The Pro-Vax Injury Misogyny Campaign Meets Robert De Niro
From the UK's DailyMail - rather a shocker! But a delight to read. It's a lot more difficult to disparage and embarrass and discount Robert DeNiro than a beautiful blonde female. He throws a real monkeywrench into the misogynistic media plan. KS
Why De Niro is backing the MMR doctor hounded out of Britain: Actor believes triple jab risks are being covered up by pharmaceutical giants after his son 'developed autism overnight' when he had vaccination
- Robert De Niro's 18-year-old son Elliot suffers from autism disorder
- His Tribeca Film Festival in New York provoked controversy by featuring a new 'anti-vaccination' documentary called Vaxxed
- Film star revealed that he and his wife believe their son developed autism overnight after receiving an unidentified vaccination jab
- British doctor Andrew Wakefield claimed he had found evidence the MMR triple vaccine caused irritable bowel syndrome and autism in children
Robert De Niro is widely reckoned to be the world's trickiest celebrity to interview. He will sit looking morose and mumble monosyllabic answers. Any question about his private life will be met with the sort of thinly veiled menace he provides so perfectly in his film roles.
But there is one subject, as painfully private and sensitive as one can imagine, on which he has been more than happy to talk in recent days — about how his 18-year-old son, Elliot, suffers from autism.
Although the 72-year-old has previously hinted about raising a son with special needs with his wife, Grace Hightower, it wasn't until recently that he opened up, after his Tribeca Film Festival in New York provoked controversy by featuring a new 'anti-vaccination' documentary called Vaxxed.
In two interviews with NBC's Today show, De Niro, the festival's co-founder, explained why he had first asked for the film to be included but then said it would not be shown following protests...
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554747/Why-Niro-backing-MMR-doctor-hounded-Britain-Actor-believes-triple-jab-risks-covered-pharmaceutical-giants-son-developed-autism-overnight-vaccination.html#ixzz46rnDsAzG
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1)But you are not saying what it is you want people to do. What should people have done about the cell tower if you had been in charge? And who would put you in charge? Unless you can say you are just talking big, and that doesn't help anything.
2) Whatever you propose the purpose of this site is primarily to inform. You post information and there is nothing inherently more pro-active about your information than anybody else's. Information is obviously vital in having any handle on the situation whatever strategic initiatives people make.
Posted by: John Stone | April 30, 2016 at 04:49 AM
My son, who has 2 autistic sons, as a result of the MMR, was over the moon at the Daily Mail article. OK, so they had to throw in a bit to keep a 'balanced' view, and there was the 10 year difference re the study, but all in all, it was a major breakthrough here in the UK and, with it being read by so many people, will have thrown doubt on the vaccine schedule/multiple vaccinations. Well done, Daily Mail!
Posted by: susan | April 29, 2016 at 07:21 PM
David M. Burd,
"it is true, with notable exceptions, our Government Leaders (Congress, CDC, FDA, NIH, etc.) have TOTALLY FAILED to be honest and objective, AND, being paid off."
If your strategy is based on expecting Federal government leaders to be honest and objective, you're doomed at the starting gate. Let's start with Congress, and specifically the Senate. They have two sources of support: campaign donors, and their Federal paycheck. Given the cost of a Senate campaign, the ratio of their Federal salary to their campaign donations over a six-year term is about 5%. Who do you think they're going to listen to? They would also like to get a cushy well-paying job in industry when they leave government, so they also want to satisfy industry.
For the Executive Agencies, the Directors are political appointees. They are typically appointed because of Party affiliations. The Directors need to satisfy the politicians who appointed them, which translates into satisfying the campaign donors for these politicians. They would also like to get a cushy well-paying job in industry when they leave government, so they also want to satisfy industry. If they Head a regulatory agency, they don't want to antagonize the industries they regulate.
At lower government levels, the mid-level bureaucrats want to satisfy the political appointees, which again translates into satisfying the campaign donors. They are also incentivized to go through the 'revolving-door' when they leave government, so they will be sure not to antagonize industry.
So, playing by the Marquis of Queensbury rules with the Federal government is a losing proposition if real change is needed. Probably the first step is to assemble a critical mass that would have more impact, and I don't believe either the 'anti-vaxers' or the 'anti-EMFrs' have anywhere near such a critical mass.
I agree that there are many in the vaccine safety community who have devoted much effort to reverse the trend, as there are many in the wireless radiation safety community, and they all should be applauded. But, when one looks at effectiveness and accomplishments, expenditure of effort is not the same as impact and outcome. Our team expended much effort in trying to block the cell tower, but our impact and outcome were ZERO! Repeating these types of fruitless efforts for years is non-productive.
Now, John Stone may view these comments as throwing cold water on the massive efforts that have been expended over the years. I don't view it that way. Pointing out that major changes are required when minimal gains are being made by the present approach is not defeatist; just the opposite!
Posted by: Ronald Kostoff | April 29, 2016 at 06:48 PM
The first thing I noticed when I started researching the Wakefield saga years ago was what was being said about him:
That he did a study and said that the MMR caused autism. I wasn't hooked into all the information sites like I am today so I kept running into walls from pro-vaxx and sites like Huffington Post that repeated the same line-Wakefield executed a fraudulent study that said the MMR caused Autism. I later learned he was also accused of abusing children, going to children home under fraudulent circumstances to take blood samples because he was developing a vaccine to sell to the public outside of the British Health Care system.
I had, and still suffer the consequences of a medication mishap back in 2001. In 1999 I experienced side effects to the antibiotic Cipro, reported to my doctor so it was suppose to be in my medical records but wouldn't you know it-someone didn't do their job. I had a surgical procedure in 2001 and was given Cipro via IV in the OR PLUS a steroid called Kenalog 40. They are counter indicators and I have suffered adrenal fatigue plus other issues since. It has taken me years to get some level of health back. Right now I am going through Prolotherapy to rebuild my knees because Cipro causes tendon & cartridge damage. This is something the FDA now admits even though they've know it since it hit the market. I have been on that medical merry go round where NO ONE wants to help you because it gives the appearance that what was done to you was the fault of the medical care given--and it was so they send you to dozens of doctors who send you to more etc. After 18 months I'd had enough. In researching all the adverse reactions I was having vaccines crossed my path and the Wakefield saga. IMHO I though it was way over the top so of course I began to research it. Knowing what I experienced my gut knew someone was hiding something. I have developed an healthy skepticism for the CDC,FDA & Big Pharma.
Wakefield study included 12 other researchers and their conclusion was:
Wakefield AJ, Murch SH, Anthony A, et al. Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children. Lancet 1998; 351: 637-641.
We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described. Virological studies are underway that may help to resolve this issue.
Hmmm. Something was voodoo which always makes me look, you know the Streisand effect. I kept running into this line Wakefield's study cannot be duplicated or has not been duplicated. Shortly after I started seeing similar research and found websites that compiled list of studies similar to Wakefield's:
"No Evidence of Any Link" http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2007/06/no-evidence-of-any-link.html. 124 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Link. Plus other papers on the government website. Soon I found site like AOA, VacTruth etc that provided outstanding information on Dr. Wakefield-especially AOA.
Other than Dr. Wakefield himself AOA is a good place to read about the Wakefield witch hunt. My search started when I read what the study actually said as opposed to what was being presented in the MSM. This entire episode reminds me of the rev up to the war in Iraq. The government ruined the lives and careers of Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame to cover up their corruption. With all the money involved the CDC/Pharma wouldn't hesitate to do it-especially with the stakes so high. If you have anything specific you would like to know please feel free to ask.
Posted by: Danchi | April 29, 2016 at 05:50 PM
Look, you provide lots of valuable and fascinating information when you post here and no one ridicules it. No one guffaws and says "And why are you surprised?", because that is not what we do here. What we do is comment on things and provide people with information. This is actually an import function: recording and interpreting history and science. Obviously people organise in all sorts of ways and only parts of it happen in public, necessarily.
Posted by: John Stone | April 29, 2016 at 05:11 PM
Let us not forget BD asked the General Medical Council if he could help them with information that he had gathered then BD spoke with parents at the GMC hearing and said that the GMC HAD ASKED HIM FOR INFORMATION i think he may be a little confused
Posted by: Debra | April 29, 2016 at 04:22 PM
Here is your statement to me (and a multitude of others):
"By our inactivity and apathy, we are responsible for a vaccine schedule out of control"
WHERE THE HELL have you been the last three decades!? There are so many notable heroes such as Barbara Loe Fisher, et al. (the many credentialed medical professionals who have testified and written strong judgements on the Vaccine Horror, and, STRONGLY supported by, countless citizens, who have endlessly testified to their families being wrecked.
It's clear you have (perhaps justifiably) taken on EMF potential damage now upon the whole Planet, and I applaud you.
BUT, the direct injected toxins by vaccinations in the first months of life (and in the womb by the mother taking her injections), in my assessment, are far, far more damaging, and lethal. AND, provable, but suppressed by the our CORRUPT GOVERNMENT MEDICAL LEADERS.
THERE have been and continue to be countless thousands - ney, millions - of citizens taking on this fight for decades. YET, it is true, with notable exceptions, our Government Leaders (Congress, CDC, FDA, NIH, etc.) have TOTALLY FAILED to be honest and objective, AND, being paid off.
best wishes to you, david m burd.
Posted by: david m burd | April 29, 2016 at 04:15 PM
5 countries have replicate that paper
Posted by: Debra | April 29, 2016 at 04:11 PM
Just for some people's interest at the time of their referral to the Royal free the time material to their inclusion in the Lancet Paper , none of the children were litigants
Posted by: Debra | April 29, 2016 at 04:03 PM
"It seems to sometimes be your obsession to pour cold water on everybody who is trying to do anything and this is not at all helpful."
I look at the problem that needs to be solved, I look at what needs to be done to solve it, and I look at what is being done. In many of these problem areas, not restricted to vaccines, what needs to be done bears little relation to what is being done. Now, we can continue to do what little we have been doing, and we can expect to get about the same results (or lack thereof) we have been getting. That, to me, is not a roadmap to victory!
Last year, I spent about three months involved in an effort to stop approval of a cell tower construction. We played by the rules, and, as I expected, we lost. Now, the next time a cell tower is proposed, we can mount a similar effort, as everyone else does, and we will lose again. And, that's been the history of cell tower opposition. So, from your perspective, our efforts should be lauded, and no one should pour 'cold water' on them. If ever there was a formula for defeat, that's it!
To defeat these cell towers, and other items hazardous to our health, we need to step out-of-the-box, develop a strategic plan, and take measures that perhaps have not been taken before. I think cold water is the appropriate treatment for ineffective measures. We're playing by someone else's rules, and we're losing across the board, whether it's vaccines, glyphosate, wireless radiation, etc.
Posted by: Ronald Kostoff | April 29, 2016 at 03:38 PM
"Other studies failed to replicate Wakefield's conclusion and it was then revealed he had been paid hundreds of thousands of pounds by a lawyer acting for parents suing vaccine producers"
Danchi, can you elaborate on this? I've seen Brian Deer accuse Wakefield of this, and it seems like everyone on the internet just followed suite. I want to know more about the story regarding the "expert" fees paid, and why you believe it to be an outright lie.
Posted by: whyser | April 29, 2016 at 03:16 PM
I think maybe it is a matter of rhetoric but the people who have campaigned have campaigned. How do you wake others from their complacency? How do you stop politicians seeking silly solutions to public needs, even if they are not bought or intimidated? They want of course to be told fairy stories about products with poisonous ingredients which never go wrong - and they like to assert their technical incompetence to judge. The media are very happy to do the same - in the UK they want to be spoon-fed from Science Media Centre, which is really just an off-shoot of the Department of Health and the Department of Business. But the people who are not going along with it deserve credit for sticking at in the most unfavourable circumstances. It seems to sometimes be your obsession to pour cold water on everybody who is trying to do anything and this is not at all helpful.
Posted by: John Stone | April 29, 2016 at 01:22 PM
"A 94-year-old former SS sergeant admitted in court Friday that he had served as an Auschwitz death camp guard, apologizing to Nazi Holocaust survivors looking on in a German courtroom that even though he was aware Jews were being gassed and their corpses burned, he did nothing to try to stop it......Hanning is charged with 170,000 counts of accessory to murder on allegations that AS A GUARD HE HELPED THE DEATH CAMP FUNCTION, SO CAN LEGALLY BE FOUND GUILTY OF ACCESSORY TO MURDER."
How does that differ conceptually from those who know the dangers of vaccines but continue to approve and administer them, or those who know the dangers of wireless radiation but continue to market these devices, or those who know the dangers of toxic pesticides but continue to produce and market them? And, that includes the politicians who pass laws that enable these crimes to continue and expand!
Posted by: Ronald Kostoff | April 29, 2016 at 10:37 AM
I just saw that a contingency of those who lost loved ones due to illegal immigrants appear at a Trump rally. It was noted. Why not a whole bunch of vaccine court or otherwise vaccine injured (parents of) appear at another rally of Trumps? That would possibly make an impact. Maybe more than written protests?
Posted by: Go Trump | April 29, 2016 at 10:10 AM
Linda 1 : Agreed in full. And the techniques of control and their reach have become far more sophisticated in recent decades, along with the technologies. Astonishing in their pervasiveness. And if we didn't have reason enough to be constantly looking over our shoulders, what is going on in bioweapons labs (forget North Korea or any other favorite "enemy" power-our own are likely the creepiest and most dangerous) should sober us all up. Very little of this work is discussed much anywhere that I know of, but I suggest we pay attention to it, close attention.
Posted by: Gary Ogden | April 29, 2016 at 10:03 AM
"And by the way I do blame the CDC. I didn't ask them to lie, bully and prostitute."
Nowhere in my statement do I absolve the CDC of any responsibility for their actions. But, they are one link in a very large network that transports vaccines from the manufacturers to the recipients. In order for that network to be effective, ALL links have to be operational. That means the vaccine manufacturers continue to 'donate' funds to myriad organizations to put a positive spin on vaccines, that government agencies approve products on the market without adequate long-term safety testing, that Congress passes laws to waive liability for manufacturers, that researchers and their organizations take funds to show only the 'benefits' of vaccines, that the media take funds to promote the positive side and suppress the negative side of vaccines (and many other harmful products), and that clinicians continue to administer vaccines while at least some of them know better.
And, the main link is we the people. By our collective inaction and apathy, we allow this network to function. Yes, as Linda1 says, "Our citizens are victims of a very slick coordinated 24/7 mind control campaign using propaganda, drugs, and addictive distractions, designed to produce complete compliance and to prevent any kind of lucid thoughts or dissent." But, there have been even more repressive societies in the past where the citizens took much more extreme action to effect change. In our own American history, some fairly drastic measures were taken to achieve improved labor conditions, civil rights, etc. No less is required if we want freedom from iatrogenic damage, wireless radiation damage, agrichemical damage, air pollution damage, irreversible climate change, etc!
Posted by: Ronald Kostoff | April 29, 2016 at 10:01 AM
"By our inactivity and apathy, we are responsible for a vaccine schedule out of control, for wireless radiation expansion out of control, for a climate going out of control, and our many other societal ills. Yeah, it's easy to blame the CDC and everyone else but ourselves!"
Our citizens are victims of a very slick coordinated 24/7 mind control campaign using propaganda, drugs, and addictive distractions, designed to produce complete compliance and to prevent any kind of lucid thoughts or dissent. Are you kidding?
Posted by: Linda1 | April 29, 2016 at 09:30 AM
Danchi - good point , well made but
"The Daily Mail is all we've got here in the UK ."
We are locked down , only the aussies\irish\nz are worse off .
Posted by: Hans Litten | April 29, 2016 at 08:57 AM
I wasn't impressed with the article because of this statement:
"Other studies failed to replicate Wakefield's conclusion and it was then revealed he had been paid hundreds of thousands of pounds by a lawyer acting for parents suing vaccine producers."
This is just an outright lie and regardless of the DeNiro statements, people will only see this and continue to push this lie because they have had over a decade of being condition to it. DM gets no brownie points from me.
Posted by: Danchi | April 29, 2016 at 08:43 AM
I blame the CDC and everyone else - & it isn't easy at all .
Quite the contrary . Its hard work . this really is a David and Goliath struggle .
There was a time when I trusted authority . They worked hard to achieve that status too , they set up the trap . the vaccine trap , and now the trap has been sprung .
At least , unlike many others also caught by the vaccine lie , I see it clearly now (these other poor souls still believe the Govt propaganda , that vaccines aren't the cause , fluoride is good for you , mercury amalgams are safe , aspartame has been proven safe , vaccines are safe & effective , those aren't chem trails you see in the sky , wifi is safe).
Posted by: Hans Litten | April 29, 2016 at 08:28 AM
But Ronald, who is "ourselves"? I have been fighting this every day for the last 16 years and so have many others here. Include me out.
If you mean that not enough people have been fighting it, and there isn't enough money that is something else.
And by the way I do blame the CDC. I didn't ask them to lie, bully and prostitute.
Posted by: John Stone | April 29, 2016 at 08:22 AM
David M. Burd,
"Nevertheless, for the last 12 years the criminals at CDC have permitted and promoted at least scores of thousands of kids to be permanently damaged by the MMR shot alone."
It goes well beyond the CDC. It starts with the vaccine manufacturers, proceeds to the media, politicians, and government agencies they 'own', then shifts to the institutions, researchers, and clinicians who do their bidding. Finally, it arrives at us, you and me, who sit on our collective asses, don't do our research on the harmful effects of all products we're using, and vote in office the same people year after year who allow these travesties of justice to take place. By our inactivity and apathy, we are responsible for a vaccine schedule out of control, for wireless radiation expansion out of control, for a climate going out of control, and our many other societal ills. Yeah, it's easy to blame the CDC and everyone else but ourselves!
Posted by: Ronald Kostoff | April 29, 2016 at 07:47 AM
At least the Daily Mail was brave enough to print some accurate statements from DeNiro and Dr. Wakefield.
Of course NONE of the American Newspapers/Mainstream Media aired such quotes.
One obvious typo however by Daily Mail was citing the Thompson/CDC MMR Autism Study was year 1994 --- when it was actually 2004. Nevertheless, for the last 12 years the criminals at CDC have permitted and promoted at least scores of thousands of kids to be permanently damaged by the MMR shot alone. And allowed and promoted literally millions of other kids to be damaged (or killed via SIDS) by the other shots in the Schedule's vaccinations.
Posted by: david m burd | April 29, 2016 at 06:59 AM
The Daily Mail is all we've got here in the UK .
And it is quite careful not to go too far in our direction
Amazing article however .
The rest of lamestream is entirely locked down .
The BBC has never uttered the words "William Thompson" in 2 years - total state censorship
Posted by: Hans Litten | April 29, 2016 at 05:57 AM