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Birgit Calhoun

It could be Hawaii, but it could also be Kharkiv, Ukraine. That's exactly 4884 miles from New York City. I don't know how there might be a connection, but early vaccinations were done there. That neck of the woods had lots of polio.

cia parker

Polio can be spread either through the water or the air. The EV-68 two years ago was airborne, and caused tens of thousands of kids to get severe respiratory symptoms. About 120 cases of paralysis, 12 deaths. It's in the polio family, another enterovirus.


LOL! Thanks Dan, I will try to be patient.

So 4,000 miles we are going with this.

Would that be back toward the sugar canes of Hawaii?

I found this

"In 1900 more contract laborers were brought from Puerto Rico, in 1903 Korea and between 1907 and 1931 the Philippines. Most of these stayed in the islands and started families. Meanwhile, the native Hawaiians became a minority in their own homeland.

For almost 75 years, sugarcane reigned, subsidized largely by the U.S. Federal Government. Sugar planters ruled the islands’ economy, changed their social structure and kept them in a colonial plantation style of living with bosses and field workers."

Soooo what was it like to work as a field worker, did they provide latrines in the field during the harvest?

Dan Olmsted

benedetta -- that's a good thought and may be true but it's not where i'm going, so to speak. stay tuned! dan


Geesh, I got to thinking - 4000 to the sugar cane fields to find some animal that carries the some virus belonging to the polio virus class-- the Picornaviridae family, or maybe just 2500 when they loaded the sugar up on the train cars.

What else did the train cars carry? Cattle/horses/livestock - perhaps?

Dan Olmsted

birgit -- my understanding is that it's theoretically possible to spread polio through water (and flies) but the focus on these as major vectors was all wrong. i'm studying it as i go, though, and open to more thoughts. i guess if the water had fecal contamination ... but that seems like a much more inefficient route ....

Birgit Calhoun

My recollection of a polio epidemic also had to do with a hot summer. It was in the early 1950s in Bremen. Children could only go to city-maintained chlorinated swimming-pools and the entrance was free. No swimming in rivers and ponds was allowed. The theory at the time was that it had something to do with open waters. We didn't go swimming at all that year. To make it easier for us children, we also could go to all the museums for free.

Dan Olmsted

david -- that's an interesting line of inquiry that hadn't occurred to me. i've seen suggestions that the epidemic -- which was well under way by the time of the first shark attack -- drove more people to the beach to try to escape crowded city conditions that were suspected of spreading the virus. so just like charts that correlate ice cream consumption and polio cases, you can google and find one that shows shark attacks and polio rates. and 1916 was an incredibly hot summer also leading to more beach-going. how all this interacts is a little beyond my hypothesis but you're triggering new thoughts. thanks for reading it...

birgit -- i'm always interested to hear from folks who remember details from times past (not 1916, i know!). hadn't heard of sugar loaves and will incorporate that into my thinking just as lou's comment on seeing sugar pouring out of boats and into the factory in yonkers was very helpful.

we have a long way to go here and i hope and believe it will be worth the trip. stay tuned all, and please keep commenting.

david m burd

Of course sharks may prefer chocolate or vanilla body odors, only logical.

AND, just guessing, but were (or are?) shark attacks most always on children/youngsters who I eat a lot more ice cream and candy bars/sweets compared to adults?

Imagine the Dairy Lobby & Sugar Lobby from whence ice cream originates reacting to the solid evidence that sharks just love to chomp onto ice cream and/or sugar eaters! It would be identical to the CDC reacting to the abundant evidence that the Vaccine Schedule causes autism, etc. "IMPOSSIBLE, THE SCIENCE IS IN, VACCINES DON'T CAUSE AUTISM! - THE SKY IS BLUE, THE EARTH IS ROUND!"

david m burd

So sharks with their amazing olfactory sensitivity detect human "body odors" based on the individual's diet --- like heavy intake of ice creams rich in cane sugar.

Sharks head for the human dessert buffet, yummy, yummy. Bingo.

Jeannette Bishop

I'm still stuck on the ice cream, the sticky sugar in it I guess, and whatever might be stuck within the sugar (from 4,884 miles away?), and tonsillectomy and ice cream, and increased poliomyelitis risk seen with tonsillectomy, and ice cream cones that I had to eat quickly before they melted as a kid (which may not mean anything, the eating it quickly...but it did sometimes kinda hurt...and quick temperature changes, how that might affect tissues or concentrations in tissues)...and I just thought of how the lymphatic system (or "lymphoid organs" anyway) includes the tonsils (if this page is not too misleading: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/what-organs-are-part-of-the-lymphatic-system.html ) and is part of our immune system...and I kind of want some ice cream right now despite all that, but I'll be good.

It is a rather ominous narrative though...somewhat circumscribed by the quote, “No circumstance in the history of polio is so baffling as its change during the past fifty or sixty years from a sporadic to an epidemic disease.” No official explanation still and here we are with laws like SB 277 getting a lot of tacit support because of the spectre of polio, and the whole March-of-Dimes-type response, I guess, trained most everyone to think vaccine = "the solution" to disease, the reason we don't hear the word polio much any more, and sometimes extended to the reason we're not dying of plagues in the streets.

If officials seemed surprised, or too slow to contain the outbreaks of "polio" then, what is happening now, or is going to be the final outcome (will anyone truly record the results) with officials dogmatically convinced they must stay their course and even get in the way of understanding what is causing a huge what-should-be-enlightening percentage of today's environmentally induced epidemics?

Birgit Calhoun

So, what about that sugar cube? I know abut sugar in those days. The sugar in those days came in the form of sugar loaves. I don't know much about the process of making sugar loaves, but I presume the refining of sugar produced vapors. Maybe it's how the wind blew from the refineries. Maybe it carried the flies along the streets distributing their infectious materials.

Great mystery. I am ready for the forensic files to produce an episode.


Red magic marker dots and Sherlock Holmes quote noted.
Seat belt fastened.
(Jaws music playing in the background)...


I guess we should not skip the clue that it was unseasonably warm and we have sharks coming in close to the shore.

So much going on.



Further to what Gary said, we simply have no idea whether measles virus or polio virus or smallpox virus or whatever even exist, much less cause the damage people have claimed they have.

By way of example, historians will swear blind that 10 million people died of smallpox in the Americas during the Spanish invasion.

The thing is though, that none of them were actually there. Cortes was there. He devoted the grand total of half a page to the "plague" that was supposedly wiping out the entire population.

Ok, Cortes was no angel but it does strike as more than a little odd that the one guy that was there thought it was much ado about nothing but those who claim it was 99.9 per cent of the whole story were just trying to outcompete each other for the most outrageous guess.

In short, we have no reason to believe that billions of people have died in history from smallpox.

We have no reason to believe that millions or even hundreds of thousands of people have died from smallpox. Not even the symptoms themselves - let alone the virus.

Of all the smallpox diagnoses in history, less than 0.000000000000001 per cent of them would have had any virus isolated from them - or been tested in any form. How on earth people can go from that to being sure that 100 per cent of smallpox cases had that particular virus on them is beyond me.

The virus is nothing. And epidemiology is almost always a fairy tale. 500 million people did not die of smallpox in the early part of the 20th century. Those numbers come from countries with no cause of death data. Those deaths ascribed to smallpox were just as likely to be caused by car crashes, lightning strikes or spontaneous combustion as they were smallpox. Health agencies just pulled the number out of their behinds to make their supposed eradication program look good.

And it wasn't eradicated anyway (not that there was any culpable virus to eradicate in the first place). We know this because the CDC openly admit that we should ignore positive smallpox lab results because they *must* be "false positives". Convenient hey? Declare something to be eradicated and then whenever you see it just say that it must be something else on the basis that it doesn't exist because you have declared it not to!

All of virology and immunology is a lie and the vast majority of epidemiology is.

We have no idea how many people in history with a rash and fever had measles virus on them. Less than 0.00000000001 per cent of people in history have been tested for it.

Same for all the others.


So (I'm guessing) you think end of polio had something to do with the solving of the NYC horse manure problem? Maybe specifically at the docks the manure/garbage problem was worse than elsewhere in the city... A major sanitation problem for NYC (and other cities) was "solved" when horses werereplaced by the combustion engine.



Dan Olmsted

jenny, thank you for reading and sharing the same questions that occurred for me. there is a long way to go in every sense before this story is finished and i appreciate your sticking with it! -- dan


This is like when modern day detectives start looking into cold case files with a fresh perspective and a wider rear view mirror view of clues, or like the people doing the innocent projects using DNA to go back and fix miscarriages of justice.

That map of the outbreak is intriguing - I can see why it would draw your attention! Spurs lots of questions in my head.

Gary Ogden

cia parker: My point was simply that we don't understand enough about the microbial world and its interactions with the rest of the lifeforms on Earth to make categorical statements about their pathogenesis, particularly regarding viruses. Viruses are not considered to be free-living organisms, and can only reproduce after attaching to and invading cells. Whence they come? Cells. They are messengers produced by cells. They are so miniscule as to be very difficult to identify. Medicine has erred so frequently, and at times with catastrophic effects, that we must very cautious in trusting what "we know to be true." I have to laugh, in a grim sort of way, every time I hear the term "super bug," as if such were invaders from another planet, when they are clearly the creation of antibiotics, evolving in the way that everything else does, when faced by a threat to their existence, as has B. pertussis, in response to the vaccine. The paradigm has to shift. We must never forget, either, that the Pentagon's bioweapons labs are creating God-knows-what. I think it more likely than not that Ebola originated in one of these.

cia parker


Some pathogens only cause illness if there are necessary cofactors, while others will cause illness in almost every person not already immune who is exposed to it. Malaria is one, yellow fever is another. Pandemic flu, bubonic plague are others. Measles caused disease in most of those exposed to it, although after centuries of its having become a universal childhood disease, there were non-specific factors in place which allowed some to develop immunity from sub-clinical cases of the disease. Measles wiped out millions of Indians when Europeans first brought it, as they had no background of centuries of having gotten used to it as a population. Some pathogens are more virulent than others: like Ebola. New pathogens are often extremely dangerous, as they haven't tempered their killing power yet through survival of the fittest and people's immune systems haven't gotten their measure to prepare to combat it successfully. Two years ago many DID get immunity to Ebola sub-clinically, but as a result of African populations having gotten some experience of it over forty years. In the early decades virtually everyone exposed to it got it, became very ill, and died of it, including well-nourished Europeans (although it's also true that Europeans have never done well with tropical diseases).

I don't think it's a good idea to underestimate viruses. They can become epidemic, sweep through a population, and kill the majority, or even everyone, in a community. Polio had become a mild, universal disease by the nineteenth century that everyone got permanent immunity to (at least to the serotype in their community) from mild or subclinical disease. Other factors potentiated it to make it a sometimes paralyzing disease, occasionally killing. But other viruses have not become domesticated as polio had, and in the future there will probably be new viruses and new epidemics of very dangerous diseases. In that case, vaccines will have an important role to play, but homeopathic nosodes may have an even more important one, and be much safer.


A cliffhanger!

Gary Ogden

Maurine Meleck: You've made a good point that cannot be overemphasized. It is a mistake to believe (for belief it is, not science) that microbes play a primary causal role in infectious diseases, any more than the mistaken belief that cholesterol causes atherosclerosis. Polio virus, such as it is (I'm a skeptic of the entire field of virology, and rightly so, I think), is ubiquitous in the human gut. The paradigm of infectious diseases is sorely in need of a major shift. Science (and medicine) advances one funeral at a time, so I suggest not holding our breath. Dan: another gripping chapter in the saga. Thanks!

Dan Olmsted

Good point Maurene. It may turn out that some of the remedies used to treat it actually brought on poliomyelitis...

Maurine Meleck

just a FYI-the majority of people who contracted the polio virus had little or no side effects. In other words, their immune systems basically fought it off. The most common benign side effect was a case of a few days of persistent diarrhea.(so maybe not just the milk).


Almost all diseases in humans came from cross overs from other species of animals. Which I know we all know from listening to the CDC warning us that something is coming at us from birds, swine, bats, and meer cats in Biblical proportions.

If live long enough I suppose this new ability to do -sequencing will give us a lot of answers. It has been made cheap and fast ;we might really link some amazing things together. We already , I think, guessed right that there are endless viruses and bacteria in endless animal reservoirs, all ready to be carried by vectors if environmental barriers are removed

. It does come to my mind that the Mini Ice Age beginning in the 13 century, humans had no control over, as it drove small mammal reservoirs from Magnolia, and the steppes of Russian onto a population of humans weakened by the lack of food which was again the fault of a Mini Ice Age.

They said they can identify even the smallest population of microbes now, but they are quick to point out that is all - it does not tell them their preferred environment, or life cycle or anything else.

Manipulating the immune system with a vaccine as we all know here is not possible.
It is going to take knowledge , and not some CDC telling us to get our vaccines and sneeze inside our arm at the elbow.

And this blood sugar high and then dropping in human beings making people's immune systems weak is very interesting.

I wonder what kind of animal lived in the sugar cane fields that might carry a virus very similar to polio? A mouse, a toady frog, perhaps a fox, or maybe a free ranging hog?

So much to know, and since Dr. Walkfield's observation that if trends continue as they are right now by 2030 half the population will have autism - time is running out.

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