By Anne Dachel
June 26, 2016, Andy Wakefield sat down with Polly and Jonathan Tommey to discuss the impact of the vaccine measles virus on the health of children, along with what’s happening with the “Vaxxed” tour, and what lies ahead. He also talked about the relationship between live virus vaccines and aluminum and mercury used in other vaccines.
Andy began by explaining that babies don't have a natural measles protection any longer from their mothers (because of the artificial immunity from the MMR) and they would be especially vulnerable if everyone stopped vaccinating. He also explained that the measles vaccine has dramatically changed the measles virus.
“If you interfere with the natural processes that have been established over tens of thousands of years, if you make assumptions about things as collectively sophisticated as viruses, then nature will exact a very, very big price, and it won’t necessarily do so immediately. ...
“So if you interfere with the natural process of infection, take measles as an example. By changing the strain of the virus that people are exposed to, changing the age at which people are exposed—because when there was natural exposure--the mean age was four, five, six, seven, when kids went to school, and you change that to 12 to 18 months, if you change the route by which you’re exposed to a virus, if you change the dose of the virus people are getting, if you change the way in which they’re exposed to other viruses at the same time, like mumps and rubella—if you change all of those things in a heartbeat effectively, then that is a massive change in the dynamic of that infection and its host, the human being. You must expect a huge consequence to come down the line.
“Why? Because these viruses are geared up to adapt, geared up to survive and they’ll do so at any cost. They have an infinite capacity to mutate very rapidly to produce new variants of the virus that are capable of surviving …And they’ll produce new diseases as well, new manifestations of the same old disease.
“That’s what’s happened with vaccination. In a very short period of time the entire way in which the human race sees the virus has been changed dramatically.
“I say that because we’re seeing the consequence of that I believe in a pandemic of neurodevelopmental disorders in children.”
According to Andy, getting out of this scenario has to be done carefully because any change from the artificial immunity from the measles vaccine also puts children at risk. He talked about how this could be done.
Next the discussion moved to our current vaccine schedule without either informed consent or choice.
Here are some of Andy’s remarks.
"[Parents] are threatened with all kinds of dire consequences if they don't [vaccinate]."
"It must stop. It must stop. This whole coercive process. It's not the mark of a successful system that relies on public confidence in vaccine policy makers. It's a failure. When you threaten someone, ...what kind of system is that? That's a system that has failed. The way you have to mandate vaccines because people's instincts and their understanding tell them that this is not safe, there are problems and we're being lied to--which we now know we are.
"When you have to mandate, that is not the sign of a system that's succeeding. It's a complete and utter failure."
Then Andy talked about what’s happening with “Vaxxed”
“I think one of the most interesting things is Polly’s camera was disabled by a hacker on her phone, so she could no longer broadcast. Now that tells us they are just terrified. And these stories are reaching—one story went to now…400,000. Those are numbers that are clearly terrifying the opposition, and they decided to take action and hack her phone. …
“So it’s having the impact that it’s meant to be having, that it should be having, and people are getting the message.
“Wednesday we are going to Los Angeles. We’re being joined by Del and Sheila Ealey, and Dr. Rachel Ross, and we are speaking at the Santa Monica rally in protest to SB277.
“Then there are openings of the movie in Las Vegas. …Then it’s showing again in Pittsburgh. Then there is going to be a showing, hopefully to politicians, in D.C. “
Polly said there will be Q and As in all three places.
Andy next talked about what parents can do. “Clearly people have got [U.S. Congressman Jason] Chaffetz’s attention.”
A senior staffer in Congress who’s been a longtime contact of Andy’s gave him this advice:
“The most important things people can do, when your Congressman, your Representative, comes home in mid July…please, please, please, take your vaccine damaged child to his [or her] office. …Do not be put off by staffers who don’t want your child in the office. …They have to understand what it is like living with a vaccine injured child. That is going to have the most impact of all.
“So take your child to see your Congressman in his district office when he comes home in mid-July—because he [or she] needs to give support to the members of the Oversight Committee in bringing Thompson and his fellow fraudsters before the Oversight Committee. That is the most important thing that can happen now.”
Andy continued talking about the impact of the children’s stories being recorded on video at “Vaxxed” screenings. He said it isn’t just the children who have been damaged by vaccines and forgotten, but also “the parents of children who have died—so many deaths, absolutely heartbreaking.”
“Vaxxed” has given parents who were left to grieve alone a voice, according to Andy.
“And the way the doctors have responded to those deaths is, to me, the most terrible thing, the most terrible thing. ‘I know the vaccines killed your child, but I’m never going to say so.’
Andy gave the example of a child involved in a clinical trial for a vaccine who died within 48 hours of receiving the injection. The doctor denied a connection. Andy added that any death in a trial would result in the vaccine being pulled, so of course there was no link.
Jonathan Tommey asked Andy about pretesting kids to determine those whose immune systems couldn’t handle vaccines. Andy said that here’s where use of aluminum and mercury comes in.
“If you take a child and you preload them with vaccines that contain aluminum and thimerosal, that skew the immune system towards a pro-allergic type— that creates an inadequate anti-viral response, and then you give them a live viral vaccine like MMR, they can’t handle it. That’s immunodeficiency….”
Andy went on to talk about what’s next for “Vaxxed.”
“The next thing’s that going to happen is Theatrical on Demand. What that means is …for example, communities where you don’t have enough people to sustain a week’s run of the movie in a theater, we go to Theatrical on Demand where you can do a night or two nights screenings. It all goes through the movie theater, but you buy tickets and when you achieve a certain number, you have reserved the theater for that night, it’s going to make enough money for that night…. And the local ambassador rallies the local community, you pack it out. And that’s the next thing that’s going to happen.”
This means “Vaxxed” can be everywhere, according to Polly. Jonathan noted that there would be new “Vaxxed” merchandize at the upcoming screenings. http://vaxxedthemovie.com/ As Jonathan mentioned, “ ‘Vaxxed’ merchandise helps to create awareness of the movement.”
Andy added, “The other thing we roll out very soon is special interest groups—churches, doctors’ offices, communities—getting the screenings. …We’re really, really, really keen to get churches involved.”
Andy summarized the situation at the end of the video when they were discussing California State Senator Richard Pan’s latest actions.
“We have the truth on our side. …The measure of how successful ‘Vaxxed’ has been, and how things are changing, is just how angry the other side is getting.”