Dachel Wake Up: Politicizing the Vaccine Controversy
Regrettably Yours

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Benedetta

Could arsenic stop a cell from using glucose and make it get stored as fat instead, when it comes to the chicken?

I found some articles that suggest something on that order.
That arsenic is associated with diabetes.

Cait from Canada

Jenny, you mention a public bath in New York that was open until 1958. In Montreal, public baths were around quite a bit longer than that. The one in my old neighbourhood, Schubert Bath (aka Bain Schubert), was open as a bath until around 2000, when it was renovated and converted to an indoor swimming pool.

Dan, very interesting series, thank you.

Adam Mortenson

This article reminds me of this book by William Duffy. Great read. Thanks for all you do!
http://www.amazon.com/Sugar-Blues-William-Dufty/dp/0446343129/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465142850&sr=8-1&keywords=sugar+blues+by+william+dufty

Linda1

It's really incredible how so much of our cultural beliefs and practices are based on myths that few have questioned. And we think we're so advanced. No matter how lonely it gets out there, please stay on the trail, Dan!

Dan Olmsted

Linda1 -- I've been learning as I go with this series, in part from reader input. If I did the whole thing at once I don't think it would benefit from that. The revised post of the first six parts coming this week will sharpen the focus on what I believe I've discovered. At the end I'll put it all together as an e-book. thanks for reading! -- dan

Linda1

Dan,
I wish the series was published daily instead of weekly. I don't like waiting a whole week.
It's funny how certain memories are vivid. I don't remember most of the day to day of my childhood, but I do distinctly remember standing in line for that sugar cube and putting it in my mouth. Now that I think of it, I wonder if it was put in my hand or into my mouth? I think I have a vague memory of it in my hand, which now that I know it contained live polio virus, would have been dangerous, right? Anyway, at the time I was little and had no idea of the significance of what was happening at the time, yet I remember it. Must be some spiritual reason why.

Tim and all,

I have to comment on the hypoglycemia experiments. Horrifying to learn what this Sandler guy did to monkeys and rabbits. Pure torture. How many of you could do that to beautiful innocent animals - even ugly ones, for that matter? So horrible.

Birgit Calhoun

There are ways to increase yield by less than wholesome means. I am looking forward to finding out how it's done in Hawaii. I know how they did it in vegetable gardens where I grew up. Heat treating might have been feasible in Hawaii. I am just curious how.

Benedetta

Tim Lundeen Thanks for the summary. It is very interesting.

How come arsenic puts weight on Chickens? Have they ever figured that one out?

Dan Olmsted

thanks for the comments and feedback. next week we will combine a revised version of the first six parts, and then keep adding the latest segment to it weekly as well as publish it as a post on saturday.
-- dan

Jeannette Bishop

I hope these will be published in hardcopy (book) form. If so, I might just stop now and wait for the rest all at once moved away from my brain-irradiating computer (probably not, but...). Waiting a week for a little more (I'm sure hard-won) insight shouldn't be so hard (on my part), but ... so if I suddenly stop complaining, I mean commenting on this series assume I've resorted to the above course...

Jenny

that little sugar cube looks so interesting now, one can almost see the drops of polio vaccine patterned amongst the crystals.

have to say, i was happily waylaid after the last article, splashing mindlessly about in the wake of the comment re: that canal being just a McGuffin, following the online ripples wherever they drifted. there's more than one way for tainted water to rise up on our doorsteps, after all. i learned a bit about the history of water supply among the great American cities such as New York, and Philly, and Boston, and LA, and San Fran - all rapidly expanding in the early 1900s, with rising populations requiring ever yet expanding sources of clean water such as reservoirs and long distance aqueducts, probably McGuffins themselves, yet a commonality of those cities histories. didn't all that water lead to "swimming pools and movie stars" in california, and pools in urban/suburban design were quite the sign of a good life back in the post wwII day. Public baths, aka, roman style were promoted in the late 1800s/early 1900s to assist the poor immigrants whose housing situations lacked bathing facilities. the east 11th street bath in NY wasn't closed until 1958! And what with that little nugget of ancient history rolling around one's head about the use of lead in ancient rome and high levels of it found in skeletal remains being different from pre-roman conquest / and post "fall of rome" skeletons, coupled with historical assessments on the weakening (what weakened, their numbers, their muscles, or immune systems?) and the eventual unavailability of native Romans for the armies which lead to the hiring of Goths to work as Roman soldiers (did anyone see the news recently that the U.S. Military is now considering including all females in the draft registration process), well, i did wonder what role toxins and and leaching lead patterns in our aqueducts and plumbing might be playing in the undulating our modern day medical history . . .
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2509614/

it was all very interesting and better men than me have been up that road and back, but i am glad to be on to sugar. it looks to be a sticky business. it's crazy how little history i learned in school.

Tim Lundeen

@dan

I've been following up on some ideas from previous threads, and it does all check out so far.

Sandler (http://whale.to/a/sandler_b.html) showed that low-blood-glucose (hypoglycemia) dramatically increases the risk of paralysis from polio infection.

(1) Low blood glucose can be caused by intense exercise, and it is well-accepted that this increases the risk of paralysis when there is active infection. "Dr. Levinson found that monkeys forced to swim to the point of exhaustion in cold water developed more severe paralysis than did either those that remained in cages or those that were immersed in water at body temperature and protected from exercise and chilling.” Shades of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

(2) Hypoglycemia following a bolus of starch or sugar would also increase the risk. Sandler did experiments with rabbits, infecting them with polio and then giving them insulin to cause low blood glucose, and this increased the risk of paralysis: "The next step was to lower the blood sugar of the rabbit to subnormal values with insulin injections, and then inoculate the rabbit with polio virus. This was done and it was found that the rabbits became infected and developed the disease."

What Sandler didn’t know at the time is that cane sugar can be contaminated with deoxysugars, and that deoxysugars cause effective hypoglycemia. With the deoxysugar deoxyglucose, for example, cells preferentially take up deoxyglucose, but can’t use it for energy — so cane sugar contaminated with enough deoxyglucose would increase the risk of paralysis from polio infections. (This idea comes from van Meer’s paper, http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/diet-and-polio-Van-Meer-science.pdf.) The paper "THE EFFECT OF 2-DEOXY-D-GLUCOSE INFUSIONS ON LIPID AND CARBOHYDRATE METABOLISM IN MAN” says “In the presenceof 2-DG [the deoxysugar deoxyglucose], although the measured plasma level of glucose is high, if cellular utilization of glucose cannot occur the organism can be considered to be functionally hypoglycemic.”

van Meer also notes that DDT affects blood sugar, and that this effect could cause increased risk of polio with concurrent DDT exposure. I haven’t been able to find definitive evidence that DDT triggers hypoglycemia or effective hypoglycemia, but this paper in mice is suggestive: http://thirdworld.nl/the-inhibitoty-effect-of-ddt-on-insulin-secretion-in-mice It says "In fact, a slight hypoglycemia was observed at both the 5- and ?-hr intervals. Interestingly, at these time periods the DDT-treated mice were exhibiting marked tremors.” So they found some hypoglycemia, and tremors can be a symptom of hypoglycemia (although they can have other causes). So it is certainly plausible that DDT causes increased polio paralysis due to hypoglycemic effects.

The funny thing is that Sandler didn’t know about deoxysugar causing effective hypoglycemia, and van Meer didn’t know about Sandler’s work showing that hypoglycemia increases polio paralysis risk, but they both could see a relationship between paralysis risk and blood sugar. Sandler thought the risk was from hypoglycemia in response to a bolus does (which does happen in some people), but actually deoxyglucose contamination is a more likely trigger. van Meer thought increased risk was due to high blood glucose, because that’s what deoxysugars trigger — when cells have effective hypoglycemia, there is a counter-regulatory response to raise blood glucose to try to resolve the apparent low-blood glucose state.

Benedetta

Oh yeah, it is a thriller -- Back bone of a dinosaur - Love it? I know so little about Hawaii, and how the land lays. Wonderful.

--- And How do you kill a weed back in 1913?

Mother was remembering back to her childhood just the other day .She was born in 1929, Dad 1924, and they spent their summers continuously pulling weeds all summer long and hoeing. She said everyone was just worked to death and everyone had a job to do, even the tiny little kids barely able to walk were set to task to throw stones at the birds during the day.

So how did they kill a weed other than just throwing vinegar on it, or burn them
- for both ways they all just come right back.

Gary Ogden

Laura: I waited till the second cup so I could savor it with a fully-engaged brain. Agreed, Dan, you're a gem. You've really done your homework, and given us enormous food for thought. By the way, to this day you can see oxcarts with wooden wheels in the rice fields in the Philippines, and even in Manila!

Laura Hayes

Captivating! A Saturday morning must with the first cup of coffee!

Thank you for being the investigative journalist that you are, Dan. Seems strange that at one point in time, there used to be many investigative journalists. Glad one of the last is on our side, working to expose that which so many are now working day and night to keep under wraps and hidden from the public.

You are a true gem, Dan :)

R's dad

Better than any thriller I've ever read. Great work, Dan!

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