Munchausen's by Proxy is a projection diagnosis. It occurs when a medical doctor places blame on a parent for the harm that the doctor is doing to that child when the doctor deliberately sickens the child and then controls the outcome, denying the child of therapies that might help and by ordering tests and treatments that do not help and often make the child worse, in order to profit, maintain power and get attention.

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Remove "blame the parent" , and replace it with 'blame the parent's genetics" , and you have the autism diagnosis.

Dr Briggs,
This is a link to an interview with a fellow oncologist, Dr Neil Spector, about his experience with Lyme.
Perhaps hearing this information from a colleague will be more meaningful to you.
He also wrote a book called Gone in a Heartbeat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9iflckw-Y&sns=em

Benedetta, I think you may be right and Billy just does not understand. Billy , you are probably one of those people who has never reacted to a medicine in your life, right? No idea what it is like to have immune issues and to be ridiculously prone to medication reactions.
my family has the mthfr gene and family autoimmune issues all over the place. My eldest son is ridiculously healthy. Hasn't had a day off sick in years. But like the res tof us, he can't handle medications well. His doctor put him on an antibiotic for acne once, and he had a reaction of brain fog, being unable to concentrate orfocus, it was almost like living with someone with instant onset alzheimers. We told the doctor, and got him off the stuff, , and within a week, he was fine. Then there was the time I went temporarily blind from another ( different) antibiotic.

But probably you have never reacted to a medicine in your life, so you have no idea what it is like to be super sensitive .
We do know that Sara had a serious , bad reaction to Gardasil. It seems possible ( just a layman's guess) that she might reacts badly to other medicines too,. And interestingly, that is exactly what she described.

In the experience she describes with the medical profession ,her first MD 's level of "treatment" was to diagnose "allergies" That one really helped her to walk and get better, right?
(Is that the one you are recommending she go back to?)
Or is it one of the 16, I think they said? medical specialists who prescribed her medications that apparently per her description, severely worsened her symptoms?
As an oncologist, , I am sure you recognized those names and would know about any serious side effects those medications could have.
Organ damage; how many of the medicines she was prescribed have that as a side effect? You are a physician; could you tell us?
Like you, I think it is terribly sad that she can't walk. Unlike you, I don't blame her mother for what appears ( in my laymans opinon), to be a medical ( how to put this politely ?) mess up from the get go.

This isn't medical advice, just my opinion. My family as I have said before, overreact to medicines etc, but it seems our hyper effective immune systems, when left alone, are pretty good about fending off acute illnesses. The other side of that is we are super prone to autoimmune conditions. We go very carefully with all medications, and also with things like vitamin supplements as well. We found a good MD who, like us, prefers not to over medicate and lets the body heal itself. You might be right and maybe Sarah could find a mainstream MD who is willing to listen, watch for side effects, and might be able to find a way to help.
That is her decision, of course.
Perhaps you will understand better if we talk about car mechanics.
A mechanic has a special new treatment for your car.
As a result of the treatment, your car no longer runs. You go back to him, and he says there is nothing much wrong with the car, it just doesn't do well in the heat.. You walk home. He refers you, eventually to another mechanic. This mechanic treats your car, and as a result, two of the wheels fall off. You finally find a different, non mainstream mechanic. He says he can't completely fix the car, but at least he gets the wheels back on again, and it moves a bit. Someone online reads about your car woes and explains that actually the problem with the car is all your fault, and that the car would be fixed if you weren't deliberately making the car stay broken. This person also tells you that you need to take the car back to one of the first two mechanics immediately. Would you do what they said and return the car to the first two mechanics?
Something you may not realize; people who have been seriously damaged by doctors may find it hard to trust them again.

https://pompiliomartinez.wordpress.com/2016/03/04/motor-and-sensory-clinical-findings-in-girls-vaccinated-against-the-human-papillomavirus-from-carmen-de-bolivar-colombia/

Billy;

Perhaps the lady in the video, should have gone into it more of what happened of why she fired the rheumatologist.

I think it is hard for people to understand that many times with a lot of these diseases -what we have to face from the medical doctors, nurses, hospitals.

Perhaps if I explain my own experience you can get a drift of what it is like to get help.

I know that I; for years I could not get help with my son's seizures. After he had had several strange episodes, along with grand mal seizures , and myoclonic jerks,--- it was a confusing -how we could be so ignored? Unbelievable actually.

I begged constantly to the peds to send me to a neurologist. I remembering finally after being turned down again, and my 15 minutes for the appointment was up; that - I went directly from seeing the doctor right to the office clerk and made yet another appointment the very next day' to continue the conversation of why we needed a neurologists. How much are these doctors getting for an appointment? Ask yourself that, and then if you are a doctor - as you say - answer it.

Once we got this hard earned appointment with a neurologist he proved what my son's peds told us that he would not be helpful at all. We went to several appointments and he dismissed us.
He told us not to come back for just those myoclonic jerks, only if he had some more grand mal seizures.

My son by the way had such bad myoclonic jerks, that at times he had to hold the walls.

After more seizures, more begging to send us to a neurologist - but not that one-- and yet we were sent to that neurologist anyway; again. .

Fast forward through the years - and my son is finally on seizure medicine and doing well - but he has been through five neurologists before he got help.

At last; this year: His most recent neurologist we went in for his yearly medicine prescription -- caused us to get messed up with an EEG overnight in his hospital - and they are charging us 10,000 dollars -- insurance negotiated it down to 5,000 dollars. If I look on line for this procedure it can range from 200 dollars to 3,000. I might be being overcharged for this simple overnight EEG test; do you think?

. Ohhhh and the company that owns the machine - charged me 300 dollars, the doctor 200 dollars and the hospital -- 10,000 - negotiated down by my insurance to 4,800 which is right there -at my deductible, and what I have to pay. .

Then I find out that the overnight EEG has a 80 percent failure rate of catching a seizure, and even though the EEG came out good and the doctor discussed briefly getting off the medicine - but rarely does juvenile onset myoclonic epilepsy go away - to call his office and they will send me a prescription and instructions of how to slowly decrease the medicine

We called two times - for two weeks and talked to them - but they never followed through.
Do you think the hospital had put pressure on the neurologist to get him - to get some patients in for a simple procedure. - and over charge them?

I think that was the case.

I have been with three family members to see these rheumologists too, and as bad as the neurologists seem to be -- the rheumologists seem even worse.

Perhaps it is the medical profession that has some form of of -- fancy name - Man chargerous- alottus for notus muchus.

Barry;

While I agree with your comment about Munchausens, it just goes against the grain to leave the good doctors quote on the top of the thread. Hence this comment..

I do notice Dr Briggs has not yet responded to any of Danchi's questions..

Just to remind Dr Briggs, here is a quote from Danchi:
" Where did you get your MD? What medical school did you go to? Since you are triple bonded are you published? Someone with you stunning credentials must have publications somewhere. Can we have a peek? "

Interesting that Dr Briggs chose not to criticize the Gardasil vaccine, that left this young lady severely disabled, nor her original MD who diagnosed her with "allergies" when she apparently had rheumatoid arthritis and other health issues, nor referenced her severe reactions and the weight loss and organ damage that was described as a result of the medications she was given.

Surely a physician such as Dr Briggs states he is , could give us lay people some input and illumination in these areas. . Yet the only person he has chosen so far to criticize is her mother, even though the young woman is 23 and therefore has been an adult, and hence able to make her own independent medical decisions for the last 5 years.

Dr Briggs,
I strongly suspect you may be suffering from M.A.D. (medical arrogance dystrophy), a syndrome that develops after trauma to the ego, out of proportion to the actual events.

Billy Briggs,

You seem to have missed a lot if all you got out of the video was that she had rheumatoid arthritis. Sounds like she had a lot of other things going on as well, including lyme disease.

And you apparently also missed out about all the prescriptions and "help" the mainstream doctors gave her.
She wasn't getting tramadol or steroids from a naturopath, Billy.

A 23 year old adult is certainly allowed to choose the medical treatments she receives, and she seems pretty sure about which ones helped and which ones didn't.

Billy Briggs
You watched the video--so what! You don't see the issue because you don't want to. You can't see or understand what you are not looking for or open to the possibilities of. Classic pro-vaccine indoctrination. Can you answer any of the question I asked you in my previous comment? If you can't you're just here doing this:
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Billie Briggs:

My daughter then tested high for ANAs and unspecified inflammation so they sent us to a rheumatologist. She had been to another one - before - useless. My Mother had been to one years ago after a flu shot reaction -- useless, My husband have a two tetanus reactions - had been to several - Useless. My baby cousin after a DPT who developed RA at five years old - the doctors and rheumatologists seem to care less. Grandma was given the task of giving her the hottest baths she could, and some kind of treatment that did help uncurl her fingers some. .

Too bad they don't understand that it is looking like food allergies and leaky gut. They might have actually helped my cousin with diet - but my baby cousin in buried close to my grandparents. She died first and their broken hearts took them soon after.

But this new rheumatologist my daughter went to -- said let it go and see what happens but mean while take the Ibaprophan and the Ultram Oh-- and see you in six months

can you believe that my daughter went on to have a flu shot -- which took her into depression - and they upped her Prozac (peds put her on Zoloft - when she was only 14) Turns out she has bipolar.

Another auto immune disease you might want to remember. I found her cutting imaginary botworms out of arms and hand one May Sunday morning - Yes, that was my Mother's Day Present.

She back off of Prozac - she was highly nervous, anxious - could not even go to the store with out the fear all over her face - but in a month's time she returned to her work - as a nurse and did pretty good till she cut her leg on a piece of tin roof. They did stitches and she said just a tetanus shot only - but I knew the next day it as more - since she developed a whooping like cough that lasted for weeks. The bill came in and yes it was a DTaP shot.

In a month she had IBS - depressed - and the fools upped her Prozac.
I called her health provider, her work place - the doctors called her health provider and the health provider finally took her off of Prozac.

I spend two weeks driving her all over the place because she was coming off of this antidepressant -- She said that she had only felt this bad and hurt this bad emotionally when he boyfriend in high school died in a car wreck.

So, We got her over this and again she was anxious - her health provider gave her some kind of benzos; that is like valium, zannax ; to take the edge off, and she really needed the sleeping pill ambien to the point she obsessed about it . She could not sleep. Ambien; the NIH said shrank women's brains, so they reduced her dose by half. . She wanted more - so she ordered it off line , Now here is were it gets dicey -- when you are dealing with illegal ordering of drugs from India, is it exactly what the brand name is, or is it something else.

. Her work caught her in a random drug test, that said she had valium in her system and she did not have valium prescription. So, she lost her Did she order valium too? It does not matter she should not have ordered it., but this is where we as a society might be more responsible - about making addicts and drug abusers

She is in AA and she is finally following her holistic Mother - advice on low carbs, no gluten, fermented milk products, garden raised - exercise and sun.
She has lost a lot of weight since she is off most medicine - not all - those medicines make you gain weight She is not taking ultram/ but she does hurt.

Can she be made worse if she gets a random flu or virus? Is her immune system really messed up and she needs to be careful

Notice how much the rheumatologist helps.

Do rheumatologist still give gold treatments?
That seemed to work, for so many. Like my little cousin who had RA right after a DPT shot when she was five years old.

Billie Briggs.

My daughter on her way to becoming a nurse - second BS degree had the Hep B. On her third in the series of Hep Bs she came down and stood in the hall way and told me that she had always been stiff and hurting; but never this bad in a very long time.

When she was Two years old - seven weeks after a DPT shot - which she reacted to and was sick for seven weeks - she finally came down with Kawasakis disease. The Fourth of JULY we spent in the hospital and we got her out and took her home about this same time. She walked like a little ol'e lady, if she turned her head she turned her whole body. She was always since that time stiff and hurting.

So she has rheumatoid arthritis?
Posted by: Billy Briggs | July 13, 2016 at 04:21 PM

That's makes sense because rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disease.

So she has rheumatoid arthritis?

"About four percent of girls that are getting this vaccine at this time are presenting with arthritic type conditions, and I wouldn’t recommend her getting anymore."

That is a huge number of serious adverse reactions.

Well said, Bob Moffit!

After listening to the long audio recording of Sara at the bottom of the page, I have to say she is brilliant!

I am sorry that some well-respected people are "offended" when the word "holocaust" is used to described what has happened in our country to an entire generation of our most precious resources .. our children ... but .. listening to Sara Sotomayor's mother tell her story at "VaxXed" in Pittsburgh .. provokes the very same outrage in me that I get whenever I am reminded of the failure of so many people in Nazi Germany who WITNESSED EVERYTHING .. YET .. SAID NOTHING TO STOP IT.

Consider how many WITNESSED .. a perfectly healthy, indeed thriving 13 year old .. experience serious .. life-altering symptoms ..

The doctor .. the doctor's staff described by mom as "they" .. indicating more than one staff member .. the school nurse .. the emergency room staff .. again described as "they" ..who identified sudden on-set Rheumatoid Arthritis in a 13 year old .. 16 DIFFERENT SPECIALISTS .. ALL DENYING A VACCINE COULD HAVE CAUSED SARA's OTHERWISE INEXPLICABLE .. SPONTANEOUS .. AUTO-IMMUNE PROBLEMS .. AND .. "THEY" ALL RECOMMENDED MORE VACCINES FOR SARA BECAUSE HER IMMUNE SYSTEM HAD BECOME VULNERABLE TO ANY VIRAL OR BACTERIAL INTRUSION.

I see absolutely no difference between those in Nazi Germany who remained SILENT as the HOLOCAUST .. (officially sanctioned as the "final solution") .. was unleashed .. causing the death (murder!!!) of MILLIONS .. and ... those medical professionals who witness a similar HOLOCAUST (officially sanctioned by recommended and approved UNAVOIDABLY UNSAFE vaccines) occurring today.

If you are offended by the label "holocaust" .. I apologize for having offended you .. but .. to put it bluntly .. to me .. "if it waddles like a duck .. quacks like a duck .. it is more than likely a DUCK"

http://healthimpactnews.com/2016/angry-parents-in-colombia-shut-down-schools-lock-gates-in-protest-over-hpv-vaccine-injuries/

Angry Parents in Colombia Shut Down Schools, Lock Gates in Protest Over HPV Vaccine Injuries