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Wright Stuff BookBy Anne Dachel

I just finished looking at this Reuters piece on Bob Wright's book, and although I have my own Mt Vesuvius moment whenever I see autism described as a "mental disorder," I like that fact that Jennifer Saba said that Bob Wright's involvement with his grandson's autism would make a book all by itself. ABSOLUTELY.

Yes, Katie Wright makes no bones about it. Her son Christian was born healthy. He was meeting all his milestones. He got vaccinated. He had horrible reactions that the doctor said were "normal." He lost his milestones. He stopped progressing. He developed severe bowel disease.

Saba talks about the Wright family's fears about Christian ability to care for himself as he grows. Scroll down past the Reuters story to the 2007 interview by author David Kirby. Katie explained in detail what happened to her son and how she was left on her own to deal with a vaccine-injured child.

Sept. 2 2016, Reuters: BREAKING VIEWS-Review: NBC chief's deal-heavy memoir merits split

By Jennifer Saba 

Like a good TV series, Bob Wright's memoir leaves fans wanting more. In "The Wright Stuff," the former NBC boss engagingly takes readers behind the scenes of how he built the U.S. network from a struggling laggard to a profitable powerhouse over two decades at General Electric. Negotiations with Jack Welch, Bill Gates and Ted Turner enhance the drama. Wright's moving account of his grandchild's autism, however, would have better suited a second book….

In the same year, 2004, that Wright first secured Vivendi Universal in what may have been his professional triumph, his personal life took a dramatic turn. He found out his 2-year-old grandson Christian was autistic. The lack of answers and support prompted Wright and his wife Suzanne, who died last month from cancer, to launch Autism Speaks.

The mental disorder is a complicated subject. Wright's attempt to bookend the tale of his career at 30 Rockefeller with his philanthropic work is jarring. For instance, he devotes one chapter to the controversial matter of vaccines. It ripped apart Wright's own family. His daughter Katie, Christian's mother, told talk-show queen Oprah Winfrey about her belief that the preventative inoculations result in autism. That prompted Autism Speaks to distance itself from Katie's remarks, which led to Katie urging a boycott of her parents' organization.

For all the corporate power Wright may have wielded, he was left feeling helpless by this ordeal. He worries about Christian and the family's ability to care for a growing teenager who will be unable to live independently. Wright's plight is heartbreaking. Rather than merely shoehorning it into a business autobiography, it deserves its own book.

I have to agree with Jennifer Saba, the story of Bob Wright's grandson Christian and how he developed autism after being vaccinated deserves to be a book all on its own.

Watch Katie’s interview with David Kirby.

Christian started out as a “beautiful, healthy six and a half pound baby,” according to his mother. “He was just wonderful. He breastfed wonderfully, gained weight, he hit all his milestones… so affectionate, so loving, big smiles at six weeks. …”

Regarding vaccines, Katie had this to say:

“I had no idea. He was vaccinated without my knowledge of consent at the hospital. …”

His vaccines were continued, “right on schedule.”

“When he was two months old was the worst time. He got six vaccines in one visit….

“Of course I gave him a big dose of Tylenol. He was screaming. Screaming like somebody was killing him, for 12 hours, and he had a fever of 104.

“I called the pediatrician and I said, ‘I’m having some horrible reaction, and what do I do?’  She just said, ‘Keep giving him more Tylenol,…keep giving him more Tylenol.’ …

“He wouldn’t do anything for that entire time except scream. And he just passed out after twelve hours.

“I went back to my pediatrician after that and she assured me that was, you know, maybe more on the extreme, but a normal reaction, nothing to be concerned about. It’s amazing to me to this day that I believed that, and yet I did.

“We continued vaccinating him.” …

After that,“going to the doctor’s office was a nightmare—nightmare.”

Katie continued, “When he was two, he started losing language, and he would look at me with this blank look. …I noticed him looking off into space and not looking as much. Then the tantrums of course started, and they were frightening. …for not reason, hurling himself on the ground, screaming, screaming and screaming. …

“He had a thousand words, he was conversational, very loving. He would get on the telephone and pretend to call people…

“Then it disappeared so quickly, so quickly. And then that was gone and all his physical problems starting worsening dramatically.”

“His pretend play was gone completely.”

“Christian was diagnosed in February 2004. We pursued ABA therapy and speech therapy…but Christian continued a very swift decline because he was sick.”

Katie was told that autism was “happening more often, and nobody knows why. The word mystery was used a thousand times—and genetic. It was genetic and it was mysterious….”

When the link to vaccines became evident to Katie, she reacted. “It’s beyond painful to think that I, as his mother, took him to the pediatrician, I held him down—screaming—and allowed this to happen to him. …”

David Kirby’s book, Evidence of Harm, was what educated Katie about the dangers of mercury in vaccines. Meanwhile she was told that Christian didn’t have bowel disease, despite his rectal bleeding, and she was told not to try and “crazy diets,” etc.

Katie and her husband took Christian to Dr. Krigsman in January 2006, who said, ‘This child is probably in horrible pain.’

Krigsman scoped Christian, and “the picture were horrible….”

“He was no longer toilet trained. He basically spent all day long just lying on the floor, lying across tables and chairs….He’d wake up screaming all night.”

After Krigsman started treating him, Christian stopped screaming, “and for the first time in two years, sleeping.”

Katie also began chelating Christian. His speech was returning and his was becoming more affectionate.

Katie talked about a congressional hearing where Dr. Thomas Insel and Dr. Julie Gerberding testified. She talked about the extreme vaccination schedule we have in the U.S.

David Kirby asked Katie about the “bias” of Autism Speaks toward genetic research. Katie responded by saying that both of her parents believe there are environmental factors. She said that when NAAR joined with AS, they focused on NAAR’s genetic studies.

Katie made it clear that certain “researchers and parents are so resistant, so resistant to change. I think they’re frightened after going down this path for twenty years... They were afraid to offend government officials. …”

Katie said her dad was “flabbergasted at the lack of accountability” by people like Julie Gerberding, then the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

According to Katie, back in 2007, Autism Speaks was going to fund more environmental research, something that, as it turns out, never included vaccines. Nice years ago, as Katie says on the video, she was hopeful that AS would fund something like a chelation study or a vaxxed vs unvaxxed study.

Finally Katie was very critical of the media’s coverage of this controversy. “…Grossly inadequate coverage. …I think that the coverage of autism, unfortunately, has shown many journalists just to be lazy and doing what’s easy—just picking from a headline, …going to the CDC for the same quote from the same person, getting the same answer. …”

David asked her about censorship.

“Oh I can imagine. There must be, yeah. Absolutely.”

Katie told parents to seek the answer and the treatments that would benefit their children.

Anne Dachel is Media Editor for Age of Autism.

Comments

Jeannette Bishop

@Pandas Mom,

In case you're interested, I noticed David Kirby is scheduled here on Sept. 15th 4:00pm, & 16th panel:

http://www.therealtruthabouthealthconference.com/schedule/

david m burd

Jonathan Rose, and Dan Olmsted, et al.

I actually was being serious 3-4 months back when I cajoled here on AoA Dan (and Mark Blaxill) to get a serious audience with Donald Trump, to inform him (and his aides) of their book and all its seriously credentialed allies such as Boyd Haley, Barbara Loe Fisher, and countless others.

I bring this up because as Jonathan and others here have conjectured, there may indeed be a unforeseen event that brings a Seismic-9 overturning of our present vaccine-carnage. This seismic event has a chance with Donald Trump.

So, it's such as Dan and Mark, and other accomplished professionals making an heroic effort to inform our 2016 Candidates of this iatrogenic carnage. Need a lift? - I'll supply the car, be your driver, no mileage charge.

Cait from Canada

Ronald, I don't think you are on the wrong website. Even though much of the discussion here pertains to vaccination, there are other factors potentially contributing to autism and other neurological disorders, and I appreciate the fact that you bring a broader perspective to the conversation. I also think you are probably right that we need to explore different strategies.

On the other hand, your tone is often very dismissive, and that tends to alienate people — for example, I'm not surprised that Bob Moffit took you initial comment personally. You went on to clarify that you feel the same way about your own efforts, but by that time people's backs were already up.

You say that you "view 'positive' as something that will place us on the path to victory. 'Positive' may mean the first step of pointing out that the present approach is not that path." If this is indeed your strategy, a change of tone to one of encouragement would surely be helpful.

Jonathan Rose

But Ronald, what you forget is that in history the unexpected often happens and changes the game, and the other side commits blunder that we can take advantage of. Yes, now we have to play defense, as the Allies did in the first half of the Second World War: then Hitler made the mistake of attacking both the USSR and the US, a war he could not win. If the Dark Side plays its cards right and everything goes according to plan, they will eventually wear us down and win -- but things usually don't go according to plan.

To take obvious example, if the Dark Side had simply ignored Vaxxed, the film probably would have had one screening at the Tribeca Film Festival and then disappeared without a trace. Instead, they mobilized every major media outlet in the Western world to attack it, giving us a huge "Banned in Boston" publicity bonanza, and now the film is showing everywhere. Thank God we are fighting such stupid enemies! The Dark Side also thought they had bought up every plausible presidential candidate, and never anticipated the rise of Donald Trump. So at this point anything could happen.

Jeannette Bishop

@Pandas Mom,

http://www.takepart.com/author/david-kirby

John Stone

Pandas Mom

I think David just moved onto other things - a book about Sea World for example. It would certainly be nice to have his contribution back.

John Stone

Ronald

No you are the person with a pathetic cop out. You haven't got any ideas and you are not going to tell us what they are. You don't intend to help.

I don't as it happens think there is some single strategy which we are pursuing, there is obviously a multiplicity and we have to keep on doing everything, and better, and thinking of other things we might do. What you are doing is trying to systematically trash everybody's efforts either out of some weird pathology about being right, or because you have some other nastier agenda.

I am truly fed up with listening to it all.

Ronald Kostoff

Susan,

"Ronald. I think you are on the wrong website. Why not set one up about the dangers of wireless radiation? Do something positive."

I may very well be on the wrong Website. Concerning your suggestion, there is no lack of Websites addressing the dangers of wireless radiation. We don't need yet another one. Additionally, they tend to emphasize petitions, rallies, speeches, and other 'actions' that have gotten us to where we are today. Nowhere! In my view, the wireless radiation problem is even a tougher one than the vaccine problem, in that the wireless user community gets pleasure from the wireless devices. I don't think that's true of the vaccine consumer community.

Finally, it appears that your definition of 'positive', along with John Stone, is cheerleading for the present ineffective approach. That's not my definition. I view 'positive' as something that will place us on the path to victory. 'Positive' may mean the first step of pointing out that the present approach is not that path.

Ronald Kostoff

John Stone,

"And there you go:
"However, I recognize full well where such an effort is positioned on the grand scheme of things. Even if we had won last year, and the cell tower was rejected, so what? Another hundred cell towers would have been proposed, and gone through without much problem. Such a minor victory is not the way to win a war!"
So, there is no practical advice except possibly "Give up!"."

That's the interpretation of a True Believer. Either we keep doing what we're doing, which by our own definition (not by any objective assessment) is the correct path, or we 'give up'. No other options are possible!

If you are sitting in a boat, springing ten new leaks a day, and you plug eight, there's two ways of interpreting this. You're making progress by plugging the eight leaks (which wouldn't have happened had you done nothing), or you're losing ground with two net new leaks per day. Actually, your 'progress' is nothing more than delaying the inevitable! In that situation, wouldn't you want to re-think your approach?

That was the purpose of my cell tower example above. We put a lot of effort into the cell tower opposition, and went to sleep believing we had actually accomplished something. Whether or not we had won, every day we collectively would still be doing the boat equivalent of accumulating two net new leaks.

I realize you want me to lay out a plan of the required sacrifices. For myriad reasons, including that I personally don't see a self-consistent path to 'victory', I'm not going to do that. But, the fact that I'm not going to do it shouldn't preclude anyone else from doing it, if they see light at the end of the tunnel. I have yet to hear a convincing argument that the present path will eventually lead to 'victory'.

PANDAS Mom

I tried to post this comment yesterday, but it never appeared - not sure what happened:

Whatever happened to David Kirby anyway? He seemed devoted to the topic of vaccines and autism, wrote an excellent book, and then some articles, and then...nothing. Anyone know what happened to him?

susan

Ronald. I think you are on the wrong website. Why not set one up about the dangers of wireless radiation? Do something positive.

In the meantime, let us get on with getting our message out by demonstrations, Facebook, Twitter, emails, word of mouth and, even, letters. This is what so many of us are doing for many, many hours and the message is getting out there. Until the general public become aware of the dangers of multiple vaccines/increased schedules nothing will happen. People are becoming more aware and the Pharmaceutical companies, Governments and media are getting worried. Hence their backlash.

However, I do believe we are slowly winning this fight.

Linda1

I woke up this morning wondering how we fight this, knowing that what we're presently doing is obviously not enough. We now live under tyranny. There is no doubt. Petitions, demonstrations, will be allowed (for now) but will be overrun. Our efforts will be met with more oppression, because our government consists of oppressors, not representatives. And they're murderers, just like all the other tyrannical governments that have killed their citizens throughout history.

So now what do we do?

Dr. Rose, I loved your analysis and insight. Dr. Simon importantly told how The Department of Homeland Security was present for her peaceful demonstration in 2012. Dr. Rose, are we at a disadvantage because of the heavy artillery and surveillance tools our oppressors have and are willing to use? Is that the difference comparing this to prior struggles? Officers wearing a belt full of weapons. Planes carpet bombing whole populations with pesticide, while government officials call for more and more while the public screams in protest. The SC cop who slammed a student on the floor and dragged her across the schoolroom, breaking her wrist, was found not guilty of wrongdoing. We are clearly the enemy. They are waging war on us.

I know, Dr. Kostoff, just another ineffectual fiery comment. Please tell me, what would you have me do? Tell me what you want me to sacrifice. Give me a list as long as you like and I'll make those changes immediately.

JPL

@Bob Moffitt wrote, "To this day, the neuro-diverse movement community remains adamant in their position that autism is a GIFT and parents should accept their autistic child as such."

Bob, thank you so much for continuing to highlight this BS that the neuro-diverse spread daily. They make it so much more difficult for parents by brainwashing unsuspecting doctors, parents, etc. into believing autism is a wonderful gift for the child and their parents. Of course we all know that so many of the kids live VERY difficult lives and their parents worry endlessly about their completely uncertain future, lacking of funding for everything, lack of appropriate education and their medical well being. With that said the battle we face is from parents with a large platform who write things like this:

"First of all, it usually takes me about a minute just to say, “Hi, I’m Jess.” Secondly, I’m pretty sure I could talk about the benefits of honoring neurodiversity for days on end, so the only tough part of this was going to be the search for brevity. But no matter, I was in."

Stomach churning isn't it? This is from Diary of a Mom's post today which is entitled..."Why i'd follow neurodiversity on tour, if that were a thing." Just the title makes me want to literally vomit.

I guess if your kid is barely on the spectrum and you have a full time spouse caregiver and no education worries then maybe autism isn't so bad but what about the thousands of other kids and families that don't have endless money, live in big money towns and have access to anything they need? We need more parents to speak up on why neurodiversity is a movement that does NOT speak for the majority.

Ronald Kostoff

ATSC,

"There are far more dissenting voices now because of the prospect of forced vaccinations. Twenty-odd years ago few non-vaccinating and selectively-vaccinating individuals and families supported pro-choice groups or showed concern for the vaccine-injured, they generally kept themselves to themselves. It's only now with the threat of forced vaccination for everyone, not just for children, and the realisation that needles are heading their way that they have the motivation to get involved."

Parallels the concern about re-implementing the Draft, and how that would re-focus attention on many of our foreign military involvements.

But, yes, there is more awareness that vaccines, perhaps in concert with other potentially toxic stimuli, could result in substantial adverse health effects. Unfortunately, we are starting to run out of time to effectively counter these problems. If Stephanie Seneff's estimate that one-in-two children will have autism by 2025 is anywhere near credible, we have substantially less than a decade to radically reduce the use of glyphosate (which she believes is the major culprit), as well as potentially synergetic vaccines. Also, by that time, there will have been decades of substantial use of wireless radiation (ever increasing), and substantial latency effects will begin to emerge (as well as effects synergistic with vaccines). I don't believe we have that many decades remaining to create a critical mass of awareness for reversing these trends.

Lest we forget. We have no idea of the adverse health impacts of vaccines, glyphosate, wireless radiation, et al, on the diseases that tend to occur in older age. We have not tested for them in humans, and have really not seen the passage of time that would allow these adverse effects to emerge. These adverse effects could be far more extensive and numerous than those of the more readily observable childhood diseases. Who knows; we may have already condemned generations of adults to eventually experiencing these diseases by what we have exposed them to already. That's the real danger of introducing technologies to the marketplace that have not undergone adequate safety testing.

John Stone

Ronald

But now you are ducking the point and there isn't any collective view at AOA anyway. The point is that you just dismiss what people do and that is unconstructive to say the least. Whatever we might do is based on whatever we have achieved, our organisation, its people, our principles, whatever...So, OK we haven't won, we haven't overwhelmed the industrial govenment complex but people work hard to achieve (they very likely won't be discussing initiatives in public) and they will even likely welcome constructive advice. But actually you don't offer any constructive advice.

And there you go:

"However, I recognize full well where such an effort is positioned on the grand scheme of things. Even if we had won last year, and the cell tower was rejected, so what? Another hundred cell towers would have been proposed, and gone through without much problem. Such a minor victory is not the way to win a war!"

So, there is no practical advice except possibly "Give up!".

Hans Litten

sb277 in action - a very sad article indeed :

http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/Thousands-start-school-without-vaccinations-as-9178322.php

“You can’t let families slide,” said Sherri Willis, spokeswoman for the Alameda County Public Health Department. She said that in the past, some families who had no problem with vaccines simply failed to get them by the first day of school.

The law is still subject to a court battle, and a federal judge in San Diego is expected to rule this week on whether to delay it while a legal challenge proceeds. A lawsuit filed by an antivaccination group, Education 4 All, charges that the law violates the right to an education under California’s constitution.

Dan Olmsted

Jonathan thank you for this dose of reasoned optimism

Dan Olmsted

I don't think we have much of an agenda beyond trying to end the age of autism...

Ronald Kostoff

Bob Moffit,

"Would I be correct in assuming this answer means YOU have "no plans to make necessary sacrifices""

My plans are not relevant to the larger issue. However, if the opportunity arises for me to oppose implementation of a wireless radiation system whose potential adverse health effects have not been fully identified/demonstrated, as was the case last year when I participated in opposing a cell tower construction, then I would take advantage of the opportunity. However, I recognize full well where such an effort is positioned on the grand scheme of things. Even if we had won last year, and the cell tower was rejected, so what? Another hundred cell towers would have been proposed, and gone through without much problem. Such a minor victory is not the way to win a war!

Hans Litten

Jonathan Rose | September 08, 2016 at 09:25 AM

I do admire your optimism , I really do .
And I love to have a "pop" at Ronald , I really do at every opportunity. The jury is out on Ronald .

But I have to reluctantly admit , that our efforts are nowhere near enough .
There isn't enough intensity for me at all .All the science & righteousness is with us .
So many great scientists have put their necks on the line for us - some have suffered for it .
This holocaust has been running for 25+ years already & I fear we face many more years also.
Many of the parents of the vaccine damaged don't get it , they don't put the effort in to find out what happened . They maintain the existing trust they had in the Govt & the lamestream media .
They still bang the nationalist drum and wave their countries flag .
Your own country just poisoned your own children - deliberately - can you believe it ?

sb277 passed - it was a massive defeat even despite all the other victories .
It passed because we were infiltrated by Pharma Harma agents pretending to represent us .
The Gardasil carnage continues unabated and unashamedly .
If we cannot dispatch Gardasil (like Japan has done) we have nothing .
Ireland for instance is getting battered by Gardasil (amongst many other chemical assaults)
And here is a typical article that allows the murdering & sterilising to continue :

http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/analysis/prescribing-the-facts-on-the-hpv-vaccine-is-necessary-419678.html

I'm not advocating violence , I never would , but you would assume that the industrialised and systemic poisoning of peoples babies and children would lead to riots in the streets .
No-one could say it wasn't justified . Leicester did it once upon a time 1850's

Ronald Kostoff

John Stone,

"Whether here or not that has often been the tone of your comments, so perhaps you ought to think about it."

I read a few blogs every day, on diverse topics. EVERY blog has a Mission, or more bluntly, an Agenda. I understand the agenda of each of the blogs. When commenters make statements aligned with the blog's agenda, they are responded to favorably. When they dare to oppose the agenda, that brings down the wrath of the faithful.

So, if AoA commenters/moderators choose to mis-interpret my remarks to advance their agenda, I understand that and, frankly, expect that. But, as I've stated before, I don't post for the purpose of receiving favorable comments. If I do receive such comments, fine, but if I don't, fine also.

On the specific issue that started this exchange, I see almost the identical pattern related to wireless radiation health issues. For 25 years (at least), there has been a steady advance in the implementation of wireless systems without full understanding of the adverse health effects, and there are far more of these systems in the pipeline. Those who believe the demonstrations and rallies are effective will point to an isolated example of e.g. a school banning WiFi, and try to convince the reader that the corner has been turned. So, we get 100 schools installing WiFi, and one banning or removing it, and somehow that's a victory? Yes, that one school banning WiFi would not have occurred without substantial effort on the part of many dedicated people, but in the larger scheme of things, minimal progress was made.

Same as with vaccines. Sure, as Jonathan Rose points out with his post on this thread, there have been some advances. As I read his comments, they have been in the form of 'stemming the tide' rather than 'rolling back'/reversing existing law and regulations. But, when we see Uganda passing laws where parents will face jail time when not vaccinating their children (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35898715), when we see the CDC proposing (according to Jon Rapoport) "any person in the US suspected of carrying a serious communicable disease, even if his disease is in an “invisible” stage, can be detained, isolated, quarantined, and medically treated (e.g., forcibly vaccinated)", when we see the advances in the sheer numbers of vaccinations, imposition of some mandates, and removal of some exemptions over the past thirty years, the conclusion is inescapable. The battle is being lost, following the present rules of engagement.

ATSC

Ronald,

"Yes, there have been numerous rallies and marches for decades, as well as numerous speeches and op-eds and posts, and I certainly admire the participants for the effort they expended. But, what has been the end result; what has been the impact? More vaccines, more mandates, with the prospect of potential regulations that could result in forced vaccinations."

A push-back should have been expected. There are far more dissenting voices now because of the prospect of forced vaccinations. Twenty-odd years ago few non-vaccinating and selectively-vaccinating individuals and families supported pro-choice groups or showed concern for the vaccine-injured, they generally kept themselves to themselves. It's only now with the threat of forced vaccination for everyone, not just for children, and the realisation that needles are heading their way that they have the motivation to get involved.

I expect we'll be seeing a lot more "I won't vaccinate" videos like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGzWcFnbi0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZlTfzAw6Ak

 Hera

Roanld, are you familiar with the story of the 100th monkey? it may be an urban legend; but the idea is that eventually enough people working together will create change.
Change has never been instant; I am sure there were times with every now heralded change when people fighting for a cause said "but we can't do this" But you don't win by stopping, you win by keeping going.

And another quote;

“I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do.”
― Edward Everett Hale

Every single positive action we take chips away at t he huge wall of denial. And we are all fighting for our children, for our country, and even for our economy. Adding more and more vaccines to a schedule, harming a higher and higher percentage of children; do you truely think that is a sustainable economic plan?

I agree with John Stone, criticism without an alternative plan is, unfortunately both unhelpful and pointless.

We would all like to achieve things quicker, but sometimes the only thing to do is keep taking step after step in the right direction.

And I have a lot of respect for the many caring people here on A of A who are doing what they can.

Jonathan Rose

Ronald: To say that "The rallies, marches, speeches, blogs, and posts are action with little/no impact" is simply untrue, or at least far, far too simple. In fact we have won some very significant victories in the face of overwhelming opposition. Attempts to mandate the HPV vaccine have been stopped dead in their tracks almost everywhere. In the wake of the Disneyland measles "epidemic" politicians fell all over themselves proposing bills to enforce compulsory vaccination, but except in California (a serious defeat, no doubt) we beat back such legislation almost everywhere. If we hadn't done that, all vaccination exemptions would be gone today.

As for those "ineffectual" blog posts, they're persuading more and more young parents to spread out or omit shots. That's exactly why the Dark Side is now openly calling for coercive measures: because (as they ruefully admit) they're losing the propaganda war.

You say we should do what the labor, civil rights, and anticolonial movements did, but in fact we're doing exactly that. Didn't they also publish books and journals, stage demonstrations, and engage in passive resistance? (I assume you're not suggesting we should pick up the gun, which would be absolutely lunatic.)

Given that we have very limited resources, and are fighting people with limitless power and wealth, I'd say we're doing better than anyone could have expected. Of course, we have a very long way to go, but you forget how long it took for these other protest movements to achieve victory. After the abolition of slavery, it took a full century for African-Americans to fully secure their voting rights. I hope we can win more quickly, but we have to be prepared for a long struggle.

Patience (Eileen Nicole) Simon

What am I reading here? Does anyone remember the IACC meeting held in July 2012?
Rumors were circulating about a demonstration. Sure enough, when I arrived at the meeting room at the L'Enfant Plaza hotel, the room (2 rooms actually) were surrounded by Homeland Security police.

And, yellow T-shirts were being passed out. On the back they all read "Sebelius turned her back on the autism epidemic again." A choice of messages was available for the front. I chose "$1 billion wasted researching what doesn’t cause autism." Sebelius was the guest speaker.

Sebelius' speech can be found and read in the transcript of the IACC meeting held on July 10, 2012. As she drawled on about an insignificant list of priorities, was when we all got up and turned our backs on her. She could only barely see us, because she was shielded on the other side of the wall dividing the double conference room.

I am about to submit comments on the IACC phone conference held yesterday. There was discussion of scientific advances made since 2008. What??? I made a presentation at the meeting held November 21, 2008. I am glad to see it is in the archives of past meetings: https://iacc.hhs.gov/meetings/iacc-meetings/2008/full-committee-meeting/november21/slides_eileen_simon_112108.pdf

It can be discouraging, but I will continue to submit comments on language circuits in the brain, and brain impairments that underly repetitive movements and diminished level of consciousness, and medical errors that are adding to the increased prevalence of autism in the last 30 years.

John Stone

Ronald

I don't have much time but:

"John Stone, "and belittling other people who may have given a lot more than you have" Sorry, John, stating that a series of actions is ineffective is not belittling.""

Whether here or not that has often been the tone of your comments, so perhaps you ought to think about it.

"I realize that's an Inconvenient Truth, but I don't see how progress can be made unless one takes a hard look at the effectiveness of what is being done. "

I expect people involved in campaigning look at this all the time. They don't necessarily put it up on AoA.

"The present approach has gone, is going, and will go nowhere! And, that goes well beyond vaccines. "

But you are still not saying what the new approach is.

Bob Moffit

@ Ronald

"Whether I have made, am making, or plan to make necessary sacrifices is not relevant to what is required to reverse the tide. The present approach is not cutting the mustard!"

Would I be correct in assuming this answer means YOU have "no plans to make necessary sacrifices" ... other than belittling the efforts of all who have led and attended "rallies, marches, speeches, blogs, and posts .. because .. they have proven ineffective .. offering only the appearance of progress without the substance."

Speaking for myself only ... thanks for your advice and opinion .. which appears to be the "appearance of constructive criticism .. without any substantive answers" .. but .. my family will continue attending and marching in any future rallies we can make it to .. and .. those rallies we cannot attend in person ... we will be wishing like hell we were there.

AutismGoAway

I agree with everyone who says we need a cure: for children, adolescents and adults. It can be done. It is not so difficult. If there was a will ...

Ronald Kostoff

John Stone,

"and belittling other people who may have given a lot more than you have"

Sorry, John, stating that a series of actions is ineffective is not belittling. I realize that's an Inconvenient Truth, but I don't see how progress can be made unless one takes a hard look at the effectiveness of what is being done. The present approach has gone, is going, and will go nowhere! And, that goes well beyond vaccines.

John Stone

Ronald

Instead of talking big - and belittling other people who may have given a lot more than you have - why don't you come out with some practical proposals?

Ronald Kostoff

Bob Moffit,

"have proudly attended and marched in .....who has led .. and .. continues to lead .. numerous rallies in NY State .....who have led rallies in Washington, D.C.....who led the demonstration in Trenton, N.J.....who led "Remember Simpsonwood" rallies in front of the CDC complex in Atlanta, Georgia.....attended the rallies THEY led."

Your response proves my point! Yes, there have been numerous rallies and marches for decades, as well as numerous speeches and op-eds and posts, and I certainly admire the participants for the effort they expended. But, what has been the end result; what has been the impact? More vaccines, more mandates, with the prospect of potential regulations that could result in forced vaccinations.

And, this is not limited to vaccines. There have been similar efforts to oppose cell towers, Smart Meters, and other wireless radiation devices that expose people to potential harm. I worked on one cell tower opposition effort a year ago for many months. And, what has been the end result, the impact? Same as vaccines! With 5G and the Internet of Things on the horizon, we will drown in a sea of EMF.

I could go down the list for other potentially harmful substances. For the most part, the results and impact are quite similar. The rallies, marches, speeches, blogs, and posts are action with little/no impact. They offer the appearance of progress without the substance. Whether I have made, am making, or plan to make necessary sacrifices is not relevant to what is required to reverse the tide. The present approach is not cutting the mustard!

Bob Moffit

@ Ronald

"..... Consider what sacrifices were necessary in the past for labor victories, civil rights victories, overthrowing of colonial rule, etc. That's what's needed to end these man-made tragedies once and for all. Fiery blog posts won't cut the mustard!"

I am truly sorry I disappoint you with my "DON'T CUT THE MUSTARD FIERY BLOG POSTS".

However .. and .. I am sure its my fault ... over the last 14 years .. I don't recall seeing YOU at any of the numerous "rallies and demonstrations" ... that I .. my wife .. (now in our late 70's) ... my two older brothers .. (now in their 80's) .. in support of our beloved 16 year old grandson and great nephew .. have proudly attended and marched in .. all over NY State .. one in Trenton, N.J. .. two in Atlanta Georgia .. three in Washington, DC.? Did I miss you? If so .. I apologize.

In any event .. I KNOW John Gilmore of the Autism Action Network" .. who has led .. and .. continues to lead .. numerous rallies in NY State .. fighting tirelessly for my family in NYS. I KNOW Jenny McCarthy and Robert Kennedy .. who have led rallies in Washington, D.C .. and .. have paid a huge personal price for doing so. I KNOW Louise Habakis .. who led the demonstration in Trenton, N.J. .. and .. continues to be a leading voice in NJ for my family .. I KNOW Amy Carson .. President of Moms Against Mercury ... who led "Remember Simpsonwood" rallies in front of the CDC complex in Atlanta, Georgia.

Why do I claim to KNOW these heroes? Because I and my family attended the rallies THEY led. God Bless them all for having the courage and perseverance to so.

In any event .. and .. trust me .. I truly mean no disrespect .. but .. please tell me ... what "sacrifices that were necessary for labor, civil rights or overthrowing colonial rule to succeed" .. that YOU have initiated or participated in .. that I should KNOW about?

My friend .. I respectfully disagree that Thomas Paine's "fiery" pamphlet "Common Sense" .. should be dismissed as inconsequential .. when compared to the brave men who actually LED their fellow compatriots to pick up their pitchforks and muskets eventually "overthrowing Colonial rule".

After all .. Paine's pamphlet "defined for the people the righteousness of their cause" .. in the "court of public opinion" ... which is exactly what my inadequate "fiery posts on AoA" are intended to do.

Gayle

Aimee-thanks for the support! Your son sounds exactly like my son and everything you described fits our son's situation as well. We need research into how to reverse the damage done to our children NOW!
Rebecca-could you give a website for Andy Cutler for us to find out more about him? Have you used him and seen any progress with your child? Thanks.

Ronald Kostoff

Bob Moffit,

"OUR HOLOCAUST COULDN'T HAPPEN TODAY ... WITHOUT THOSE WHO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY TO STOP IT ... REMAIN SILENT INSTEAD"

Assigning responsibility to someone else for your protection is a dead-end. We have been raised to believe there are people in this society looking out for our benefit. The schools re-enforce this fantasy. In reality, neither the politicians, bureaucrats, regulators, industry, media, researchers, developers, etc, give a sh** about your or my welfare. They are focused on their own welfare, and their own careers and aspirations. They will throw us under the bus in a microsecond if it means enhancing their own careers one iota.

There are a number of severe health effects happening today caused mainly by the consequences of modern technology. Adverse effects of EMF, fossil fuels, glyphosate, drugs (including vaccines), etc. NONE of them are being reversed, halted, or appreciably slowed down. The reason is that 'we the people' are not willing to do what it takes to stop these man-made tragedies. Consider what sacrifices were necessary in the past for labor victories, civil rights victories, overthrowing of colonial rule, etc. That's what's needed to end these man-made tragedies once and for all. Fiery blog posts won't cut the mustard!

Rebecca Lee

"We need research..." If the damage has been done by mercury or some other metal, and most of the time it has, then what you want is the Andy Cutler protocol.

John Stone

Sally

I think maybe mercury in lightbulbs etc with General Electric but probably not thimerosal.

Sally Rubin

Wasn't GE or isn't GE the larger distributor of Thimerosal on the planet? If I'm wrong about this, please correct me If so, forming a one-stop-shop for everything autism that diverts attention from *that* (environmental) poison would be a clever thing to do. Many of us have been watching this ass-backwards drama unfold and rooting for Katie for years. It must have been so painful to watch her parents exercise their wealth and power in a futile pursuit to avoid what was obvious to her. Being an autism parent can be isolating, especially when family members insist on hiding their heads in the sand.

John Stone

Bob

'Hear the Silence' can be viewed on youtube with Hebrew subtitles, as featured in AoA in 2013

http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/02/banned-wakefield-films-from-british-tv-emerge-on-youtube-after-nearly-a-decade.html

John

Aimee Doyle

@Gayle
"We need research on how to reverse vaccine damage and we do not want to hear that it can't be done!"

I couldn't agree more...and I want research to find effective treatment/therapy/cure for adolescents and adults on the spectrum. All the research I've seen is drug related.

My son Rory is 26 years old - since we got the diagnosis at age 4, we have tried absolutely every treatment and therapy for autism out there (from the conventional to the alternative to the downright fringe) - we've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. He has made progress, but he is still significantly impaired and cannot live independently. He can't even be left alone unsupervised.

I would like to see some research that would benefit adults (dare I say it - CURE?) - whether biomedical or educational or therapeutic. If there are more effective treatments and therapies, it stands to reason that there would be reduced need for supports and services.

Bob Moffit

@ John .. don't recall "Hear the Silence" ... however I do remember well the first time I viewed "Autism Every Day" .. I believe the very first film produced as a fund-raiser for Autism Speaks .. it was a powerful film .. the longer version of which was accepted by the prestigious Sundance Film Festival. I remember how encouraged I was to see this film and thinking .. FINALLY .. SOMEONE .. (BOB AND SUZANNE WRIGHT) .. HAS THE COURAGE AND INFLUENCE TO SPEAK UP FOR OUR KIDS AND FAMILIES.

Unfortunately .. I suspect the film ushered in the "neuro-diverse" movement .. who were extremely LOUD in their criticism of portraying the lives of autistics in such a "negative way" .. their point being as autistics themselves .. they consider autism a GIFT that has greatly enhanced their lives.

To this day .. the neuro-diverse community remains adamant in their position that autism is a GIFT and parents should accept their autistic child as such.

In any event .. here is the shortened version .. I think it's 13 minutes in length .. and .. I believe I first and last time I saw it play was on the Don Imus Show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0vCz2KWMM0

John Stone

People are just picked off individually all the time. I recall that both Bob and Suzanne Wright expressed their concern to the British media on a visit to the UK c.2008: the reports were there in Telegraph and the Guardian when mostly everyone who had tried to do anything had been silenced here as well as in the US. There is also an interesting interview with actress Juliet Stevenson about that time, who had played the part of the mother in the TV drama "Hear the Silence" a few years before:

"All that was blown apart when the critics accused the filmmakers - and by inference her - of trying to influence parents against MMR and dressing up science as entertainment.

""Perhaps it was naive of me to think you could put out a film like that," she says. "I thought it was generating an interesting debate and that it gave a voice to those who needed a voice - parents who were told they didn't know anything.

""It was devastating to find we live in a country where you can't ask questions, particularly in the crucial area of the wellbeing of tiny children. I was in bad shape for a while after that. I just wanted to hide away...""

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3635674/Juliet-Stevenson-I-would-love-a-completely-different-life.html

A senior journalist told me in 2004 that he have received menacing messages because he had dared to pose questions. To some degree he continued - he posed them ever more lightly and asked no questions about the Wakefield lynch-mob. The mob can wreck you but it is a mob - it has nothing to do with science and everything to do with social repression. I think what Bob and Suzanne Wright might have said, is that shutting down scientific debate by force is no way to proceed. The Juliet Stevenson question is interesting too. What is the postion of parents of children who have been injured by public health programs. Everybody is told that such people are public enemies. But what is the evidence base of the program if you treat people like that?

Gayle

My son had the same downward spiral that Katie describes regarding her son Christian. He was meeting all his milestones-walking, singing, talking, smiling-and then gradually lost all his communication skills and contact with us as he drifted into his own world. He had all his vaccinations on schedule and when he started to show signs of autism our pediatrician assured us that he was fine. We were, of course, devastated when we received his official autism diagnosis and now we are dealing with an adult son who has an uncertain future. We need research on how to reverse vaccine damage and we do not want to hear that it can't be done!

Bob Moffit

"Finally Katie was very critical of the media’s coverage of this controversy. “…Grossly inadequate coverage. …I think that the coverage of autism, unfortunately, has shown many journalists just to be lazy and doing what’s easy—just picking from a headline, …going to the CDC for the same quote from the same person, getting the same answer. …”

The exact same "grossly inadequate coverage of autism" could be made against the AMA, AAP, FDA, IOM, Congress, Senate, on and on. .. all guilty of "going to the CDC for the same quote from the same person, getting the same answers ......

Unfortunately ... the media has had a free hand in denying any "link between vaccines and the virtual explosion of autism in our country" ... because ... all those OTHER organizations, agencies, bureaucracies, regulators ... ARE WILLING ACCOMPLICES .. NO DIFFERENT THAN GERMANY'S MORALLY BANKRUPT BUREAUCRACIES .. THAT REFUSED TO SEE THEIR FORMER JEWISH NEIGHBORS BEING HERDED LIKE CATTLE ONTO THE TRAINS TRANSPORTING THEM TO THEIR DEATH CAMPS.

THE HOLOCAUST COULDN'T HAVE OCCURRED IN GERMANY .. AND ... OUR HOLOCAUST COULDN'T HAPPEN TODAY ... WITHOUT THOSE WHO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY TO STOP IT ... REMAIN SILENT INSTEAD.

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