The vaccine program is a disaster, kids are getting hurt, docs don't have to know anything about vaccines and we are left by ourselves to clean up the damage. Readers here know this well. Here is how it breaks down.
You got your one percent vaccine corruption, then you got your ninety nine percent ignorance and most of that is now willful ignorance.
(Seriously, the Polings went on CNN SEVEN YEARS AGO. To not know about the vaccine encephalopathy=autism discussion as a practicing pediatrician is willful ignorance.)
There are a hand full of corrupt bastards at the top of the vaccine industry (in both the public and private sectors, and the boundarylessness of the “public/private partnership") who have behaved very badly. They have lied about vaccine safety, they have covered up vaccine autism links, they have published phony research, and they have failed to tell the public about true vaccine risks. They are responsible for grievous harm to an entire generation of American Children.
But the thing is, they are actually a very small number of people. We talk about how vastly corrupt the vaccine program is, and it is vastly corrupt, but only the vaccine program “One Percenters” are actually generating the fraud. The rest of them are just propping it up by towing the “you must have 70 doses of 14 vaccines or the world will end,” line.
They are doing it because they are paid to do it, or because they take orders so they can keep working, or because they have been sold a line of bullshit that they are saving the world from “anti-vaxxers” who want to bring back disease, or because they simply don't want to get attacked for going against the flow. But the thing is, no matter why they are doing it, what they are actually doing is shielding Gerberding and DeStefano and Boyle and Yeargin-Allsopp and Insel and Thorsen and Insert RICO Eligible Name Here, from being put under oath and being cross examined under threat of perjury.
I want to scream, “WHY?! WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING YOURSELVES TO BE USED TO KEEP CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL! WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING YOURSELVES TO BE LIED TO AND USED TO HARM YOUR OWN PATIENTS TO PROTECT THESE MONSTERS!”
The Vaccine One Percenters can't answer our questions... won't answer our questions... won't answer for their behavior... so they keep throwing people in between us and them to delay the inevitable. This most commonly now takes the form of, “Vaccines are safe. If you have questions, ask your pediatrician.” But of course when we ask our pediatricians the real questions, their answers are some version of:
1. I have no idea what you are talking about.
2. Well my choice is to vaccinate, so yours should be too.
4. You're fired because you don't take current medical orthodoxy as inherent truth, and I live a fear based life where I throw my power around to avoid things I don't want to deal with. Consider yourself a bad parent.
And there are also a few true believers that are impenetrable to real world information, and are likely eligible for a diagnosis themselves, like Dr. Pan and Dr. Offit.
Only very rarely to you get people like the doctors Gordon, Sears, Bark, etc that will say, “Yeah... it is a mess. Make your own choices and I will go to bat for you in public.”
So why, doctors? At this point most of you know that what is being said in public about vaccine safety and efficacy is junk, and many of you resent having to answer for the absurd claims that you are being expected to defend in person to educated parents. So why don't you say enough is enough?
Why are you not as pissed at CDC for lying to you and using you and tricking you into harming... well Hippocrates only knows how many children... as we are for having our children harmed? How in God's name have you been convinced that WE are the ones to be attacked, and not people like DeStefano and Boyle who stay locked in their Ivory Tower and even refuse to be questioned by Congress!
Because at this point, after this year's events, and the new heights that we have soared to in the attack on parents and their very loud response, the only way you can not know that the program is corrupt to the bone is to stick your fingers in your ears. Get your damn fingers out of your ears!
How long is this ridiculousness going to go on? At what point do you start telling your patients in the office, “You know what... you make a great point. I have never heard of the VICP, and I don't know what the hell Vaccine Encephalopathy is. I was told Aluminum and Mercury were safe and not neuron killers. Let's you and I together, right now, call the AAP's head office and ask why they have never told me jack about any of this. Apparently standard vaccine adverse events have been in place since long before I ever set foot in medical school, and no one ever told me about them or taught me out to diagnose them. I'm mad too.”
When are you going to quit covering AAP/AMA/HRSA/CDC's ass at the expense of your own patients' health, the relationships you have with their parents, your own intellectual integrity and your moral compass? And if your answer is it's because you are so sure that the party line on vaccine safety is true, then why are you not routinely engaging in open forums with parents, research in hand, to be discussed ad nauseam, in open, after hours meetings so that you can be challenged and teach us where we are wrong?!
Why are you not insisting that vaccinated v. unvaccinated research be done, not just once, but constantly!?
Why are you sitting by and letting this bullshit pass for science and truth? You know that there are problems. Do you expect that the cowards who created these lies are going to be the ones to clean them up? No! It is up to you!
If you thought everything was fine, and this whole controversy was actually just being generated by internet rumor, you would be holding discussion groups in coffee houses and parks and on street corners to squash that noise. But you don't. You hide from those discussions. Because you know something is very wrong and you are too scared to deal with the problem with integrity.
As you know, OffitCo. decided to put Maine on their list to infect this year, and had two bills introduced to attack our exemption rights. So I had to stop doing what I usually do, gather a team to organize Maine, and start to establish a beach head here. Long story short, The Maine Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics submitted testimony to the Legislature that showed that they didn't know enough about vaccine injury to know what not to say about vaccine injury. Specifically that they don't know about the VICP.
So I wrote up a list of questions that we had for them, arising from their testimony, which I sent to them. They declined to answer. I was going to leave it at that, but you know me and I have trouble leaving things at “that.” Our exchange:
Subject: Vaccine questions for the AAP
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:17:03 -0400
From: Ginger Taylor <email@example.com>
To: Dee Kerry deHaas <firstname.lastname@example.org>
The Maine Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics is currently supporting LD 471, a measure that would require parents to have a counseling session with a health care provider, and obtain written confirmation of the session with the health care provider's signature, and file the form with the school system, before a child would be allowed to access their free and appropriate public education after forgoing a vaccine. The theory behind the measure is that parents need to be educated on vaccines, and have a chance to ask the questions they have about vaccination, before their children should be allowed in school. The irony of this measure is that the growing distrust of the current vaccine program in the US exists because parents cannot get their questions on vaccines answered.
The Maine AAP is also currently opposing LD 1076, a measure that would, among other things, require your membership to know and use the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program guidelines on vaccine injury. The reasoning behind this requirement is that since your membership has been given complete liability protection for causing injury and death when administering vaccines, they must, at the very minimum, be required to know and use the guidelines that HRSA has put in place to substitute the litigation process for delivering care and compensation to a child for a vaccine injury. The irony of your opposition to the bill is that the testimony submitted by your President, Dr. Pelletier, and two of your board members, Dr. Belisle and Dr. Losey, shows that they don't even know of the existance of HRSA's VICP, and have it confused with the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. VAERS is not even mentioned in LD 1076.
Your leadership literally didn't even bother to Google "Vaccine Injury Compensation Program" to see what it was before submitting written testimony to the state that impacts the health and education of all Maine children. After such a bold display of ignorance and lack of interest in vaccine safety, it is difficult to see how your organization can make any assertion that they are working in the interests of children's health and want evidence based information on vaccination to be informing the vaccine debate.
We have submitted testimony, that you can find on our web site, that takes the position that because your organization has not only failed to educated your members on federal vaccine injury guidelines, and because your leadership does not even know about this program themselves, then no pediatrician in Maine can be qualified to either give vaccine counseling nor administer vaccines.
How can one be qualified to vaccinate if one does not even know of the existence of the federal program that is the repository of vaccine risk information in the US? You can find the write up here:
As you might imagine, we have a number of questions for the Maine Chapter of the AAP arising from your testimony in the recent hearings. I have attached them, and we believe that your organization has a obligation to answer these questions to all of our members who have used your members vaccination services, and all Mainers who you believe should be legally forced to seek counsel from your members on vaccination before their children can attend school.
The bizarre experience of our membership has been that the American Academy of Pediatrics presents itself a good faith institution who is eager to engage families in vaccine discussions, but that as soon as those discussions turn to serious questions on vaccine injury, the conversation is shut down and families are ignored or attacked. If the Maine AAP is indeed a good faith organization, so intent on the well being of its patients that it wants to engage in dialog with those wishing to opt out of vaccines, as your support of LD 471 claims, then we first ask that the AAP engage the Maine Coalition for Vaccine Choice on our questions on behalf of more than 600 of these families in Maine.
While this is not a complete list of questions we have for your organization, these questions represent the basic questions that families need answers to in order to begin to believe that the Maine AAP is a good faith organization that wants to partner with parents, not bully them into buying a medical product for their child against their better judgment, or merely be able to bill for a 90460 CPT code.
We look forward to your response.
Ginger Taylor, MS
Maine Coalition for Vaccine Choice
Questions for AAP:
In your written testimony on LD 606, you make the unqualified statement that, “Vaccines are safe.” In your oral testimony you made the qualified statement that, “vaccines mostly are safe.” In your 2011 BRIEF AMICI CURIAE OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS AND 21 OTHER PHYSICIAN AND PUBLIC HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS IN SUPPORT OF THE RESPONDENT, in the case of Supreme Court case of Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, you advocate that vaccines should not only continued to be considered, “Unavoidably Unsafe,” but you argued that, “Case-by-case consideration of whether vaccines are unavoidably unsafe, on the other hand, would “undoubtedly increase the costs and risks associated with litigation and would undermine a manufacturer’s efforts to estimate and control costs,” this so that you were able continue to enjoy the blanket liability shield you enjoy due to this classification for all vaccines.
How can the AAP argue that vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe” in the Supreme Court in order to convince the federal government to grant you liability protection from vaccine injury, and then argue that, “vaccines are safe,” and “vaccines are mostly safe,” before this committee in order to convince the State of Maine to mandate that families receive counseling/buy vaccines from you?
Are vaccines, “safe,” “mostly safe,” or “unavoidably unsafe?”
How do such widely contradictory statements engender trust in vaccines and in pediatricians?
In your testimony on LD 606, you have made the unqualified statement that, “vaccines are effective.” Yet vaccine package inserts report varying degrees of efficacy for each product, and CDC reports that vaccines for pertussis and flu can have a relatively high failure rate.
How do you reconcile these statements?
How do such arguments engender trust in vaccines and pediatricians?
In your testimony on LD 606, you have made the unqualified statement that, “vaccination saves lives and money.
Can you please submit data to the committee the cost/benefit analysis to support this supposition, that includes costs incurred due to vaccine adverse events?
In your testimony on LD 606, in your discussion on measles vaccine, you have made the statement that, “...think it causes autism, which it doesn't. There was a corrupt researcher who published this association from faked data that he later retracted in disgrace.” Can you please supply the committee with the original source documents for these claims:
1. The statement made in the research claiming that the measles vaccine causes autism
2. The source of the judgment that the data used in the paper was “fake.”
3. The retraction statement issued by the researcher in question.
In your testimony you argue that families should be mandated to purchase vaccines from you and administer them to their children because, “they are recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics.” How is the argument that Maine should push families into your services because you recommend them one that will engender trust in vaccines or the AAP?
In your testimony in opposition to LD 1076, you make the statement that, “The Federal Vaccine Injury Program provides appropriate venue for reporting and tracking vaccine related side effects.”
In fact there is no “Federal Vaccine Injury Program” in the United States. There is a Vaccine Injury Compensation Program to compensate vaccine injury victims, but it does not, as you suggest, “track vaccine related side effects.” There is a program that does track vaccine related side effects, but it is called the Vaccine Adverse Reporting Events System. That program is not discussed in LD 1076.
LD 1076 would mandate that all AAP physicians be educated on the VICP, its table of injuries and how to help vaccine injury victims attain the needed medical evaluations so that they can access that program successfully in the event of a vaccine injury.
Doesn't the fact that the Maine AAP is not able to differentiate between VICP and VAERS in responding to this committee when opposing a bill on educating them on the VICP speak to the urgent need for legislation that educates AAP on the VICP?
What is the actual vaccine injury rate in Maine?
How many serious adverse reactions occur each year in Maine, and what is the approximate cost to the state for them? Please give us any information you have on short term medical care v. long term disability cases.
Please forward any data you have on how many vaccine deaths have occurred in Maine since the VICP and VAERS programs were established. Individual case reports would be helpful if you have them.
Of those reporting an injury, what percentage are your doctors diagnosing with a vaccine injury, what percentage end up being compensated by the VICP?
What does the AAP do to inform their members about newly ruled on vaccine injuries that are coming out of the VICP?
Parents have testified before the committee that their children are suffering vaccine adverse reactions and that they cannot get their pediatricians to assess and treat these children according to federal guidelines, nor are they able to find doctors to testify for them so that they can get these cases compensated in the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. What resources are available to these families?
Does Maine AAP oppose listing the VICP information and table in the Maine CDC Immunization Program Provider Reference Manual? If so, why?
Please list the AAP pediatricians in Maine who specialize in assessing and diagnosing various vaccine injuries, and who testify for families in the VICP.
What training and direction does AAP give their physicians on assessing and diagnosing vaccine injury, and then testifying on behalf of their vaccine injured patients in the VICP?
When a child presents with the symptoms of vaccine encephalopathy, per the VICP table, in the days or weeks following a pertussis or measles containing vaccine, what is the process by which a Maine pediatrician determines if the symptoms are caused by the vaccine or merely a temporal association? Please attach research and educational materials.
The Pace Environmental Law Review paper “Unanswered Questions from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program: A Review of Compensated Cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury,” has established that there is an overlap in the compensated cases of vaccine encephalopathy and an autism diagnosis. What is the AAP doing to re evaluate children with a diagnosis of autism, who also meet the VICP table description of encephalopathy, to assure that these children have not been missed and are not continuing to suffer from medical neglect for these associated medical conditions such as chronic brain inflammation?
You have stated that you “feel badly for those families that think that their children have suffered side effects,” implying that they merely believe that their children have adverse reactions, but they may not. Is it not the job of AAP pediatricians to perform medical assessments on these children to make that determination? What is the Maine AAP doing in response to these families reports of medical neglect because of the failure of pediatricians to perform proper assessments for established VICP table injuries? Have you contacted the families or the Maine Coalition for Vaccine Choice who brought LD 1076 forward to see if they have availed themselves of the programs that you believe that this bill already provides (making LD 1076 redundant?)
What is the Maine AAP's position on patients being kicked out of medical practices for refusing vaccines?
Your testimony recognized that parents are concerned about multiple vaccines administered at once, but you testified that when many vaccines are given together they “boost is higher when that is done.” Can you please provide the committee with the safety and efficacy data surrounding your recommendation to administer Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, HIB, Polio, Hepatitis B, Rotavirus and Pneumococcal vaccines simultaneously to all two month old infants?
We have heard testimony from Dr. Suzanne Humphries that she spent a year at Eastern Maine Medical Center simply trying to get data that showed that the policy of vaccinating her patients in the first 12 hours was safe, and eventually quit the hospital because she was retaliated against for attempting to provide science based medical care. What is the AAP doing to protect pediatricians in Maine who are not satisfied with the gaps in vaccine safety and efficacy data who are asking challenging questions of medical authorities on vaccine safety, and want to practice the precautionary principle in populations lacking data so that they “first do no harm?”
You stated that we have an obligation to protect each other from communicable disease. What is the AAP's position on protecting children from vaccine adverse reactions?
Subject: Re: Vaccine questions for the AAP
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:12:33 -0400
From: Dee Kerry deHaas - MAAP <email@example.com>
To: Ginger Taylor <firstname.lastname@example.org>
On behalf of the Maine AAP, I acknowledge receipt of your email and list of questions. I understand that our organizations have different perspectives in the vaccine debate. Each perspective has been aired in the legislative hearings and sessions with regard to these vaccine bills in the First Regular Session of the 127th Maine Legislature.
I respectfully decline to respond to your list of proposed questions or to continue the debate with you through electronic correspondence or social media.
American Academy of Pediatrics, Maine Chapter
I let it go, and just added it to my ten year pile of " we don't have to answer you so we're not gonna, leave us alone" emails. And then after a week I just had to go back to it because it bothered me so much.
Subject: Re: Vaccine questions for the AAP
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:58:31 -0400
From: Ginger Taylor <email@example.com>
To: Dee Kerry deHaas - MAAP <firstname.lastname@example.org>
For the last week or so I have been trying to process this email from you in light of your public support of LD 471. I had not planned to respond, but to simply write a piece pointing out the bizarre position you are taking in declining to answer our questions. But honestly, this is just absurd, I really feel the need to point this out to you and ask you again to engage with us on these questions.
You are supporting a bill to legally force parents of children using the philosophical exemption to have a discussion with their pediatrician, one of your members, about vaccinations before their children can go to school. The theory behind this bill is that parents are uninformed on vaccination risks and benefits and should become informed on these matters by one of your members.
I am one of these supposedly uninformed parents.
I have attempted these discussions with my pediatrician, in fact several of them over the years... again... these are your members... and cannot get the evidence based information that I am asking for that you claim exists. So for the last several years, I sit quietly when the nurse gives the vaccine pitch, say a polite, "No thank you." and then decline to sign anything. But now you want legally mandate that I have the conversation that I have stopped punishing my pediatricians and nurses with years ago.
So I am now coming directly to you, as you have asked the State of Maine to mandate me to do, as a parent who wants my questions answered. And you have refused to engage me and answer my questions.
To emphasize, re-frame and sum up... you personally want to legally force the members my organization (and me) to pay the members of your organization money to give them information that you are refusing to give me personally now. See how that is a bit problematic?
How can you possibly hold the position that you want open discussion on vaccine issues between our two groups, when you flat out refuse to engage our group on some very legitimate questions?
How can you possibly hold the position that you have no obligation to engage me personally, when you are trying to pass a bill legally forcing me personally to engage with your members?
If this bill passes, your membership will suddenly have to deal with a large number of parents walking into practices with this list of questions in hand, and lots of other documents that we will be preparing for them, to ask their individual pediatricians to answer them. What is your plan for preparing those pediatricians on how to deal with those conversations, that you personally are unwilling to have? Will your guidance be for them to tell the families, "I respectfully decline to respond to your questions?" Have you heard the adage about leaders never asking anything of their group members that they would not do themselves? How fun is that going to be for doctors to have our well prepared members ask them questions that you don't have the answers to give them? How suspicious do you think that patients will begin to become of their doctors who can't answer their questions?
Or will you be proposing amendments that require the parent to sit in silence while they are lectured?
Are your members actually in favor of being forced to have these conversations?
If you and your organization don't want to deal with the growing list of vaccine safety and corruption issues that are making parents so upset, then why are you supporting a bill that mandates that your members answer parents questions on them?
Have you really thought this bill through?
Ginger Taylor, MS
Maine Coalition for Vaccine Choice
I probably should have asked her to let me know what the acceptable list of questions will be for us to ask our doctors when we are forced into these appointment where we are supposed to ask questions of our doctors. Not that it would matter, because communicating with me is apparently beneath her.
Why is Maine AAP not jumping at the chance to educate us? They are going to the trouble to launch a political campaign to force educate us, while running from educating us.
Because they know this is bullshit. Kerry deHaas knows this is bullshit.
So why are they not pushing back against big AAP and CDC for expecting them to shovel the Vaccine One Percenters bullshit? Why didn't she just forward the email to big AAP and CC me and say, “Hey Dr. Hassink, there is a parent here, with a whole group of concerned parents behind her, that have questions I can't answer. Can you give her a response on these? Thanks. And Ginger, when those come in, let's have coffee and talk about it.”
Why does Kerry not put the burden back where it belongs, on Sandra. And if Sandra can't answer it, they why is Sandra still President of the AAP?
Well the answer really is because the parents are not the customers. Parents don't matter to the AAP. Health outcomes don't matter to the AAP. Corporations are the customers of the AAP. They pay the bills, not parents.
I have been ending my blogs for years calling for wise pediatricians to rise up and take back their profession. So I will flat out say this to them again... are you not sick of looking like an idiot in your office to your patients? Are you tired of getting blindsided by the smart ones who bring you research that the AAP and the rest of MediCo has never mentioned or kept from you? How long do you plan on having to defend the moronic things that Paul Offit teaches you to say?
Because while you might actually care about being able to have a defensible position on vaccination, Offit and DeStefano and crew don't have to. They never allow anyone into a position to question them. They send you out into battle with guns that don't work, and they don't care, because they never enter the line of fire themselves. You sick of being their cannon fodder yet?
When is enough going to be enough? Are you enjoying this battle against the parents of sick, disabled children? Are you still able to maintain the suspension of disbelief and pretend that the vaccine you administered didn't cause that child's seizure when the parent brought you both the VICP guidelines and the package insert that says that they do? How about when the family was eventually awarded compensation by the feds for vaccine induced seizures? Still able to look parents in the eye and say, “Your child's neurological symptoms are just a coincidence.” while you fail to even do a basic eval to see if the vaccine might be involved?
And legislators who are diving this attack... seriously! What is it that you are protecting? Are you just all about pharma checks and power dinners? You guys cannot be this sleazy... well not all of you. And the Democrats... that I don't get. Democrats attacking the families of disabled children... well that is a whole other blog in itself.
So to sum up, the exemption attack that took place in 17 states only survived in 2 states in which legislators were willing to lie, cheat and steal. Which oddly gives me a bit of confidence in our political system (something I never thought I would say.)
Look... doctors and politicians. The current disaster of a vaccine program is falling apart fast. Stop propping it up. You don't have to do much. All you have to do is stop participating in their vaccine promotional circus, stop the arm twisting in offices, stop firing patients, stop requiring them to sign self-incriminating forms, stop letting them try to sell you the idea that vaccinating all kids according to the CDC recommended avalanche makes you Jesus, and stop backing bills that attack families.
The next time you are approached, do what we teach parents to do when they feel like they are being bullied into vaccinating and don't want to deal with their pushy sales pitch. We tell them to say a polite, “No, thank you.” And if the pushers persist, we encourage them to again say a polite, Thanks, but no thanks, and then if the pushers still don't stop and the family starts to feel bad, we encourage them to say, “This is making me uncomfortable, let's move on to what we are here to discuss,” and then move on to the reason they are really there. Try it.
Doctors, if you feel bullied into becoming a vaccine bully, say a polite, “ No thank you,” and if they persist, say, “Yeah, I can't get really get away with that in my work,” and then move on to the topic you want to discuss with them. That is just setting good boundaries.
The criminal behavior that has destroyed the National Immunization Program, the lack of accountability that has allowed it to continue is out in the open, and the events of this year have only opened up more courts to us. The nightmare experiment of liability free vaccines is coming to an end. Just step back and let it happen.
Vaccination is not going to go away, the 1918 flu is not going to return, this country was just fine before the liability protection existed and it will be just fine when it goes away.
Let DeStefano and Boyle take their perp walk, let the system collapse and be reformed and reballanced, and start worrying about the individual health of your patients.
Stop letting you selves be used by the monsters that have made hundreds of thousands of children sick.