation. Also check out Hoffer's books, esp for schizophrenia.

I`m lost for words as well, but its not to do with Autism just the meds.Cocaine based substances in the meds to calm people down?The Quck -Dr thinking being that because of under stimulation of the brain and the person actively stimulating themselves constantly if they give them meds it takes away the self stimulation -problem solved- NOT! just another money spinner for Pharma and these kids have paid the ultimate price.

Pharma For Prison

MMR RIP