in response to Ronald Kostoff | August 10, 2016 at 01:45 PM

Our opposition is growing in size . They are putting more and more fake opposition on our side (sb277 , mention no names on here but people can easily see the accusations out there . )
They just killed 50-60 doctors to quell the unrest (this is democratic America\UK doing this now not Stalins Russia) . They said Apartheid would never end . Until it did .
They are having to take bigger and wilder gambles all the time to keep a lid on this .
They are having to lock down the internet (gooles Ldn based knowledge base) .

They censor the press globally . They are hanging on Ronald .Trust me on this .
When the flood gates breach , then its all over .
You can talk us down all you want . You are wasting your time if that is your game .
You are Atlanta Georgia based , if I am not mistaken , who else is based there ?

Hans Litten,

"I agree with Linda .They will never get away with this (poisoning our babies).
"We're going to win."

You can do all the cheerleading you want. That is no substitute for a credible strategic plan to 'victory', or a credible list of accomplishments. You have provided no evidence of either. In terms of 'poisoning', if you choose the starting point when MMR was rolled out in 1971, 'they' have been doing the 'poisoning' for at least 45 years. If that isn't 'getting away' with it, I don't know what is. And, there are no signs on the horizon this will get better; the signs point in the opposite direction.

"Ronald , we have damaged them , we have holed them , they are reeling already .
I don't hear "safe and effective" anymore anywhere ."

Damaged Big Pharma; give me a break! Have you reduced their vaccine sales/revenues? Are there less people being vaccinated globally? Have you reversed any vaccine laws, mandates, schedules? Forget about what people say, look at what they do; what are the objective tangible changes?

"Senior people aren't nearly so confident of their former positions .
Don't you see that ?"

I don't see any real reversals having taken place, and I don't see any on the horizon. All I hear about are ways to vaccinate the unvaccinated globally. Until I see the vaccine equivalent of the Montreal Protocol banning Chlorofluorocarbons to protect the Ozone Layer, I don't accept that any meaningful progress has occurred, is occurring, or will occur!!!

I agree with Linda .They will never get away with this (poisoning our babies).
"We're going to win."

Ronald , we have damaged them , we have holed them , they are reeling already .
I don't hear "safe and effective" anymore anywhere .

Senior people aren't nearly so confident of their former positions .
Don't you see that ?
The JVIC didn't roll out the mass immunisation program of bexsero in the UK (we did that) .

sb277 & Gardasil could be their undoing . The protests are there right now .
They are walking a tightrope & they know it .

So it seems that Jill Stein may have personal questions about the safety of vaccines, but quickly changed to "vaccines don't cause autism" as soon as the heat was on.

That doesn't bode well for her ability to lead or affect change in the face of the incredible opposition she would face re: ending corruption in the FDA or CDC either.

Sigh... there doesn't seem to be anyone to vote for.

No one person or party who will simultaneously:

RID government agencies of corrupting ties to private industry, while...

STRENGTHENING and ENFORCING regulation to protect us from toxins and pollution that are making us all sick.

PROSECUTING CRIMINALS AT THE CDC, while...
RECOGNIZING the need for a PUBLIC entity - free of industry ties - to research disease prevention and treatment

PROTECT OUR RIGHT TO MAKE CHOICES FOR OUR OWN BODIES, AND TO MAKE CHOICES FOR OUR CHILDREN, while still...

RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR COLLECTIVE OBLIGATIONS TO EACH OTHER, BY ENSURING FUNDING OF SOCIAL SERVICES (early intervention, medicaid waiver, vocational rehab, independent living support, etc. etc.) that millions of families of disabled children and adults depend on.

Of course, there are many more issues so important to the people of this country and the world, but in the context of vaccines, mandates, injuries and support services, these are the issues I see as being essential.

Which party aims to do these things? None. When we vote, we choose to give up some or most of what is important, and hope that our candidate actually follows through on the one thing we were hoping they will do.

Sorry to be so bleak. Perhaps the only thing we can count on now is each other.

Correct me if im wrong but: to the people on here calling trump a racist biggot etc where did they get that information from? Was it the same place that tells you over and.over again that vaccines dont cause autism?

To Twyla, Ron, Gary --

Thanks for responding to my questions. Twyla - thanks especially for the YouTube links - I had known about and read Rep. Posey's statements, but they are much more powerful in video format. He is a brave man, and I'm sorry that he seems to have been marginalized, as Ron and Gary suggested. What you're hearing from me is frustration and sadness. I had such high hopes for dissemination of the documents, and I was sure that those documents would reveal an irrefutable truth. I had also hoped he could convince friends and colleagues in Congress, but given my lack of success convincing my own family and friends on this issue, perhaps I was being overly optimistic.

I do think it's fair, though to ask about Rep. Chaffetz and his Committee and to hold them to some account. They are in the majority in the House and they do have power to do something, and they're not doing anything. I'm an Independent, but if Democrats are going to be criticized for their support of vaccination, why shouldn't Republicans be criticized for their lack of action in bringing the risks of vaccine policy to light?

Linda1,

"You didn't answer my question. Did you see Vaxxed?"

I didn't answer your question because you didn't ask a question. "I have a feeling that you haven't seen Vaxxed" is a statement, not a question.

"Good people have risked their lives to fight the pervasive present evil."

Agreed; that was the point of my comments. However, I also made the observation that, at least in recent times, the impact of the examples provided has been minimal.

"What will seeing the movie do? It will help to spread the truth and unify and empower the people. We will win when we pierce through the propaganda and spread the truth far and wide, and when people en masse, including the medical community, refuse to go along with the corrupt oppressors. There are a lot more of us than there are of them. That's how we win."

Now, I did ask the question of specifically how you would define 'win', and the steps necessary to achieve that 'victory'. I emphasized 'specificity'. Your paragraph above does not define 'win', nor does it specify the steps to 'victory'.

I asked the questions for a reason. If you're going to fight a war, and you want to win, you need to be very specific in your strategy and tactics, and especially with your logistics. Your plans also need to include some flexibility for the inevitable uncertainty. Your paragraph above gives none of that.

The problem, Linda1, is that you're trying to fight a corrupt and rigged system using the rules and regulations of the system. How could you possibly 'win' under such conditions? In the mid-late 1700s, the British imposed onerous trade conditions and taxes on the Colonists. Using your approach, the Colonists could have attempted to convince the British Parliament (in which they had no effective representation) to change their rules and regulations. How far do you think they would have gotten?

We have effectively no representation in our present-day version of Parliament; i.e., Congress. Yes, we go through the motions of voting for 'bought' candidates, but the only interests with real and effective representation in Congress, the Administration, and the Judiciary are the large sponsors and donors. So, we're in somewhat of an analogous situation to our forbearers of 250 years ago, but, unlike them, we have decided to take a path that guarantees defeat.

"Don't wave the white flag until the war is over. The war has just begun."

I hear this same wishful thinking from the climate change advocates, the wireless radiation opponents, etc. As long as the tactics and strategy of this war are founded on the rules and regulations of a corrupt and rigged system, the outcome has already been determined. An objective view of the trends in wireless radiation implementation, fossil fuel expansion, vaccine expansion, etc, should convince you of that.

You need to define very specifically the plan and strategy that will lead to your definition of victory!

http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/hillary-leaked-medical-reports-show-brain-damage-sources-confirmed/

Seems its all true (Hillary Clinton has dementia)
Binswanger’s disease (BD), also called subcortical vascular dementia,

Now tell me readers there is no cure for her BD and she is not physically or mentally fit to run for President yet alone be President. What Hillary needs is to build a nice room which looks like the Oval Office and let her sit there all day signing papers and not meeting with government leaders as an official visit but visiting her as the sick person she really is. I am sure Donald Trump for the sake of this country would build her a fake Oval office.

Linda1,

"We're going to win."

Please define 'win' with some specificity, and define the necessary steps along the pathway to 'victory', with equal specificity; e.g., Congress votes to effectively overturn 1986 Vaccine Act, the legislatures in all states with vaccine mandates vote to overturn mandates, Supreme Court overturns 2011 vaccine ruling, etc.

"It's a very powerful film."

As I pointed out in my previous post, you are under the illusion that exposing the truth will somehow result in major change. This whole business with Assange should have cured you of that belief. His major exposes of half-a decade ago landed him in effective prison, and had little if any impact on the real culprits he exposed.

The emails he exposed that Hillary Clinton turned over to the government, which showed that highly classified information was kept on an unsecured server, would have landed any of the readers of AoA in Supermaxx. Comey/Lynch refused to take any action. The emails Assange exposed of the DNC rigging the primaries should have had major consequences. Instead, Assange got targeted as essentially an agent of Putin.

I am still under the illusion that his next email release, most probably of the so-called 'deleted' emails, will be sufficient to remove Hillary Clinton from the race. There is little doubt in my mind they include damaging material about the nefarious dealings of the Clinton Foundation. However, when one considers the level and breadth of the high-ranking donors to the Foundation, including numerous foreign governments (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFcEnRu-hY8), even the Clinton manipulations, like vaccines/wireless radiation/fossil fuels/glyphosate, etc, may be 'too big to fail'.

So, while I don't doubt that Vaxxed is a 'powerful' movie, the emails were/are far more powerful, and they essentially led nowhere!

Dr. Kostoff,

I have a feeling that you haven't seen Vaxxed. Here's the link to get tickets:
http://gathr.us/films/vaxxed
It's a very powerful film.
If you're still teaching, you can assign it to your students for extra credit ;o).

We're going to win.

Here's Rep. Posey questioning the CDC at the 2012 congressional hearing on autism.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrCZAEZgIsY

Aimee Doyle,

"What has Bill Posey done?"

Here's my reading of the situation. At some point after Posey received the documents, he decided a Hearing would be useful. He probably met the Chairmen of the relevant committees, and was turned down. He may also have met with some members of these committees to gather a constituency, and my guess is he got nowhere. As far as I know, no one else even made the minimal supportive gesture of another five-minute Floor speech supporting Posey.

Posey then had two real choices. He could have done nothing; it would not have hurt him politically. Or, he could make a speech on the Floor, calling for a Hearing, knowing full well it was a meaningless gesture. He did the latter, perhaps getting a few points from the anti-vaxxers in his District, and not really hurting himself among the politicos and sponsors, since nothing came of the issue.

The public likes to believe there is value in exposing truth, especially through whistle-blowing. If only some brave soul could expose the potential dangers of vaccines, of wireless radiation, of fossil fuels, of water fluoridation, of biosludge, of astroturf, of..... Yet, we see numerous examples of people making great personal sacrifices to bring the truth to light, and what happens: NOTHING!!!

As we saw from the DNC emails about the primaries, we are living in a rigged system. These feeble attempts to change the system within the rules of the system are doomed to failure. How could it be otherwise?

The Thompson effort was doomed to failure from the start. The media opposed it, Big Pharma opposed it, all branches of government opposed it, the vast majority of the biomedical community opposed it, and most of 'we the people' either didn't give a sh** or bought into the mainstream narrative.

@Twyla

Thanks for your various posts on this topic. I agree with you that this is a complex issue. NO candidate is taking a firm, consistent position that would lead to action we need - either to prevent vaccine mandates or even to recognize the severity of the epidemic and work toward prevention and effective treatment of autism . I do have one question though. You had said --"I agree with Aimee Doyle's comments, except that while Rep. Jason Chaffetz has done nothing, Rep. Bill Posey has really tried, and deserves our praise and appreciation."

My question: What has Bill Posey done? I'd be happy to give him my praise and appreciation, and I'm not asking to be snarky. I know that he released a statement in the past, and I know that he has received the documents from Dr. Thompson. But I can't see that that he has released the documents, or had hearings, or even seemed to sway any other representative (Republican or Democrat) to ask serious questions on the issue. There has been no Congressional debate. What's the holdup? I thought these documents would be a smoking gun - I just don't understand why nothing substantive seems to have happened. I googled him and I couldn't find anything further. Perhaps I'm not so good at googling.

And with respect to Rep. Chaffetz, perhaps some of the Republicans on this forum could weigh in on why nothing has happened with the Oversight and Government Reform Committee? Republicans are in the majority on the Committee and in the House, so it's not a California situation. Why haven't hearings been held? Surely Rep. Posey could get - or has gotten- the Thompson documents to the Committee?

Not meaning to offend anyone or tread on political toes. Just super frustrated with our current Congress and everyone running for office.

Twyla,
Let me know when you run for office. I'm not kidding. You get my vote.
Thanks for chiming in. That letter says it all.
Re:
"Hillary Clinton sent out one awful tweet about vaccines which said; “The science is clear: The earth is round, the sky is blue, and ‪vaccines work. Let's protect all our kids. Grandmother knows best.” Yes, this is bad. But this doesn’t say anything about mandates."

I'm sure you remember that she said that in response to Rand Paul's comments supporting parental choice. In context, it is even uglier because it was part of an opportunistic political gang mugging of Paul. Instead of making a thoughtful statement that would advance the discussion and provide leadership, she chose to lash out with a dumbed down innane statement that she thought would be the political equivalent of taking a bat to Rand's knees while pleasing her Pharma masters by perpetuating their propaganda. Her behavior is even more outrageous given that she was undermining the professional opinion of an MD - not that an MD can't be disagreed with - but every MD that has come forward to say anything outside of Pharma's box about vaccines has been immediately cut down by these thugs. This is not the kind of woman that I would support for any kind of public office, let alone president.

Pam,

But I don't think it's good enough to say the problem is that we don't trust the FDA or CDC. The problem is that vaccines are not safe, and that will be true no matter what anyone says about them. There must be no mandates of any sort. If she doesn't say that, then we can't trust her either.

Obviously these are very troubling times, but Hilary isn't the only problem. Trump was at an NRA rally waving a long gun around vowing guns in every school, bar, etc. He has bandied about the idea of using nuclear weapons scaring 50 national security experts into signing a letter NOT supporting him. This has never happened before. Hilary has come out in support of getting rid of Citizens United which is at the root of many of our problems including Big Pharma buying every hoe politician in the country.
I understand the idea of it being great that Donald Trump voiced doubts about vaccine safety, but now that his poll numbers are down he has easily jumped into bed with mainstream Republicans and released a kind of boiler-plate economic plan that has never helped any of the people he claims he wants to help. (By the way Republicans, without a bailout of Detroit we would be buying all our cars from China now. Instead, the industry has paid back all the money and is showing a profit. That is a lot more jobs than shutting it down and exporting it to China.) Big pharma is probably Trump's next stop. Buyer beware.
Having our kids shot at at a concert by a mercury poisoned gun toter or killed by fallout and climate collapse is also a problem. Take off your rose colored glasses and see the real Donald.

Actually, one of the vice presidential candidates did speak out strongly in 2007 on the right to make choices on vaccines:
"I believe that the decision to administer this vaccine should be made by parents. My amendments further clarify the provision that a girl's parent or guardian has complete discretion to decide whether their child should be vaccinated."

That was Tim Kaine as governor - unfortunately signing a bill passed by the Virginia state legislature mandating HPV vaccines for schoolchildren. It would have been better if he vetoed it. But at least he refused to sign it until changes were made to make the vaccine totally voluntary. Instead of parents having to opt-out by completing a form that would be kept on record by the state, children would only receive the vaccine if their parents voluntarily opted in.
http://www.thepowerhour.com/news2/kaine_proposals.htm

And BTW the Virginia state legislature is 66% Republican and 33% Democrat.
https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_composition_of_state_houses
Republicans as well as Democrats received intense pressure from Merck.

There truly is not a clear bright dividing line with all Democrats for mandates and all Republicans standing strong against them.

Even if I wanted to be a single issue voter and make my decision solely based on the vaccine issues – never mind global climate change, pollution of the ocean, international relations, the economy, or a host of other issues – NONE of the candidates has clearly stated a position on vaccine mandates.

Yes, Trump has said that maybe we are giving too many vaccines, and that maybe vaccines cause autism. I really appreciate that. But when asked by Sharyl Attkisson about the right to make choices on vaccines, he said, “The bottom line is they have to get vaccinated.”
http://fullmeasure.news/news/politics/full-measure-sharyl-attkisson-1-on-1-with-donald-trump

Five years ago Gary Johnson issued a tweet against vaccine mandates, but since then he has been silent, as far as I can tell. If anyone has a more recent or full position statement from him, I’d be interested.

Jill Stein spoke out about corruption in the vaccine program, which is great. But what she said about mandates is:
“According to the most recent review of vaccination policies across the globe, mandatory vaccination that doesn't allow for medical exemptions is practically unheard of.”
Is she only against mandates if there is no medical exemption?? Even CA SB277 has a medical exemption. But medical reasons for exemption are very poorly understood. We need personal exemptions! Consumers and parents need the right to make choices for ourselves and our children! Jill Stein also said that dropping vaccinations rates “can and must be fixed”.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4ixbr5/i_am_jill_stein_green_party_candidate_for/d31ydoe?context=3

Hillary Clinton sent out one awful tweet about vaccines which said; “The science is clear: The earth is round, the sky is blue, and ‪vaccines work. Let's protect all our kids. Grandmother knows best.” Yes, this is bad. But this doesn’t say anything about mandates. And other candidates have also said that vaccines work and are important:‬‬

Donald Trump: “I am totally in favor of vaccines… I’m in favor of vaccines, do them over a longer period of time, same amount.”

“I'm a big believer in vaccines... When I was going to school as a young guy, polio was a really big problem and vaccines knocked it out.” (from above link)

Gary Johnson: Radio silence. Let me know if you find anything.

Jill Stein: “Vaccines in general have made a huge contribution to public health. Reducing or eliminating devastating diseases like small pox and polio. In Canada, where I happen to have some numbers, hundreds of annual death from measles and whooping cough were eliminated after vaccines were introduced.” (from above link)

Dr. Jill Stein ✔@DrJillStein
I'm not aware of evidence linking autism with vaccines. Let's do more to support autistic people & their families. https://twitter.com/colinmeloy/status/759512360797163520 …
1:59 PM - 31 Jul 2016
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Green party;
Green Party US ✔@GreenPartyUS
We support vaccines. The evidence suggests there is no causal link between vaccines & autism. #NiceTry, move on. https://twitter.com/sparkycollier/status/760081266972712960 …
6:02 AM - 1 Aug 2016
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Full comment on vaccines from Jill Stein -
"I don't know if we have an "official" stance, but I can tell you my personal stance at this point. According to the most recent review of vaccination policies across the globe, mandatory vaccination that doesn't allow for medical exemptions is practically unheard of. In most countries, people trust their regulatory agencies and have very high rates of vaccination through voluntary programs. In the US, however, regulatory agencies are routinely packed with corporate lobbyists and CEOs. So the foxes are guarding the chicken coop as usual in the US. So who wouldn't be skeptical? I think dropping vaccinations rates that can and must be fixed in order to get at the vaccination issue: the widespread distrust of the medical-indsutrial complex.

"Vaccines in general have made a huge contribution to public health. Reducing or eliminating devastating diseases like small pox and polio. In Canada, where I happen to have some numbers, hundreds of annual death from measles and whooping cough were eliminated after vaccines were introduced. Still, vaccines should be treated like any medical procedure--each one needs to be tested and regulated by parties that do not have a financial interest in them. In an age when industry lobbyists and CEOs are routinely appointed to key regulatory positions through the notorious revolving door, its no wonder many Americans don't trust the FDA to be an unbiased source of sound advice. A Monsanto lobbyists and CEO like Michael Taylor, former high-ranking DEA official, should not decide what food is safe for you to eat. Same goes for vaccines and pharmaceuticals. We need to take the corporate influence out of government so people will trust our health authorities, and the rest of the government for that matter. End the revolving door. Appoint qualified professionals without a financial interest in the product being regulated. Create public funding of elections to stop the buying of elections by corporations and the super-rich."

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4ixbr5/i_am_jill_stein_green_party_candidate_for/d31ydoe?context=3

I agree with Aimee Doyle's comments, except that while Rep. Jason Chaffetz has done nothing, Rep. Bill Posey has really tried, and deserves our praise and appreciation.

There's no question that in CA the Democrats pushed through SB277. But I will continue to evaluate each political candidate as an individual, and I am not going to give up on all the values that I agree with on the Democratic side.

And, like Aimee said, Republicans are currently in charge of both Congress and the Congressional Oversight and Government Reform Committee, but what have they done for us lately? Hopefully Republicans in Congress would vote against vaccine mandates - we'll see. They are also very influenced by corporate money.

I would be tempted to be a one-issue voter in the presidential election, but none of the candidates have taken a stand on no vaccine mandates. Everyone's afraid of touching this topic, which is a hot potato. Interesting that Clinton has been silent on vaccine mandates, although some magazine articles are claiming she's the only candidate in favor of mandates. Most of the sweeping conclusions about her opinions on vaccines arise from that one awful tweet, which did not say anything about mandates but gave her advice as a grandmother. I don't think I can base my decision on that one tweet, especially since Trump is insane, temperamental, ignorant, racist, rude, a conman and scam artist, has suspicious ties to Russia, and is generally so unqualified to be our president. Hillary did say in 2008 that autism is an epidemic, and that we need to investigate root causes including the alleged link to vaccines. She also has an autism plan on her web site that acknowledges the need for lifelong services for people with autism and support for their caretakers.

I'm all for debate and discussion on all these issues, but I really don't appreciate the tone of much of the political debate. Mary Holland is a long-time stalwart and brilliant advocate for our community, and it would be quite possible to disagree with her without being derisive and mocking. I'm not talking about everyone - some have disagreed with civility.

Ottoschnaut,
It was not my intent to criticize Mary. I responded to what she said, which is what comments are for. The democrats are not deserving of any praise. Together with the republicans, they are destroying this country. Proud? Impressive? Eloquent? Optimistic? Inspiring? They are complicit in a CDC cover up. They have refused to acknowledge a CDC whistleblower who has confessed to the CDC's ongoing poisoning of our population, while at the same time supporting legislation that mandates the administration of that very poison. They are colluding to keep this information out of the media and from the American public, while they perform in numerous deceptive dog and pony shows like the one Mary is describing. Few American politicians deserve any of those adjectives at this time in our history - certainly none of them on that convention's stage. We are a wounded, dying country, because of those politicians. Mary's first paragraph hit a large nerve.

Dear AoA Friends:

Ms. Holland has been busting her hump to keep all our kids safe for as long as I can remember,

Please review: http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/pelr/vol28/iss2/6/

http://www.jurist.org/forum/2015/12/mary-holland-vaccines-autism.php

http://www.ageofautism.com/2016/04/professor-mary-holland-et-al-speaking-the-world-information-transfer-un-health-and-environment-confe.html

I don't take medical advice from anyone except myself and individuals who I trust. I would not take medical advice from any presidential candidate currently running.

Ms. Holland did not endorse anyone for president- she is calling attention to the fact that the party that purports to advocate for personal control over one's body has completely gone off the rails with regards to vaccine policy.

Criticizing the author is the equivalent of a circular firing squad. This fight has no politics.

Mary Holland- thank you your tireless advocacy on behalf of all our children. You are one of the very few people who have demonstrably moved the needle in the direction of vaccine safety.

Posted by: Benedetta | August 08, 2016 at 04:01 PM

Loved your comment . And you are right , no-one is safe now !

The US of A has been a fascist / only for the corporation... nation for a number of years now.

It is a sort of a "media-military-medical-academia-banking industrial complex” that consumes far, far more than everything and does not understand why Americans would want anything other than more of the same.

Even “hall of fame fascist Mussolini” did not harm Italian children, as he needed them for war.

The first step in correcting the mess, would be to find someone who might ...at least try... to provide Americans the truth.

I was going to vote for Jill Stein, but read that she supports BDS, and so she lost my vote.

Well, I might as well throw my .02 in. I have both registered Dem and registered Rep in my wallet, one has expired. I think this is one of the most difficult decisions we have had to make as far as strategic decisions. As someone said, Hillary Clinton is a terrorist, Donald Trump is a pervert, and Jill Stein is a Doctor (Harvard trained and not accepting the vaccine doxology). I'm voting for her (Stein)!

Take heart, we only have three more months of this BS!

Oops, I Forgot to say:

I am the founding and current Chairman of the West Virginia Party of H. L Mencken and Samuel Clemens and Casey Stengel, with their guiding principles titled: "Accountability and Responsibility and You can check it out."

To Mary and Dan and all "life long Democrats" chiming in on this: Ask yourselves "Where, my God, has our Party gone wrong?"

But, no, Mary puts on her blinders, and applauds the "eloquent, optimistic and inspiring" blathering of welfare dependents, etc., and by association Mary goes against her own incredible honest work regarding vaccines.

Maybe we can, maybe we can't, ever get back to individual accountability and responsibility - and have the guts to revolt - in every way possible - against Orwellian Authorities mandating and forcing our babies and children to be poisoned by such criminals.

Life long Democrats can't have it both ways.

And for life long Democrats - I am so sorry that it has turned out this way, but take heart your struggles and hard work has to finally bear fruit and get this behemoth party that has lost it's way to turn around. I hope!

I saw the other day that a new (celebrity Bachelorette) mom was in tears over vaccinations. If children today were in tip top health and not all chronically disabled with auto-immune problems, I don't believe this would be happening. I feel sorry for parents today with the massive increase in the infant agenda, I mean schedule. Hep b at birth is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

Ran into an old woman at the pain clinic that wanted to talk - I did not feel like talking today but ==

She says she if voting for Clinton cause Clinton is a woman and it is time we have a woman in the White House, that men have messed it up and now it is time to give a female a chance.

What is wrong with that type of thinking?

That she is a woman first and a human being second?
That we now live in a time when there are people that really are confused about their sex - probably because of vaccine injuries to the hypothalamus. I do believe that - for lots of LOL--
'technical reasons' Mostly because there are tons of studies on mice with messed up hypothalamus that seem to be sexually messed up

That she probably was our president when Bill Clinton was in, so this might be her third term, but this time not by proxy.

That the sky is blue, the earth is round, vaccines are safe, get your vaccines, Grandma knows best -- and she has no other thought in that pretty little blonde head of hers about the status quo and she would do what ever the status quo says - cause she knows how to get along and to get along at this time is to claim the science is in.

I am a nice person - I am a very shy person- - can't tell here - but I get to say things here - or rather write that I would never look some one in the eye and say. I am trying to remember Del Bigtree's words to be brave.

So today I was brave - I told her that 30 years ago I took my son in to have a DPT shot and a day after he had a heart murmur were there was not one before, the second one he passed out and the third one he suffered seizures and a brain injury.

Trump said long before all this began that vaccines cause autism.

She of course has not a clue there is a problem - not one.
So I told her they now have 69 vaccines and booster to give to these babies, and now they will soon be coming for you.

She said she was a tough old bird and no one was coming after here.

Oh, but are we not naïve.

Aimee Doyle: Most of the Republicans in both the California Senate and Assembly voted against SB 277, as did some of the Democrats, but since the Democrats have nearly a two-thirds majority, it passed. If we could have swung four votes in the Senate, it would not have passed; it was that close. But this implies nothing about political parties. In another state, or Washington, D.C., it could just as well be the Republicans doing dirty deeds like this. It is possible that our representatives never have worked in the interests of their constituents, but today it is a certainty. It is good to be aware of history, as well. The Republican Party was founded in the 1850's by a group of abolitionists, and it was a really big tent-Karl Marx, who was living in New York at the time, sent President Lincoln a letter of congratulations on his election. What percentage of the black vote do they receive today? As for our legislature doing something about the epidemic of autism, I doubt that it is even on their radar. The California Republicans in office are too few in number to have any effect on policy; my own Assembly member made me so proud by speaking out against SB 277 on the Capitol steps that he became the first Republican I ever voted for (in the March primary). In most states the districts for both state and federal office are thoroughly gerrymandered, so that they rarely change in party or officeholder. As Lily Tomlin said, "As cynical as I am, I still can't keep up."

Aimee: to answer your question about Republicans in CA, from my perspective as a mom of two children - both vaccine injured that regressed into ASD, as well as the state rep for Canary Party, here is what I think:

From talking to friends and colleagues in other parts of the country, I feel fairly certain that a California State Senator who is a Republican will be a lot different from say a Republican State Senator in Utah or Texas. Here Republicans are vastly outnumbered, so they have to go along with a lot more Democrat deals than they normally would if there was more balance between the parties. If they don't work with Dems, then they get no support for their own bills, and will accomplish nothing in office. So there is much more compromising on the part of the Republicans in California vs. other states.

As far as the Democrats, I have seen things go from bad to worse in the past 16 years that I have been paying attention to vaccine rights here. It used to be that all constituents concerns were at least given the appearance of respect. Now parents get scowls of haughty disdain from the all-powerful Democrats at the Capitol. I always take to heart a quote by THE most famous woman Democrat, Eleanor Roosevelt, who said: "no one can make you feel inferior without your consent." So I refuse to acknowledge when staff are condescending and rude in regards to my rights as a parent and as a citizen. I see that behavior for what it is; a HUGE deficit in THEIR moral and professional conduct. But I remember when I am at the voting booth.

Two of the most wonderful, respectful, helpful and all around proud to know Republicans in Sacramento are Senator Joel Anderson, and Senator John Moorloch.

And in all fairness, two Democrats stand out, and deserve probably even more praise, because they went against their party to support us, for which we were grateful: Senator Connie Leyva and Assembly Member Mike Gatto.

A special BOO goes out to Senator Jeff Stone, a Republican that voted against us. He is a pharmacist that is supported by his industry. He was disgraceful in his support of SB 277.

Thank you, Mary, for fighting for us. I pray constantly that this horrible bill will pass away, as in "this too shall pass." My daughter grew up chronically ill and so I know what it is like to have a sick child. Barely a month passed without antibiotics. Family vacations were tainted by the ever present anxiety that my daughter would get sick, and she often did. And when she got sick she often couldn't heal herself. In adolescence we discovered her immune system was flooded with viruses, in her twenties she was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and even with a special diet she has severe anxiety and meltdowns. Did vaccines cause all of this? I don't know but vaccines didn't seem to work. She got whooping cough after the whooping cough vaccine, and ataxia after the MMR. She was one of those who lived in California that should not ever have been vaccinated. Now her daughter is unvaccinated and is vulnerable to the dictates of this law.

Remember Slum Dog Millionaire where the low moment of the film was the blinding of a boy so that he could get more money as a beggar. We in California under this medical regime are in the same situation. Children risk being maimed for profit. Of course, not all children will be permanently maimed by vaccines, but many will be. And those who escape maiming might one day look around at their siblings and classmates and feel guilty because they won and the others lost.

Fortunately science is catching up with the vaccine schedule, that was never tested in the first place. Vaccines cause inflammation and inflammation disrupts neurons at a critical time of brain growth. Now it is almost common knowledge that aluminum adjuvants can cause mitochondria disease. Parents who don't want to take the risk that their children could be maimed for life are rewarded with denial of access to education. So... let's hope Mary and the dream team can break the pattern and California can be a good place to have children again.

I am not only a life-long Democrat, but a life(well, starting at age 10) long history nerd. In the 60's, my patriotism got out of hand and I worked part time for the Johnson campaigns. That is until Viet Nam got out of hand and then I worked for SDS. Well I do want to make a point with my sordid introduction.
As we already know, people are not always who they say they are or will be." That is the nature of American politics. The questions are many for this election(which may in the end be rigged or not). If I'm not including all the media hype(and if that's possible to do) do I vote for a crazy man who has spoken negatively about mandated vaccines? Do I vote for a crazy lady who wants to implement mandates all over the country? Do I vote for Johnson where my vote will be wasted(some have told me that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary. But by the same token couldn't that also be a vote for Trump.?) So all that baggage plus the fact that we also have congress to deal with, plus special interest groups ie lobbyists, plus the corporations and those that want a new World Order. We also have a country where both parties have, for decades, imposed their will upon poorer more defenseless nations in yes, false flag wars and continue to espouse that"terror groups" are our biggest concern(well, #2 after Walmart) when the US has supported all the ME terror groups since the mid 1980's in order to extricate the USSR from Afghanistan. So to cut this dilemma into smaller brownie pieces: mandated vaccines vs WWIII. A promise(which is itself a question mark) of no mandated vaccines vs WWIII or a libertarian unknown whose vote won't count.

I'll be waiting for you call, Mary, on the 12th.

Maurine Meleck-never someone

Mary Love, I had hoped that by the end of your terrific article you'd tell me whom to vote for. Or do I have to wait until Aug 12 to hear?
Maurine

Dan,

"laura, i cordially disagree. i see no reason to infer support for hillary clinton."

Sorry, Dan, on this issue, I agree with Laura. Mary's first paragraph said it all: "As a life-long Democrat, I was proud to watch the Democratic National Convention. Hillary Clinton and its other impressive speakers were eloquent, optimistic and inspiring." If that isn't the language of a True Believer, I don't know what is. It's the sort of statement I would expect from a Kamikaze pilot after listening to the Emperor!

But, people are free to support whomever they want. Each of the serious candidates has major flaws, and a few relatively good points. The choice among the front-runners will depend on specific personal priorities.

What I found most interesting was Mary's choice of words to describe the political BS with which she was infatuated. Eloquent, optimistic; inspiring; these adjectives would be very appropriate to a slick-talking carnival barker, or vacuum cleaner salesperson. Where are words like 'honesty', 'authenticity', 'credibility', 'believability', and many others of that genre? She didn't use them, because they are not applicable to the spokespeople for either major party.

I am not sure how this bill has become a political party issue. By what I can tell with my facebook and other friends, the preference for this bill has nothing to do with party preference. It is mostly misguided ignorance among the majority of Californians that causes this bill generally to be supported. I am sorry to report that that is the case. Misguided as it is, this support of this bill points to the woeful inadequacy of general education in this country. The population is not curious. People don't want to find out what might hurt them. They prefer "Ignorance is Bliss" over knowledge that might save if not their lives, then often at least their and their children's well-being.

Beyond Treason
You better prepare yourselves for a shock with this one ! Crikey - what happened .

https://vimeo.com/48029906

Depleted Uranium (but I bet it isn't only that)
(Gulf War Syndrome , Anthrax vaccine , squalene mf59 )

Film : Vaccine Nation

https://vimeo.com/15036163

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Infowars suggested Hillary has Parkinsons disease , not me . Alex Jones is an entirely credible news source , and in view more reliable than the BBC\CNN\NCBC or the rest of the lamestream ,
The lamestream has become redundant . The LondonTimes , Telegraph , Guardian are all lying !

Hans, we don't censor your posts as a tally of your recent presence in the comments section would tend to indicate. occasionally we exercise editorial discretion in not using a particular comment, which may have been the case with you. -- dan

Both political parties can share the blame. Republic Chairman Jason Chaffetz, of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee leads a majority Republican committee (25 Republications; 18 Democrats), yet has never held hearings on the vaccine-autism issue. Previous hearings under the previous Chair, went nowhere.

From what I have read, Congressman Bill Posey, a Republican, has had thousands of documents provided by CDC whistleblower Dr. William Thompson, in his possession for at least a year. What has he done with them? Nothing -- that I have been able to determine. Why hasn't he done anything? Why hasn't he been able to influence any of his colleagues - on either side of the aisle - on this matter?

Trump supporters state that he will make a difference on this issue, based on certain statements he has made to the media. However, even a President Trump would need to work with Congress - and I haven't seen any political will from either party to take any action on the autism-vaccine connection. And I'm sort of skeptical of statements made during campaigns.

Full disclosure - during my 40 years of voting life, I have voted in every county, state, and federal election. For most of that time I have been a registered Independent, and I have voted for Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. I vote the person, and the issues, not the party. I have been active in writing and calling my elected representatives - and reminded those for whom I voted that I voted for them. However, I have gotten no traction on this issue from ANY politician that I have ever contacted.

Bottom line - I think we need a better strategy for convincing our elected representatives how critical this issue really is.

Political affiliation has always been a hot topic of conversation. The topic gives rise to some very heated conversation, just like whether or not vaccines cause autism, religious beliefs, gun control thoughts, etc. I was a Democrat for many years, until Dr./former Congressman Ron Paul, labelled as "crazy" by the media, got my attention and opened my eyes. I guess some would call it crazy to speak the truth, just as we are all "crazy" anti-vaxxers, even if we reject or question only one vaccine.

That said, I think that pharma plays the odds. Whichever political party has the most "peeps" in office gets the highest amount of political contributions. I think that the only way to bring honesty to our state and federal legislatures is to eliminate the industry contributions, and even the individual citizen contributions, altogether. Corporations are not people, and they never will be. Let each political candidate develop a platform of ideas and post it online using equal money from a new, tax-generated fund. Let each candidate get free commercial radio and TV airtime that is equal for each and every one of them, also paid for by this fund. Level the playing field, and see who wins on the merits. How about that for a change? No outside money needed. No outside money permitted. That would solve a lot of problems. No candidate would be indebted to any industry or individual upon their election to office. I am sick of all the sellouts from both political parties, but for now, primarily from the progressive Democrats, and I will choose each and every candidate based upon their ideas and platforms, their bills, and how they vote on issues of importance to me.

Charlatans can be eloquent. False optimism is a trap. This net cast to the masses to hold hands is not lined with unconditional love. You will have to take all your medicine before you will be allowed to hold anyone's hand and when you have received all your vaccines and psych drugs and whatever else is prescribed for you, the democratic leaders know damn well that they better be wearing gloves before they touch you.

The democrats are currently one of the most, if not the most, destructive forces on this planet. No hyperbole, they are working hard to take away our most basic human right to be left alone, to be unmedicated, to be unaltered, to freedom, to live in peace. They are for taking children away from parents. They are for the "state" usurping parental authority. They have engaged in and fanned the flames of hate toward the unvaccinated or even those who question the safety and need and efficacy of vaccines. They are not protecting us from pharmaceutical industry predators. They are holding hands with Pharma and want us to take the other hand. NO THANKS.

How is their behavior "progressive" in a positive way? What does that even mean?

I have tremendous respect for you Mary, but how can you be at all inspired by these criminals? They make me sick.

I was a long time Democrat, but there is no more basic civil right than to control what goes into your body.
SB277 violating the right to informed consent by withholding education,
SB792, forcing women of childbearing age to be vaccinated with products not tested for carcinogenicity, mutagenicity, or effect of fertility,
HR2232, Vaccinate All Children, subjecting even medical exemptions, (which are a sick joke) to school scrutiny
Barbara Boxer's Head Start on Vaccination Act, allowing only medical exemptions
All blatant disregard for religious, conscientious, and scientific differences.
I was not just disappointed I was appalled.

There is also the recent signing of the DARK act by our President.
Ms Clinton is similarly aligned with refusing Americans the right to know if a product is GMO, even to the point of considering Vilsack as her running mate.

Our political duopoly needs an "out of service" sign.

Life long Democrat; says about all there is to say.
Most Americans are life long Party.
But what they do in such cases is just stay home.
I do hope that is what the life long Democrats do this time too.

Dan,

I think the issue here is Mary's support of a candidate who is a proponent and defender of vaccine mandates, i.e. a proponent and defender of forced and highly unethical, immoral medicine, and who is not in support of parental rights and medical choice freedom. Additionally, that translates to a refusal to support and uphold the gold standard of ethical medicine, that of prior, free, and informed consent.

Since Mary frequently writes and speaks about the critical importance of upholding this most fundamental of human rights, to decide that which one does or doesn't allow to enter one's own body or that of one's child's, there is a huge disconnect to then voice support for a candidate who would violate this most sacred of human rights.

Additionally, Hillary's tweet heard round the world exposed her ignorance, arrogance, and possible corruption with regard to vaccines, not to mention her lack of concern and compassion for the vaccine injured and vaccine killed. That Mary would voice support for such a person/candidate is disheartening...at least it is to me.

i'm so glad to have another progressive democratic voice represented on age of autism! i too am a lifelong democrat and we need to make sure that aoa is welcoming to all political viewpoints.

Mary,

I do not understand your support for Hillary Clinton, who would no doubt enthusiastically support more states passing laws like SB277, or worse (like VA recently attempted to do)...and who would no doubt enthusiastically support attempts to mandate vaccines at the federal level.