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By Dan Olmsted

A while back -- on September 4, 2008, in fact -- I wrote a post titled "Letting the MMR Off the Hook" that began: "The last time I saw Ian Lipkin was at the IOM Environment-and-Autism workshop last year. He was spending a lllloooottttttt of time describing some gizmotron that could do something or other to analyze some stuff that might hold clues to autism." I never published it. I'm not sure why, but I did make a note to myself that I was being "deliberately provocative," so perhaps I decided to hold off.

That, anyway, was my impression of Dr. Lipkin, and the bzzz-bzzzt-bzzzt at the meeting was that Lipkin, a professor of epidemiology and director of the Center for Infection and Immunity at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health -- it takes half an hour just to say the title! -- was hogging the microphone to promote, as I put it, some gizmotron, complete with a slide presentation. For all the world he looked like a salesman raising money for his lab, which sources report that in private conversations seems to be what he cares about.

I went back and found that column this week after picking up my Wall Street Journal on Monday at Starbucks and nearly spitting up my Venti Hazelnut Pike when I got to the Op-Ed page and found, by W. Ian Lipkin, "Anti-Vaccination Lunacy Won't Stop." The professor wants you to know that he was a major player in getting Robert De Niro to pull the plug on Vaxxed at the Tribeca Film Festival.

"I am among those Mr. De Niro consulted. In a 45-minute conversation with him, I recommended that the festival withdraw the film from the 'documentary' category and not screen it." 

Why not just title the column "I, Ian"? 45 minutes with a big star! And a star so famously inarticulate that a glossy magazine once titled its interview with him "Fifteen Mumbling Minutes With Robert Di Niro." I am guessing, but I bet Rankin spent a llllloooottttt of time talking. 

In the WSJ article, Lipkin also manages to call attention to a study he and colleagues did in September 2008 (hence the column I was writing back then), which supposedly absolved the MMR of any involvement with autism. "We tested Mr. Wakefield's two major findings. ... In our peer-reviewed study ... we found that only 20 percent of children fit the Wakefield model in receiving MMR vaccine before onset of GI disturbance and autism."

This study caused a lot of consternation at the time, not least because another author of the study, Mady Hornig, made extravagant claims about those findings and also because Hornig had long seemed sympathetic to vaccine safety concerns around not just the MMR but thimerosal. She authored the famous mouse study that showed auto-immune-susceptible mice given thimerosal chewing on each other and otherwise behaving like out-of-control autistic mice might be expected to behave.

I included her in that 2008 column, too, noting:  "The last time I saw Mady Hornig she was giving me a llllooonnngggg disquisition on exactly how the measles virus could mess up kids in a way that, I swear I'm remembering this correctly, leads to autism."

And I still remember it. She was telling me how the MMR could cause autism! She was doing vaccine lunacy! We were sitting in a round glass restaurant on top of a hotel in Crystal City, Virginia, talking above karaoke, one tune being "Brown-Eyed Girl" (How's that for recall!). There was a terrible storm that I decided to leave in the middle of, and ended up at a close-by friends' house waiting it out. I, Dan Olmsted, am a trained observer. I remember these things. (And here's a what-the-heck: Back in 2005, after the Times ran its infamous Parents-vs-Science takedown of the vaccine-autism concerns, Hornig and Lipkin were among those paying a visit to the public editor to complain. Who looks a little looney now?)

So when the MMR study came out and Hornig was fronting for it, I got the feeling it was a ticket back to respectable mainstream scientism. Mark Blaxill and I addressed it in our book, The Age of Autism, in 2010.

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“The Hornig study was by all accounts carefully done and the reported results valid. In the press release announcing the publication, however, Hornig went further, claiming, “The work reported here eliminates the remaining support for the hypothesis that autism with GI complaints is related to MMR vaccine exposure. We found no relationship between the timing of MMR vaccine and the onset of either GI complaints or autism.” In our view, this claim was an exaggeration. In her study, only five of the twenty-five children developed these symptoms after the MMR vaccine and therefore, only these five were comparable to the 2002 Wakefield study. In contrast to her public statement, her new study effectively confirmed that results from an earlier study from the laboratory of Professor John O’Leary were correct, and identical to the results obtained by the participating laboratories, which included Wakefield’s original collaborator, as well as the CDC and Columbia lab. Far from repudiating Wakefield’s findings, it provided support for the reliability of the original analysis.”

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As I look back at my e-mail traffic from the time, this observation was a pretty civil distillation of what most people in the vaccine safety community considered a stab in the back. The operative phrase was "selling out." 

"Just thinking out loud," one e-mailer said. "It’s a big claim to make for a little study. The evidence is what it is. But Hornig makes a grandiose claim. It’s kind of embarrassing, like the way she overstated her mouse findings (one mice ate through the 'scalp' not, as Mady said in talks, the 'skull' of its cage mate). Mady is a good scientist and does thorough work and we should respect it. But she’s way out of her depth as a big picture interpreter."

Right on cue, the Forbes headline read: "U.S. study claims to clear MMR vaccine of autism link."

"We found no difference in children who had GI complaints and no autism and children who had autism but no GI complaints," Dr. Ian Lipkin of Columbia University told reporters in a telephone briefing, according to Forbes, which added that "the team also collected data about the children's health and immunization histories from parents and physicians to see if vaccinations preceded either their autism or bowel trouble.

"We found no relationship between the timing of MMR vaccine and the onset of either GI complaints or autism," Dr. Mady Hornig, also of Columbia, said in a statement.

Said another of my e-mailers: "I am still actively angry at these two for their MMR capitulation and conference call about it."

I hardly think these two care. Not when they get a llllooooottttt of press coverage, have a lllooooonnggg conversation (45 whole minutes) with a big star, and get to have a five-column article in the journal titled "Anti-Vaccination Lunacy Won't Stop" all about a study that proved nothing, while hurling names like "lunatic." As a vaccine lunatic, I think I'll end with part of that post from eight years ago that never ran. So sorry if it's deliberately provocative!

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I especially don't understand how you get from not finding the measles virus in some kids with autism and GI problems, to making the evening news (as Hornig did last night) by saying that there is thus no connection between the MMR and autism.

Because, there is. I strongly believe the MMR can trigger autism in vulnerable kids, and this study does nothing to knock down that idea. I'm sick and tired of studies that put the burden on the critics of the untested, unsafe and pharma-driven childhood immunization schedule by going after particular theories of causation rather than figuring out whether the MMR causes autism ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. These piecemeal studies slice off one part of the pie -- and more money from the CDC -- and then say, see, we didn't find anything so vaccines are safe. Shoot 'em up!

I have been a longtime critic of the MMR, and it comes from spending a lot of time talking to parents of kids who got the MMR (usually with some other live virus vaccine or mercury-containing shot), got sick and regressed, as well as looking at the evidence that something fishy is going on when multiple live viruses meet and greet in developing immune systems.

Is the MMR alone behind the autism epidemic? No, it is not. There has never been an autism epidemic -- pick your country -- that can be traced to the MMR alone; even in the U.S., the spike in cases starting around 1990 came too late to be wholly or solely explained by the introduction of the MMR a decade earlier. What the MMR does do, I believe, is synergize with a pre-existing vulnerability (including a crapload of mercury) to make a subset of kids autistic.

That's the kind of thing you DON'T find when you take a bunch of kids -- most of whom regressed and had GI problems BEFORE they got the MMR, for crying out loud -- and look for measles in their guts, and not find it, and give the CDC an "all clear" to keep causing autism.

The question is, what are those vulnerabilities? I've spelled this out many times in many ways, based on what is now years of reporting, researching and listening to real people. You can find at least three ways to turn the MMR into the "autism shot," as Jenny McCarthy has aptly phrased it.

First, hit very young kids with multiple live viruses, either in concurrent vaccinations or because the child actually got sick near the time of the shot (Paul Shattock in Great Britain has done fascinating research suggesting marked regression after the MMR is more likely if a child has had naturally occurring chickenpox three months either side of the MMR shot).

Second, mix in a background load of toxins -- from where you live, what you drink, other shots or power plants or whatever that add in enough mercury, aluminum, lead, arsenic etc. to dysregulate the immune system just enough to make MMR feel right at home. The mercury-containing flu shot in pregnant women and infants as young as six months could be enough to tee this up, I believe.

Third, combine the above in a child with an inherited difficulty in coping with a particular virus.

Is it really up to the parents who have witnessed these reactions and tried to warn others to figure all this out, too? No, it's not, even though many of them are doing yeoman's work on that front. It's enough to say that all the evidence of our eyes and ears implicates the MMR in autism. This is why Bernadine Healy, the former NIH head, says researchers need to find 400 kids whose parents believe they got sick and regressed as an IMMEDIATE reaction to vaccines and figure out what happened to them.

Instead, we get self-serving rubbish like this. The only really interesting thing this time is who's taking out the CDC's trash.
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Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

Benedetta

Danchi:
And yet, all his kids seem to be crazy about him, respect him, and even love him.

Jeannette Bishop

Lipkin mentioned here along with several other interesting points:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WyM-NAhZgs

Video Description--NEWSFLASH: This tape was from 05/24/14 [with some limited edits to personal-related comments; but the substantive scientific discussion is all there]. It records Dr. William Thompson saying, “I do think thimerosal causes tics…tics are 4 times more prevalent in autism” [than other kids]. “There is biologic plausibility right now, I really do believe there is, to say that thimerosal causes autism-like features, and that’s the way I would say it.” If you want to know more, there will be commentary at the AutismOne 2016 Conference, as well as the movie VAXXED, Dr. Brian Hooker, and Dr. Andrew Wakefield. This audio posting is with the permission of Dr. Brian Hooker.

Linda1

Dr. Kostoff,

"I've done that to some extent, both with RFR and power frequency (60Hz) meters."

I have too. We know that wireless opens the blood brain barrier so that is just one effect of wireless that is likely working synergistically not only vaccines, but with all the thousands of toxins we are exposed to, to harm us. We also know that low levels of RFR can be just as if not more damaging than high levels.

For all those reading this who are new to what we're talking about - See Devra Davis' site: Environmental Health Trust. Use a wired computer, no wi-fi (if you must have, then turn it on when you use it and then off when you're done, always turn it off at night when you are sleeping so your cells can rest), no DECT phone, have an old fashioned corded landline (and fight to keep that technology - they are planning to get rid of it), do not give your kids cell phones (if they have them make them for emergencies only and kept in airplane mode or off while on them), never wear a cell phone on your body (in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions that no one reads) never in your pocket, or your bra and at least 6 feet away from you while you sleep if it is left on overnight), keep all wireless and devices away from reproductive organs (no laptops on laps, no cell phones in pockets) and also far away from pregnant abdomens, always use speaker with the phone kept far away from your body and keep cell calls to a minimum. Be alert to smart meters and fight to keep them off your house. If you already have one, join the fight against them and find an EMF/RFR expert who can help you to deal with or get rid of it.

Ronald Kostoff

USDA

http://www.alternet.org/environment/why-usda-silencing-its-own-scientists-warnings-about-dangerous-effects-pesticides

Ronald Kostoff

Linda1,

"Take an RFR meter through any big city and the readings will be extremely high."

I've done that to some extent, both with RFR and power frequency (60Hz) meters. It is a disaster waiting to happen, or, more accurately, it's happening, but hasn't yet fully surfaced because of the latency period. And, compared to cell phones, the cell tower antenna radiation is whole body. That may be why, in some of the cell tower studies that report increased incidence of cancer, the latency period is less than that for cell phones. I'll have to check to see whether that holds true for all cases.

And, in parallel to the vaccine issue, it's getting worse. There are more wireless devices being used, more cell towers being erected, and myriad new uses projected for wireless systems. Like the vaccines and other toxic stimuli, there is zero Congressional opposition to limiting non-ionizing radiation fluxes. Frankly, I see no way to halt the onslaught of vaccines, wireless devices, etc. While we can solve these problems technically, I see no way to solve them politically or sociologically. The only hope is to avoid exposure to any of these toxic stimuli as much as possible, and be one of the lucky few who escape the minefields of horrific diseases that result from these exposures.

Patience (Eileen Nicole) Simon

ATSC, Thanks for the link on cognitive failure following persistence of aluminum in the brain. Most important is locating what systems in the brain are affected.

I will continue to try to point out the vulnerability of the auditory system. And, that processing acoustic signals is important, not only for learning to speak, but for environmental awareness, which is essential for cognitive function.

In particular, the importance of the inferior colliculus (the IC) is something the whole world should come to know, as much as everyone "knows" about selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs). Bilateral damage of the IC disrupts comprehension of spoken language in people without pre-existing speech understanding problems.

"Minimal" disruption by aluminum, mercury, lead, viruses, alcohol and other (perhaps minimally) poisonous substances, can also lead to a subacute pan-encephalitic process with or without sclerosis.

Danchi

vac

Trump is attacked by mafia-party establishment from all sides, hence don't expect him at this time to talk about vaccines.

That is such BS and nothing but an excuse. He says and does whatever he wants and he doesn’t want to discuss vaccines or talk about them in his speeches and interviews because HE FAVORS VACCINES-Period and those who are on the Trump bandwagon makes all kinds of excuses for him. The man is not held in check by fear, conscious thought or remorse. Trump does and says what he wants to do. He’s got a hook into a wellspring of anti-vac supporters and now can sit back and not say another word about vaccines because of their cognitive dissonance.

Doesn’t know about Vaxxed? Do you really believe that? The man doesn’t live in a bubble and that is probably the lamest rationalization I’ve heard yet.

-I trust him, his judgment and leadership more that anybody else.
Good for you. It's good to believe in something.

-I don't believe he is misogynic:
18 Real Things Donald Trump Has Actually Said About Women:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_us_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

-Donald Trump Hates Women: It’s the one position he’s never changed.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/03/donald_trump_has_one_core_philosophy_misogyny.html

-“The most important, he is on the side of American children, hence he is the only choice for many of us.”
Where is your proof of this? On the side of children how? Because he mentioned vaccine caused Autism? So what. Where does he support parental choice??? There was ZERO talk of that in any interview or speech! He actually said,
"The bottom line is they have to get vaccinated."

He believes in vaccines and that they eradicated polio-unbelievable. He's not educated on the issue. He says we have to be careful about vaccines, but he doesn't say what that is. He has such a platform to bring the actual data to light and all he drags out is "this kid I knew..."? That was in an interview posted on AOA in 2007. HIS POSITION HASN’T CHANGED. That interview has tuned up on numerous anti-vaxx websites as if it recently occurred. It’s old: BRILLIANT TRUMP REVISES VACCINE SCHEDULE FOR HIS SON
By Kim Stagliano: http://www.ageofautism.com/2007/12/trump-did-not-f.html
I beg to differ with the title of the article. Truthking posted today Trump comments and didn’t reveal the date it actually occurred. That is deceptive and is it direction the anti-vaxx /pro-choice people really want to go.

He’s brought Ben Carson into his campaign and he has been stumping for Trump, like he did on the View. It has been stated that Carson will be his medical person if he is elected and Ben Carson believes in forced vaccination. Carson said parents had to do what the doctor says re vaccines. Here are articles over the last few years on Trump standing up for children if you are referring to vaccines:

Trump: I'm 'Totally Pro-Vaccine' But I've Seen Them Cause 'Horrible Autism'
"It's amazing that it's never discussed," he added, saying that he's gotten thanks from people who are "incensed in terms of what's going on with vaccines."

Trump, oddly, went on to state that he is nevertheless "a huge fan of vaccines" and "totally pro-vaccine." He suggested they be given in smaller doses.
(I put the first comment in so you won’t accuse me of cherry picking)
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-vaccines-autism

-Trump: I’m In Favor of Vaccines, But Dosage and Time Has Link to Autism
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/16/trump-im-in-favor-of-vaccines-but-dosage-and-time-has-link-to-autism/

-Donald Trump quotes: Vaccines, Ebola and Universal Health Care
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f1MgXxCjOnIJ:outbreaknewstoday.com/donald-trump-quotes-vaccines-ebola-and-universal-health-care-52395/+&cd=40&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Via Twitter:

“If I were President I would push for proper vaccinations but would not allow one time massive shots that a small child cannot take – AUTISM.”

“To all haters and losers: I am NOT anti-vaccine, but I am against shooting massive doses into tiny children. Spread shots out over time.”.
(parents can do that right now so Trump isn’t changing any policy)

Donald Trump HAS NEVER SAID PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO CHOOSE. However-Carly Fiorina Says Parents Should Have Right Not to Vaccinate Kids
http://time.com/3997620/fiorina-vaccines/

She was the only candidate who came right out and said the words Right Not To vaccinate.

You know what I find extremely disturbing about the many anti-vaxx sites/ pro-choice blogs…THEY ARE ACTUALLY CHERRY PICKING TRUMPS COMMENTS to frame him as a anti-vaxx/pro choice individual and he is not. He even says he‘s not. They are being deliberately deceptive…why? Anti-vaxx blogs have taken his remark about Autism and created this champion of the anti-vaxxe/pro-choice cause when he clearly states:
"Trump says he favors vaccines"
The Science of President Trump
http://blogs.scientificamerican(dot)com/guest-blog/the-science-of-president-trump/.

There is a lot of mind gymnastics going on to think Trump gives a rats about your family or your children but hey to each his own. There are lots of you who think he’s great-- but maybe the vaccine issue is a cover and you think he’s great for other things. There are lots of us that thinks he’s a egomaniacal narcissistic personality that is focused on himself and will throw anyone under the bus to get what he wants.

This is what Trump say about his own children:
On Having More Children With Melania Trump
“Cause I like kids,” he told the radio host Howard Stern in 2005. “I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds and she’ll take care of the kids. It’s not like I’m gonna be walking the kids down Central Park.”
Donald Trump’s Trail of Comments About Women
http://www.nytimes(dot)com/2016/03/26/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0

Don’t forget about that pesky document called the constitution that puts a limit on presidential powers. Each congressional member and senator has no less than 3 pharmaceutical lobbyist attached to them. Who do you think is going to ditch that flow of money from big pharma to help Trump? I can tell you NO ONE in Washington will be signing up for that and without the support of congress and the senate-no president gets anything done. Look at the last 8 years. We have seen it up close. Didn’t you learn this is government or civics class?

The country is screwed up--yea, but that began almost 75 years ago. It is not sane to trade what you perceive as vaccine freedom for devastating the country further. The only way change on anything is going to happen and especially in regards to vaccine choice is to happen from within. Change always occurs from the inside out. You want the vaccine mandate to change, it will need to be done through each state-from within the US. This is why NACCHO was created. To remove parental rights state by state and the only way to regain control is to fight on the state level.

However, since all empires fall before they can be rebuilt-Trump would fit that role as a destroyer in that regard but keep in mind if that happens that new world or country you want will take decades to develop. You and I probably won't be around to live in it but we will be here to see the destruction. Not something I look forward to.

ATSC

Birgit,

"What's being described sounds like something that kids who develop autism are going through."

It does. It also shows how dangerous these organisations are: The American Academy of Pediatrics, the Institute of Medicine, and the World Health Organization who claim that "vaccines are even safer than vitamins". Do they just take Dr Paul Offit's word for it that aluminum is a health-promoting nutrient and harmless instead of reading the scientific literature which says the opposite?



Linda1

Dr. Kostoff,
Take an RFR meter through any big city and the readings will be extremely high. Antennas all over the place. Blanketed in electrosmog. How about the readings in hospitals and churches where there are towers on the roof tops?

The Romans had lead. We have a long list of poisons doing us in. Look at the news reports of deaths. Seems like a lot of people dying young and when it's cancer, the type is often not specified. Years ago, news reports would include that information.

Ronald Kostoff

no-vac,

"don't expect him at this time to talk about vaccines.....The most important thing is to put him into WH, the rest would follow."

Well, actually, he has talked about vaccines, to Sharyl Atkisson (https://sharylattkisson.com/trump-on-vaccines-and-autism-pro-vaccine-but-cautious/). You might argue he has to take such a position in order not to antagonize the powers-that-be further, but one could also argue that's his real position. If he were to be elected, I believe his statements in this interview would be his position. The opposition in Congress and elsewhere would be too daunting a challenge to overcome.

The following article provides a good perspective on his chances of receiving the nomination, if you read between the lines (http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/6-ways-trump-may-lose-nomination-blowing-biggest-negotiation-his-life). I found the description of the process details extremely depressing. One could get the nomination if they received the majority of primary votes, or one could get the nomination without lifting a finger.

Ronald Kostoff

Linda1,

"tomato plants react to the damage from the relatively weak 900 MHz radiation from cell towers".

The radiation strength listed in the paper was five volts per meter, which converts to about 6600 microwatts per square meter. I wouldn't call that relatively weak. I was in a battle to oppose construction of a cell tower last year (we lost). I made some measurements of radiation from existing cell towers using a high quality RF meter. Fluxes anywhere from 2000 to 6000 microwatts per square meter were not uncommon, depending on call traffic and topography. If you go into the literature, chronic fluxes at that level increase the likelihood of cancer by factors of three or four. Those levels of fluxes could occur (depending on topography) within about four or five hundred meters of the antenna, although I measured fluxes of at least a couple thousand microwatts per square meter at distances up to seven hundred meters away from the antenna, with open topography.

However, these fields may in fact be small relative to what some children are exposed to in daily life. For example, the following article describes EMF radiation in schools with WiFi
(http://www.parentsforsafetechnology.org/wi-fi-radiation-levels-at-us-schools22222.html).
There are some classrooms where the radiation measured was on the order of hundreds of thousands of microwatts/m^2, or more!

In the EMF studies I've done, I really haven't focused on the impact of wireless radiation on plants. There are enough difficulties in identifying adverse impacts on humans and animals. But, plants may be of interest. What types of damage are actually done to different types of plants by RF and power frequency radiation, and how does this damage affect nutrition and health? Why would we believe the nutrition and health damage from EMFs would be any more publishable than the damage from vaccines?

Birgit Calhoun

Having read the book "Plague" I couldn't believe all the shenanigans, the owners of the Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease (WPI) were involved in. Even more disturbing was how Senator Harry Reed was involved in this. The book reads like a novel by Franz Kafka.

Ronald Kostoff

no-vac,

"don't expect him at this time to talk about vaccines.....The most important thing is to put him into WH, the rest would follow."

Well, actually, he has talked about vaccines, to Sharyl Atkisson (https://sharylattkisson.com/trump-on-vaccines-and-autism-pro-vaccine-but-cautious/). You might argue he has to take such a position in order not to antagonize the powers-that-be further, but one could also argue that's his real position. If he were to be elected, I believe his statements in this interview would be his position. The opposition in Congress and elsewhere would be too daunting a challenge to overcome.

The following article provides a good perspective on his chances of receiving the nomination, if you read between the lines (http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/6-ways-trump-may-lose-nomination-blowing-biggest-negotiation-his-life). I found the description of the process details extremely depressing. One could get the nomination if they received the majority of primary votes, or one could get the nomination without lifting a finger.

Linda1

Dr. Kostoff,

From the article you posted:

"French researchers, under the direction of Alain Vian at the Equipe de Recherche Transduction et Autosurveillance Cellulaire, Universite Blaise Pascal in Aubière, have shown that tomato plants react to the damage from the relatively weak 900 MHz radiation from cell towers. The scientists believe they found an environmental factor that instantly impacts the genetic material in the tomato cells, which in turn resulted in the tomato plant cells reacting with a chemical damage sequence, involving the molecule calmodulin. The effect was described as “exactly as if we had crushed them with a hammer,” by the scientists.”

Great. So that means that I can't even buy tomato plants from a store that is near a cell phone tower - even if they're organic! UGH!

(thanks for posting the article)

Betty Bona

Benedetta,
Yes, Judy Ms mouse virus! Lipkin is involved in covering the trails that show the involvement of the pharma industry there too. I heard him talk once where he advocated the flu shot during pregnancy to avoid the cytokine storm that comes with the flu. Of course he didn't mention that a cytokine storm can come with the flu shot as well. They'll market the Zika vaccine the same way. What a snake! How does he live with himself! I have two nieces who almost lost their babies after getting the flu shot while pregnant. They don't connect it, but I do.

Birgit Calhoun

ATSC! Interesting article. It's interesting that just aluminum can do that. What about the mercury in those shots at the same time. The synergism could possibly make MFF quite a bit worse. What's being described sounds like something that kids who develop autism are going through.

Benedetta

Betty;
It looks and acts, and smells to me like the Zika virus is invented as a scape goat for all the vaccine injuries about to show up - when you vaccinate pregnant women with the DPT.

Even widen its symptoms to include adults when they too get a vaccine reaction, such as well know reaction of becoming paralyzed from your feet and upward to the rest of the body. .

Hmmmmm, perhaps this is the way they are going to introduce Judy M's mouse virus, that came through the vaccines. After all they are going to have to treat it - or Colleen's kids or grandkids might catch it from their sexual partners.

Betty Bona

How does someone like Ian Lipkin look himself in the mirror? What will he say to his kids when it's time for vaccinations for his grandchildren? "All that research I did was fraudulent with the pre-ordained conclusion that vaccines, and especially the MMR, don't cause autism. Please don't vaccinate my grandchildren." He's a snake. Here he is on the Zika virus. He doesn't say we need a vaccine here, but that's the whole purpose of the New York Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/health/zika-may-increase-risk-of-mental-illness-researchers-say.html?_r=0

Ronald Kostoff

Interesting article about wireless communications radiation; note potential links to autism and other neuro-disorders.

https://takebackyourpower.net/experts-and-doctors-warn-pregnant-women-and-children-wireless/

Linda1

"Maybe if they eliminated all the toxic stimuli that contributed to these cancers, autoimmune diseases, allergies, and contributed to a weakened immune system that was unable to neutralize incoming bacteria and viruses, then perhaps they wouldn't need most of these myriad vaccines in the first place."

Yes, Dr. Kostoff, but then the toxic stimuli corporations would suffer. Can't have that. Bad for the economy. And bad for the rulers. Can't have a healthy population. Healthy people can think straight. Healthy people can not only figure out that they're being Pharmed, they have the strength to do something about it.

Like with medicines that are not discontinued when they don't work and/or cause terrible adverse effects, new ones are just added in an attempt to cover up the damage that have their own new effects. They heap more and more expensive toxins on the consumer, when what the consumer needs is to be relieved of the toxic burden.

We need to put an end to the Pharming.

ATSC

Eileen,

This is an interesting paper about a disease that mysteriously appeared in the 1990s, presumably when adults started getting vaccinated with Hep B and other aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines. (Obviously, babies and young children can't describe how they are feeling, nor can they respond to a dichotic hearing test):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748679

J Inorg Biochem. 2009 Nov;103(11):1571-8.


Long-term persistence of vaccine-derived aluminum hydroxide is associated with chronic cognitive dysfunction - Couette M

Macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) is an emerging condition, characterized by specific muscle lesions assessing long-term persistence of aluminum hydroxide within macrophages at the site of previous immunization. Affected patients mainly complain of arthromyalgias, chronic fatigue, and cognitive difficulties.

MMF patients had pronounced and specific cognitive impairment. MACD mainly affected (i) both visual and verbal memory; (ii) executive functions, including attention, working memory, and planning; and (iii) left ear extinction at dichotic listening test. Cognitive deficits did not correlate with pain, fatigue, depression, or disease duration. Pathophysiological mechanisms underlying MACD remain to be determined. In conclusion, long-term persistence of vaccine-derived aluminum hydroxide within the body assessed by MMF is associated with cognitive dysfunction, not solely due to chronic pain, fatigue and depression.
PMID: 19748679

Ronald Kostoff

FURTHER ON THE HUMAN VACCINES PROJECT

The initial major published article on this project appears to be in Science, entitled: Accelerating Next-Generation Vaccine Development for Global Disease Prevention. The authors (Wayne C. Koff1, Dennis R. Burton, Philip R. Johnson, Bruce D. Walker, Charles R. King, Gary J. Nabel, Rafi Ahmed, Maharaj K. Bhan, Stanley A. Plotkin), in their Table 1, identify about twenty-five 'major global infections prevented by vaccines', and in their Table 2, identify about twenty 'major global diseases for which vaccines do not currently exist'. One assumes the latter would be the focus of their vaccine development.

Table 2 ends with the listing of:

"Other: Allergies, Autoimmune diseases, Cancers*

*HBV and HPV vaccines are effective in preventing liver and cervical cancers, respectively."

So, not only will vaccines be developed to 'protect' against bacteria and viruses and other biotoxins, but now they will include allergies, autoimmune diseases, and cancers (and undoubtedly other chronic diseases as time marches on).

Two questions come to mind. Since one selling point of this project is accelerated development of vaccines, how do they shorten the time of human testing to show the 'protection' against these diseases, and how do they shorten the time of human testing to show that adverse effects are not overwhelming? Aren't the latter the real critical paths to determining a 'safe' vaccine? It seems to me that many decades would be required to show these vaccines are 'protective' and do not cause serious adverse effects later in life, or even across generations.

Secondly, let's illustrate with one example. Let's say one of the cancers against which they want to immunize is lung cancer. In neither of their cited papers do they discuss removing/eliminating any causes of these diseases. So, if someone is a chain smoker, drinks alcohol excessively, is exposed to high levels of non-ionizing radiation, has a purely junk-food diet, fills his home garden with biosludge and sprays with glyphosate, etc, all they need to do is take this 'magic bullet' anti-cancer vaccine, and - voila - they are protected for life! Maybe if they eliminated all the toxic stimuli that contributed to these cancers, autoimmune diseases, allergies, and contributed to a weakened immune system that was unable to neutralize incoming bacteria and viruses, then perhaps they wouldn't need most of these myriad vaccines in the first place.

Only in America!!!

Patience (Eileen Nicole) Simon

ATSC - Thanks for reaffirming the importance of brain research. I didn't click on your suggested links on aluminum yet, but in PubMed: "aluminum neurotoxicity" brings up 403 citations; "aluminum brainstem" brings up 163; "aluminum ototoxicity" brings up 11, and includes reports of Burows solution to treat ear infections.

This reminded me I discovered "bismuth encephalopathy" maybe a year or more ago in PubMed, which today brings up 257 citations.

DAN - Encephalopathy (or brain damage) is what needs to be looked for as the result of vaccination. The professional experts prefer to muddle around with statistics. I hope more parents of autistic children will begin to insist that patterns of brain damage (encephalopathies) become the focus of research.

PubMed provides several interesting modifiers for encephalopathy, including valproate (but not vaccine). There are 7160 citations for valproate, and though not suggested, keywords "encephalopathy vaccine" brings up 6645 citations this morning.

Research on live virus in the MMR and "subacute sclerosing pan encephalitis" (sspe) should be demanded.

no-vac

@ DANCHI,

Trump is attacked by mafia-party establishment from all sides, hence don't expect him at this time to talk about vaccines. He probably does not even know about Vaxxed. The most important thing is to put him into WH, the rest would follow. I trust him, his judgment and leadership more that anybody else. I don't believe he is misogynic, although he may not like some women (and he does not have to). He has always been on the side of less privileged and abused, including the women. The most important, he is on the side of American children, hence he is the only choice for many of us.

kapoore

The MMR makes some kids chronically ill. Some of the vaccine trials in places like Brazil point to the MMR leaving a trail of meningitis, ataxia, and chronic tonsillitis. That is about as close as you will ever get to a non-study of the long term. But if you happen to have a kid who seemed to descend into illness after the MMR then these Brazil MMR vaccine trials are part of the curriculum. My daughter "ONLY" had the MMR and she was four years old and she definitely regressed... but partially recovered once she had a diagnosis of celiac. But maybe the MMR triggered celiac.

Right now I would be happy to get rid of all the aluminum containing vaccines as they have been PROVEN to be neurotoxic. After we do that let's have a debate about the MMR. Clearly it doesn't provide herd immunity because in most kids immunity has waned by the time they are out of high school. I guess the MMR does an OK job of preventing measles in grade school, but at some point it is probably back to 50/50. When is that? Sometime in the middle of high school or even Junior High. And, of course, the boosters don't work since they only boost immunity for about 6 months... So I look at all these pro-vaccine spokesmen as liars or maybe they are deluded.

Anita Donnelly

Dammit Dan you so deserve the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism. When I read the schlock the NY Times put out on Vaxxed --recycled --then I read your well written, researched, thoughtful words...silent scream. Thank you. Again and again.

Mainstream media is pathetic

Meechaeil Krimer? Murdered a young girl. He was a young black man dx'd with autism, schizophrenia and depression. Hmm, heavy metals and brain damage a la #CDCwhistleblower.

Danchi

Benedetta:
Who else is running right now that even says that much?
And as you can see; saying you are for vaccine

Trumps stance on vaccine has never changed.
BRILLIANT TRUMP REVISES VACCINE SCHEDULE FOR HIS SON
By Kim Stagliano: http://www.ageofautism.com/2007/12/trump-did-not-f.html

Referring to his and his wife Melania's 22-month-old son Baron, Trump continued: "What we've done with Baron, we've taken him on a very slow process. He gets one shot at a time then we wait a few months and give him another shot, the old-fashioned way. But today they pump the children with so much at a very young age. We do it on a very, very conservative level.""

Trump vaccinated his son. He vaccinated all of his children and he was in a financially powerful place where CPS wouldn't be coming after him and I can't imagine his kids pediatrician throwing him out of their practice so he not only favors vaccines-he believes in them despite his statement or he wouldn't have vaccinated his children. Even after he made the statement "Vaccine cause Autism" he continued. He states he favors vaccines so I have no intention of getting behind that. ALL the candidates support vaccination. If the parents wanted to control the number of injections a child gets at a well child visit they can do that now so...just because Trump states vaccines cause autism that makes him jake? To what lengths are you willing go considering there is NO PLAN TO CHANGE ANYTHING THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE because he favors vaccines. Why are people so willing to accept that Trump has offered nothing except to say to you:

"Alter vaccination schedules to avoid autism: Trump says he favors vaccines, but giving children smaller doses over a longer period of time."

That's like saying: I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today

The thing is the children won't be vaccine free, but could grow up in the kind of world Trump envisions? Yes, the country is screwed up, can it get worse----oh yea.

I don't talk or comment in sound bites so I don't listen to sound bites, I started reading about Trump when he got into politics, not because of the Autism epidemic. No matter how much his people try and sanitize him, a leopard cannot change his spots.

There HAS to be a better way. It shouldn't be a trade off to get freedom of choice in exchange for a civilized nation that doesn't blindly hate entire races, females and people of other faiths. Here's one of Trumps endearing quotes on family:

-On Having More Children With Melania Trump
“Cause I like kids,” he told the radio host Howard Stern in 2005. “I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds and she’ll take care of the kids. It’s not like I’m gonna be walking the kids down Central Park.”
Donald Trump’s Trail of Comments About Women
http://www.nytimes(dot)com/2016/03/26/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0

The man won't even parent his kids-throws money at his multiple wives (one at a time) how can he be attentive enough to take care of a country.

His misogynism is legendary:
-18 Real Things Donald Trump Has Actually Said About Women:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_us_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

Trump doesn't parent his kids and basically states that outright and is misogynistic. Women-Moms are generally the primary caregivers of children and specifically children with vaccine injuries (don't fret guys I know some of you are super hands on dads and I mean that in the most loving and positive way). Trump's remarks about women goes back decades before politics and he's a hands off parent. Maybe it's me but I don't get the attraction.

If he believes that Vaccines cause Autism---why has he not publicly come out in support of Vaxxed? If he thinks vaccine cause autism which means he feels that the CDC has not told the truth about vaccines so where is the support for the film?

ATSC

"I have been a longtime critic of the MMR, and it comes from spending a lot of time talking to parents of kids who got the MMR (usually with some other live virus vaccine or mercury-containing shot), got sick and regressed"

Dan,

I don't think we should forget about aluminum which would have also been present in many other vaccines the children received prior to or concurrent with the MMR. Like thimerosal, aluminum was assumed to be safe and 'grandfathered in', and is considered by Paul Offit to be an essential metal and nutrient. But aluminum, just like mercury, is transported to other organs, deposited in the brain, and causes long-term inflammation.

There are many children who regressed and developed autism after vaccines containing mercury and aluminum, like Dr Hornig's son and mine. The more I read about aluminum, the more I suspect that it plays a significant role in the brain-damage we call autism.

Eileen asked why there was a spike in autism around 1990. I don't think it is a coincidence that Hepatitis B vaccine was added to the infant schedule in the late-1980s.

I'm sure that there are many of us who would like the focus to be on brain research instead of genetics and eye-gaze studies. We need to find out why children with regression show symptoms of deafness at the same time as they lose language. I would like to know if aluminum itself causes damage to the auditory pathway or if brain inflammation caused by aluminum attract viruses to this particular area of the brain to cause damage.

http://www.naturalnews.com/049621_Paul_Offit_aluminum_vaccines.html
Vaccine apologist Paul Offit earns 'F' in science for declaring aluminum a health-promoting nutrient for babies

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21568886
Aluminum vaccine adjuvants: are they safe?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235057
Mechanisms of aluminum adjuvant toxicity and autoimmunity in pediatric populations.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159
Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?

Danchi

Benedetta
I bet that Trump unlike DeNiro;

I bet he would. I hate to get going on the Donald again but my gut tells me the man is not what all anti-VAXes want to believe he is.

xojane.com
An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-Defector
Stephanie Cegielski

Ronald Kostoff

John Stone,

In your posting below, you mention the Human Vaccines Project. From an article in Nature Immunology, by Wayne C Koff, Ian D Gust & Stanley A Plotkin, a Human Vaccines Project has been proposed to 'overcome barriers to accelerate the development of vaccines against major global diseases in humans'. The authors recommend a 'comprehensive assessment of human immune responses to licensed and experimental vaccines in rapid, focused and iterative clinical research trials. Thus, the creation of an environment that facilitates such trials and implementing these trials with unprecedented speed and scale would be the main strategic initiative of the Human Vaccines Project.'

The authors make no mention (in the article) of whom the test subjects would be. That's not a small issue, since this project is human clinical trials-based. Would they be e.g. members of the House of Commons, the House of Lords, or the Cameron Administration? Or, would they be members of the US Senate, the House of Representatives, or the Obama Administration? Or, would they be, in Franz Fanon's words, the Wretched of the Earth, who tend to be the test recipients of the most experimental of the drugs, vaccines, and therapies?

The authors also don't mention the full scope of diseases they are targeting, but rather give a few well-known examples. In my eBook, I identified ~4000 diseases for the cause-impact analysis, and have no doubt that I missed many others. Would the eventual goal be vaccines for each of these 4000 diseases? For each, or at least many, of the ~320,000 viruses that affect mammals, and many of which could be zoonotic (transferable to humans)?

At the end of the article, the authors declare no competing financial interests. I'll leave that statement to the interested reader for comment!

Linda1

Birgit,
I have heard of it. Sounds like something out of a horror movie.

Birgit Calhoun

Here is more on Fort Detrick:
A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA’s Secret Cold War Experiments by H. P. Albarelli. The story has to do with LSD and what really happened to Frank Olsen who supposedly voluntarily through himself out of the 11th story window of the Statler Hotel in New York in the 1960s.

Science is pure.  People are corrupt.

With respect to biological warfare agents, it is known that the letters contaminated with anthrax that were sent in late 2001 contained a strain unique to Ft. Detrick where the research into anthrax vaccine was conducted.

Who sent them and why has never been determined due to the apparent suicide of the chief suspect before the case could be brought to trial; the story does not however inspire faith that research into vaccines against biological warfare agents makes the public at large safer.

PANDAS Mom

It's so interesting when you start connecting the dots. On the Mailman school of Public Health website, there's an April 4 announcement about Lipkin's WSJ op-ed stating "Lipkin and Mailman School Board of Overseers member Perri Peltz (MPH '84) worked diligently behind the scenes to persuade organizers of the TriBeCa Film Festival that the fraudulent science of Andrew Wakefield's "Vaxxed" had no place at the prestigious festival."

Then if you hop over to the list of members of the Board of Overseers, you don't find Perri Peltz listed, but if you go into the member profiles, voila! - there she is. Turns out she's a documentary film maker whose latest film is Remembering the Artist: Robert DeNiro, Sr.

Perri Peltz serves on the Board of Overseers with a nauseating number of investment banker types, but also a number of folks involved in "healthcare" businesses and organizations. These include Dr Naveen Rao, who "has held numerous leadership positions at Merck" and currently leads "Merck for Mothers, Merck's 10-year initiative to reduce maternal mortality around the world;" Mary Lake Polan who served on the board of Wyeth and currently serves on the boards of several privately held "life sciences companies;" and Linda Tharby, president of Life Sciences at Beckton, Dickinson & Co, a global medical technology firm that services healthcare institutions, the pharmaceutical industry, etc, along with a few other folks with interesting ties.

Barry

Clearly there can be more than 1 core injuring pathogen but in a large measure the main culprit will be the MMR and that is why they fight so hard to defend it.

***********

Bingo.

There is no such thing as a safe or effective vaccine. But some have definitely shown themselves to be more injurious than the others.

Benedetta

Danchi;
I bet that Trump unlike DeNiro; Lipkin would not be bragging about a 45 minute - conversation he had had.

Just a feeling.

Benedetta

Danchi;

Who else is running right now that even says that much?
And as you can see; saying you are for vaccine, but -- is enough to get the Listsev primed and loaded in your direction. For that is going against the CDC; and there is no tolerance for any - small amount of disagreement as far as the CDC is concerned.

Birgit Calhoun

Linda1! Have you ever heard of Plum Island. The media didn't cover the disaster that happened there. To fill you in, there is a laboratory on that island near New York ecept you can't go there for recreation because it's off-limits.

Danchi

Willie
The person who made that statement gave an interviews to Scientific American where he stated this:
The Science of President Trump

"Alter vaccination schedules to avoid autism: Trump says he favors vaccines, but giving children smaller doses over a longer period of time. He has blamed vaccines for causing autism in children."

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-science-of-president-trump/

There are no studies that altering the schedule will have any impact of the development of Autism.

Trump says "he favors vaccines"

Willie

VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM

Maureen ,

My quote comes from the what the literature repeatedly shows, and typically it is about 3 when they are diagnosed. This does not lessen the injury to your grandson in any way shape or form.

There are more vaccines added now than 2005 and the HEP B vaccine can be devastating to children as well.

What many people fail to consider are factors that no one outside of the medical field seems to consider. For example how many times have you read that the Pediatrician or his/her staff gave numerous vaccines at once? That means that they did not follow their own schedule and just dumped the viruses into the child. Unless you look at what the EOB and HICFA submitted by the doctor says you really do not know what was given and when it was given.

I hate to tell you this but the class of physicians that we call pediatricians are nothing more than the legal definition of distributors for vaccines and the distribution is not based on science but money fueled by greed and stupidity with the latter being more dominant.

There are mitigating factors as well.

Many children are not breast fed now despite studies showing that it is essential and there is a study that reveals that breast fed children have less autism and less severe autism than non breast fed children.

This clearly fits in with the viral pathogenesis theory and is linear logically.

Children when born are immune compromised by definition as they do not have the capacity yet to fully mount an immune response to a viral pathogen. They get their immunity in a large part from the mother and the IgG and only a part of the IgG is able to pass.

Maternal antibodies transported across the placenta protect the newborn. Maternal immunoglobulin G (IgG) concentrations in fetal blood increase from early in the second trimester through term, most antibodies being acquired during the third trimester. IgG1 is the most efficiently transported subclass and IgG2 the least. Transfer across the syncytiotrophoblast of the chorionic villi is mediated by the neonatal Fc receptor, FcRn. Immune complexes are absorbed in the stroma of the villi, probably by FcgammaRI, FcgammaRII, and FcgammaRIII on placental macrophages. The mechanism of IgG transport across the endothelium of fetal capillaries is not understood. Endothelial cells in terminal villi express FcgammaRIIb. However, it is not known whether this receptor transports IgG or prevents transport of immune complexes to the fetus.

The other immunoglobulins IgA, IgE, and IgM are all too large to pass.The remaining are transferred in the breast milk to the newborn.

Thus to give the newborn a pathogen, in a loading dose meant for an adult, that the child should not even be exposed to on purpose under the guise of creating a life long immunity is patently absurd.

This course of action reflects the initial lack of understanding of the immune system by the researchers and underscores why there has to be concomitant INDPENDENT clinical studies and research and not just the pharmacy drug dealer mentality of creating a vaccine in the lab somewhere, ghost writing and falsifying data using some criminal like Poul Thorsen and then using their substantial economic and political resources to foist it on the public and cram it down the throats of the American people.

When I was growing up there was no such thing as the terrible 2's this came about in my mind after the children received their 18 month MMR vaccine and began acting out during injury secondary to pain and injury from the MMR. I know my child went through that and it was terrible.

Clearly there can be more than 1 core injuring pathogen but in a large measure the main culprit will be the MMR and that is why they fight so hard to defend it.

MMR is the key pathogen and it will be eventually revealed that it is a factor in a lot of illness and not just in babies either.

This is all done in the name of science- a science that is not and cannot be proven because they will not do the studies because they do not want to prove themselves wrong, and why would they ? They are making to much money and with no liability and under the umbrella of the 1984 or 86 vaccine protection act.

Could you imagine the fallout and on so many levels? The Pharmaceutical companies can, they have lots of attorneys telling then to deny, deny, deny and that is why they do not do the studies. Further if it ever comes out they will simply blame the doctors we call pediatricians.

They will aver that they simply made the vaccine and it was up to the individual doctors and their perspective academic institutions and medical institutions to investigate the efficacy on a large scale.

The entire system is corrupt and feculent and has to be torn down. Our current political leaders just cannot do it.


It will require some one who does not need the pharmacy money, who is brazen and craves attention and acceptance with a crazy hairdo, a big mouth and bigger balls to pull back the covers and expose the pharmaceutical criminals for what they are - criminals. The pharmaceutical companies will spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying to derail this and it may or may not work.

I have the mouth and the balls but I am bald and I do not have any money so it is not me.


We have to find this person whoever he is and I know that person must exist somewhere I just wonder who we could find?

VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM

Ronald Kostoff

John Stone,

"This stuff is very sinister. I was looking into what this meant but hadn't got as far as you had. All that money, power and aggression and the result is brute stupidity, or as Orwell put it in 1984: “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.”"

It gets even better. Consider the nature of classic biowarfare. Toxic agents are 1) developed and manufactured, and then 2) transmitted to some target population. The 'operators', or 'bioterrorists', are interested mainly in the adverse impacts of the toxic agents on that target population. The manufacturers are interested mainly in the profit from the logistics/sales of the toxic agents.

Operationally, the goal of bioterrorism (as understood today) is to transmit these toxic agents surreptitiously to maximize the time until the agents and their impacts have been discovered. The longer the wait, the more difficult it is to ameliorate the effects, and the greater the damage. Concealing such effects is a complex and arduous process.

However, in the USA (and other countries), we have a new definition/type of bioterrorism. These re-defined bioterrorists are not foreign adversaries, but rather are domestic. They instill and exploit fear/terror of (mainly childhood, but increasingly adulthood) infectious diseases. Their ransom is of a different nature from that of the foreign bioterrorists; it comes openly through the profit mechanism. These re-defined domestic bioterrorists distribute infectious and other biotoxic agents (e.g., live, attenuated vaccines, inactivated vaccines, subunit vaccines, toxoid vaccines, conjugate vaccines, DNA vaccines, recombinant vector vaccines) not surreptitiously, but out in the open. They conceal the potential harm from these biotoxic agents, and focus on the 'benefits' of infectious disease symptom suppression. But, the final outcomes are the same: biotoxic agents have been distributed, and damage has been done to the target population. As stated above, the re-defined domestic bioterrorists have different motivations from the foreign bioterrorists. The re-defined domestic bioterrorists are interested in the profit component (and the adverse impacts represent collateral damage), while the foreign bioterrorists are interested in the adverse impact component.

The 'brilliance' of the re-defined domestic bioterrorists is that they not only conduct their business out in the open, but they have been able to 'condition' the public to such an extent that the public becomes their main accomplice. Through the public's support of mandates and the rapid increase in the vaccination schedule, the public has effectively taken new steps to accelerate collective health degradation. We are like the residents of Jonestown who have drunk the Kool-aid! And, there's a 'snowball' effect. The more vaccines the gullible public accepts, the more vaccines they are assured of receiving in the future. As I pointed out in my previous post, there could be many THOUSANDS of potential biotoxic agents against which the public could be persuaded to vaccinate.

There is one 'fly in the ointment'. Seventy-eighty years ago, when there were very few vaccines given, and they were given independently, their adverse impacts (at least short-term) were very rare, and not noticeable. Out of hundreds of my classmates, for example, I never knew anyone that had an adverse reaction, other than perhaps a sore arm for a few hours. Since that time, we have 1) added a number of toxic enablers in the environment, such as RF radiation, glyphosate, etc, and have 2) combined myriad vaccines and drastically increased the numbers. These added toxic stimuli have enabled the adverse effects of vaccines to become much more noticeable. Now, there are a few attempts to surface this problem, such as the movie Vaxxed, and we are seeing the re-defined domestic bioterrorists going all-out to suppress these efforts.

If these efforts to surface the potential/alleged damage fail, I foresee a future where the numbers of vaccines against potential natural or bioterror-driven biotoxic agents will increase by one or two orders of magnitude. And, we, the obedient and gullible public, will be leading the charge. Mission Accomplished!

Joy B

Shots given during pregnancy(huge uptick in this recommendation) and Hep B at birth serve to muddy the waters about regressive autism(by design imo). It's clear that at some point, some persons made the active decision to muddy these waters, by poisoning our children shortly after they take their first breath, and more recently, in utero!

Regressive autism is perhaps the biggest bugbear to the entire scam. It just stands out too much. It's the reason why places like AoA exist. Hence the "eye gaze" studies to "prove" that regressive autism is yet another "debunked" myth.

Hopefully your grifting was worth it Dr Ian Mengele, but don't expect to be bustled off to some distant tropical hideout when the shtf, this time.

Linda1

John,

Re the Mesa Consortium and the Human Vaccines Project (Lord help us), is it that they are descending on India or is it that our medias aren't reporting this to us?

John Stone

Maurine

There is talk of reliably diagnosing autism at 6 months, and no wonder if you see what they've had by that age.

Maurine Meleck

Wille, I believe there are too many kids diagnosed with autism that never had the MMR.My second grandson, for example. He was diagnosed at 15 months, but we stopped vaccinating him at 5 months of age.I think in many cases it may be the MMR that puts them over the top after having had so many other vaccines before that.

Patience (Eileen Nicole) Simon

The brain should be the primary focus of all research on autism. If the experts don't want to consider how the brain is affected, parents should.

What underlies language disorder??? Apraxia means Broca's area is affected. Speaking in phrase fragments (echolalia) means word and syllable boundaries are not heard, that signal processing in the auditory system or temporal lobes is disrupted.

Mercury and lead damage relay centers in the auditory pathway, as do alcohol, opiates, valproic acid, and other poisons like methyl bromide (an herbicide).

Encephalitis, like rubella or measles slow (subacute) infections begin in brainstem structures. Autonomic control centers are (like the auditory system) constantly active, even during sleep. Autonomic control centers (though much smaller and less visible than auditory relay stations) must be vulnerable to substances and infections; heart-rate, breathing, and (less-lethal) peristalsis of the GI tract will be affected.

No more epidemiology with skewed and omitted data is needed. We need to know how the brain is affected in autism.

John Stone

Ronald

This stuff is very sinister. I was looking into what this meant but hadn't got as far as you had. All that money, power and aggression and the result is brute stupidity, or as Orwell put it in 1984: “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.”

Here's an exciting project:

"New Delhi, Apr.8 (ANI): Four scientific institutions - University of California, San Diego, J. Craig Venter Institute, La Jolla Institute for Allergy and Immunology and The Scripps Research Institute - have teamed up to create the "Mesa Consortium," a new scientific hub for the Human Vaccines Project.

"Under a collaborative agreement, the Mesa Consortium and the Human Vaccine Project aim to transform current understanding of the human immune system and expedite development of vaccines and biologics to prevent and treat many global diseases..."

http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/242952017/human-vaccines-project-launches-san-diego-research-hub-with-four-scientific-institutions

Why all these people from San Diego are suddenly descending on Delhi is a sinister question in itself. Could it be that that Indian government are selling its people for experimentation?

Willie

VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM

"Is the MMR alone behind the autism epidemic? No, it is not. There has never been an autism epidemic -- pick your country -- that can be traced to the MMR"

To be brief Dan, you are wrong.

The MMR vaccine is squarely behind the Autism epidemic for obvious reasons.

The children typically present after their MMR vaccine at 18 months and get diagnosed formally at 3 years of age.

The reason that they do not have a study to prove it is because all of the studies are designed not to prove it !!

They do not want a study to prove so they design around it and scream that vaccines are innocent and the people like me are guilty of sedition and then they scream just as loudly-

THIS MAN DOES NOT WANT US TO VACCINATE YOUR KIDS WITH THESE VACCINES !!!! STONE HIM !!!STONE HIM!!!!

The Gold standard for any study in science is the double blind prospective randomized trial - They do not have one of those and never will and especially not here in the USA.

Silly Rabbit Tricks are For Kids!!! AND


VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM

Rae

I've said it before and I'll say it again: when you see the words "Center of Excellence" run for your life.

Birgit Calhoun

Why is it that Dr. Ian reminds me of the book "Lab 257." Scary thing!

Birgit Calhoun

This is not at all over the top. It explains a few things, though.

How is it that not finding something means for something not being there? If collaborators are willing, there is always a potential of not finding. With toxins it's even easier because ostensibly physicians avoid toxins. That has to do with "malice afore-thought" If you don't know about a poison you can't be accused of poisoning someone. That's an old bit of wisdom I learned from Alfred Stock. Most physician know next to nothing about mercury poisoning and its mechanism. My take is, if a child is already immuno-compromised, he should not be given a vaccine. But something tells me that only very few children are first tested to see if they are in that category. Shame on them!

Patience (Eileen Nicole) Simon

Dan, Subacute Sclerosing Pan Encephalitis (SSPE) appears to be associated with the measles virus affecting the brain. Put sspe in PubMed.

See: Thomas M et al. Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis with bilateral inferior collicular hyperintensity on magnetic resonance imaging brain. Ann Indian Acad Neurol. 2012 Oct;15(4):329-31. Free online via PubMed.

Note involvement of the inferior colliculi (which are also damaged by mercury, lead, poisonous pesticides, herbicides, etc., and asphyxia at birth). This is the most metabolically active site in the brain, which I continually try to point out. GI problems are serious in all brain disorders, including alcoholism and opiate addiction.

The brain should be the focus of research on all causes of autism. I will continue to try to point this out, but I remain only a small voice in the wilderness...

Tim Lundeen

@Nonnymouse re "Here's one vote for Does Not Know"...

My vote is for "Knows all too well". The studies he has done are too well designed for him not to get it.

Ronald Kostoff

John Stone,

Your comment includes: "Northeast Biodefense Center-Lipkin".

As shown in (http://njms.rutgers.edu/research/rbl/nbc.cfm), the Northeast Biodefense Center is "Region II NIH Regional Center of Excellence in Biodefense and Emerging Infectious Diseases; Principal Investigator: Dr. W. Ian Lipkin, Columbia University; Mission Statement: To support and implement the biodefense research agenda of the NIAID by:
•Pursuing multifaceted research and development activities
•Building programs for training researchers and other personnel for biodefense research careers
•Establishing core facilities to sustain the research and training activities ".

A more detailed description can be found here (http://grantome.com/grant/NIH/U54-AI057158-03). The scope appears to include diseases from naturally transmitted viruses/bacteria and biowarfare agents.

It is not clear whether they are actually developing vaccines in-house, but they appear at least to be heavily involved in vaccine-related research (and perhaps beyond research).

Now, what is the potential market for biowarfare agent and other viral/bacterial vaccines? There are three general classes of biowarfare agents: bacteria, viruses, toxins (http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/30/6/843.full). Let's focus on viruses. As I stated in a previous post: "It has been estimated that there are at least 320,000 viruses that infect mammals (http://mbio.asm.org/content/4/5/e00598-13), with the potential of being transmitted from animals to humans (zoonoses, like the SARS pandemic)."

Now, not all of these can be used as biowarfare agents; certain properties are required, such as transmissibility and pathogenicity (see appended Abstract of an unclassified project I sponsored on this topic at the turn of the century). The problem is that we have not characterized these properties for most of the 320,000 viruses mentioned above, and therefore we don't know how many could be used as potential biowarfare agents. Additionally, we don't know how many viruses are serious threats from natural transmission. The paper abstracted in the appendix identified about thirty actual/potential biowarfare agents, and the CDC/USDA identifies about a hundred (https://extranet.fhcrc.org/EN/sections/ehs/hamm/chap5/section10.html).

To 'protect' against diseases from these agents, vaccines are being developed either for post-exposure or for pre-exposure administration. It takes years to develop and test a vaccine and months to manufacture, and, whether for pre-or post-exposure administration, would require large amounts of vaccine to be available in case of a pandemic, however caused. In other words, large amounts of each vaccine would have to be stockpiled even for post-exposure administration, since the window for 'effectiveness' closes rapidly.

So, we are talking about a vaccine market of unimaginable proportions! Anyone involved in an organization such as Northeast Biodefense Center would of necessity be a die-hard supporter of vaccines, and would do whatever possible to silence any exposure of potential problems with vaccines. It seems to me we are in the initial phases of a 'conditioning' program to accept the validity of vaccines, with childhood vaccinations. The more we are led to believe vaccines are necessary and beneficial, with minimal harm, the more vaccines we will receive. It is no different from our being 'conditioned' to accept myriad wireless devices.

With each additional vaccine, our resistance to acceptance decreases. Given the potential viral threats, we could probably be persuaded to take THOUSANDS of vaccines for pre-exposure 'protection', or stockpile THOUSANDS of vaccines for post-exposure amelioration. So, statements in the Press about ten thousand vaccines being possible to administer, while being made to sound ludicrous, may in fact portend what we have in store for the future. I suspect that's the real game: once our 'conditioning' is complete, then the vaccine spigot can be fully opened, and we will be immunized against every virus that poses any sort of realistic threat. And, someone will make a ton of money!

APPENDIX
TITLE- Information discovery from complementary literatures: Categorizing viruses as potential weapons

ABSTRACT
Using novel informatics techniques to process the output of Medline searches, we have generated a list of viruses that may have the potential for development as weapons. Our findings are intended as a guide to the virus literature to support further studies that might then lead to appropriate defense and public health measures. This article stresses methods that are more generally relevant to information science. Initial Medline searches identified two kinds of virus literatures-the first concerning the genetic aspects of virulence, and the second concerning the transmission of viral diseases. Both literatures taken together are of central importance in identifying research relevant to the development of biological weapons. Yet, the two literatures had very few articles in common. We downloaded the Medline records for each of the two literatures and used a computer to extract all virus terms common to both. The fact that the resulting virus list includes most of an earlier independently published list of viruses considered by military experts to have the highest threat as potential biological weapons served as a test of the method; the test outcome showed a high degree of statistical significance, thus supporting an inference that the new viruses on the list share certain important characteristics with viruses of known biological warfare interest.

go Trump

They can use “endless epidemiology” to try to “prove or disprove” about anything.

Some PhD's get millions to prove that people who eat eight doughnuts a day are just as healthy as those who eat six, ... which of course means that doughnuts are great for public health.

Pharma is still hoping for nearly 2 billion to get a Zika vaccine to market in the USA. In only a few days of study, they figured out that Zika was the cause of just about everything.

After 20+ years, one might think that someone at the CDC would say.... “Oh shit, ...vaccine strain measles virus in the GI tract...of Autistic children,
I wonder what the hell damage that could be doing after 12 months of diarrhea for a 3 year old.... bent over in pain all the time ?#!??”

but hell no... they try to prove that the MMR vaccine was not causing the GI problem often enough to be of concern.

Nonnymouse

December 2015 -- blog entry says, "Ian Lipkin flew to Lake Tahoe to fundraise for work he’s doing with the Simmaron Rsch Foundation --simmaronresearch.com/tag/lipkin/#sthash.2EHHb69E.dpuf"

So. Lipkin is paid by Columbia University, where he works. He gets money from NIH grants. He gets money from Simmaron Research for "collaborating." ? And where else is he getting funding, either personal or work-related.

I'm getting really tired of these double-and-triple-dipping so-called experts who say, year after year "We need more money." As if the billions of dollars already spent wouldn't have been enough, if only their brainpower and ability to connect dots were adequate to the task.

Lipkin is quite certain MMR is not any part of the problem? He is equally certain that CFS is not some kind of virus-related problem.

But he's wrong. Not a little bit wrong; completely wrong.

He believes himself to be an expert in viruses? But there is something that he either does not know, or is deliberately ignoring. Here's one vote for Does Not Know.

Benedetta

What would I do with out Dan Olmstead and John Stone - and Carol. - and so many other very intelligent and studious people.

Sun~Rose

To Nonnymouse: they're all immune system problems.

Nonnymouse

Additional less formal source of information about Lipkin:

http://www.cortjohnson.org/?s=lipkin

There are quite a few blog entries which mention him; need to do a look-back using a search engine.

It seems as though chronic fatigue syndrome, and fibromyalgia, and multiple sclerosis -- and autism and Alzheimer's -- are all some kind of overlapping problems. Depending on the age, and previous health, different symptoms occur.

Jeannette Bishop

So, Lipkin, for all he knew might even be name-dropped in the documentary (assuming he has looked into what is out there from Thompson--which most "scientists" don't seem bothered to do, so I'm really internally thinking he probably just found "encouraging" a no-show of this film as a career boosting opportunity)?

Tim Lundeen

W Ian Lipman is a scientific hit-man for pharma. When some study suggests a link between vaccines and chronic illness, he runs a study to "disprove" the link.

How? By carefully choosing the cases so as to swamp any association. Cases showing a link are a small percentage of the study, so no association is found.

As John Stone points out, this was done in the MMR study ( http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0003140 ). But it had only 5 children in it that met Wakefield's criteria. It did validate Wakefield's laboratory results, because they used his laboratory in parallel with others, and his lab got the same results as the others. For more, see http://vaccineawakening.blogspot.com/2008/09/study-fails-to-clear-mmrautism-link.html

Judy Mikovits research, as detailed in her/Heckenlively's book Plague, received the same treatment. Her research suggested that retrovirus contamination of vaccines could cause chronic fatigue syndrome. So Lipman ran a study to discredit Mikovit's research. As with the MMR study, the retrovirus study could not have found any association, because of the way they selected test cases. Mikovits didn't know why the study was even being done, but obviously it was to discredit any link between vaccine-source retrovirus contamination and chronic fatigue.

It is sickening, as we and our kids continue to be seriously injured.

John Stone

Dan

Yes, the things which stare you in the face...

Dan Olmsted

john, interesting that sometimes the most damning information is hidden in plain sight. i continually reread certain documents -- especially kanner and asperger -- and i am glad you do too.

To Avril -- from Teresa Conrick

Hi Avril,

I am curious as well and very happy of the great progress your son has made! I am wondering if you could share the exact type/names of the immune system drugs you mention? If you prefer, you can email me privately- tconrick@gmail.com

John Stone

I just noticed that first statement in the abstract was false:

"The presence of measles virus (MV) RNA in bowel tissue from children with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) and gastrointestinal (GI) disturbances was reported in 1998."

But the Uhlmann paper - which the Hornig/Lipkin paper actually confirms - was published in 2002. The mention of 1998 was implicitly prejudicial alluding to the publication of the Wakefield paper which caused the controversy - and the GMC hearing was going on at the time. The reference to 1998 was actively misleading. This was not a paper, or should not have been a paper, about 1998. It is wellknown that the publication of the Hornig paper was held over for several years, every line must have been carefully cogitated and it was released only after the Omnibus hearing. About the funding we read:

"Funding: This work was supported by CDC grant U50 CCU522351 to AAP and by National Institutes of Health awards AI57158 (Northeast Biodefense Center-Lipkin), HL083850, and NS47537. Role of Study Sponsors: Members of the funding organization (AAP) and its sponsor (CDC) participated along with experts in virology and neurovirology, autism pathogenesis, and vaccine design and safety; representatives of the autism advocacy community; and study collaborators in an Oversight Committee that reviewed and agreed to all aspects of study design prior to data collection. The final decision to submit for publication was the responsibility of all study collaborators."

And then we come back to the fact that very first sentence of the paper is a manifest piece of deceit.

Teresa Conrick

Hi Dan,

I couldn't agree more to what you have written here! There are minions doing odd jobs to keep the truth hidden. Some of them think they are quite important. Exposing them is more important. Here is an excellent snippet on that Thompson comment from our own John Stone:

http://www.ageofautism.com/2015/08/cdc-science-mmr-fraud-the-thompsonhooker-conversations-published.html

"Thompson is very much a man at the end of his tether: he’s seen too much corruption for too long. He warns not only about MMR, he warns about tics (thimerosal vaccines are associated strongly with tics and tics are four times more common in autistic people). He himself is a co-author of a paper on tics which the CDC was only partially successful in watering down (despite strenuous attempts) , and which was corroborated by the Tozzi paper. He is scathing not only about Verstraeten and about Thorsen and his alleged girl-friend Diane Schendel who decamped from the CDC on full pension to work at Aarhus University after Thorsen was indicted, but also about another couple, Ian Lipkin and Mady Hornig, whose measles RNA/MMR/ autism study was absurdly small and absurdly delayed. He is scathing about the Price study, of which he is co-author. The whole thing is sickening. It was long over time to blow the whistle."

Lipkin gives lip service

Lipkin did a similar dance with XMRV, adding Wakefield in with his comments to give himself even more brownie points.

http://www.nature.com/news/the-scientist-who-put-the-nail-in-xmrv-s-coffin-1.11444

Maurine Meleck

So glad to hear someone else mention De Niro's last interviews. I actually thought he was pre-verbal. Some of us always need a script to shine.

Dan Olmsted

carol, i read the transcripts but i forgot all about that. i feel even less deliberately provocative now!

Madeleine Boisvert

I believe both Lipkin and Hornig are mentioned in the Whistleblower transcripts, but I lent my copy out...

Carol

I can see that Lipkin would want, at the very least, to get back at Thompson for the way that Thompson talks about him with Dr. Hooker. (Hooker's responses, consisting mostly of uh-huhs and hm's, excised for readability along with some comments of a personal nature)


Thompson: "....Ian Lipkin is one of those...Well, I'll give you an example. When I was trying to hold them accountable...It was funded by the CDC. I don't know if you know that. It was funded by the CDC, the money was sent to the NIH. It was the worst mismanaged event of federal funds I've ever seen, um...In terms of how that study was carried out. If you looked at the original study design and the fact that they only ended up with twenty-five autism cases. It's just insane. So, I took over as project officer in the middle of that. And I kept trying to hold people accountable for what they were doing with the money and, um, the project officer on their end eventually dropped off the study; she was so fed up and tired with it.

In the middle, in the middle of the study, Ian Lipkin was asking for more money and he actually, and I, I don't think I kept the email but it's one email I wish I had kept was where he said he was going to talk to his Congressman if we didn't uh, if we didn't give him more money....And then the first author, Mady Hornig, I think she's the first author on it. I'm not sure. So, anyway, Mady Hornig, who was doing animal studies...So anyway. That was criminal because they published that study with twenty-five autism cases and the power was like zero and they tried to give the impression they did a study of, you know [unintelligible]. It was the worst study ever."

Avril Dannenbaum

Dear Dan,
You touch on something which has been on my mind a lot as of late. DS regressed at 18 months including developing horrific bowel movements. He lost eye contact and language. At the age of 3 he was started on the DAN protocol. DS was a secretin responder. Got back eye contact and regained language within 24 hours. But still had awful bowel movements and allergy induced ADD. He was scoped at 5 and lympho-nodular hyperplasia was found. It took six years of Asacol for it to go into remission. We did drugs to help his immune system and eventually he was neurotypical, although partial to bad moods when his seasonal allergies flare. He's 19 now and in college. He's doing well and our family could put it into the past. I keep wondering what made the difference. Breast feeding, the fact that he was born in a free standing birth center so we didn't do the vaccines on his first day. What was it?

Patience (Eileen Nicole) Simon

What are the pre-existing vulnerabilities? Why the spike in autism around 1990?

I will continue to point out a medical error that is not easy to recognize: Termination of placental circulation immediately after birth.

Placental circulation continues until two fetal heart valves close. Blood flow to the lungs cannot be forced by clamping the umbilical cord. Traditional teaching was to wait for pulsations of the cord to cease before tying it. In the mid 1980s textbooks of obstetrics began to promote immediate clamping of the cord. This has become the "tradition" of the past 30 years.

In April 2000 (16 yeas ago) I posted a website in memory of my son Conrad, and described the tense moments of his resuscitation. I soon received many email messages asking how soon after birth his umbilical cord had been clamped.

Conrad's problems with language development were clearly explained by the article on asphyxia at birth in the October 1969 Scientific American. Prominent damage within the brainstem auditory pathway was found. Then I found many papers reporting higher blood-flow and metabolism in the auditory system than anywhere else in the brain.

More recently I found the auditory system is damaged by mercury, lead, and many toxic substances.

Since the mid 1980s the umbilical cord has been clamped immediately after birth. The Neonatal Resuscitation Manual reports that 85 to 90 percent breathe immediately after birth, and that 10 to 15 percent require assistance to begin breathing.

A brief lapse in transfer of respiration from placenta to lungs provides vulnerability to vaccine components. I will continue to try to explain further...

Bob Moffit

""I am among those Mr. De Niro consulted. In a 45-minute conversation with him, I recommended that the festival withdraw the film from the 'documentary' category and not screen it."

There is quite a difference between "consulting" with Robert DeNiro .. and .. "bullying" him. Consider ..

As someone who has enjoyed a shamefully lucrative career .. which has amounted to nothing more "productive" than .. at every opportunity .. seeking personal self-aggrandizement .. by denigrating tens of thousands of parents .. who have all witnessed and experienced the same phenomena of a perfectly healthy toddler "regressing" soon after vaccinations .. eagerly and often .. calling those parents .. "lunatics".

This man is a prime example of everything that represents the very same "junk science" that protected the powerful tobacco industry for decades.

In my humble opinion .. this individual not only confuses the difference between "consulting" and "bullying" .. he also confuses the gold standard of "sound science" .. with his own standard .. "sounds like science".

Angus Files

Or as Dr Judy put`s it "associated with autism" as in a clinical dialogue..Lipkin take time and learn to Dr Judy.

Interview with Dr. Judy Mikovits, PhD, 11/22/15

https://vimeo.com/146831570

MMR RIP

John Stone

"Our results differ with reports noting MV RNA in ileal biopsies of 75% of ASD vs. 6% of control children [10], [41]. Discrepancies are unlikely to represent differences in experimental technique because similar primer and probe sequences, cycling conditions and instruments were employed in this and earlier reports; furthermore, one of the three laboratories participating in this study performed the assays described in earlier reports. Other factors to consider include differences in patient age, sex, origin (Europe vs. North America), GI disease, recency of MMR vaccine administration at time of biopsy, and methods for confirming neuropsychiatric status in cases and controls."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2526159/

In fact they found instances of persistent measles virus in one autistic case and one non-autistic control - so as with Uhlmann paper the condition was not exclusive to autism cases, but nevertheless all cases had GI disease and had received MMR. As they say the reason why this was less marked than in the Uhlmann study was likely that their cases were differently selected (and btw very few in number). Obviously the picture is more complex than contemplated in 1996. Also, critical parts of case history seem to be omitted in the Hornig study.

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