Trump, The Doctor, Vaccine Scandal and Media Bias on Both Sides of the Pond
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Trump, The Doctor and the Vaccine Scandal Part 2 "I Don't Talk To Fake News"

File a reportBy Anne Dachel

Part Two

Cathy Newman's two part series on vaccines was really a witch hunt. This was not investigative reporting; Wakefield was demonized, autism as a devastating condition is never addressed—in fact, Newman made Dr. Krigsman, who works with victims of vaccine-related bowel disease, look like a child abuser.

Newman even made an attempt to publicly embarrass Wakefield in Berlin at a showing of ‘Vaxxed.’ It’s all in this report.

May 8, 2017, Dispatches: Trump, the Doctor & the Vaccine Scandal [Part 2]

“…And another Trump scientific myth endangers the health of America’s children. He believes combined or multiple vaccines cause autism. Last year he met disgraced British scientist, Andrew Wakefield, who left Britain after his work linking the MMR jab with autism was debunked.  But with Trump’s support, he’s riding high again and seducing audiences with scare stories.”

Clip of Wakefield: “Safe, effective vaccines against serious infectious disease, laudable. Do any vaccines on the market today meet those criteria? No, they don’t.”

“Texas, now Wakefield’s home state. Home too to one of the strongest anti-vaccine movements in America. It has some of the most relaxed vaccination laws in the country. Forty-five thousand children are unvaccinated here, but some mums and dads fear Wakefield’s rhetoric is putting other children at risk.

A toddler is shown. This child had a heart transplant as an infant, and Newman explained that any infection could be fatal.

Newman: “At any one time in America, there are thought to be half a million people like Julianna who can’t be vaccinated because they’re too young or not well enough. Their main protection from serious disease is that the rest of us are vaccinated so they can’t catch anything from us.”

Newman directed a question at the girl’s mother.

“To what extent do you think Andrew Wakefield is responsible for a large number of parents not getting their children vaccinated?”

“I think that’s a huge reason because of the misinformation, because they are scared, and I think fear drives a lot of this.”

Newman: “But there’s an even more serious allegation against Wakefield. He’s been accused of exploiting the very children he says he wants to help. He’s long believed that not only is the MMR jab linked to autism, but that the condition can be treated.

“Four years ago he came up with the controversial idea of making the treatment of autistic children into a reality TV series. He pitched to some of America’s biggest Cable networks.

“We found the pitch tape which contains disturbing images. Autistic children are filmed self-harming, and a fourteen year old boy has intrusive treatment, with cameras and tubes going into his rectum and throat.

“We’ve chosen to conceal the identity of the children, Wakefield didn’t.

“Julia Bascom campaigns for equal rights for autistic people; she is herself autistic.”

Bascom is shown criticizing the treatment for autistic enterocolitis as “autistic people being dehumanized and being used as objects to advance other people’s agendas.”

Newman: “What about the ethics of filming of a teenager having a colonoscopy there?”

Bascom: “So the litmus test we tend to use is: ‘Would you do this to a non-autistic child?’ and I think pretty clearly we wouldn’t show on film a non-autistic teenager getting a colonoscopy?”

Newman: “No one commissioned the series, but it still runs on Wakefield’s Youtube channel.

“Inspired by his success in America, Wakefield is now back in Europe, and even Britain. Eleven weeks ago, he attended a secret viewing of his film ‘Vaxxed’ in London. I finally caught up with him at a screening in Berlin.”

Clip of Newman questioning Wakefield from the audience at a Q and A in Berlin.

Newman: “Mr. Wakefield, you are behind a massive public health scare in the UK. You were struck off, and you’re now exporting your discredited theories to America and around the world.”

Wakefield: “It’s a reasonable question from a British journalist. You will be aware, I hope, that the film is not about me. The film is about a whistleblower from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who actually validates the work that we did in 2000.

So in fact, it is the British press who are discredited when they attack this hypothesis, because it turns out all these years later to be correct.”

Newman: “He has concerns about one case. What about the seventeen studies that debunked your original 1998 study?”

Newman continued.

“Isn’t what you’re doing grossly irresponsible because in your home state of Texas alone, 45,000 thousand children are unvaccinated? And measles is a killer.

“Mr. Wakefield, you’ve been talking about a fraud perpetrated by the CDC, about a fraud by the media. What about the fact that the General Medical Council accused you of being dishonest, accused you of being callous, unethical? The BMJ said that your own data was fraudulent. When are you going to talk responsibility for that?”

Wakefield: “Can you quote me in full on this?”

Newman: “Of course.”

Wakefield: “I don’t talk to fake news.”

Newman trailing after Wakefield: “You talk about fake news though, and you’re the one who’s accused of dishonesty, you’re the one who’s accused of falsifying your data. When do you take responsibility for that?”

Newman: “Wakefield was invited to respond to other issues raised in this program, but declined to do so.”

Clip of March for Science in Washington, D.C.

Newman: “Two weeks ago scientists took to the streets in Washington to protest against Trump. They aren’t just battling a President, they’re battling a movement which dismisses science as ‘fake news.’

“But there’s nothing fake about the mumps outbreak which has just been announced in Wakefield’s home state of Texas.”

Anne Dachel is Media Editor for Age of Autism.

Comments

cia parker

ATSC,

Not only that, but children in developed, First World countries, should be given vitamin A as well. The measles virus uses up existing stores of vitamin A very fast.

A 1992 California study found that half of children hospitalized with measles were deficient in vitamin A, while none of the uninfected controls showed any deficiency. "We studied 20 children with measles in Long Beach, CA, and found that 50% were vitamin A deficient. This frequency among presumably well-nourished American children supports evaluation of vitamin A status as a part of acute management of measles in the US." Antonio Arrieta, MD, "Vitamin A Levels in Children with Measles in Long Beach, CA," The J of Pediatrics, July 1992, p 75.

Measles vaccination depletes the body of vitamin A as well as the natural disease. Dr. Songúl Yalçin, "Sex-Specific Differences in Serum Vitamin A Values After Measles Immunization," The Ped Inf Dis J, 1999, p 747. "Previous studies have shown excess mortality and immune abnormalities among girls immunized with high titer measles vaccine 2 to 4 years after immunization...our results showed that serum vitamin A concentrations were depressed after measles vaccination, irrespective of whether it was the monovalent or combined measles vaccine."

ATSC

Cia: "If measles patients all took vitamin A and no fever reducers, and stayed home for three weeks, there would be almost no deaths. "

Yes, and sufficient vitamin A is very important. From the WHO's Measles Fact Sheet:

"All children in developing countries diagnosed with measles should receive two doses of vitamin A supplements, given 24 hours apart. This treatment restores low vitamin A levels during measles that occur even in well-nourished children and can help prevent eye damage and blindness. Vitamin A supplements have been shown to reduce the number of deaths from measles by 50%. "

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/


cia parker

Eindeker,

Dr. Langmuir said around 1960 that the measles fatality rate in children between three and ten was less than one in 10,000 cases. Between three and four million a year got measles then, nearly all of them children. 99% had gotten natural immunity by the age of 18. At 450 deaths a year out of four million, that would be 1.125 deaths in 10,000 cases. If you say 400 deaths out of 3,000,000 cases, it's almost the same, 1.3 deaths out of 10,000. Measles continues to be a usually relatively mild disease, and the only death two years ago was in a severely immunocompromised woman in whom they didn't even diagnose measles until after her death. Same as in Wales five years ago, the only fatality a severely immunocompromised adult man.

Over a year ago, ATSC replied to you on the great increase in SSPE deaths. "And yet the rate has climbed from 1 in 117,647 (1960-1974 CDC - MMWR 1982) to about 1 in 11 000 (_1 in 2000 for infants_), and according to JusttheVax site: "The current cluster of SSPE cases indicates that the risk of SSPE for infants who contract measles lies closer to 1 in 200". If this happened at all in the pre-vaccine era, it happened rarely because infants were protected by maternal antibodies and natural herd immunity. Vaccination has made measles a dangerous disease for infants.
What struck me in the paper, for two reasons, is the high percentage of SSPE cases who were vaccinated and did not have a history of natural measles. It is said that these cases "should not be attributed to the vaccine; all available evidence points to such cases being due to undiagnosed or unrecorded natural infection, which can be very mild".
Posted by: ATSC | October 20, 2015 at 12:38 AM

As ATSC observed, it has become much more common now, especially in babies, because the mothers no longer have natural immunity to give to their infants. It was better before. And there have been cases in which SSPE was caused by the vaccine, not the natural disease.

As to measles encephalitis, Dr. Michaela Glockler reports that one in a thousand cases is a great exaggeration, that it was really closer to one in 10,000 cases, one in 15,000 toddlers, and that the prognosis was fairly good. Around a quarter died of it and a quarter was brain-damaged, but the rest made a full recovery. So one death in 40,000 cases from encephalitis, with most deaths being caused by measles pneumonia, which is mild if it's viral and usually treatable with antibiotics if it's bacterial. Most of the deaths in 1989 were because the children got pneumonia and the parents didn't get medical attention for them.

Cathy Newman is behaving irresponsibly when she says that measles is a killer. One death in 10,000 cases is a very low mortality rate which does not make it a killer. If measles patients all took vitamin A and no fever reducers, and stayed home for three weeks, there would be almost no deaths. None in previously healthy patients who are well-nursed. I think Newman's blatant fear mongering disqualifies her from having anything she says taken seriously.

Hans Litten

Podcast :

The Infectious Myth - Judy Mikovitz on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Autism, Viruses and Medical Corruption Summary - 05.23.17


Judy Mikovits is a PhD scientist who was worked for government and drug companies studying viruses. She crossed some powerful people and ended up in jail for mysterious reasons. Did this have something with her persistence in saying that a virus might be involved in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Autism? But, unlike most virologists, she also believes that toxins play a large role. For example, a large outbreak of CFS at a Los Angeles hospital in the 1930s – only among staff – might have been due to the fact that they were being experimented on my the experimental Brodie polio vaccine. If virology confuses you, this discussion might make clarify some things.:

Judy Mikovits is author, along with Kent Heckenlively, of the new book, “Plague”. Find out more at: http://tmarcinc.org

https://infectiousmyth.podbean.com/

ATSC

Eindeker,

"The number of annual measles notifications in the UK had been consistent at about 0.5m per year since 1940, which equates to 1 death per 5000 cases. "...."the CDC case fatality rate of 1-2 per 1000 is probably too high"

So you would have to agree that when the CDC tells parents what that they "need to know about measles" is a lie i.e.

"1 or 2 out of 1,000 people with measles will die, even with the best care ".

Parents and Cathy Newman should ask themselves "Who dies and Why?" Anyone infected by measles who dies is counted as a measles death regardless of their age or state of health.

From the National Vital Statistics Reports Volume 63, Number 9, there were two deaths from measles in 2012. One person was aged between 55 and 64, and the other was 85 or older. Eighty-five! And yet this measles-associated death was counted as a death from measles and parents are led to believe that the CDC's exaggerated mortality rate applies to their healthy children - "even with the best care".

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

Regarding the woman who died in 2015. Few details are given about her except that she had "several other health conditions and was on medications that contributed to a suppressed immune system” , the measles infection she had wasn't discovered until after her death, and she had no clinical symptoms of measles. She could have been a homeless, malnourished drug addict for all we know.

As a pro-vaxxer you would most likely claim that vaccines are safe and there is something wrong with people who suffer vaccine-associated injury or death, and instead of blaming the vaccine would blame an underlying disorder or a per-existing condition, but when it's an elderly or immune-compromised person who becomes infected with measles and dies, you simply blame the virus, dismiss their age and state of health, count them as deaths from measles, and tell parents that the chance of their healthy child dying from this disease could be as high as 1 in 500, or even 1 in 300. It isn't the truth and you and the CDC must know it and yet pro-vaxxers perpetuate the myth that measles is a dangerous disease for healthy, school-aged children, and trumpet the "vaccines are safe" propaganda knowing full-well that they are dangerous, cause injury and kill.

Regardless of what the measles-associated death rate was pre-vaccine, which without reliable data from that era nobody knows, it obviously wasn't as high as the CDC claims it is today. As many of us have said, measles was not a big deal when we were growing up, and our parents and even our grandparents weren't concerned about it.

Doug Troutman

Measles and Mump were not a big deal when I grew up. Paralytic Polio was the only child hood disease anyone talked about. There were five kids that were diagnosed with polio before I was born.
It was in the summer time. This Newman women is full of crap just like Brian Deer.

Rtp

The simple fact is there is zero evidence that a single person in history has been harmed by the so called measles virus. Unlike for vaccines we have no temporal association between the virus and symptoms because we have no idea when the virus first entered the body - assuming the virus is exogenous.

And it is worse than that because vaccines have challenge and rechallenge. Viruses don't even have challenge!

There is a plethora of evidence vaccines cause harm and none that viruses do.

Rtp

Ok thanks Eindecker. So you've confirmed that if someone has any sort of an injury with any of the physiological effects of a previous vaccine in them, you accept that this is sufficient proof of causation. Just as you claim that measles virus detected in a patient with encephalitis is definitive proof of causation.

So thanks for that.

We can now conclude that you accept that hundreds of millions of deaths and injuries have been caused by vaccines.

Jeannette Bishop

https://www.facebook.com/wearevaxxed/videos/460845367596078/

kws

ok, so lets tie this together in a reasonable manner. Measles versus the triple jab. In the French crisis described, 22 SAEs out of 15,000 cases, or .15 %.

In 2017 California kindergartners, the lower limit for SAEs is 1.6% and the upper 7.3%. Asthma and death are not included. Draw your conclusions.

California Kindergarten 2015-2016 2014-2015 y/y
Intellectual Disability 1,922 1,841 4%
Hard of Hearing 524 451 16%
Deaf 207 202 2%
Speech or Language Impairment 23,461 22,623 4%
Visual Impairment 155 161 -4%
Emotional Disturbance 132 106 25%
Orthopedic Impairment 648 631 3%
Other Health Impairment 1,816 1,693 7%
Specific Learning Disability 1,111 1,101 1%
Deaf- Blindness - - -
Multiple Disability 330 317 4%
Autism 8,281 7,105 17%
Traumatic Brain Injury 54 53 2%
  Total Kindergarten 38,641 36,284 6%

Total Enrollment Kindergarten 530,531 511,985

Disability Rate (Percent) 7.3% 7.1%
(Incidence, 1 in x) 14 14

Autism Rate (Percent) 1.6% 1.4%
(Incidence, 1 in x) 64 72

http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/

Eindeker

Bayermom: the link to the measles deaths immediately prior to the introduction of measles vaccine is here: https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html Comparable statistics for the UK are here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles-deaths-by-age-group-from-1980-to-2013-ons-data/measles-notifications-and-deaths-in-england-and-wales-1940-to-2013
About 100 people per year were dying of measles in the UK during the decade prior to the introduction of vaccination in 1968, which coincides with US figures allowing for the c 5 times greater US population.
The number of annual measles notifications in the UK had been consistent at about 0.5m per year since 1940, which equates to 1 death per 5000 cases. The UK vaccination program started in 1968 which is when both the annual number of deaths began to fall and also the number of notifications.
Re the SSPE here’s the latest analysis of German statistics http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0068909 The risk of developing SSPE for children contracting measles infection below 5 years of age was calculated as 1∶1700 to 1∶3300. This risk is in the same order of magnitude as the risk of a fatal acute measles infection.
In 2011, the peak year for the recent French outbreak of measles, there were nearly 15 000 cases and six deaths reported. Sixteen patients developed neurological complications and 650 suffered severe respiratory complications, http://ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications/Publications/SUR_EMMO_European-monthly-measles-monitoring-February-2012.pdf so in this modern Western European country the case fatality rate was 1 in 2,500. A high % of the French cases were unvaccinated https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3647670/
So, yes, the CDC case fatality rate of 1-2 per 1000 is probably too high judging by recent outbreaks, 1 fatality per 2-3000 cases seems nearer the mark.
But of course that leaves the question of where Mr Bigtree is getting his “alternative facts” from: he shouted Cathy Newman down with blatantly false information: 1 measles death per 300,000 cases pre-vaccine, that’s only understating the risk by a factor of 37.5….He’s Wakefield’s right hand man but doesn’t know this basic fact of how many people were dying from measles in the US before vaccination???
Anyone care to provide evidence to substantiate his claim, otherwise Bigtree is lying or his knowledge of measles is lamentably poor.

RTP: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-us-records-its-first-measles-death-in-12-years-10365233.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2774513 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9270728

Linda1

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As always, follow the money.

Linda1

Eindecker,

"The US mortality rate for measles just before the first vaccine was introduced was 1 in 8000 but also 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles. This doesn't include long term deaths due to SSPE which a recent German study calculated were equivalent to the short term mortality."

I don't know where you got the rest of your claims which don't fit with the history I lived through (pre vaccine era never knew anyone to be hospitalized or to get sick from measles), but I have seen the CDC's pre vaccine (1950's) measles mortality report to be 1 in 10,000 cases. So are you admitting that what the CDC is teaching medical students and everyone else now, that measles mortality is 1-2 in 1000 cases, is false?

susan

Oops! My previous post was a letter I wrote to Channel 4 Dispatches before the dreadful 'documentary' aired. I had tried to put an explanation with it, but am not used to copying and pasting from 'documents' and failed. I did received the usual bland reply stating 'the investigation was carried out fully within the Broadcasting code' Ethical doctors and scientists can be vilified and, as long as it falls within the Broadcasting code, that's alright!

susan

I understand that you will be doing a 'hatchet job' on Dr Andrew Wakefield next Monday. I saw your reporter, Cathy Newman, interviewing Del Bigtree and Dr Toni Bark recently and, quite honestly, she didn't have a clue about the reality of vaccine injury. I enclose copies of letters I have sent to the Department of Health this year which set out some facts on this subject.

As far as Dr Wakefield is concerned, it may be appropriate to remind you that he was not the only author of the Lancet Study. There were another 12 who all signed off on it. Professor Walker Smith
won his appeal against the GMC and Dr Wakefield would have had the same result if his insurance had covered an appeal.

However, the important fact to remember is that the study only recommended more research was needed into the possible link between MMR and autism and, in the meantime, single vaccines should be used. It was the British Government/Department of Health that withdrew the single measles vaccine and decided not to research the possible link. They, therefore, are entirely responsible for the increase in children, and now young adults, on the autism spectrum.

To families of vaccine injured children, especially those who regressed into autism after the MMR vaccine, it is abhorrent that Dr Wakefield is constantly vilified and used as an excuse for media, Health Authorities and Governments to persuade families to vaccinate.

It is nearly 20 years since the Lancet study, so why on earth are you still giving it air time. Surely you should be researching why the autism rate has gone from 1:10,000 30 years ago to 1:45 now?

I despair, for the quality of investigative journalism, for the future generation and for those that will have to look after them..

The above is a letter I wrote to Channel 4 Dispatches before the airing of the dreadful programme. Yesterday I received a response from them saying 'this investigation was carried out fully within the Broadcasting Code'. So that's all right then!

ATSC

Eindeker,

"The US mortality rate for measles just before the first vaccine was introduced was 1 in 8000 but also 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles."

So you would agree that Cathy Newman was wrong when she told Del Bigtree that the death rate from measles was 1 in 1000?

The CDC actually says: "In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year an estimated 400 to 500 people died..." so these figures were estimates based on estimates.

So is the CDC telling parents the truth when they make this claim?

"1 or 2 out of 1,000 people with measles will die, even with the best care ".
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/parents-top4.html

Has the death rate climbed from a guesstimated 1 in 8000 in the pre-vaccine era to 1-2 in 1000 in the well-vaccinated 21st century?

If people in the 1960s were dying from measles at a rate of 1 in 1000 or 1 in 500, there would have been between 3000 to 8000 measles deaths per year instead of 300 to 400, based on the CDC's own estimates. Do you really imagine that CDC experts missed 2,700- 7,600 deaths from measles every year or do you think their claim in 2017 that " 1 or 2 out of 1,000 people with measles will die, even with the best of care" could be described as fear mongering?

rtp

Eindecker, give me one single case of a measles virus induced death using the exact same standard of evidence that you demand for deaths following a vaccine. And that doesn't include somebody's opinion.

Just one.

If you can't then we will all know that everything you believe about this issue is a lie.

go Trump

The President needs to do something similar to the “Going to Mars clip” ... with Dr. Andrew Wakefield on sitting one side and Dr. William Thompson of the CDC sitting on the other.

He could announce a new Mission to return Autism rates from 1 in 42 back to 1 in 10,000 in his First term.

He could VOID any and all vaccine mandates in the United States, demand that the MMR vaccine be broken up into three separate vaccines and appoint Dr.Wakefield to head the CDC.

The past few CDC directors probably need to be indicted.

Carol

Newman should read Dr. David Lewis's excellent book, Science for Sale. In it he suggests that the "Autistic Enterocolitis" article Deer published in 2010 is taken wholesale from a report Ian Booth prepared for the GMC in 2006. At the GMC's specific request, Prof. Booth used the children's routine pathology reports and compared them to Table 1 in the Lancet article. But Wakefield didn't use routine pathology reports to create the table. He used blinded grading sheets prepared by expert pathologists Dr. Dhillon and Dr. Anthony.

Dr. Lewis provided the BMJ with the grading sheets, photomicrographs of the children's biopsy slides, Anthony's PowerPoint presentation in which he explained how the photomicrographs demonstrated colitis and affidavits from Dhillon and Anthony stating that they fully approved the Lancet manuscript.

Bayareamom

..."The US mortality rate for measles just before the first vaccine was introduced was 1 in 8000 but also 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles. This doesn't include long term deaths due to SSPE which a recent German study calculated were equivalent to the short term mortality..."

Can you provide a link to your info. above, please?

Eindeker

Cia
My point was that Cathy Newman has been chastised here for just asking for answers from Wakefield, whereas Bigtree is held on a pedestal, beyond reproach.
However in the YouTube clip Bigtree is clearly shouting Newman down with alleged facts that are actually just plain wrong, he's got the numbers wrong saying things that are absolutely not true, but these are so core to his interest in VAXXED that it is inconceivable he didn't know what he was saying is incorrect.
The US mortality rate for measles just before the first vaccine was introduced was 1 in 8000 but also 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles. This doesn't include long term deaths due to SSPE which a recent German study calculated were equivalent to the short term mortality.

So Cia, do you now agree that what Bigtree was saying to Cathy Newman was factually incorrect? If that is the case how can you trust whatever else he has to say or promote on this subject????

cia parker

Eindeker

But the 400-500 deaths from measles in the US before the vaccine were out of four MILLION cases a year, the entire birth cohort, which makes four or five hundred deaths a small number. Most of these deaths were in children already immunocompromised: it doesn't mean their deaths were not a tragedy, but they were probably going to die of something at a young age anyway. If parents knew to give vitamin A to measles patients, to NOT give any fever reducers, and to keep them quiet at home for three weeks, then severe damage and deaths would be reduced to even fewer than the 1960 rate.

And natural measles confers many benefits, while the vaccine causes innumerable cases of severe, permanent damage, even death. These additional facts must be taken into account when considering the very low mortality of measles in 1960.

annie

Wow! They are just HANDING Donald Trump his post presidential media empire! The conglomerate that puts the scientists who assert the reality of vaccine induced autism at its helm will supersede Pharma add dollars as nothing is more important to people then the protection of their children. NOT having an explanation for why it is SO many American children will never live independently is soon going to be more unpopular then looking at what SO many people on line are finding out. Whether or not "liberal" media outlets admit it, Donald Teump holds the key to the issue that can parlay him into an eternal position of power that Rupert Murdoch and his bench man Brian Deer could only dream of.

Bob Moffit

I was stunned to read that Texas has 45,000 unvaccinated children .. which raises the obvious question .. how many of those 45,000 unvaxxed children are diagnosed with "regressive" autism? Is the rate of "regressive" autism be significantly higher in 45,000 VACCINATED children of Texas?

I mean how hard would that be to do?

As the parent of a 4 year old girl .. who had her spleen surgically removed after being diagnosed with Idiopatic Thrombopenia (sic?) .. I fully understand the mom's justifiable distress regarding her daughter's severely compromised immune system .. however .. I learned over the last 50 years that my daughter's ITP .. once a complete medical mystery .. is now listed as a possible adverse reaction to the DPT vaccine .. which she received as a child. The only reason I know today is because ITP was among the many disorders and complications afflicting our heavily vaccinated Gulf War Veterans.

In any event .. I sincerely hope this mom has been made aware that physicians and public health officials know that recently vaccinated individuals can spread disease and that contact with the immunocompromised can be especially dangerous.

For example, the Johns Hopkins Patient Guide warns the immunocompromised to “Avoid contact with children who are recently vaccinated,” and to “Tell friends and family who are sick, or have recently had a live vaccine (such as chicken pox, measles, rubella, intranasal influenza, polio or smallpox) not to visit.”

Indeed .. a statement on the website of St. Jude’s Hospital warns parents not to allow people to visit children undergoing cancer treatment if they have received oral polio or smallpox vaccines within four weeks, have received the nasal flu vaccine within one week, or have rashes after receiving the chickenpox vaccine or MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine.

I think Ms Newman should have warned that mom about the potential risks of the recently VACCINATED child .. instead of using her justified concerns for her daughter's well-being as an opportunity to blame unvaccinated children for being more dangerous to her daughter's health.

Has Ms Newman even heard of "shedding"? Does she know that newborn infants are at risk if they are exposed to recently vaccinated adults who received the DPT?

Birgit Calhoun

Well put! It has to be remembered that hopefully science is always evolving. At a time when we have someone talk about "alternative news" as if it were acceptable, it becomes imperative for bona fide scientists to push back. I think the walk for science was important, but it did nothing for the problems that relate to who pays for the science. The companies who do that often pay somebody to make up studies that fit their agendas. It seems that Universities are partly to blame because they get and accept support from industry. The universities are corrupted by their dependence on this type of money.

Eindeker

Anne whatever you may think of Cathy Newman she is a senior investigative reporter with a respected news program which has a reputation for being left of centre in its news coverage.
Newman even made an attempt to publicly embarrass Wakefield in Berlin at a showing of ‘Vaxxed> In an open presentations when he asked for questions Anne, how does that compare to videoing (assumed) CDC employees being harangued when they trying to go to work or just marching up to Pan when he's in his workplace?
She asked Wakefield to give an interview but he just ran off muttering "fake news"

But far more worrying is this video clip, not used in the program, of Newman talking to Bigtree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqt8Cz2nLk
Either Bigtree is lying or his knowledge of measles is lamentably poor. Right at the beginning he states the death rate in 1963, before the vaccine came along was 0.036 per 100,000 people who got measles claiming the figures were from the CDC site he then goes on to say 1 in 300,000 people who got measles died, that's technically a zero and measles wasn't killing anybody before the vaccine arrived

The actual death rate from measles on the CDC website is 1 in 8000, with 400-500 deaths/year from measles immediately prior to the introduction of the first measles vaccine https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

He then states there have been 100 deaths from measles vaccine in the last 10 years, in fact there are 36 death notifications on the VAERS database post MMR in the last 10 years many with other serious medical conditions, including bizarrely a 50 yr old woman with lung cancer, and others such where the cause of death was identified and clearly unassociated with the MMR vaccine.
So Anne just where is Bigtree getting his facts from, or are they, to use a phrase, “alternative facts…..”?

angusfiles

Cathy Newman mocked Trump such as "A beautiful child went to have the vaccines and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick and now is autistic",

Now hopefully if they do a follow up program they will come and interview the sick children and the parents she slates - of course they never do silly me!
Pharma for Prison

MMR RIP

Hans Litten

http://www.healthnutnews.com/vaccines-vaccine-injury-perspective-doctor-mom/

An honest doctor ! Wow , we must be mistaken , cause does not equal causation , this doctor cannot be apologising for being wrong , can she ? This must be an urban myth , there are hundreds of studies out of Denmark that say a Doctor could never admit they were wrong .
The CDC has done countless scientific epidemiological studies that say 1 . Doctors could never be wrong and more importantly 2. doctors are never to admit they were wrong until their dying day.

Anyway , I joke , but seriously Dr. Rachael we are grateful , and thank you for your honesty .
However where are the rest of you scoundrels (doctors) - I understand that many of them are ducking vaccinations for their own children whilst maiming everyone else's children?

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That poor Cathy Newman is positively clueless. I guess that although she is a news reporter, who should be capable of actually investigating issues and topics, she has no clue about the Merck whistleblowers and their lawsuit against Merck regarding the alleged falsification of efficacy data for the mumps component of the MMR vaccine, either. She truly is a fine example of a simple-minded, Fake News journalist. Newman is completely unaware of the numerous replication studies confirming Dr. Wakefield's findings of a novel bowel disease in children with autism. Newman is pathetic, or ignorant, or perhaps something far worse.

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