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Dachel Media Update: Whoops! Pertussis Vaxxing is Waning.

By Anne Dachel Online news

They're talking about it all over the news.  The current whooping cough vaccine doesn't work long term.   Vaccine industry insider, Dr. Paul Offit, was featured in CBS News and USA Today lamenting that the old version of the whooping cough vaccine was more effective, but there were fears about "possible, albeit rare, neurological effects."  (Forbes declared that there were no "long-term" side effects.) 

(And of course nothing is said about Offit's financial gains from a rota virus vaccine, which makes him nothing more than PR guy for pharma.)

The same reporters who regularly blame unvaxxed children for outbreaks of diseases such as whooping cough, like Liz Szabo at USA Today, make no mention of their backpedaling here. 

So, if as Offit said, the current whooping cough vaccine is so ineffective, and the old version wasn't really dangerous, shouldn't we return to it?  It would be the logical thing to do.

Whooping cough makes a comeback as vaccine wanes, CBS News Feb 7, 2016

So a booster shot, called Tdap, is routinely given to kids at age 11 or 12. But that shot doesn't last long either.

"The issue is, the old vaccine against whooping cough had a difficult safety profile," explained Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center and a professor of infectious diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

It could cause high fevers and seizures in young children, he said -- which understandably worried parents. There were also concerns about possible, albeit rare, neurological effects, Offit added.

That led to the development of DTaP, which has far fewer antigens than the old vaccine, Offit said. Antigens are proteins that trigger an immune system response; with fewer antigens, DTaP is much less likely to cause side effects. But it also offers shorter-lived immunity.

"Basically, we traded effectiveness for safety," Offit said.

Waning Whooping Cough Immunity Blamed in Outbreaks, Health Day Feb 8, 2016 https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_157114.html

The booster shot given to pre-teens to ward off whooping cough only works for a short time -- a fact that has played a big role in recent outbreaks in California, a new study finds.

The study, of children in one large California health plan, found that the whooping cough booster shot offered "moderate" protection for about a year. But that immunity waned so quickly that little protection remained after two or three years....

"The issue is, the old vaccine against whooping cough had a difficult safety profile," explained Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center and a professor of infectious diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

It could cause high fevers and seizures in young children, he said -- which understandably worried parents. There were also concerns about possible, albeit rare, neurological effects, Offit added.

That led to the development of DTaP, which has far fewer antigens than the old vaccine, Offit said. Antigens are proteins that trigger an immune system response; with fewer antigens, DTaP is much less likely to cause side effects. But it also offers shorter-lived immunity.

"Basically, we traded effectiveness for safety," Offit said.

Protection from middle-school whooping cough vaccine fades fast, USA Today, Feb 5, 2016 (Liz Szabo) 

The shot protects 69% of 11- and 12-year-olds in the first year after vaccination,  but within four years, just 9% of these children have sufficient protection from the infection, according to a study published Friday in Pediatrics. …

Doctors introduced a  whooping cough vaccine in the 1990s in response to concern about the older shot's frightening — although temporary — side effects, which included prolonged crying and fussiness, fevers and sometimes seizures and limp muscles, said Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

Though the new whooping cough shot, called DTaP, is safer than the old one, it's clearly less effective, Offit said.

Why did so many California kids get whooping cough despite being, Los Angeles Times Feb 5, 2016

Earlier studies have found that protection from the set of pertussis vaccines that kids receive by age 6 — called the diphtheria-tetanus-acellular-pertussis vaccine, known as DTaP — also drops after the last dose is administered. One Kaiser study found that protection fell 42% per year on average.

Is It Time To Ditch Tdap As A Routinely Recommended,  Forbes Feb 5, 2016 http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/

It’s not news that we need a better pertussis vaccine. Scientists have known for several years that protection against whooping cough wanes much faster than expected in children and adolescents. A cursory skim of cases over the past century makes it clear that the increase in cases beginning in the early 2000s correlates with children who received the current vaccine (introduced in the early 90s) reaching school-age. Increases in outbreaks have also resulted from clustering of vaccine refusers and improvements in testing and detection. However, replacing the older whole-cell vaccine—which could cause frightening fever-induced seizures but with no long-term effect—with an acellular vaccine shoulders the lion’s share of blame for increasing cases….

This study also supports the importance of pregnant women receiving the Tdap in their third trimester. The effectiveness is high enough that the maternal antibodies can cross the placenta and provide newborns enough protection to make it to their first round of vaccines at 2 months. Previous research has already shown the safety and the value of prenatal Tdap boosters. And the acellular vaccine, disappointing though it is, is still the best defense against death from whooping cough, as very recent research has shown.

Anne Dachel is Media Editor of Age of Autism.

Comments

Danchi

Benedetta
Anytime a person is injected with a virus or a bacteria, they can be INFECTED by the virus or bacteria. They in essence have the illness. They not only have the illness, they are contagious and can pass it along. The studies confirm even if a person who has had the injections shows no symptoms, not even a mild cough, they are contagious. Vaccine shedding is nothing new and I'm sure the CDC/pharma uses this to push their agenda. Vaccinated people are spreading illness, every time they are vaccinated yet they have their online shrills pushing the message that Unvaccinated children are responsible for outbreaks. Pertussis has proven what people of choice have been saying for over a decade-Vaccinated people are causing outbreaks and with Pertussis outbreaks are happening in groups of people who are 90-100% vaccinated:
-13 cases of whooping cough confirmed in Davie County schools-
http://myfox8.com/2015/12/18/13-cases-of-whooping-cough-confirmed-in-davie-county-schools/
-Identifying symptoms of whooping cough during flu season-http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/identifying-symptoms-of-whooping-cough-during-flu-season-1.2635998;
-Pertussis in Reno County: Another Outbreak Among the Vaccinated? https://idsent.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/pertussis-in-reno-county-another-outbreak-among-the-vaccinated/
-Record Number Of Whooping Cough Cases In San Diego County Despite Immunization-http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/dec/22/record-number-whooping-cough-cases-san-diego-count/
-The Return of Whooping Cough in High Vaccination Areas- preventdisease.com/news/15/112015_Return-of-Whooping-Cough-in-High-Vaccination-Areas.shtml
-Vaccinated Children Cause Whooping Cough Outbreak In Florida
http://truthkings.com/2016/01/13/vaccinated-children-cause-whooping-cough-outbreak-in-florida/

There are stories that go back years. Pertussis vaccine has never worked the CDC is well aware of it BUT it's a money maker for the pharmaceutic industry and themselves because CDC & FDA employees are allowed to own stock in big pharma-so they will continue to push it as long as they can use fear mongering and doctors who suffer from willful ignorance to assist them.

The Emerging Risks of Live Virus & Virus Vectored Vaccines:
Vaccine Strain Virus Infection, Shedding & Transmission
http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/pdf/Live-Virus-Vaccines-and-Vaccine-Shedding.pdf

Tim Lundeen

@Benedetta, Vaccines suppress the immune system, see http://vaccinepapers.org/influenza-vaccine-immune-suppression/

Have you seen Dr Suzanne Humphries Vitamin C protocol? Very helpful. http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/09/07/vitamin-c-for-whooping-cough-updated-edition-suzanne-humphries-md/

kapoore

The media has been so effective at labeling non-vaccinating people as dangerous, people might vaccinate just to protect their kid from a mob of vigilantes. Schools might hold the vaccination line so if they are the center of a disease outbreak they won'tt be blamed for having too many unvaccinated. It really is a witch hunt, but knowledge is an antidote.

From what I've read recently, weakened antigens or viral fragments don't confer long term immunity. It varies according to genetic predisposition with some people receiving no immunity, some receiving medium immunity like 5 to 7 years, and some getting more or less long term immunity like 10 years. By high school 70% are no longer immune and boosters don't work. An unvaccinated child going into kindergarten wouldn't be that much different than a low responder. By high school the unvaccinated kid would be just like the other 70%.

Despite genetic variability, despite leaky herd immunity, the pressure is still on to keep immunization high to assure herd immunity. Fortunately none of these diseases is so lethal that break outs among the vaccinated is much of a problem. It's more of an academic debate.

It's strange that they pretend to care about mothers and babies when the whole thing is such a sham. No one is asking mothers if they are you more afraid of neurological disease or are you more afraid of whooping cough. Why not follow the advice of alternative doctors and keep vitamin C high, take cod liver oil (lemon lime flavor isn't too bad), and skip the shots.

Benedetta

"Pertussis vaccine doesn't work and it makes people asymptomatic carriers. Two current studies confirm this:"

Some one please explain to me why my daughter last vaccine four years ago - caused her to develop a whooping cough that did last and last and last? She was not exactly asymptomatic. What makes our family have such fast and obvious symptoms?

Benedetta

Ahhh Haaaa; That is it exactly Jenny Allen - backing down on the vaccinating pregnant women, and still saving face!

That is exactly it.

And they have to back down cause it does cause the Mother to abort her fetus -- it did me on my second pregnancy; it was given to me with out a thought, or my permission, or even before I even thought about permission 1984; a few weeks later I started to bleed, but the echo could not tell anything about it and then a week after that I aborted it cause it was dead.

Why did they not know this, guys?
That was 1984?
Please some one make some sense out of this?

Danchi

Forbes (Forbes.com)
http://www.truthwiki.org/forbes-forbes-com/

Benedetta

Former CDC, former witness for the drug company against DPT vaccine injured children, former or is he still working in a subsidized Pharma lab out in the University of California to research the DPT; James Cherry must be so proud.

Barry

They're talking about it all over the news. The current whooping cough vaccine doesn't work long term.

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If you were a scientist, who could you posssibbly tell the difference between a vaccine that didn't work 'long term', and one that never worked from day 1?

Jenny Allan

From the Forbes Reports (above):-
"This study also supports the importance of pregnant women can cross the placenta and provide newborns enough protection to make it to their first round of vaccines at 2 months. Previous research has already shown the safety and the value of prenatal Tdap boosters. And the acellular vaccine, disappointing though it is, is still the best defense against death from whooping cough, as very recent research has shown."

I am smelling a rat here. Paul Offit is not exactly renowned for criticism of vaccines, quite the opposite. His usual stance is vaccines are safe, effective and ought to be mandatory, yet he has definitely 'changed his tune' on Whooping Cough vaccines, accepting they are no longer effective.

Quote "Paul Offit, was featured in CBS News and USA Today lamenting that the old version of the whooping cough vaccine was more effective, but there were fears about "possible, albeit rare, neurological effects." (Forbes declared that there were no "long-term" side effects.) "

Of course, Offit and Forbes are lying through their collective teeth. The problems with the 'old' DTP vaccines are well documented and in the public domain. These vaccines were replaced pecisely because they caused child seizures, deaths and disabilities.

That's history. But what are parents to make of this 'push' to vaccinate pregnant mums with Tdap? Where IS all this "Previous research has already shown the safety and the value of prenatal Tdap boosters"? As far as I am aware vaccinating pregnant mums to 'protect' babies from whooping cough is a VERY recent innovation, less than two years from inception. This timescale is insufficient to make any conclusions about either vaccine safety or effectiveness in preventing Whooping Cough in newborns. This is nothing more than an EXPERIMENT to test an unproven hypothesis.

By now it is public knowledge the Brazilian Government MANDATED vaccinating all pregnant mothers with Tdap, from November 2014 to the present day, doubtless relying on the dubious advice supplied by Offit and the WHO. This seems to correlate with an explosion of Microcephaly in babies. As far as I am aware recent large numbers of newborns with small heads have not been born in African and other countries, where the Zika virus is endemic and has been for at least several decades. Blaming Zika for the Brazilian catastrophe is convenient for the likes of Offit and the pharma financed WHO.
Like I said - I SMELL A RAT!!

Birgit Calhoun

"It’s not news that we need a better pertussis vaccine." Where does that come from all of a sudden? Does Offit now have to eat crow? Or is he actually pretending that he was the one who discovered this not so new news?

Billie Joe

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/02/09/flood-manslaughter-charge-possible-flint-water-case/80063354/

Lead poisoning is potential manslaughter in flint.

Benedetta

Let us go from the East Coast to the West Coast and see how Dr. James Cherry is a doing; after he retired from the CDC, and after he earned even more money when he testified for big pharma money and against DPT damaged kids, then big pharma set him up a big lab at a big California University to research more on the DPT shot.

Surely after 30 years there is something new - or maybe old?

Perhaps they are going to bring back the old DPT shot and just finish us all quick?

Margaret

Okay, so who is dying from whooping cough? Who was dying before the vaccine was introduced? I had a cousin who had it as a baby, and it certainly didn't kill her. Did the children who died (according to Forbes) have other health issues? Were these children poor and didn't have access to timely healthcare? t haven't run into anyone with whooping cough who can actually give it to children, so how real its this concern? It's amazing how many articles are short on facts but long on praising vaccines. I guess Forbes has to keep those advertisers happy.

Danchi

Pertussis vaccine doesn't work and it makes people asymptomatic carriers. Two current studies confirm this:

Study titled: “Acellular Pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model,” used infant baboons to test the hypothesis that “current acellular pertussis vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission” of B. Pertussis. (there is no vaccine for Bordetella Pertussis virus) http://www.pnas (dot) org/content/111/2/787.

Lead author Tod Merkel did comment to the New York Times that when exposed to B. Pertussis after recently getting vaccinated, you could be an asymptomatic carrier and infect others, saying: “When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.” According to Tod Merkel of the FDA, it has now become clear that the vaccine does almost nothing to prevent the spread of whooping cough. Although it does seem to prevent about 80 percent of people from showing symptoms of the disease, it does not prevent them from catching it or spreading it.

-Study: Whooping cough resurgence due to vaccinated people not knowing they’re infectious? clinicalnews(dot)org/2015/06/24/study-whooping-cough-resurgence-due-to-vaccinated-people-not-knowing-theyre-infectious/comment-page-1/. From study/article:
"a detailed epidemiological model of whooping cough transmission to conclude that acellular vaccines may well have contributed to — even exacerbated — the recent pertussis outbreak by allowing infected individuals without symptoms to unknowingly spread pertussis multiple times in their lifetimes.

‘There could be millions of people out there with just a minor cough or no cough spreading this potentially fatal disease without knowing it,’ said Althouse. ‘The public health community should act now to better assess the true burden of pertussis infection.’ What’s worse, their model shows that if the disease can be spread through vaccinated, asymptomatic individuals essentially undetected.....

-Estimating the Effectiveness of Tetanus-Diphtheria-Acellular Pertussis Vaccine (Tdap) for Preventing Pertussis: Evidence of Rapidly Waning Immunity and Difference in Effectiveness by Tdap Brand: http://jid.oxfordjournals(dot)org/content/210/6/942.

-Vaccination against whooping-cough. Efficacy versus risks. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih(dot)gov/pubmed/?term=Vaccination+against+whooping-cough.+Efficacy+versus+risks.

-The Return OF Pertussis: James W. Bass MD, MPH; WITTLER, ROBERT R. MD http://journals.lww(dot)com/pidj/Citation/1987/02000/The_return_of_pertussis_.1.aspx

The other two portions of the shot are for what considering neither disease is contagious:
Tetanus is not a contagious disease, but rather acquired from deep-puncture wounds contaminated with C. tetani spores or fungus. Also, there is no diagnostic test for Tetanus, its diagnosed solely on symptoms. Since so many doctors are looking symptoms up on dr. google, I'd be skeptical of any Tetanus diagnosis.

Diptheria-diphtheria toxoid is not designed to prevent colonization and transmission of C. diphtheriae. "Today your child has about as much chance of contracting diphtheria as he does of being bitten by a cobra."--Dr Robert Mendelsohn MD

If you look at the CDC's "Reported Cases and Deaths from Vaccine Preventable Diseases, United States, 1950-2011*"
deaths from Tetanus & Diphtheria in the last 20 years is down in the single digits. Any death is tragic but what is more tragic is to inject toxins into people/children when the number of deaths from an illness is 000000.27 and lower. To me what's more repugnant is to tell people that the injections protect from vaccine preventable diseases when Vaccines have never been scientifically proven to PREVENT any disease.

rtp

It might be safer than the previous vaccine but neither of them ever worked.

Up until a few years ago, most doctors had confidence in the (new) vaccine. So whenever they encountered pertussis in a vaccinated patient they differentially diagnosed (eg as croup or respiratory syncytial virus).

As doctors gradually, one by one, lost their confidence in the vaccine they became more prepared to diagnose pertussis even in the vaccinated.

Hence the fact that pertussis appears to be occurring anywhere and everywhere now.

But the data making it look like the previous one worked is nonsense - a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Like all so-called vaccine success stories.

Jeannette Bishop

Paul Offit keeps saying it's the antigens that are so dangerous (implying that cheaper lower antigen, higher adjuvant vaccines are safer), and this despite the fact that babies can handle being challenged by 10,000, actually it's more like 100,000, different antigens at one time...

And babies have "a right" to be protected from those antigens by being injected with them...I wonder what he says about the "right" to be protected from contagious asymptomatic vaccinated pertussis carriers?

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