A Doctor Speaks Out on Medical Exemptions in California
San Francisco physician Dr. Ken Stoller has long been an advocate for vaccine safety. He was an outspoken critic of SB277, the California law passed last year that eliminated personal exemptions from vaccinations mandated for school attendance in that state.
This was Dr. Stoller's speech in opposition to SB277 in Sacramento on April 8, 2015.
I recently talked with Dr. Stoller about the medical exemptions he's writing for children in his practice. The information he provided should be of interest to many California parents concerned about a one-size-fits-every-child vaccine schedule.
Me: Dr. Stoller, you are currently providing medical exemptions (MEs) from vaccinations for children. How do you determine who's susceptible for a vaccine reaction?
Dr. Stoller: Yes, I have written ME's after doing a comprehensive Adverse Event risk assessment for each child whose parents requested it.
The new California law leaves it up to the medical judgment of a licensed physician to determine if a child qualifies for a medical exemption
"the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances including, but not limited to, family history, for which the physician does not recommend immunization . . ."
It is my opinion that the medical exemption and the reasons thereof be documented sooner rather than later.
Me: What might, who might or could qualify for a medical exemption?
1) a child who has already had a serious vaccine reaction - NOW SOME GROUPS, such as Kaiser, have essentially made this the only qualifier for a medical exemption - a near death level vaccine reaction, but that is not the law, and the wording of the law was just quoted.
2) the sibling of the child who had that vaccine reaction
3) children of someone who had a serious vaccine reaction
4) reactions in more distant relatives require looking at genetic biomarkers or polymorphisms that have been associated with vaccine reactions, because documenting a 4th cousin once removed had an untoward vaccine reaction is likely to be challenged at some point.
5) Children with chronic medical conditions may qualify depending on the condition.
6) Children in families where a family member has a neurological or even psychiatric disease may qualify depending on what that is and if there is any association with untoward reactions to vaccines.
7) Children with a documented polymorphismsm that have been associated with untoward vaccine reactions, such as the MTHFR gene, could qualify for a medical exemption.
8) Having antibody titers to any or all of the required vaccines that demonstrate immunity should, according to the law that SB 277 amended, be good enough to comply with California requirements, but at each grade-span those titers will need to be re-measured to prove they are still present. Having titers proves immunity (although that isn't always the case) and the vaccine requirement is met (until the next grade-span).
Me: Is this expensive for parents?
Dr. Stoller: The question is how expensive is it to have a child disabled by an untoward vaccine reaction? But I do require each child complete the 23 and Me genomic test, which is currently $199, which is a very good deal for all the information one can access from the raw data. That is the only real financial burden I place on a child's family beyond my normal consultation charges for two 30 minute visits, which is what it normally takes to do an Adverse Event Risk Assessment.
Me: Are you worried that the government might not accept the exemptions you're providing?
Dr. Stoller: I am just following the letter of the law, and right now the "government" is the nice lady at the school admissions window.
Me: Do you hope more doctors will get involved with genetic testing and issue Adverse Event Risk assessment evaluations like you're do?
Dr. Stoller: Adversonomics is a new field in medicine that is science and evidence based. I would hope that all physicians would use objective measures and sound science to determine what to do and how to treat their patients. However today that is not the case, sadly. Look at the horrible situation with Lyme disease.... a real infectious disease pandemic that is ignored.
Me: What is your response to critics who say that you're using your position to get around the law and you're putting children and the community at risk for vaccine-preventable diseases?
Dr. Stoller: You should be asking is was it against the California Political Fair Practice Act for a legislator to author and lobby and vote for a law that would personally enrich him. To mix his business with government business. Dr. Pan is a pediatrician and by getting rid of the Personal Belief Exemption, he began driving more and more children to get vaccinated and that only enriches pediatric practices either directly or indirectly.
What I am doing, evaluating children for Adverse Event risk is consistent with the law that was passed and will soon go into effect.
Now, “Compulsory Vaccination”, as in school exclusions have been found constitutional. But at the same time compulsory government assistance should be available for children injured by vaccines, and compulsory compensation should be made available to families who lose a child who dies after being vaccinated. What price would be fair? I will start with $50 million be given to each family who loses a child from a vaccine reaction.... others might think that is too low.
The exact language of relating to the medical exemption reads as follows:
"120370. (a) If the parent or guardian files with the governing authority a written statement by a licensed physician to the effect that the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances, including, but not limited to, family medical history, for which the physician does not recommend immunization, that child shall be exempt from the requirements of Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415 to the extent indicated by the physician’s statement."
So, a medical exemption based upon the family history or individual medical condition(s) where it is decided that vaccine "is not considered safe" is also very broad. What is safe when there is nothing to compare "safe" to? The use of the word "circumstances" again seems quite broad and "considered safe" would seem to encompass traditional informed consent doctrine, but parents are not given true informed consent.
Since there is no safety data on the vaccine schedule, that is, there have been no safety studies looking at any issues related to giving multiple vaccines at once, over time, repeated boosters of combined vaccine, etc. how does a physician determine what is safe... safe compared to what?
The US Supreme Court has already stated that vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe" - and unsafe is fairly unambiguous.
Since there is not even minimal data to determine if the vaccine schedule is safe would that alone be enough to justify an exemption?
It should be, because essentially not only does this raise scientific/medical questions (the lack of safety data in a law that makes "safe" the determining factor for medical exemptions), but other issues, because there are no other approved FDA regulated pharmaceutical interventions are permitted that have no safety data behind them. Without baseline safety data... who or what is to determine what safe means? SB 277 has clearly given that determination to the individual physician.
When the Supreme Court states vaccines are unavoidably unsafe, can a physician then take it upon themselves to say they are safe or specifically they are safe for their patient without Informed Consent? This safety issue quandary can only be addressed by Informed Consent. Remember, the Supreme Court has opined that vaccines are not considered safe when they said vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe."
Informed Consent means you and yours have an option to decline consent. California has no problem with that but your child can't go to school or stay in school once they hit a grade span without a medical exemption - an exemption that (again) makes safety the key determining factor. Therefore, just based on the safety issue alone, every child in the state of California would be eligible for a medical exemption based on the way the law is now written.
Having said that, if you want a medical exemption for your child the general safety concern alone probably won't stand up to scrutiny without objective measures or a predisposed family history to back it up or both.
If the new law based on SB277 is properly implemented, there should be as many or more medical exemptions as there were PBE or religious exemptions, assuming health professionals feel they were really free to exercise their medical judgment. However they do not feel free even if they say they feel free.
What physicians say is that this vaccine, or that vaccine - heck the entire schedule, has been approved by the FDA and recommended by the CDC as being safe. But that doesn't change the fact that there is no scientific data on the overall risk of the schedule [baseline data on chronic health of unvaccinated vs vaccinate] for purposes of comparison. What physicans should be telling families is, "So, even though I can legally prescribe this vaccine, or the entire schedule, I must also tell you that the risks are unknown, the schedule is experimental, and you may wish to decline on ethical reasons."
That is what should be taking place in doctor's offices, but it is not, and ethics have nothing to do with the way medicine is being practiced today.... ethics are an elusive ideal.
Critics don't know the law, that don't understand the law, and they certainly don't know what is in vaccines or how they work or don't work.
If critics knew the science they would know that many vaccines actually spread the communicable diseases they are supposed to be supposedly preventing. The pertussis vaccine, for example, turns it recipients into pertussis factories for several weeks. Recipients of live virus vaccines will shed those viruses for who knows how long. There was a situation where a man was shedding polio form a vaccine for over 30 years.
Show me the science and I will show you that vaccines are unavoidably unsafe and do not do what most people think they do. And they do far more than what most people could imagine in the worse nightmares.
Past coverage on Dr. Stoller:
Anne Dachel is Media Editor for Age of Autism.
It looks like the suffix "onomics" is an alternative form of "omics". To me, adversonomics sounds better because the meaning is clearer.
Posted by: ATSC | March 19, 2016 at 03:39 PM
Hello we did 23andme but the later version makes it difficult to determine these markers. Can any one point me to how to take the raw data and find this out? Thanks. And thanks DR stroller for your courage and intellect!
Posted by: Anita Donnelly | March 19, 2016 at 03:12 PM
Can you explain the difference between adversomics (as coined by Poland, Ovsyannikova & Jacobson "Adversomics: The Emerging Field of Vaccine Adverse Event Immunogenetics") and adversonomics?
Posted by: JoanE | March 18, 2016 at 11:20 PM
Does the 23 and me test for MTHFR too?
Posted by: Cynthia Cournoyer | March 18, 2016 at 09:25 PM
"ethics have nothing to do with the way medicine is being practiced today.... ethics are an elusive ideal."
Truer words were never spoken.
Thank you, Dr. Stoller, for being brave enough to speak out against what has been done to our children in the name of public health. If my son could speak, I am sure he would declare you a hero.
Posted by: Donna L. | March 18, 2016 at 07:17 PM
Well not HC (the vaccine lover) then Bob
Indeed, good question about Christian Scientists, Margaret, for this country was founded on freedom of religion.
this doctor is very courageous. Bless him.
Posted by: Sun~Rose | March 18, 2016 at 05:43 PM
My mom was a 3rd generation Christian Scientist. I remember sitting in a small study room for several hours while everyone else in the 3rd grade was given this cool new MMR vaccine. This was around the time the schedule exploded; '86? Curiously, I can't find a word about any vaccines-at-school MMR campaigns. This was in Michigan. Anyway, my mom had filled out a special permission form that was sent home with everyone a week or so before, which had a space to register any possible exemptions. In that day and age of course, only "religious" exemptions were expected.
I only recently started thinking about that whole episode. I remember feeling very embarrassed, sitting it out in my little room, and then having my friends ask: "Where were you?" I was a new student, to boot. Just trying to fit in! I wanted that vaccine so bad!
Soon after, my new best friend Amy came down with "mono", which wasn't ever actually diagnosed, the doctor just told them that she could stay home from school for the next month if she was so fatigued, and I distinctly remember that she "wasn't contagious". A 3rd grader who was all of a sudden so weak and sick she couldn't attend school...
They've become masterful in throwing up smokescreens. No blatant public school vaccinations, whereafter parents might "compare notes". And most of all, Hep B at birth; aka "Born That Way". Before long, there exists no control group! We're probably there already.
Posted by: Joy B | March 18, 2016 at 04:02 PM
I worry for this courageous doctor speaking out so publicly. Our pediatrician, who is integrative and certainly understands the damage vaccines can do, promised us a medical exemption based on our son's Lyme and PANDAS, IF the law passed, which she didn't believe could happen. Once it passed, the story changed and she said we should stick with our PBE because my son is in 9th grade and grandfathered in. She is AFRAID of writing too many ME's, though she won't admit it. It's well known among integrative docs that it's safer to fly under the radar.
Posted by: PANDAS Mom | March 18, 2016 at 03:01 PM
What an excellent interview.
Thank you Dr Stoller for your mention of Lyme.
Posted by: Greyone | March 18, 2016 at 01:25 PM
So what happens to Christian Scientists in this mess? Or the Geneva Convention, for that matter. This all reminds very much of the United States in the 1920s, when a lot of awful things were being done by people who meant well but weren't necessarily willing to look at outcomes for their positions.
Posted by: Margaret | March 18, 2016 at 01:15 PM
Thank you, Anne, for interviewing Dr. Stoller...and thank you, Dr. Stoller, for your continued speaking out about the dangers, inefficacies, and idiocies of vaccines.
Thank you, also, for writing MEs for children in CA, as MEs are the only way a parent can now protect their children from the KNOWN dangers of vaccines, which include severely-disabling Autism and death...short of home schooling.
So few doctors in CA with the integrity to make sure they give and receive informed consent PRIOR to administering any vaccination. And even fewer who are courageous enough to openly challenge SB277 and boldly write MEs for the parents who ask.
So many corrupt cowards posing as doctors. So many who choose to remain willfully ignorant, or blissfully corrupt, lest they mess with their profits and upset their equally ignorant, arrogant, and corrupt colleagues.
Dr. Stoller is a hero to many in CA, and beyond. So grateful for your professional integrity and your courage to speak out against medical fascism, stand up for informed consent, and do all that you can to protect the children of CA. May God bless and magnify your efforts, Dr. Stoller.
For any newbies to AoA, here are a few recent articles I have written that might be of help as you seek to protect your own children, grandchildren, and loved ones from the horrors of the barbaric practice of vaccination and from the medical fascism that mandates vaccinations:
1. "10 Reasons Why Doctors Should Not Hesitate to Sign Medical Exemptions for Vaccinations When That is the Only Option Available for Patients/Parents" by Laura Hayes
2. "The Baby Food is Organic...the Shots are Not" by Laura Hayes
3. "Who Should Be Injected with Vaccines, Once Their Ingredients Are Examined?" by Laura Hayes
4. "Disney, Measles, and the Fantasyland of Vaccine Perfection" by Laura Hayes
5. "I Have Decided to Vaccinate My Child Because..." by Laura Hayes (Don't be deceived by the title! Written just before the CDC Whistleblower's admissions, so those are not included.)
6. "SB277 Sponsor Says Water More Toxic Than Mercury" by Laura Hayes
Posted by: Laura Hayes | March 18, 2016 at 12:39 PM
Wilhelm "Willy" Burgdorfer Phd. is credited with the discovery of the "lyme" bacteria. Burgdorfer gained worldwide recognition for his 1982 discovery of a tick-borne spirochete as the long-sought cause of Lyme disease. However another pathogen was not seen by Dr.Burgdorfer because it was too small to be detected by his equipment. This nanobacteria is the actual dominant pathogen in Lyme disease and is approximately 300x smaller than the borrelia spirochete, it is the genus Bartonella. Bartonella is one of only two bacteria known to science to be able to transfer DNA into the human cellular genome.
“we actually never had antibiotics capable of eradicating an infection. All pathogens produce a small subpopulation of dormant persister cells that are highly tolerant to killing by antibiotics. Once an antibiotic concentration drops, surviving persisters re-establish the population, causing a relapsing chronic infection. “
Vaccines are typically contaminated with nanobacteria.
The real cure for Lyme is here.
Posted by: don | March 18, 2016 at 12:17 PM
A really good and informative piece. Thank you Anne and Dr. Stoller.
Posted by: Maurine Meleck | March 18, 2016 at 09:28 AM
Maybe our next President .. whomever he or she proves to be .. will have the courage and intellect to appoint Dr. Stoller as US Surgeon General .. and .. just like Dr Koop before him denounced cigarettes for causing cancer .. Dr Stoller will speak "truth to power" on the dangers of vaccines.
Hey .. it' early in the morning and I like to begin my day by dreaming of a better future for our country.
Posted by: Bob Moffit | March 18, 2016 at 06:26 AM