Battle for California - Stopping the Pharma Juggernaut
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Lord Windemere

Peripheral neuropathy has been rarely ascribed to DDT, usually to a chronic occupational exposure; one syndrome consists of numbness and paresthesias, hypotonia and asymmetric weakness or paralysis, with slow spontaneous recovery when exposure is terminated


Cynthia - I'm with you.
Benedetta - Thank-you for the information on tin. Scary and not unimportant. I am totally on board with vaccines being THE single most easily isolated and controllable contributing factor in the autism epidemic as well as the epidemic of other chronic auto-immune, inflammatory, medical conditions that have surfaced, which emergence has led to a whole generation of worthless doctors, to the point that we actually have television shows documenting a countless slew of "mystery diagnosis" situations in which people have to see 10 or 20 doctors before they find one that has a clue, about anything. I am also implying that once Dan cracks the "polio" code, we may see implications in general about other heavy metals or toxic metal components or compounds, as well as other types of synthetic pesticides, and how they ALL affect the micro biome/micro virome, which in turn affect environmental and human health (though I think of them as one and the same now.)

I am seeing it like this: mining/metallurgy/pesticides/experimental plant breeding > forced microbial shifts (forced evolution) in the environment and human immune systems >increased toxicity/disease-producing potential in microbes plus reduced immune capabilities in humans > vaccine hypothesis > age of autism & chronic disease & reduction of the average civilian intelligence > pandemic spread of the for-profit medical/pharmaceutical industry > transfer of the remaining wealth of the general population, constitutional freedoms, and human rights to the medical industrial complex > rise of a 21st century defacto slave population whose entire lives are controlled by lack of health and successful marketing of pharmacy as the new necessary and mandatory way of life, to the detriment of all competing philosophies > Democratic rule loses out and the U.S. becomes the first Pharmaceutical Regime in the world.

Hurry up, Dan!

Cynthia Cournoyer

If polio is a man-made epidemic, and vaccines led to the man-made epidemic of autism, then we can conclude that man-made vaccines were never the answer, then or now.


I'm no expert on this, but toxic chemicals my affect the body in various ways, I presume.
So why blame it specifically on the polio virus (along with the poison)? Why not other viruses, bacteria, or dozens of other malfunctions of the body due to the toxin?
Just because an establishment eager to blame a virus picked on the poor little PV?


Well Jenny since you brought up tin

I did find that tin has very low toxicity - mostly it is excreted through the feces and urine, but dang - this on going article is making it clear that arsenic is probably working on the gut and the gut microbes - making them into monsters.

I did find that there is signs of toxicity of tin -- yeah; there sure are. Not tumors or cancers though but well here is a small quote from an article on pubmed;

" Many of the organotin compounds affect mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation and alter membranes, but the contribution of these biochemical and membrane effects in the cause of intramyelin oedema and neuronal necrosis has not been fully clarified. Widespread degeneration results, especially with trimethyltin. Peripheral neuropathy------"

Yeah oxidative phosphorylation , and peripheral neuropathy is hardly - mild?

No wonder they be a lining all these lids for glass canning jars, and cans we buy in the store.

The FDA has taken measures to reduce the amounts of exposure to tin.

So they coated the cans, and now we are worried about the coating itself.

Wellllll, I am sticking with - all of my trouble surrounds, and began with the incidences of vaccines -We need some real research; if nothing else to find out what we are at least be to tolerate.


My Dad is the worse for opening a tin can and leaving peaches or what ever in it - for storage.
With the can open - and oxidation occurring faster - it gives the food a metal taste really soon - within hours

Not all metals are bad for us - there is iron, zinc - but then too much - so that might be something a lot of people are worried about.


You are talking about adding too much organic matter to the water ways -- microbes then overgrow - using up all the oxygen as they metabolize the organic material - leaving no oxygen for the fish or much else except nasty old mud - tube worms. They do holding ponds for all industries now for that reason.

In canning even with glass jars - the lid that go on the top - have special linings too. It increasing shelf life. Lids and cans even though there is not oxygen inside the jar or can - and thus oxidation of the metals are slow (rust) - it still exist, and a lining will stop that. .


Some bacteria are both aerobic and anaerobic bacteria respond in different ways depending on their environment, such as obligate anaerobes. And ph affects them, too. Some grow by fermentation or a methane related process? In any case, how would various bacteria react under the combined circumstances of sugar and arsenic? How does the human body operate differently when exposed to sugar and arsenic. Now what is the end result of combining the changed bacteria with the changed body?

And then, if bacteria can shift according to the environment, surely viruses do, too. like polio?

RE: canning, I had been musing about lead leaching out of cans under acidic conditions. For instance, tomatoes are acidic, right? I think pure metals for tin were hard to come by at a certain point in history, so it made me wonder whether acidity leading to leaching metals within a can could promote a shift in anything still alive in a can leading to toxicity by the time the can is opened and that maybe the plastic liners were preventing a step in that idea, but it sounds like plastic liners were for multiple other purposes. Thanks for the feedback.

On wikipedia's site about arsenic that an arsenic compound was also used to treat syphillus, like mercury was, at one point in time. mercury or arsenic plus syphillus = tragedy. probably extends to many microbes.

Francis Weibel

"Why did food companies start using lining in cans - as in BPA plastic lining, now being slowing replaced with BPA free plastic lining)."

I can think of two possible reasons:
1) With the plastic lining the canning process can go faster, thereby lowering costs.
2) Quality control is better, as the plastic lining prevents the metal from interacting with ingredients and affecting the flavor.

Gary Ogden

Jenny: Another point: The current algal bloom fouling Florida's coastal waters and beaches? Sugar industry waste. That industry is so powerful and politically connected in both Florida and Washington, D.C., that nothing has been or will be done about it. The way I understand it both C. tetani and C. botulinum are both anaerobes, which is why they produce their toxins in places with no oxygen supply, such as in necrotic tissue in deep wounds and in canned goods. I don't can, but I do a great deal of fermenting, in glass only (though ceramic works well). The Lactobacilli in fermentation overpower all other critters. Fermentation is much better, producing probiotics and prebiotics, and safer, than canning. I doubt the material in the can would make any difference in spoilage; I suspect the lining is for issues of flavor, and, in acidic foods, to avoid the food and can reacting with each other.

david m burd

PS: Ironically opposite, but relevant, to what I said before about "too many factors, and not enough equations" to pin down absolutely the cause of the 1916 "polio epidemic."

Thus, I will say with confidence, there are indeed a clear number of individual actors, and an abundant number CDC/NIH/FDA equations, to come to a clear conclusion that: The U.S. Immunization Schedule is literally destroying our children and their families, and our country.

There's no way I can be humorous about this --- but maybe Kim Stagliano has done it best; thanks, Kim

david m burd

To Dan and Dan,

From what has been documented by many including Dan's/Mark's book Age of Autism, the enterovirus "polio" has been endemic throughout human history. This cellular-dependent "virus" has been literally embedded in human culture forever.

To be specific about Dan Burn's question, "which came first?" (the virus or the arsenic?), I will say what I've said before: Virtually all two-year olds have already gone through "asymptomatic" or "non-clinical" infections of the polio virus - and therefore should be immune to it thereafter.

BUT, it may be per Dan Olmsted's ground-breaking series here, that such as arsenic-polluted sugar may disable a child's immune system, and allow a re-emergence of the polio virus' potential (already, but harmless, in the child's intestinal system) to manifest its possible "paralysis' symptoms.

As I've said before several times, "there can be too many factors, and not enough equations" to ever pin down an absolute solution.

At this point, I shall retire with a good, cold, pint of Yuenglings.


Dan, after your last installment, I began reading further into the sugar industry - from an environmental standpoint. In places where sugar is being processed, it's a big problem contaminating the waterways. I started reading about the evolution of different efforts to reduce the sugar industry byproducts and clean them all up before they hit the waterways, the repeated promises of the manufacturers to address the issue, etc. The companies that offer the solutions don't get into too much detail about what, exactly, they are trying to filter out, but I bet their solutions would be very enlightening to read about.

Halfway through reading, my thoughts were that if the general public knew how disgusting and bad the environmental damage was from the manufacturing process, nobody would want to give their money to the sugar industry anymore. And the parallels between environmental damage to waterways from sugar and what's being done to prevent/correct that, and damage to the human intestinal and blood systems and what's being suggested to prevent/correct that are simply stunning.

I was intrigued by these definitions:
Chemical oxygen demand (COD) is a measure of the capacity of water to consume oxygen during the decomposition of organic matter and the oxidation of inorganic chemicals

Read more: Chemical Oxygen Demand - Cod, Assay, Waters, and Organic - JRank Articles

Chemical oxygen demand is related to biochemical oxygen demand (BOD), another standard test for assaying the oxygen-demanding strength of waste waters. However, biochemicaloxygen demand only measures the amount of oxygen consumed by microbial oxidation and is most relevant to waters rich in organic matter.

Read more: Chemical Oxygen Demand - Cod, Assay, Waters, and Organic - JRank Articles

I was actually wondering if there are parallel COD or BOD tests for human applications, for instance, to see if a person at any given point of time, is capable of surviving a vaccine or not, depending on the results. Or could one do those tests on blood before vaccination and compare them to blood after vaccination, in an experiment, for instance.
I'm sure further clues will be found looking into aerobic vs anaerobic conditions, as well as acidic vs alkaline conditions.

And though it's out in left field, following some of those parallels , I again stumble across tetanus and botulism. C tetani and c. botulinum (c standing for clostridium - c. difficile anyone? Could present day polio be treated with fecal transplants vs prevented by vaccination?). . . toxic germs often heard about in conjunction with metals: tetanus from rusty metal, stepping on nails, cutting umbilical cords. Botulism, of course common in canning, is it more common from cans (aluminum/tin/pewter containing lead) or glass jars? Why did food companies start using lining in cans - as in BPA plastic lining, now being slowing replaced with BPA free plastic lining).
Both tetanus and botulism as medical problems involve various forms of nerve damage/paralysis, including trouble breathing, which might have back in the day also required iron-lung type life support.

Dan Olmsted

Hi Nick -- Mark Blaxill and I looked at the arsenic poisoning in the Indian subcontinent in our original Age of Polio series ... I agree that it's no coincidence.
Dan, thanks for the comment. I've revised. I'm assuming that the infection and arsenic exposure would have to come within a few days.
Benedetta -- sugar beets are another whole issue. stay tuned i'll be looking at them.
Lou -- thanks, your support and input has been invaluable. more to come!
Autism mom -- i'll check those out...
Best, dan


Dan, I have been waiting each week for your next story to hit AoA. I find the reading fascinating and enjoy doing research myself, especially on controversial issues that so called science has claimed to put to rest. Have you looked into the epidemic of Acute Flacid Paralysis (AFP) hitting India? From the little bit of info I have been able to dig up there are claims that the majority of cases are coming from the poorest areas that have issues with arsenic. What a coincidence huh?!!!! We come in with a live oral polio vaccine and make sure it is administered to all in India so the WHO can claims India polio free. Then the number of reported AFP cases sky rocket and no one cares because they claim polio has been eradicated from the area. If you are already aware of this issue I apologize, but I couldn't help notice its relevance to the work you are doing with the polio outbreaks in the early 1900's. As they say, history repeats itself!

Dan Burns

In Brooklyn, which came first, the virus or the arsenic? And how did the virus get there?

Louis Conte

The maps say it all!

This is a great, thoughtful and well researched series.

Well done.

Autism Mom

Hi Dan, Here are two scholarly Massachusetts institutions that may be able to help you get more facts and figures for your quest.


Sounds like that Mrs. G.W. Franklin got so sick from probably being poisoned from arsenic from her own ice cream then got better from it when she was in the hospital away from it - only to get back to her poisoning and it finally finished her off. That is so sad, but WOW! Pretty well points to poisoning for sure.


when I lived in Michigan, in the Bay area,, and I do see one dot of polio there; - they grow lots of sugar beets.
Were they not not growing sugar beets in Michigan during 1916? Perhaps sugar from cane was so much easier, cheaper - the refineries in New York so much more - productive that sugar beets just was not their main source of sugar?

Ahhhh; but this stuff from Hawaii treated with arsenic weed killer - had to be sold cheaper cause it came out cloudy - and one thing you can say for those in Michigan - they came from fugal, God fearing stock.

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