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Dachel Media Update: Carson in Debate

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(Thanks to Leslie Manookian for reminding me about part of the Republican presidential debate.) 

Sept 17, 2015, PoliticFact.com: Ben Carson says pediatricians realize need to cut down number and proximity of vaccines

Pediatricians have cut down on the number and proximity of vaccines because they recognize there have been "too many in too short a period of time."  

— Ben Carson on Wednesday, September 16th, 2015 in the CNN GOP presidential debate

"But it is true that we are probably giving way too many in too short a period of time. And a lot of pediatricians now recognize that, and I think are cutting down on the number and the proximity in which those are done, and I think that’s appropriate."

Are pediatricians cutting down on the number and proximity of vaccines? As for Trump’s claim about autism, as PolitiFact has noted before, decades of epidemiological research have demonstrated autism rates do not increase when vaccines are introduced to a population.

We contacted Carson’s campaign to ask for his evidence and did not get a reply. . . .

A survey of 534 pediatricians done for the American Academy of Pediatricians in 2012 showed that 93 percent reported that within a typical month some parents asked to spread out the vaccinations. The vast majority thought these parents were putting their children at risk for disease but thought they would build trust with the families if they agreed to the request.

While there is anecdotal evidence that some pediatricians have acquiesced to parents’ requests to delay vaccinations, that decision is not rooted in public health or science.

. . . There is no evidence that pediatricians are cutting down the number and proximity of vaccines based on any conclusion by them that there have been too many in too short a period of time.

Carson has provided no evidence to support his claim. We rate this claim Pants on Fire.

(It's interesting that in the videos of the debate where Carson said there are probably "way too many in too short a time," they conveniently left out the part about  "a lot of pediatricians now recognize that. . ." at CBS News  and the Washington Post .)

SO. . . was Carson not telling the truth when he said other doctors are concerned about the vaccine load and are cutting back?  

Politifact.com is saying 1) that a survey in 2012 showed almost all doctors had requests to delay vaccines and the MDs complied, and 2) "there is no evidence the that pediatricians are cutting down the number and proximity of vaccines based on any conclusions by them. . . "  

I want to ask any thinking person to consider what would happen to ANY DOCTOR who openly advocated for an alternative schedule because of safety concerns.  I'm sure the attacks on Dr. Andrew Wakefield and Dr. Bob Sears are very familiar to the medical community.  IF doctors are not following the recommended schedule, they're probably keeping a very low profile about it.  It was incredibly courageous of Dr. Carson to say what he did and look at the backlash he's facing.

Change is creeping in however under the guise of placating parents.  Yes, earlier this year major news outlets were talking about doctors being pressured to use an alternative schedule and they were going along with it, even though they didn't think parents were right in their concerns.

The NY Times covered it

USA Today

Fox News

I wonder if what other doctors tell Dr. Carson in private is different from what they'd tell the NY Times and Fox News.  

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Comments

Denise Anderstrom Douglass

I believe Dr. Carson will now be vilified in the style they did Dr. Andrew Wakefield. I believe Rand Paul will regret not standing for what he believes, and trying to make up to Monsanto, etc. That Donald Trump spoke what he thought and the only two other candidates who spoke up were both medical doctors, who swore "that oath," says it all, folks.

Sophie Scholl

OK JDS I'll contact Rand myself . Thanks though

Sophie Scholl

False scientists...

http://www.paul.senate.gov/connect/email-rand

Can some US citizen (brilliant if from Kentucky)
please send this link to Rand Paul ?

https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the-news-isnt-saying-about-vaccine-autism-studies/

L  Land

My theory is that doctors have Wakefield syndrome type 1 or type 2 when it comes to patients with autism. Type 1 is more common, these doctors believe all the misinformation from the cdc, medical associations and big pharma so they believe that there is never anything medically wrong with someone with autism, everything is a behavior issue. Now type 2 doctors either know or suspect Wakefield is right and are terrified to say or do anything because they don't want to be vilified too
This is especially true with GI docs

Jenny

Re: Rand - I wonder if he had to. I thought I read a while back that Rand wasn't picked as a Koch potential? If that was true, he would have to find funding elsewhere. Did he recently placate the repubs by supporting GMOs? Now he's placating Dems by trying to undermine the autism/vaccine connection?

Barry

"But it is true that we are probably giving way too many in too short a period of time. And a lot of pediatricians now recognize that, and I think are cutting down on the number and the proximity in which those are done, and I think that’s appropriate."

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Really? Arbitrarily cutting back on how much poison you inject into other people's children is ….. appropriate????

It's hard to comprehend that level of hubris. But if you take stupid out of the mix, I think word that best describes the behaviour of paediatricians is criminal.

False scientists...

Rand just completely folded and said with a straight face that all the science studies show that vaccines don't cause autism. To Wolf Blitzer.

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