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Dr. Andrew Wakefield Speaks Out on CDC Vaccine Science

Justice WakefieldThis is an astonishing interview.  The public statements made by Dr. Wakefield here were some of the most damning I've ever heard.  He accused Dr. Gerberding and Dr. De Stefano of fraud and criminal cover-up of the truth about vaccine damage.   We are destroying the health of a generation of children through the total lack of government oversight.  It has to stop. 

July 27, 2015


In this hour long discussion, Dr. Wakefield talked about his work on the MMR vaccine and bowel disease/autism, including the retribution he personally experienced.  He explained the legal issues he became involved in when parents made claims against the vaccine maker whose vaccine injured their children.  He came to the conclusion that "these [official] safety studies are totally inadequate."  He urged the use of single vaccines instead of the combined MMR vaccine, and in response, vaccine makers stopped making the separate shots.

Wakefield discussed the politics involved in this controversy and the pressure put on those who speak out. 

He made the stunning statement:"The notion of protecting children against serious infectious disease using safe and effective vaccines is laudable.  Unfortunately, none of the vaccines that are currently on the schedule, in my opinion, come anywhere close to meeting those criteria, either alone, but most particularly in combination."

Wakefield was most critical in his remarks about the ethic/motivations of the vaccine industry and Brian Deer. 

We owe a debt of gratitude to Stacy Francis for allowing Dr. Wakefield this opportunity to explain what happened to him and how it changed his life. 

"It was a very dark time. ...It's rather like a nightmare where you see a catastrophe taking place before your eyes.  You've got all of these parents coming and saying the same thing whether they live in India, or Europe or America, they are telling you the same story.  They're not making it up.  . . . They realize they have a story in common with so many other parents.  So you're seeing a lot of children being damaged.  At the same time your ability  to do something about that is being stripped from you.  You can't help them clinically, you can't help them scientifically.  What do you do?  And that is a nightmare. 

"What's interesting is ultimately, when you lose everything, when you lose your career, and your income, and the letters after your name, it's strangely liberating.  Strangely liberating because you think, right, everything's gone, you've got nothing left you can take away from me, so I'm going to become your worst enemy.   And with my great friend, Polly Tommey, we decided that if you're going to take on the media, you have to become the media.  . . ."

Wakefield pointed out that the push to end exemptions and remove parental rights is bringing this to a head.  He went on to talk about the whistleblower.  He said that in 2001, CDC scientists tested the hypothesis that the younger a child receives the MMR vaccine, the greater the risk for autism.  They found it was correct--and they were told to bury the data.   Thompson refused to announce the fraudulent findings at the IOM Meeting in 2004.  Instead, as Dr. Wakefield said, "The lead author, Dr. Frank De Stefano, went up there and lied.  He presented the false data, said there is no problem.  The IOM said, that's it, no further funding should be given to vaccine safety research.  In Vaccine Court, 5,000 cases were pulled, based on that decision. . . ."

Wakefield continued explaining how William Thompson broke protocol and contacted Dr. Julie Gerberding, then head of the CDC, about the data they found.  For doing that, according to Wakefield, what Thompson got was "a threat to sack him for trying to expose the truth.  And the whole thing then was covered up.  Julie Gerberding left and went to Merck, to become the head of vaccines on some huge salary."  Wakefield also explained how the whistleblower's story came out. 

The upcoming rally at CDC's headquarters in October was talked about.   Dr. Wakefield said he would be there along with Tony Muhammed of the Nation of Islam, and Robert Kennedy, Jr. "We will get the kind of attention that this deserves because it is an utter disgrace.  It's an utter disgrace that you can take, even in this day and age, a particular racial subgroup, who you know are at very high risk, and you can consider that acceptable collateral damage for your policy? . . .

"One of the senior authors of that paper. . . is an African American woman.  Watching this happen. . . .  It's reminiscent of . . . the CDC, the public health experiments in Tuskegee with syphilis.   The experiments in South Central Los Angeles with a measles vaccine that was known to be highly reactogentic, very dangerous.  It was causing deaths in children in developing countries.

"What are we thinking?  What are we thinking to allow this to happen?  Did they think this would never come out?  Did they think they would be able to conceal this forever?  Clearly they did.  That's the thinking of the people who are in charge of the health of this country."

Wakefield went on to describe the differences between the mercury additive, thimerosal, the aluminum used in vaccines, and the live virus MMR vaccine.  He called for recognition of autism as a medical condition, not a psychological one. 

Wakefield made a dramatic appeal for our country to address the future needs of this disabled generation.  "We cannot watch them just fall upon the mercy of a system, a society that does not care."  He said that Polly Tommey in Austin, TX, had started a center for adults with autism that addresses their specific needs called www.autismtrust.org.  The continuing disaster will involve the coming adults that we're not prepared to handle or pay for.  


susan welch


Here is an interview between Alex Jones and Andrew Wakefield which Youtube cannot take down. It is from Brighteon which, as I am sure most of you know, Mike Adams created to overcome the increasing risk of censorship.


Video has been taken down😔


Great interview. I am a vaccine injured patient, when I talk to any pediatrician, they seem to be completely unaware of adverse effects of vaccines, they just try to convince us to get all the shots at once for the kids.. how in the world they are not informed about this.. Big pharma is least bothered, it is just interested in filling their pockets at the cost of public's health.

Thank you both for this interview.


Amanda Mary a GcMAF Mother Nature and You doc in danger. Another accident or suicide going to happen?


Wanted to add my thanks for an enlightening interview.
Truth to power.

Sergey N. Rumyantsev

Dr. Andrew Wakefield is right. However the problem is far broader of the discussed example. Human population are very diverse in terms of genetic susceptibility to any infectious disease. Over 90% of World-wide population possess inherent immunity to all known infections and thus do not need to be vaccinated. Far less than 10% of any populations do not possess hereditary immunity. The morbidity and mortality conditioned by infections is predestined by existent minority of genetically defenseless individuals and isolated ethnic groups. That means the principle of total vaccination is at least 10-fold more excessive then real necessity
Rumyantsev SN. Hereditary Immunity: Fundamental Principles and Exploitation in LifeStudy and Health Care. New York: Nova Biomedical Books, 2008. Rumyantsev SN. Biological Weapon. A Terrible Reality? Profound Delusion? Skillful Swindling? New York:Vantage Press, 2006. Rumyantsev SN. Is Bioterrorism Idea a Delusion or Skillful Swindling? Puurs, Belgium: UniBook, 2010.


This was a great interview. Thank you Dr. Wakefield for your wisdom, integrity, humanity and courage, and thank you Stacy for your professional independence and courage too. The justice pendulum is rapidly swinging toward vaccine injured children and their families, and away from criminal vaccine poisoners. I believe that Nobel prize is in your future, Dr. Wakefield. You deserve it more than any other doctor.

Angus Files

Well spoken Dr Wakefield and one of your old sayings was "the long haul" yep! and yep! again!, were not finished yet.



I, for one, am very grateful that Dr. Wakefield refused membership in Doctors Without Balls.

Birgit Calhoun

The statement about what is happening to all those young men made me cry. This is the best interview so far. I hope the march brings lots of publicity.

John Stone

Hi Aline

Is anyone investigating Fombonne?


Dr Fommbonne is in a heap of trouble and the vaccine industry knows it. When the public starts to put all this together, they will be through with these "scientists." They will catch on that the most vocal critics of vaccine safety are paid spokesmen who either a) Work for disgusting industry front groups (ie, American Council of Science and Health Trustee Paul Offit), b) are utterly corrupt and dishonest (Eric Fombonne) or c) are pathologicallly criminal (Poul Thorsen - by the way, where IS he?) orégon portland


Dr Fombonne MCH montréal ; OregonDr Fommbonne est dans un tas d'ennuis et de l'industrie du vaccin sait. Lorsque le public commence à mettre tout cela ensemble, ils seront à travers avec ces «scientifiques». Ils seront prises sur ce que les critiques les plus virulents de la sécurité des vaccins sont les porte-parole qui soit a) travailler pour des groupes avant de l'industrie dégoûtant (payés à-dire, du Conseil américain de science et fiduciaire de la Santé Paul Offit), b) sont totalement corrompues et malhonnête (Eric Fombonne) ou c) sont pathologicallly criminelle (Poul Thorsen - en passant, où il eST)?

ORÉGON portland


In 1980, California had a law for a marriage license to be issued, the woman has to get the MMR if she was unsure if she had these as a child. I did not know nor were there records, so I did get the injection one August day, 1980. Labor Day, jerry Lewis TV fund raiser was on and I was bedridden for 2 weeks, fevers, flush, muscle cramps.
Was it the batch or me, the MMR or something else.
Another nurse had the same exact reaction.
You cannot take it back.
I am bummed and have lived with it and the affects since. Note I have known others and the debate goes on.
CDC, and the lobbyists get paid to say what they do, it is not always the truth and mostly not.

Lucy Cole

Thank you Dr. Wakefield and Stacy Francis for exposing the truth!! I will be at the CDC rally in October!


Finally, an interviewer with a hunger for the truth. And with the decency to treat a true hero with the respect he deserves.

Michelle F

The website with all of the rally details should be live within 48 hours. Please keep checking: www.CDCtruth.org Rally Demanding Truth & Transparency 10/23-25

Gary Ogden

Outstanding! Stacy is a fine interviewer, and Dr. Wakefield never disappoints. He is the mother country's best gift to us ever. Rare it is to find honorable and noble behavior in a public figure. An eloquent champion for all that is right. I will be at the march in October. No issue is more important for our nation.

Aimee Doyle

Dr. Wakefield -

Every time I read something that you have written or watch you in an interview, I am profoundly inspired by your courage.

It has helped me be braver.


This is why they are terrified to let Dr. Wakefield speak (and why that coward Dr Offit refuses to debate him).
Such an excellent interview! I believe Dr. Wakefield should receive the Nobel prize some day (hopefully soon). I can't think of anyone more deserving. Such a hero.

I'm IN

Dr. Wakefield will get the Nobel Prize in Medicine one day.

HEY tell us more about this rally at the CDC? When, where, how, etc! Time to plan a trip to DC! DC to the CDC, DC to the CDC.
CDC causes ASD

go Rand

Thank you Stacy !!!

You are doing what the rather debunk show of 60 Minutes used to do...

30+ years ago it was the same thing with the "whole cell DPT shot" which was killing children until it was taken off the market.

"SIDS was then invented" to try to explain to parents what was happening to their children because of the DPT vaccine.

Jeannette Bishop

Anne, thank you for alerting us to Stacy's interview.

@Benedetta, what you said!

False scientists make me laugh

Julie Gerberding and Frank DeStefano would have been hanged for treason years ago. They are first class thugs and need to face charges. People like Jake can say what they want about the handling of Dr. William Thompson but he is still alive.


Well they all should have know for 30 years and not 13 years. It is not like parents were not there complaining about the DPT shot. Even now the DTaP is causing great harm.

By the way: "When you take everything away - it causes freedom -- I am now your worse enemy. "

Heroes are few and far between cause - it ain't easy to be a hero. Wow!

Love the interview, wonderful!

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