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Keep-calm-and-drink-kool-aid-15If you or your loved one were severely injured by a product, and you won a settlement to compensate for the injury, would you then become a spokesperson for that product? 

Let's make this concrete.  Say your loving wife took Vioxx for pain. Her doctor prescribed Vioxx with the promise of relieving her back pain and allowing her to move about more easily. She was thrilled. You were encouraged. And then your vibrant, beautiful wife of 24 years had a stroke, lost her ability to walk, speak, hold you, whisper your name.  Fast forward, and you've won a large settlement for her injuries. And then you go on TV and tell your friends and neighbors that what happened to your wife is a rare event and that they should absolutely use Vioxx for their pain.

Odd yes?

Meet Jim Schutte, who is now guardian as well as husband to Carolyn Schutte, who suffered serious injury from routine travel vaccinations for a trip to Africa.   Like American infants, Carolyn received multiple vaccines at the same visit.  And now her husband, her legal guardian, is telling others that vaccines are safe and that the risk is minimal.

Odd, yes?

EXCELSIOR SPRINGS, MO (KCTV) - HERE

An Excelsior Springs man has been awarded $7.4 million because his wife was left disabled by at least one of the vaccines she took before a trip.

On June 22, 2011, Carolyn Schutte went to the Clay County Public Health Center in Liberty for a round of shots. She was preparing for a trip to Africa and received vaccinations for various diseases, including tetanus, Hepatitis A and B, and typhoid. Two days later, she was debilitated with permanent brain damage caused by encephalopathy.

"The active lifestyle that we had before is over," said Jim Schutte, Carolyn Schutte's husband and now her guardian. "It's gone. We just have to make due with what's left."

The couple were once avid travelers.

Now, Jim Schutte is homebound, assisting with his wife's around-the-clock care.

"I provide most of her care," Schutte said, "But I can't do it 24 hours a day, so I have to have somebody coming in here and helping. It gets very expensive very quickly. It costs a lot more than you might think."

His wife, who was once the mayor of Excelsior Springs, needs a hydration tube and specially prepared food. She can't walk. She is paralyzed on one side. The only words she can manage are 'yes' and 'no.' But she seems to he able to comprehend everything around her.

"When I talk to her about private jokes that we had shared, she always laughs," Schutte said. "She calls for me in the evening. She wants me to come up and hold hands with her, and so we do that from about 7:30 until she's ready for bed."

Despite all the difficulties, Jim Schutte remains a passionate advocate for vaccinations.

"What happened to Carolyn is a rarity," Schutte said. "It's a freak of nature. It happens occasionally. But the chances of it happening to you are minimal compared to the risks of actually contracting the diseases you are being vaccinated against."

He's not just talking internet research. He holds a doctorate in human growth development and had done post-doctoral work in biomedical research.

One of his fears is that his wife's rare reaction to a vaccine will further fuel the anti-vaccination movement that he is so strongly against.

"I think people are taking anecdotal situations like Carolyn's and making it into something it is not," Schutte said.

Read more: http://www.kctv5.com/story/28183081/feds-give-family-74-million-over-disabling-vaccines#ixzz3UrqFlpb2

Comments

For Nate

Nate

There are plenty of links on the page.

Nate

Is there a source confirming that the cause of the development in Mr. Schutte's wife was vaccines? I've yet to find a source list for this page and I'd like to do some digging myself.

Angus Files

One in the millions compensated in the vaccine wasteland.

MMR RIP

Steve

Apparently there is no reality check strong enough for Jim Schutte. This may be one of the most mind-boggling collections of quotes I have ever seen. Please. Jim. stop - just stop.

billie joe

So I don't quite understand... and I don't like to judge... but I wonder if he just thinks that collateral damage is ok??? I am not saying the thinks his wife was worth the sacrifice, but to some that might be the message he is putting forth. I wish he could clarify.

I wonder if he is aware of the CDC protocol on the website for those who should and shouldn't have vaccines? Did the doctor follow those? Everyone should be tested for allergies to ingredeitns before they are given. Then so many injuries won't occur. Blessing to them.

Laura Hayes

Thank you, Wayne Rohde, for your excellent comments and break down of the "compensation" package.

Now, to think of the millions who haven't been "compensated" for what they've endured thanks to our nation's dangerous and untested vaccine program. What a frightening figure that would be. It would put our national debt figure to shame.

Holly Riley

How many anecdotes does it take before you call it an epidemic?

nhokkanen

Carolyn Schutte's thoughts about her vaccine injury are what matters, not her husband's sour-grapes rationalizations.

He communicates about her, but does he truly speak for her?

Wayne Rohde

I detest the manner and methods of the main stream media reporting the vaccine compensation cases by leading the story about the money instead of the devastating vaccine injury. Age of Autism leads the correct way. About the injury.

The MSM story leads with $ 7.4 million dollars awarded. Let's break this down to what was ACTUALLY awarded.
1. $ 250,000.00 in pain and suffering. The is capped by statute. I highlight the need to expand this cap to $ 1 million in my book to bring it current with other federal court systems.
2. $1,754,416.49 in lost future earnings. There is an established formula to calculate future earnings based upon previous employment, education, and geographical location.
3. $ 169,089.65 for first year seed money to pay for future medical care. This money cannot be used for husband or other family needs.
4. $ 88,598.50 for past unreimbursable medical expenses.

So where did the $7.4 million award come from? Another part of the compensation that was not reported is the annuity that will cover future medical care excluding the first year seed money already declared and awarded. But this is where the funny business begins for our HHS and DOJ. And a potential time bomb for the petitioner.

Carolyn Schutte does not receive the annuity up front. The annuity is purchased by HHS at a sizable discount (present value). According to the news reports, the life of the annuity is 20 years with a potential value of $5.6 million (add upfront award to this amount = $7.4 M) What happens if she lives longer than 20 years? Who covers her medical expenses then? Probably the taxpayers with medicaid/medicare or SSI disability if the money runs out. This is the case with so many annuities today awarded by HHS in the NVICP. What happens if she passes away in 5 or 6 years? What happens if the insurance company that sold the annuity to HHS goes out of business? Tick Tick Tick

Birgit Calhoun

It may be that Schutte feels guilty about something and is wanting to justify their choices whatever they may be. But my first thought was that the compensation deal included a clause where he was required to state his support of vaccination, sort of the reverse of a stipulation of not being able to comment on anything having to do with a settlement.

Jeannette Bishop

I've been listening to "Vaccine World Summit" interviews accessed through this link:

http://www.vaccineworldsummit.com

Dr. Humphries highlights a study that mathmatically predicted on the two-vaccine schedule that major outbreaks could begin starting just about now:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19324753
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/276/1664/2071.long

"For longer periods of waning immunity the dynamics are more pronounced: for at least 20 years, the levels of infection drop mimicking the standard SEIR results; however, at much longer times, large-scale epidemics can arise with the first substantial epidemic not arising until 52 years after the vaccination programme was begun (figure 4e)."

So we're looking at an industry who had about a five years advance warning that we could see this type of outbreak (and maybe they are worried about bigger ones to come? or are they worried about people deciding to stop fighting nature and start working with it on this disease?), and for how many years now have they had feedback that they are disabling many children in their attempt to prevent what exactly?

John Stone

Bayaeremom

I was responding to the link provided by "Reader" and comments reported on 23 February:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/28183081/feds-give-family-74-million-over-disabling-vaccines Feds give family $7.4 million over disabling vaccines Posted: Feb 23, 2015 11:47 PM PST Updated: Feb 24, 2015 4:30 PM PST

By Betsy Webster, News Reporter By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager

"...Because Carolyn Schutte received multiple vaccinations at once, no one knows which vaccine caused her negative reaction. Jim Schutte does wonder whether part of her reaction came as a result of having multiple vaccines at once. He says the Centers for Disease Control have not addressed the topic, but he reasons that since vaccines trigger an immune response, having multiple vaccines administered at one time could put a greater strain on the immune system. It's with that reasoning that his grandson is getting his childhood vaccinations in spaced out doses, just in case his logic holds up."

cia parker

But isn't that just what nearly everyone says? Even Kennedy says that, except for the mercury thing, vaccines are necessary and safe and he got his children all of them. Everyone who, for whatever reason, wants to keep a place at the establishment table for himself, will limit his criticism of vaccines just to one or two points, but will still defend the basic concept as necessary and indispensable. I was reading articles at VaxTruth last night, and was struck by the difference in discourse. There the childhood diseases, including measles, mumps, chickenpox, and pertussis, are considered much less dangerous than the vaccines for them, and positively beneficial for the vast majority to get naturally.

The Polings were put under a gag order: in return for the millions they got for having proven that Hannah's autism was caused by the vaccines she got, they had to promise not to talk about it to anyone. There may be a variation on this here as well.

Bayareamom

@John Stone:

You stated, "...but I think it is still troubling that the message has changed."


I tried finding any news media article, etc., wherein his message had 'changed, but could find nothing at all. HAS his message changed, or do you feel he's been leaned on?

It wouldn't surprise me if he has been leaned on - his is a rather high profile case, more so than many others. I also suspect his deflection of the vaccine issue may be the result, in part anyway, as a sort of elimination of whatever guilt may be associated with his poor wife's demise. I went through the same emotional issues after our son's injuries. Still do somewhat to this day...

Jenny

How horrible for this family. How many families are buckling under similar circumstances that no one knows about because the symptoms come on more slowly, and are therefore never recognized and compensated. Maybe in a few years, if his children have lost control of his grandbaby's shots, we'll hear from him again. I wonder what the health agency that gave her the vaccines says about the situation. Maybe should reach out to them and talk about biomedical solutions that could be of help to his wife, just start mailing things to him. He'll eventually find out who his real friends are, if he was pressured to limit his public disclosures. Who knows, maybe saying his grandchildren were being selectively vaccinated violated some agreement he had. If we can't get rid of the vaccine court, we should be pressing for it to be illegal for that court to censor a victim's right to free speech. Its unconstitutional.

Also, I feel like 4 is an important number that keeps coming up.
If something is a live vaccine, it seems like it should not be in a combo application at all, whether in one syringe or more than one. And it should be spread out by how much time before a second live shot or booster should/could be given.
And if one is getting more than one combo shot, whether in one syringe or not, it sure better not excede 3. Seems like you get to 4 and all bets are off, that the consequences are more extreme and faster coming on. Like when they throw the chickenpox vaccine on top of the MMR.

That is, if one is brave enough to know anything about vaccine adverse reactions and still get even one of them.

Bob Moffit, I agree, what an excellent comparison! And in the construction business, I don't think anyone is surprised anymore at corruption in the permitting and inspection, shortcuts with cheap lowgrade cement, weak steel, yada yadda yadda. But we know it's wrong and we all hope and expect that the corruption will be addressed at whatever level it is found. And the only people who deny it are the ones responsible for the problem! Can you imagine if vaccine injury was investigated by police and detectives as an assault? If the privatization of prisons demands they be filled to 90% capacity, they would have no trouble finding enough corrupt scientists, doctors, lobbyists, and officials to get them to 80%, with the remaining 10% coming from the rest of the general public. Capitol Hill is kind of like a prison full of criminals, we've got them rounded up in one spot, but we were dumb enough to give them microphones, cameras, and voting rights. If you ask me, with today's technology, are politicians kind of a needless level of a democracy now? Maybe 200 years ago, with transportation and communication as lacking as it was, maybe they were necessary. But with the internet and postal system, why isn't everything by referendum now?

Anyway, I hope that our country is never unfortunate enough to get a special construction site accident court established, because people suddenly will be suffering from hallucinations about flying plywood and their children will be taken away until the crazy claimants can be cured of their Munchhausen disease, bandages soaked with blood ignored on the way to Bellview, smelling salts at the ready.

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Off topic - Are we possibly ignoring the man behind the green curtain? Why now? Why Why Why allll the fear mongering and hype and sudden bills cropping up all over the place this year. Can it all be because of Dr. Thompson's recent revelations? Or is it just part of something else going on. He's one man - and the general public understands now how the government views, censors, and handles whistleblowers. I keep wondering if there is something else on the horizon, that combined with Thompson could push the lobbying into overdrive - could this maybe be a deliberate move to drive safe vaccination advocates and vaccination freedom advocates into massive efforts that could distract them from something else going on? Maybe keep them focused on one part of the problem while another slips under the radar. That maybe the vaccine apologists need one last push to get what they can because something else is going to happen and they need to improve their position from which to negotiate down when shit hits the fan?

When are the next cohort figures coming out? Is it possible that not enough pregnant women & babies got the flu shots and that the damage from the flu vaccines pushes given to pregnant women and infants and increases in aluminum was not enough to erase a possible significant statistical difference in stats from when thimerosal was removed from the Hep B? Is it possible they've BEEN available for a while but not disclosed and were found in the FOIA stuff collected as a result of Hooker/Thompson?

Linda1

My first reaction to this article was anger at Mr. Schutte. But I'm thinking too that we really don't know if his statements were taken out of context in order to protect the products that caused the injury. The media does that all the time. According to the article, Mrs. Schutte was mayor of her town - someone well known to the community so a difficult case to sweep under the rug.

John Stone

Hera

I certainly considered that before commenting but I think it is still troubling that the message has changed. He may be subject to contradictory thoughts but also he may have been leant on.

Hera

John;
it may be possible that his story is being edited by others. After all he does not have control over how what he actually says is reported in the newspapers.

I do feel for him, having realized that he has been caring for his wife for years, and wonder if David Taylors very kind and thoughtful comment was right.

At the very least, by allowing his story to become news, people are having to acknowledge the existence of life changing vaccine injury in adults.

John Stone

Reader

Thanks for pointing that out. It is certainly very troubling that Jim Schutte was saying something entirely different less than a month ago.

John Stone

The first thing I thought about this story was its self-centeredness: the assertion by Jim Schutte that their case is genuine but no one else's is. The "anti-vaccine" movement is made up of people who vaccinated. What happened was not a freak of nature: Jim Schutte can go to the VAERS database and look up by now nearly half-a-million reported events in the US over the last 25 years (and that is based on spontaneous reports, not active monitoring). We all convinced ourselves at some point that benefits outweighed the risks - it was presented as an intellectual proposition - but goodness there are lots of us now, and no one is really counting.

The Schutte's were the lucky unlucky ones: Carolyn's case was recognised - she didn't even have to have the vaccines to go to school or keep her job. Meanwhile, it is rather graceless of her husband to turn round and effectively sneer at the rest of us.

Reader

It's unfair and a huge disappointment that this has been omitted:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/28183081/feds-give-family-74-million-over-disabling-vaccines

Feds give family $7.4 million over disabling vaccines

Posted: Feb 23, 2015 11:47 PM PST Updated: Feb 24, 2015 4:30 PM PST
By Betsy Webster, News Reporter
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager

...Because Carolyn Schutte received multiple vaccinations at once, no one knows which vaccine caused her negative reaction.

Jim Schutte does wonder whether part of her reaction came as a result of having multiple vaccines at once. He says the Centers for Disease Control have not addressed the topic, but he reasons that since vaccines trigger an immune response, having multiple vaccines administered at one time could put a greater strain on the immune system. It's with that reasoning that his grandson is getting his childhood vaccinations in spaced out doses, just in case his logic holds up.

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Laura Hayes

I, too, found this story very odd when I read about it.

Great comment, Bob Moffitt. Excellent comparison.

Vaccine injuries and deaths are anything but rare. It's getting harder and harder to squash that fact down.

@Who is

Here, Rappaport and Infowars will have the balls to cover it.

Benedetta

I read about this on another website.

And thank you for putting this article up on "Age of Autism" and giving it this title.

Cause I got this surreal feeling - Here is a man who has lost his wife and well maybe it was all the money he won is the reason he is okay with everything.

Lots of us have had our vaccine injuries and the court is too hard even for a table injury; or was.

I have till this Fall untill our last vaccine injury three year limit is up. I am not sure if I should bother with it or not.

But reading this article other than here it lures you to sleep like a ship that is sinking - with no boats - let us just play music and stay calm- or the last twin towers - some one over the intercom encouraging everyone to stay put.

Who is William Thompson ?

The stories Google\FaecesBook plan to hide away :

California Infant Dies after 8 Vaccines, Family Gets Him Back from Hospital Cremated
Augustina Ursino
February 26 2015
Parents in California are distraught after losing their infant son after being vaccinated. He died in his sleep and was taken to the hospital already deceased. Hospital staff ruled his death as sudden infant death syndrome. The couple was told an autopsy was required to be performed on their son.

After returning home, waiting to get an update, they never received one. Numerous phone calls were made to get answers. Weeks went by. Finally, they received verbal confirmation and told their son was best not to be seen prior to being cremated, because of the condition he was in. Once cremated, they could pick up the remains of their child from the crematory. They were not given the chance to say their goodbyes.

More than one year and four months have passed and the family has yet to receive his autopsy report. It turns out their son was given a vaccine not approved for his age and an extra dose of the hepatitis B vaccine that he shouldn’t have received until later on.

This harrowing story is a reminder that vaccines can be lethal. Parents shall maintain the rights to choose what medical interventions they feel are safe for their child. After all, they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

Crystal Downing shares with us what happened to her son Matthew, in hopes to remind parents to research vaccines before offering their child to be injected with whatever the doctor says.

Hera

The article mentions he has a degree in biomedical research. I wonder if his work involves vaccines in any way?

Very sorry for his wife, and all she has lost.

patricia

'Anecdotal, a rarity, a freak of nature.....where has this good and caring Dr Schutte been living these past few years I wonder......in his own small world I estimate.

He is a scientist. He cannot betray his past career, his whole life would become questionable.

David Taylor

First, my heart goes out to Mr. Schutte and his once vibrant wife. I tweeted this story when it first appeared. To see the before and after pictures--it's the kind of devastation that forces one to look away.

Mr. Schutte's reaction is not that uncommon among parents with vaccine injured children. The "rare" reaction and "I still believe in our wonderful vaccine program" are psychological defense mechanisms to relieve the heavy guilt of self blame.

We've all encountered parents who insist their child with regressive autism post vaccination were actually "born that way," therefore relieving the parent of the guilt that comes with having taken the child to that well baby visit and helped hold it down while the deed was done.

Mr. Schutte is probably also probably fighting off "survivor syndrome"--that feeling of having done something wrong since you survived and the other didn't.

I imagine that Mr. Schutte was a devout worshiper at the Church of the Immaculate Vaccine before this incident. The chains of creed are some of the hardest to break free of.

May the angels of mercy help them both through this tragedy.

John Stone

Who is William Thompson?

I remember looking into this over the Malcolm Brabant business and even the manufacturers seemed to admit that having the yellow fever vaccine over the age 60 was pretty much a no-no. I don't know what you do if you live in a yellow fever area, but if you live in Oregon and you are over 60 the best idea would be not to go anywhere near where they have yellow fever.

Who is William Thompson ?

March 19, 2015 01:21pm ET 28 3 13

A woman in Oregon who received the yellow fever vaccine developed a rare and ultimately fatal reaction to the shot, according to a new report of the case.

The woman, who was in her 60s, was previously healthy and received the yellow fever vaccine before a trip she was planning to take to South America, according to the report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But six days after receiving the shot, she went to the emergency room with vomiting, diarrhea and shortness of breath.

Ten hours after she was admitted to the hospital, her condition worsened, and she was put on a ventilator. She developed heart damage and kidney failure, and died after three days in the hospital, according to the report.
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I think Mr Schutte is getting the words "rare" & "censored" confused .

Bob Moffitt

"What happened to Carolyn is a rarity," Schutte said. "It's a freak of nature. It happens occasionally...."

This week .. in NYC .. a young woman was struck in the head by a slab of plywood that had blown off the upper level of a nearby high-rise building under construction .. killing her.

To me .. I would describe this woman's tragedy as a "rare" event .. it happens occasionally .. yet .. everytime it does .. there are swarms of building inspectors going over the construction site seeking those persons responsible for failing to secure their materials .. at the same time .. carefully examining all previous claims of negligence against that particular construction company .. seeking a pattern of carelessness or recklessness .. which will determine whether or not that particular company will be given license to operate in NYC anytime in the future.

Will the same "regulatory" oversight of the vaccine manufacturers involved in Ms Schutte's case be as diligent .. including swarms of investigators .. seeking a pattern of carelessness or recklessness .. examining the manufacturing process and plants involved .. including those who actually administered the vaccines .. and .. all previous .. similar claims of injury .. regarding the vaccines involved .. as that being given the construction site?

If nothing else .. shouldn't the public be made aware of Ms Schutte's vaccine injury as it was regarding the poor woman in NYC?

After all .. both injuries are "rare" .. both caused great harm and suffering .. yet .. only the construction site injury was given great media attention. Perhaps vaccine injuries would not be considered "rare" if they were to receive the same media attention as a construction site death .. or .. deaths and injuries due to faulty ignition switches on millions of cars.

In any event .. I would seriously disagree with Mr. Schutte's description his wife's vaccine injury was a "freak of nature" .. it was not .. because .. it was not "caused" by "nature" .. such as "high winds" blowing unsecured materials from a high-rise under construction .. it was "caused" by a man-made .. unavoidably unsafe product .. that proved to be extremely harmful to his wife .. and .. we ought not just "move along" without making every effort to assure the same tragedy does not happen to anyone else.


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