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War of the WorldsBy Cathy Jameson

121 cases of the measles

121 cases of the measles that included recovery

121 cases of the measles with no deaths reported

121 cases of the measles that sent our country into a tailspin. 

I honestly thought the onslaught of measles articles would have subsided by now.  But we’re going into month two of measles mania. 

The news coverage hasn’t helped to change the subject nor to reduce the level of anxiety too many are experiencing.  Instead of properly reporting on what’s usually a temporary illness, the press took what could have been a simple FYI (Measles has been spotted), to using full-on fear tactics (We’re all gonna die), to encouraging the public to turn on each other (Unvaccinated?  Round ‘em up, Nazi-Germany style!).

Pre-measles mania, for the most part, we worked together.  Sure we had differences with others and didn’t always see eye-to-eye on every issue, but we respected each other’s points of view.  That included vaccine choice.  But as the measles mania grew, and as the media and the government bodies that oversee and benefit from the US vaccine program took every chance they could to paint a pretty picture about vaccines, those choosing not to vaccinate quickly became the enemy. 

In early December, before the measles was a daily headline, the majority of the public wasn’t vocal that some folks were unvaccinated.  Yes, pro-vaccine groups took it upon themselves to viciously attack parents in the past when vaccine stories occasionally surfaced, but the public didn’t.  The public didn’t fear the unvaccinated kid next door.  They didn’t fear their niece who was up-to-date on shots.  They didn’t know if their boss or co-worker, or that stranger in line ahead of them at the grocery store was unvaccinated.  They wouldn’t even think to ask the city bus driver if he’d gotten boosters at his physical last year or not either.  But now?  Oh, boy.  Everyone’s a suspect.  And the public has been groomed to respond with venom to anyone stating that they are a vaccine choice proponent. 

To vaccinate or to not vaccinate is a private decision.  That decision is usually based on an individual’s health care needs, not on illogical fear.  Sadly, since the latest measles mania began, fear is overriding logic.  And it’s fueling an unnecessary and an unfortunate divide.  In two short months, it’s become okay to shame someone who does not vaccinate.  It’s okay to bully them, to belittle them, and to be ready to turn them in. 

Forced vaccinations, despite being contradictory to one’s health and medical issues, are also being discussed, debated and encouraged.  To force an unnecessary medical procedure on someone is wrong.  It goes against one of the principles that our country was founded – individual liberty.  But God help us.  I fear that that liberty and the freedom to make our own health care choices, are dangerously close to being taken away.

Cathy Jameson is a Contributing Editor of Age of Autism. 

Comments

Cherry Sperlin Misra

Re the little boy with leukemia, how bizarre is it that his doctors have allowed him to go to school? Dont they know that there are plenty of pathogenic microorganisms for which we have no vaccines.? Dont they know that not all individuals mount an immune response after a vaccine?

Bayareamom

@David Burd:

That's not 'my' list; it's one compiled by Leslie Manookian back in 2013 (if memory serves). I also noted that Sherri Tenpenny's name isn't on that list. I may write Leslie and ask her to update it...

Thanks.

LInda L.

Thank you again to bayareamom and also to David M Burd for your information and equally important, your support.

david m burd

Bayareamom,

Two (2) more distinguished docs you can add your list:

Dr. Donald Miller, Jr. Seattle, Washington - Cardiac surgeon (ret.) and author of articles citing dangers of vaccines,

Dr. Matt Irwin - Family Doc; Alexandria, VA, - also author of extensive paper condemning the doctrine of Hiv causing Aids.

Bayareamom

@Linda L.:

You may want to show this LIST of concerned physicians and scientists re vaccines. I just found this over at Leslie Manookian's website, "The Greater Good."

Speaking to them about this documentary wouldn't be such a bad thing, either!

http://www.greatergoodmovie.org/news-views/doctors-and-scientists-with-concerns-about-vaccines/

LIST:

Doctors and Scientists with Concerns About Vaccines

Shizuo Akira, MD, PhD

David Amaral, PhD, MIND Institute, UC-Davis

François-Jérôme Authier, Professor, PhD

David Ayoub, MD, Radiologist

Anne-Catherine Bachoud-Levia, PhD

Toni Bark, MD

David S. Baskin, PhD

Denis Bedoret, PhD

Russell Blaylock, MD, CCN, former clinical assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, MS. and is currently a visiting professor of biology at Belhaven University, Jackson, MI

T. Bobrowicz, PhD

Kenneth Bock, MD

Marie-Françoise Boissea, PhD

Subbarao Bondada, PhD

Jeff Bradstreet, MD

Pierre Brugierese, PhD

Julie Buckley, MD

Thomas Burbacher, MD

Fabrice Bureau, PhD

Rashid Buttar, DO, FAAPM, FACAM, FAAIM

Stephanie F. Cave, MS, MD, FAAFP

E. Cernichiari, PhD

Pierre Cesaroa, PhD

Lakshman Chelvarajan

T. Chen, PhD

Xavier Chevalierf, PhD

Shiv Chopra, MSc, PhD

Stephanie Christner, DO

T. Clarkson, PhD

John Barthelow Classen, MD

Cevayir Coban, PhD

Maryline Couettea

Andy Cutler, PhD (research chemist)

Jeffrey Dach, MD

Josep Dalmau, MD, PhD

Vicky DeBold, PhD, RN

Jamie Deckoff-Jones, MD

Christophe J Desmet, PhD

Mary Catherine DeSoto, PhD

Richard Deth, PhD

J.G. Dórea, PhD

Peter Doshi, PhD Johns Hopkins School of Medicine

M. Duszczyk, PhD

Steven Edelson, MD, Director of the Autism Research Institute in San Diego

Mayer Eisenstein, MD

(The late) Dr. Frank Engley

Håkan Eriksson, PhD

Christopher Exley, PhD

Carl Feinstein, MD

Peter Fletcher, PhD, former Chief Scientific Officer, at the UK Department of Health

Lisa Freund, PhD

Paula A. Garay, PhD

Robert F. Garry, PhD

Thomas V. Getchell, PhD

Romain K. Gherardi, Professor, head of the department of Histology, Henri Mondor hospital, Paris, Neuropathologic and Clinical activities at the Neuromuscular Disease Reference Center, and is coordinator of the Department of Neurosciences INSERM

Beatrice Golomb, PhD, MD

Jay Gordon, MD

K.S. Grant, PhD

John Green, MD

Boyd Haley, PhD

Richard Halvorsen, MD

Diane Harper, MD, MPH, MS

(The late) Bernadine Healy, MD

Martha Herbert, MD, PhD, Professor of neurology at Harvard Medical

Laura Hewitson, PhD

Robert T. Hitlan, PhD

Amy Holmes, MD

Brian Hooker, PhD

Mady Hornig, PhD

Suzanne Humphries, MD

Philip Incao, MD

Ken J Ishii, PhD

Emmanuel Ittie, PhD

Dr. Jill James, PhD

Bryan Jepson, MD

Jerry Kartzinel, MD

Matthew S. Kayser, MD

Marcel Kinsbourne, PhD

Kouji Kobiyama, PhD

Sheldon B. Korones, MD

Arthur Krigsman, MD

Pierre Lekeux, PhD

A. Lerner, PhD

N. Liberato, PhD

S.X. Lin, PhD

Andrew D. Livingston, PhD

Yushu Liu, PhD

Brian J. Lopresti, PhD

Kurt M. Lucin, PhD

Patrick Maisona, PhD

M. D. Majewska, PhD

Jennifer Margulia, PhD

Thomas Marichal, PhD

N. Scott Mason, PhD

A. Kimberley McAllister, PhD

Jaquelyn McCandless, MD

Susan McCreadie, MD

(The late)Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, MD

(The late) John Menkes, MD, Former head of pediatric neurology at UCLA Medical School. Menkes was also director of pediatric neurology at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. In addition, he was a member of the Forum for Vaccine Safety with the National Institute of Medicine.

Joseph Mercola, DO

Claire Mesnil, PhD

K. Meyza, PhD

S. Midha, PhD

P. Mierzejewski, PhD

Elizabeth Mumper, MD, Associate professor of clinical pediatrics at the University of Virginia

Devi S. Nambudripod, MD

Meryl Nass, MD

C. Nelson, PhD

E. Newell, PhD

Raymond Obomsawin, MSc, PhD

Tetyana Obukhanych, PhD

Keiichi Ohata, PhD

M. Olczak, PhD

Dr. Mehmet Oz

Larry Palevsky, MD

Elodie Passeria, PhD

Michael S. Petrik, PhD

Jon Poling, MD

Diana Popa, PhD

Massroor Pourcyrous, MD

(The late) Bernard Rimland, MD

Aviva Jill Romm, MD

Catherine Sabatel, PhD

E. M. Sajdel-Sulkowska, PhD

Bob Sears, MD

Martyn A. Sharpe, PhD

Chris Shaw, Professor, PhD

DD Shen, PhD

K. Vijendra Singh, PhD

Yehuda Shoenfeld, MD, FRCP

Peter Siesjö, PhD

Ken Stoller, MD

Carol Stott, PhD

Arnold J. Stromberg, PhD

Z. L. Sulkowski, PhD

Louise Swarbrick, PhD

Rena C. Tabata, PhD

Sherri Tenpenny, DO

Jaime Tomko, PhD

Lucija Tomljenovic, PhD

Anju Usman, MD

Eva Vanamee, PhD

Chiara Villac, PhD

John Walker-Smith, Professor

Judy Wilyman, PhD candidate

Tony Wyss-Coray, PhD

Margaret C. Wong, PhD

V.C. Yang, PhD

Amy Yasko, MD

Edward Yazbak, MD

Judy Van de Water, PhD, Immunology, UC Davis

Chiara Villac, PhD

Walter Zahorodny, PhD, Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey

A. M. Zavacki, PhD

LInda L.

@Bayareamom
Thank you very much for the info. I need source information for my representatives. The issue is no longer vaccination, but parental and individual choice. Thank you for helping me.

Linda1

Bayareamom,
I knew there had to be a connection between Krawitt and Pharma. Filling a 7 year old's head with fear of measles for the purpose of using him as a political prop, in this case a child suffering from the physical and psychological trauma of leukemia no less, is extreme child abuse.

And of course, while the focus is on measles, no one has the sense to ask, why do so many little kids now have leukemia? Measles infection in the 1950s was mild for the great majority and in those days no one was concerned about measles being a threat to immune suppressed children because immune suppressed children were rare.

Bayareamom

"I don't know the precise basis of Bob's calculation but I don't have your faith in the CDC that 43% undeclared cases are unvaccinated: they would surely tell you this with alacrity if they were. Also, it may be mentioned that infants that are too young to be vaccinated have had their maternal anti-bodies destroyed by the vaccine program. Meanwhile, these same infants - who are too young to benefit from the sites and adventures of Disneyland - have been brought there where they may be exposed to risk (and would be even with full vaccination status for everybody)..."

"The reality is that the vaccine program is a messy business, and is neither as safe or effective as the propaganda would have us believe. And the more it fails the shriller the shills get."


Completely agree with the above statements by John. I don't trust the CDC as far as I can throw them. Why on Earth anyone would believe anything this institution has to say is beyond me...

Jenny Allan

Good try Julie!! But the way the CDC presented the Disney measles cases is an excellent example of how data can be pulled about to misrepresent what's REALLY happening.
Let's do it another way. (Julie's stats are current as of 13-02-15):-

Of the 110 California patients 49 were unvaccinated (known status)

12 of these patients were babies too young to be vaccinated.

Of the remaining 37 patients, 28 were unvaccinated due to personal beliefs

Of these 28 patients, 10 were adults (so were old enough to be responsible for their own vaccination status), and 18 were children< 18 years)

One patient was on an alternative vaccination schedule, (so might have been measles vaxed with monovalent vaccine).
We are NOT given any details about the reasons or ages of the remaining 8 known to be unvaxed patients, so we can only make assumptions here. My guess is these persons were all too old for MMR jabs, but the CDC should come clean about this.

So if we leave out the 47 persons without vax documentation, (since we can’t make any assumptions here), then we have a grand total of 18 children, whose parents did not vax due to personal beliefs.
In percentage terms that’s a rounded 16%

13 persons had 1-3 measles containing vaccine doses, and one had antibodies indicating a prior measles vaccination or dose of natural measles.

That makes 14 persons vaxed or a rounded 13% of the total.
This is a significant percentage of measles vaccine failure, even allowing for some persons having had just one dose, (possibly 1-4 years cohort, not old enough for a booster).

Julie says the 47 persons with unknown status "are highly likely not to be fully vaccinated". I can't imagine how she thinks she knows this, but it's equally likely a fair proportion of these 47 persons WILL have received measles vaccinations. It is not at all unusual for vax documentation to be lost or missing.


Bayareamom

@Linda L.:

I found it! The Johns Hopkins patient guide is online; here are the two links (I'll provide the link as well to the page number wherein the statement is made that the patient must not be around recently vaccinated individuals):

Link to Johns Hopkins website:

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/kimmel_cancer_center/patient_information/

Link to the recovering cancer patient guide document:

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/kimmel_cancer_center/patient_information/Patient%20Guide%20Final.pdf

Link to Page 113:

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/kimmel_cancer_center/patient_information/Patient%20Guide%20Final.pdf

AND THERE IT IS:

Can I have
visitors?

Tell friends and family who are sick, or have recently had a
live vaccine (such as
chicken pox, measles, rubella,
intranasal influenza,
polio or smallpox
) not to visit.

It may be a good idea to have vi
sitors call first.

Avoid contact with children who were recently vaccinated

Bayareamom

@Linda L.:

I just wrote to Aaron Dykes over at Truthstream media. When/if I receive word from Aaron, I will let you know. You may try writing to him as well, but in the meantime, it may be possible to download a copy of that document on the Net. I'll see if I can find it, but with the two of us looking, maybe one of us will get lucky.

I'm going to search for a copy of that document now. If you by chance find same, please let me know.

John Stone

Julie,

I don't know the precise basis of Bob's calculation but I don't have your faith in the CDC that 43% undeclared cases are unvaccinated: they would surely tell you this with alacrity if they were. Also, it may be mentioned that infants that are too young to be vaccinated have had their maternal anti-bodies destroyed by the vaccine program. Meanwhile, these same infants - who are too young to benefit from the sites and adventures of Disneyland - have been brought there where they may be exposed to risk (and would be even with full vaccination status for everybody).

I would mention that a couple of years ago in the UK the authorities and the media made an obscene song and dance about unvaccinated people in Wales (many of the cases fabricated for the media) when they had a bigger out break amid a highly vaccinated population in the North England a few months before, which was only ever referred to in passing. My own view is that health officials (particularly those in Swansea in March 2014 were engaged in Muchausen Syndrome by Proxy). The real message is that we are being given selective information to manipulate us. There is no way in normal circumstances that a few cases of measles would get this level of media attention, with prepared lies about Andrew Wakefield - who was never momentarily in a position to influence popular opinion in the US anyway, but has been converted into hate figure.

The reality is that the vaccine program is a messy business, and is neither as safe or effective as the propaganda would have us believe. And the more it fails the shriller the shills get.

Theyrlosing

Yes, Anne S, recent polls show 40% in Canada are uncertain about the science supporting vaccines. Obviously many people, especially the younger ones who see and live with the higher autism numbers are not believing the spin. It must burn that all that money and media savvy try (reddit, Scienceblogs...) hasn't worked.

AnneS

The media blitz is not ending because it's paid-for PR. I would like to know if it's our own tax dollars paying for this - I assume it is. All the online polls are skewed by paid PR people who bash "anti-vaxxers". All the online articles too. They also have robo-posters, software that allows people like Dorit Reiss to post faster than humanly possible. So don't assume the masses really are against us (the pro-safety, pro-choice group). PR just spins it to look that way.

julie

I don't know where you got those numbers Bob...CDC reads this: "Among the 110 California patients, 49 (45%) were unvaccinated; five (5%) had 1 dose of measles-containing vaccine, seven (6%) had 2 doses, one (1%) had 3 doses, 47 (43%) had unknown or undocumented vaccination status, and one (1%) had immunoglobulin G seropositivity documented, which indicates prior vaccination or measles infection at an undetermined time. Twelve of the unvaccinated patients were infants too young to be vaccinated. Among the 37 remaining vaccine-eligible patients, 28 (67%) were intentionally unvaccinated because of personal beliefs, and one was on an alternative plan for vaccination. Among the 28 intentionally unvaccinated patients, 18 were children (aged <18 years), and 10 were adults. Patients range in age from 6 weeks to 70 years; the median age is 22 years. Among the 84 patients with known hospitalization status, 17 (20%) were hospitalized"

50% of this outbreak are not fully vaccinated...plus another 43% unknown (which are highly likely not to be fully vaccinated). If you're going to write ridiculous comments do your research properly.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm64e0213a1.htm

LInda L.

For Bayareamom
Please tell me where I can find a copy (preferably online) of the Johns Hopkins patient guide for recovering cancer patients. I need a copy of that page 113. I am in the process of making an appointment to see all my representatives to talk about vaccine choice. I know the first thing they will tell me is that small children in school with cancer need the herd to be vaccinated. I intend to show up with my own research, and this page from their guide is very important.

Bayareamom

Well, this just keeps getting better and better.

Remember the little boy of late who has leukemia; he's being used as the front guy (and an admittedly adorable one) for his Dad who is postulating that it is the UNVACCINATED kids who need to stay away from school so that his immunocompromised son doesn't 'catch' whatever these unvaccinated kids have (does it get any more absurd than this?).

Here's the link to this article:

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/02/vaccine-wag-dog-underway-to-take-away.html

SNIP (with a little surprise):

"Enter Rhett Krawitt. His face has been everywhere lately that the measles vaccination controversy has been.

That’s because the 7 year old, who is recovering from child leukemia, is being exploited by his father as a key reason why the vaccinated should not be allowed in schools.

Though Rhett Krawitt is too young to understand it, his image as a vulnerable child is being used to manipulate support for this draconian restriction of medical freedom – even in spite of the facts!

It is vaccinated children – not unvaccinated children – that immunocompromised people like Rhett, who is recovering from chemotherapy treatments for his leukemia, are advised to stay away from. Check out what is written on page 113 of this Johns Hopkins patient guide for recovering cancer patients:

Can I have visitors?

• Tell friends and family who are sick, or have recently had a live vaccine (such as chicken pox, measles, rubella, intranasal influenza, polio or smallpox) not to visit.
• Avoid contact with children who were recently vaccinated.

Here the “adorable” Rhett is referred to as the “what can only be described as the cutest, if not most convincing, call for parents to vaccinate their children.”

Prompted by his father, Carl Krawitt, he is asking the government to restrict parents’ rights to choose whether or not their children are vaccinated..."


Now here's the interesting surprise:

"But what the dozens of prominent stories on the heartwarming – or alternately heartbreaking – case on Rhett Krawitt DON’T discuss, however, is that Rhett’s grandfather is a medical doctor and a consultant to GlaxoSmithKline.

That’s a conflict of interest, no matter how unimportant it may seem.

Vermont gastroenterologist Dr. Edward Krawitt, MD, who specializes in hepatitis cases, has been a paid consultant to GSK for years. It shows up in Glaxo disclosures, and in the fine-print conflict of interest reports in Dr. Krawitt’s scientific papers – but it doesn’t factor into the media debate on twisting arms and forcing parents to vaccinate in California and, perhaps, the rest of the country.

That part is the dirty little secret. Or, alternately, the boring detail not worth mentioning.

But it makes a difference – not just in the public example being made of Rhett Krawitt, but in the Big Pharma-funded politicians who are pushing the bill through in California..."

Sandy Gottstein
cmo

Thanks Jenny & Angus (below)

Interesting Alex Jones interview, the MMR package insert is a disaster all by itself...

Sadly, a "7th grade health test" now even includes a UK doctor MMR fraud question...

The correct answer to this question will come out soon.

Margaret R Dodge

This just proves what a fascist government we have, many of whom are obviously receiving big money from big pharma and big agra lobbyists. To try and vote them out office would be a dream come true. It's an outrage how they capitalize on people's fears, such as suggesting that some murderers may have been autistic, or that parents who choose not to vaccinate their children are criminals, and generating hostility towards them.

Angus Files

And not to forget Carmel...

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/wakefield9.html


MMR RIP

Tim Lundeen

Im seeing different numbers from the CDC's report on California measles cases from Disney is up at http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm64e0213a1.htm but it makes the same point.

It shows that of the 110 cases in CA, only 18 of these were unvaccinated children with personal belief exemptions, or 16% of the cases. This hardly seems like strong support for the elimination of personal belief exemptions.

Jenny Allan

http://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/blog/dr-wakefield-speaks-puts-critics-forced-vaccination-to-rest

In this Alex Jones interview, Dr Wakefield makes many of the points also recently made in many AoA articles.
Please watch and listen.

Jenny Allan

"To force an unnecessary medical procedure on someone is wrong. It goes against one of the principles that our country was founded – individual liberty. But God help us. I fear that that liberty and the freedom to make our own health care choices, are dangerously close to being taken away."

We had a similar scenario in the UK, 2013, when a small measles outbreak in Wales, was hyped up and inflated to a ridiculous degree, claiming notified measles cases (>1500) as actual cases (around 250). It was, of course all Andrew Wakefield's fault, and THAT 1998 Lancet paper, for discouraging parents from vaccinating their children, now 'teenagers' whom we were told were coming down with measles in droves. (Jenny McCarthy is unknown in the UK). We had the same manic doom and gloom forecasts from ever more rabid health spokespersons and pharma paid press and media.

The propaganda spewing from the BBC, a non commercial, TV and Radio media corporation funded by UK compulsory licence payers, was particularly vile, culminating in a late evening Newsnight little piece of playacting, involving Paul Offit, on a Transatlantic TV link, extolling the necessity of mandatory measles vaccine- the MMR of course, and of all persons a smirking Fiona Godlee, parroting the non compulsory stance of Professor Salisbury -he who forced through that dangerous Urabe mumps MMR vaccine in 1988. Joining in enthusiatically was that would be thesbian, news presenter Jeremy Paxman, who weighed in heavily on the side of Offit. This 'famous three' managed to denigrate Dr Wakefield, including mentioning the Texas litigation against the BMJ, Godlee and Deer, criticise Salisbury for his stance, and castigate parents who fail to vaccinate their children, against that dire and dangerous measles disease. The whole thing was plainly rehearsed by all three of them.

In response to my complaint, the BBC replied Jeremy was playing 'Devil's Advocate', although there was a fierce denial of any presenter bias or playacting. My advice? "Stick to the day job Jeremy. Your acting is c...p." Newsnight has been reformated with new presenters after an avalanche of complaints about blatant widespread misreporting, and bias in all kinds of news reporting, particularly the Jimmy Savile scandals. Jeremy is still looking for a new day job.

Ultimately this all backfired on the Welsh health authorities, who were revealed to have peddled misinformation and false propaganda, particularly their emphasis on unvaccinated 'teenagers' being blamed for the outbreak. The truth was, most of those teenagers WERE MMR vaccinated and they shunned any extra doses. Wales was left with more than £100,000 worth of unwanted MMR vaccine, and a public angry about how they were misled into vaccinating their 6 month old babies, (contraindicated on vaccine inserts).

Dr Wakefield also got his side of the story published in a mainstream news outlet and publicly offered to debate Prof Salisbury on TV. Salisbury, like Offit, WON'T debate anyone holding opposing views on vaccine issues.

ChildHealthSafety has recently reported much larger measles outbreaks were taking place in highly MMR vaccinated populations in the North of England, at the same time as the Welsh outbreaks;(scroll down for the article). The Welsh outbreak was plainly used as a diversionary tactic.

The UK measles hubris was nasty enough, but was nothing like as vile as some of the US press and media Nazi and Stazi like rhetoric. You all have votes. Please make sure your own congress person knows your views.

Bob Moffitt

As the Chinese say .. "every crisis presents opportunity" .. which explains why .. our public health authorities and their "sock puppets" in the media .. have created a "crisis" where none exists .. and .. have used that "crisis" as THEIR "opportunity" to further demonize parents reluctant to vaccinate their children .. as well as .. osctracize the children of those demonized parents.

It is a win - win .. for them.

Howwever .. just read the CDC has reported that only 16 of the 110 people who contracted measles in California .. were unvaccinated .. which means .. 86% were vaccinated .. and .. still got measles.

If that statistic proves true .. it is no longer a "win-win" for them ..

Imagine a measles vaccine that has an 86% failure record .. in a world where we are constantly being told .. measles is only a short plane ride away ...

Now that would be a "crisis" even the sock puppets will have a hard time turning into an "opportunity'"

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