IMMUNOTOPIA.

I've been watching the following petitions a couples times a day for the past few days and the numbers of signatures continually creep up (except one drop that I think was likely a recording error on my part):

https://www.change.org/p/california-governor-stop-sb277-forced-vaccinations-to-attend-daycare-school-in-california

https://www.change.org/p/californians-against-sb277-tell-your-representatives-that-you-are-considering-moving-out-of-ca-if-personal-belief-exemptions-for-vaccinations-are-removed

https://www.change.org/p/richard-pan-we-call-on-california-state-senator-dr-richard-pan-to-resign-from-his-position-due-to-his-vested-interests-in-profiting-from-merck-glaxosmithkline-and-literally-dozens-of-pharmaceutical-companies-and-the-conflict-of-interest-this-causes

https://www.change.org/p/jerry-brown-nhf-demands-do-not-eliminate-vaccine-waivers-in-california-by-scott-tips

https://www.change.org/p/jerry-brown-veto-california-senate-bill-277-should-it-come-to-your-desk

If there is interference for some in signing these, it's not universally applied, whatever that might mean.

http://www.noozhawk.com/article/vaccines_assisted_suicide_among_hot_topics_supes_asked_to_weigh_in_on

I posted a comment I don't see now (I should have saved a copy so I could identify where I maybe went wrong, probably something about wanting to maintain a status quo of dis-health, or the Sherri Tenpenny recording was too off topic?). I don't know if the local paper does the moderation or diquss (or if some Gates bot can steal away one's digital voice) making "disquss" start to look like "dis" & "cuss" or "disgust" ... but many of the comments are good, obviously not moderated out, and the report goes into some detail of the Santa Barbara board discussion.

I want to note for Mr. or Ms. Science First and others that many California homeschoolers have their vaccine status monitored under many "homeschool" programs and have to file exemption forms also if they feel they should or want to opt out of a vaccine. There is some discussion about families looking into getting certified as a qualified tutor (I'm not clear on the title or the process, if it is in the reach of most)--the state is rather controlling of the "homeschool" process already--and at this point it appears to me this legislation gives no opt out option for some families, but to move from the state if one can, and will make California the most draconian vaccination state in the U.S.

Actually, "science", my understanding is that once it is law, non compliant parents can be jailed.
And I assume, jailed repeatedly until they comply?
how is this not "forced"?
There is no home schooling "out" because California law classes "homeschooling" as a "private school", covered by the same laws.

Hope you are up on all your adult immunizations, and of course the annual flu shot, science. Because there is already talk about forced adult vaccination next..

And that you are willing to roll up your sleeve for all the new shots that are in the pipeline, regardless of whether or not you think they are safe, because by then all you have left to say is "I thought it was ok for parents to be thrown in jail, but did not realize that next they could come for me too."

Yawn Mr. 'Science first'. You're really going to have to do better than that. I'll give you points for mentioning Jenny McCarthy, getting medical advice from the internet and use of the words 'hysteria' and 'nuttiness'. And of course extra points for the use of 'Science' as a singular entity (capitalized of course!)-- because 'Science' yeah! However I must deduct points from you for failing to mention Andrew Wakefield, and for not using the any of the following terms 'quack' 'pseudo-science' 'crank' or 'debunked'. And, well, not calling us 'anti-vaxxers' is just sloppy work on your part!! I will give you credit for throwing in the Kennedys for creativity and originality. However I still have to demote you back to skeptics school 101. Please return when you have been fully indoctrinated in how to properly malign and mock us. Great first effort though!!

Science First,
I suggest you talk to some physicians to see how badly their arms hurt from being twisted for the past several years. They are not exactly happy about being told how and what to prescribe for their patients and about being mandated to accept vaccines themselves. They are increasingly being rendered powerless by Pharma, the insurance industry, and government. So your 98% consensus among physicians is complete nonsense. Further, you are wrong about Californians having the option to homeschool to avoid this tyranny. Homeschoolers would come under the same mandate. But even if homeschoolers would be exempt, to force anyone to homeschool is to strip them of their civil right to freely move about and participate in society and would place undue hardship on parents who either desire to or need to work. You know, like parents who are both physicians, for example, and who do not want to vaccinate but who want their kids in school. Their kids have every right to be able to go anywhere they want to go. If you are so paranoid about this, then I suggest you stay home.

I am sending Senator Pan a note of support for his position. He is not putting a gun to your head to immunize, he is just making you home school your kids if you choose not to.

The irony of accusing him of being a conspiracy theorist is remarkable, considering the leap of nuttiness required to assume that 98% of all physicians are somehow shills for "big pharma" or "bid med" and are going against their hippocratic oath and recommending that children be immunized. Luckily, the vast majority of parents don't get their medical advice from Facebook posts, but rather from physicians who actually use science to make decisions, not unfounded hysteria promoted by playboy bunnies and Kennedies.

I want to share the quote at the top of this page today (it may change):

http://www.sb277.org/

"For no reason other than freedom, without prejudice on the pros and cons of various vaccinations both individually and on a broader statistical basis, no citizen should be made to get an injection of anything at the point of a gun. I absolutely oppose this legislation." - Chris Thompson, President Fullerton School District, Board of Trustees Fullerton, CA

http://www.fullertonsd.org/member/chris-thompson/#gsc.tab=0

He's probably not in the right senate district, but it would be nice to get someone like him in Pan's seat.

I just can't believe this bunch of clowns is in charge of disease control USA:-

"CDC’s ‘inconsistent’ lab practices threaten its credibility"
http://wtkr.com/2015/03/20/cdcs-inconsistent-lab-practices-threaten-its-credibility-report-says/

From above:-
(CDC Investigated by an external agency)
"One incident occurred in June when dozens of employees in a bioterrorism lab working with the deadly anthrax virus, were at risk because of a failure to properly follow sterilization techniques. The head of that lab resigned after the incident.

This followed a May incident in which avian influenza samples, thought to not be dangerous, were unintentionally mixed with the deadly H5N1 influenza virus and then shipped to a USDA lab.

Then in December, with the advisory group already working to reduce lab safety risks and improve the culture of safety, employees in the Ebola lab were potentially exposed to that virus when a technician mistakenly transported the wrong specimens from a high-level lab to a lower-level lab."

Thank you Ginger Taylor and Dr Andrew Wakefield for exposing this incompetence and corruption. I hope Senator Pan has the grace to resign before he is thrown out of office.

Medical tyranny means never having to say no to your doctor or the government. You won't have a choice but to submit.

Whether you're pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine, no one should be forcing you to submit to medical procedures without your consent.

If philosophical, religious and medical vaccine exemptions are outlawed, you will not have any recourse when they come to give you any and all of the many vaccines already in use—as well as the 300 vaccines that are in the FDA-approval pipeline. And this applies to you, as well as your children.

Get involved and stand up to this abuse of power.

Dr. Wakefield is always so polite.

Diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to "go to well.."
in such a way, that they look forward to the trip.

In North Carolina, there are 4 talking heads sponsoring a bill to take away religious exemptions, a state that does not have a philosophical exemption.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article15393977.html

One of them, Tarte added that “the God I know doesn’t want children to die unnecessarily.”

I'm pretty sure a caring god in any religion would expect any human to take steps to improve safety when the simplest changes are available to make it so, but the CDC certainly has chosen to ignore such pathways of benevolent kindness, having not altered the diptheria/tetanus/pertussus shot by 2 months to reduce the risk of asthma in boys by 50%, and by having ignored the increased risk of autism to African American boys who get the MMR before the age of 3. With one official statement, that horrific bit of news could have been corrected and lives saved over the past 13 years.

It's kind of like how the King of England and persecution by the Anglican church of the puritan/separatists movement drove a certain set of Puritans and Pilgrims across the ocean to escape the hierarchical corruption in the Church of England and hence, started the creation of the United States. Tarte seems to have declared his own version of the Act of Supremacy of 1534: "By the Act of Supremacy in 1534, King Henry VIII had taken control of the Church in his country away from the Pope . . . The Church of England was the official and only church in England. Everybody belonged to it, whether they wanted to or not.. .
Because it was an extension of the government, the English church was as subject to political abuse and favoritism as any other governmental agency. . .
In his biography of John Robinson entitled The Pilgrim Way, Robert Merrill Bartlett summarized the problems which led to the rise of Puritanism in England as being "the tyranny of the hierarchy, the indolence of the clergy, and the lethargy of the laity". . . The initial impetus for the Puritan movement came from a highly enlightened area of England, and the movement was noted from the beginning for its intellectual substance. Dr. Bartlett wrote of the
Puritans:
They were part of the intellectual and cultural ferment of the Elizabethan period. They were close to the amenities of Lincoln, Boston, York, and within the arc of influence that emanated from Cambridge [University]. . They were substantial thinkers, and their contribution was not
only religious and intellectual but of literary significance as well. . These Puritans marshaled a
mighty brain trust. Their movement was one of the intellectually best equipped in history; and they prevailed in their reformation through the force of their logic expressed in dynamic Elizabethan English.
As in any movement bent on major social change, Puritans differed among themselves about the degree of change that was necessary and what it would take to effect that change. They were all radical, of course; that's the nature of any movement that seeks change. But some were more radical
than others. "

You can see how Tarte and Pan and others would just hate to think that the major intellectual minds of our current time may also be the same people tied closely to religious freedom ideology and might be aware of how corruption might be influencing policy in government and therefore affecting religious freedom. The separatists did not think it was up to politicians to determine how everyone should practice Christianity, and neither should modern Christians, or anyone of any other faith or spiritual belief in this country.

Maybe Tarte and Pan, etc were the kind of kids in school who fell asleep during history, and since they didn't learn it, they are doomed to cause the same problems today as the pilgrams, puritans, and separatists suffered through, and mistakes the founders of our constitution tried to take into account when making the freedom of religious part of our country.

http://www.pilgrimhallmuseum.org/ap_religion.htm
http://www.pilgrimhallmuseum.org/pdf/Pilgrim_Puritan_A_Delicate_Distinction.pdf

Oh yeah, interesting that wikipedia doesn't have a specific listing about the pilgrims that came to this land mass on the Mayflower. "Pilgram" will get you the general definition, but type "pilgrims" in and see if you get anywhere. Slight missing chunk of history on a commonly used term in a word search.

Thank you, Ginger, and thank you Dr. Wakefield!

Does anyone else think that politicians are selling out for what is relatively little money to a huge corporation? Or could it be that bribe money (or promises for future employment) is being artfully hidden?

Dr. Richard Pan is clearly desperate and does not like all the attention lately on his "contributors" and clear conflict of interest. Dr. Pan has made his bed and now he has to lie in it. The truth hurts. Keep up the pressure.

Two retractions are called for:

First, the tweet.

Then the bill.

These days its a game of spot the non pharma shill..very rear to find..

Thanks Ginger vg

MMR RIP