I'm surprised they never mentioned that the thimerosal free vaccines still have it.
http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Mercury-Free-Vaccines-Still-Have-Mercury-In-Them
Why aren't the other neurotixins like aluminum not mentioned?
It is apparent from their statement that they are fiercely pro-vaccine, is to reduce the amount of snark and ridicule from the industry Stepford wives.

In other words, DEMAND THE COMPLETE, UNADULTERATED, TRUTH. Nothing less will do when talking about public health programs mandating medicating the population including pregnant women and new born infants. NOTHING LESS WILL DO. NOTHING LESS SHOULD BE ACCEPTED.

JUST THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH...

Puzzle piecies is perfect for that ribbbon -- the NIH and the CDC and Merck has had the whole picture or should have (I think they did) cut it up and has let us parents put it back together.

So I guess this kind of talk is a slow push in the direction that will all have to swing to. After all the kids of the 70 and 80s have taken to drugs from mental illness way before the tons of other vaccines began in the 90s and continues into the this new century.

So far what have we pieced together?

There is mercury and it is causing tics and tourettes.

There is doctors who are also parents that I have seen in big government meetings that mentions an aborted fetus of a woman that had that little girl aborted because she was mentally ill -- and the simple explaination is that woman had a virus - her fetus had a virus and the MMR, the chicken pox and Hep A has it.

THe FDA says only one nanometer of human DNA the fetus should be in vaccines -- but I see there is a study that they found a whole lot more than that in the vaccines.

They have made these vaccines with out any fear of making a product that will harm -- no punishment and now we have mercury 2 parts per million when the EPA says drinking water shoulc not be but 1 part per billion.

We have the FDA saying just under 1 nanogram or something tiny and they put in 15,0000 ngs.

---- and in a presentation at the NIH on microbiome the grad student - not the big doctor says to the group -- the vaccines are acting as a sledge hammer to the gut microbiome -- so they are not so precise to make the immune system just attack the mumps or tetanus or what ever the vaccine is for

Maybe this is not as hard of a puzzle as I thought to put together.

You have to lead the indoctrinated from where they are, by being relatable and seemingly sharing their world view, to where you need them to be ...questioning some small premise until they can begins to see fallacies in the entirety.
Rfk jr would get no where and get no coverage at all if he said he thought all vaccines were a crock. I know that most of us are totally done with vaccines, but he is an environmentalist. Mercury was his issue. I applaud his having the enormous courage to use his political and name capital to support us. God knows virtually no one else in politics or the nonautism world has cared enough about our plight to speak up for us risk extreme ridicule and validate at least this one significant part of the autism story. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. A huge paradigm shift is happening. And many of the leaders of that shift are still in the process themselves. Don't accuse someone of lying or stupidity who simply doesn't agree 100% with you. That alienates and to overcome this we need all the friends we can get. They don't all understand yet. It took me 7 years to get from get the toxins out to omg these things don't even work and cause harm no matter what.

If Hyman gave out some bad info, that MMR had thimerosol at some point, who cares? All the better. Maybe someone heard him say that and inadvertantly thinks the MMR has mercury in it and decides not to give their healthy child an MMR shot. Maybe someone does a google search to find out what other vaccines have mercury in them. Maybe they say "geez! What the hell else is in these things?!" I better do some serious research! Gee, what a pity! Informed people already know and pass over it without believing it. Uninformed people pay more attention to the proclaimed safety of MMR and alter their vaccine choices. Oops, how horrible! Also, it gives him a chance to come back on Oz, correct himself, and have a whole other conversation about the questionable history of the MMR. What if that conversation ended up mentioning the recent revelation that the CDC covered up some important info? He also put the thimerosal safety issue on his own website - a page with 200,000 "likes." And he is now going to
be part of Cleveland Clinic's functional medicine program. I'd rather have someone at least knowledgeable about mercury in a big institution like that than someone promoting thimerosal as being safe and okay to use in vaccines or other medicines. We are talking about saving lives and improving health and quality of life here, in any way possible. If even one child is saved from neurological damage or is born without a predisposition for mito disease or an mthfr mutation that will screw up their glutathione pathway due to the mother having a mercury shot when pregnant, I'd say that's a good day's work. If anyone else here can say they've warned 3.1 million people about the potential danger of mercury in vaccines at the same time as revealing the scientific shortcomings of the CDC, step on up . . .

Great witticism, Laura! Why in the world would he say "fiercely pro-vaccine"? Does he honestly think that the problems with vaccines begin and end with mercury? I have a feeling that of the three he's fiercely afraid of being railroaded into obscurity if he doesn't recite the expected catechism.

Linda1
I agree. It's time for these guys to cut loose from dogma and just be honest. That goes for Dr. G and S as well. I agree with Benedetta too. You'd have to be crazy at this point, knowing what we know about vaccines, to get any of them. It's like these guys want to make a name for themselves selling one point about the dangers of vaccines, but not alienate the industry and the conventional public by breaking away entirely. Way less than admirable of them.

Good points Jenny.

We do need this - but there is so much wrong with the vaccines - that just taking out the mercury is not enough, but the public may think so and be easily fooled.

Hit the reset button on all of this and another new battle for another 30 or 40 years to get each of the many dangerous things out of vaccines; all the while they are adding more and more vaccines (with out mercury so all better) and we are still well on our way to living under cliffs making baskets.

It is a beginning - you are right-- it cannot be the the total. What do we do to keep it from doing just that?

Wow! Thank-you Dr. Oz!
One ongoing problem w/creating awareness of vaccine dangers is getting to a mainstream audience, instead of just "preaching to the choir" which is what pharmaceutical companies would like to have happen. They want the message to remain isolated among the few who already know or for the idea to remain irrelevant to the masses until an injury actually occurs, and for those people to feel isolated.
Can you imagine how many viewers may just decide to stop and listen the next time someone brings up the topic of alternate vaccine schedules or not vaccinating at all? Or if they go in and insist on the thimerosol free flu shot instead of the multidose shot? How many feet have been directed to a safer path as a result of this? How many womens' and babies' lives may go from being potentially ruined to potentially fine? One site says he has on average 2.9 MILLION viewers!

Yes, perfection would be nice, but while we are all sitting around waiting for it, we should be embracing improvements to the system, too. It's not going to be all or nothing at this point in history. Every step in the right direction is meaningful and will provide support for the endgame.

My key takeaways that this probably formerly uninformed audience heard are these:
1. They repeatedly used the descriptors "toxin" and "neurotoxic." That's way better than just "preservative."
2. Young parents who heard the phrase "implicated in autism" in the embedded video would have been introduced to the connection of autism to vaccines, whereas they might not have been before, even though the embedded video said the idea was discredited. The rest of the interview itself creates enough doubt that those words will probably lead to a lot of future googling.
3. Hyman discusses that with flu shots having mercury, there is an "equivalent dose" to what the CDC took out of other vaccines over a preponderance of caution. More red flags to any sensible newbie - and it's not hard to comprehend the comparison. The sound bytes were totally in layman's terms.
4. That the CDC would not respond to requests to provide the science showing thimerosol is safe to inject and in fact was so dangerous they have required taking it out of skin care products. No logical answer was provided by the CDC as to why it is still being injected. That silence is deafening and combined with their pat "public response" actually creates additional doubt.
5. They reiterated that it is a neurotoxin in ANY form.
6. They showed that 65% of the viewers DON'T trust the vaccine system. Right out, people who were doubters of vaccines but felt like they are were in the minority now have the peace of mind that they are in the MAJORITY, that there just might be valid reason for that doubt if so many are in the same frame of mind, and there are 2 wellknown and educated doctors sitting there telling them the same thing and clarifying their doubts - essentially telling them they are NOT dumb or crazy.
7. They told everyone about the 3 years of searching and 500 peer reviewed studies supporting their opinion to avoid thimerosol and mercury - where as the CDC could not provide even ONE valid study showing safety. That's huge.
8. Their final message was to ask for the mercury free flu vaccine.

If you ask me, the benefits of educating people to the dangers of mercury and how well that message came across definately overshadowed the brief introduction when both Hyman and Kennedy said they vaccinate. The message was that the system can do better, but that the patient will have to be informed and take steps for themselves to decrease their personal risk when it comes to vaccines. It shows the viewers that they have not been given the information they might want in order to make a safe decision.

People who are already completely against vaccinating (with good reasons) will certainly not go out and get a flu vaccine based on this interview. And the previously uninformed who would have been inclined to walk in and just get a shot with no knowledge of the dangers might either ask for the safer option, or bypass the shot altogether.

I thank them all!

This Dr. Oz show was nothing more than Pharma's new strategy to try to recover their lost credibility. Too little, WAY too late. Just enough of the truth is getting out that a lot of people (65%??) are now asking questions and not trusting the answers they are getting.

Pharma is starting to realize that the whole vaccine business is about to go down the tubes if they don't somehow restore trust. Blame it on government incompetence -- CDC, in particular, looks like the tact they have decided to take. I am guessing that CDC heads are going to roll.

Now would be a good time to independently get a lot of supposedly thimerosal-free vaccines tested to see just how "thimerosol-free" they all are. (And I agree with Bendetta--check the aluminum content while you are at it.)

And just how is it that all non-thimerosal containing vaccines are safe and effective while the falsified study linked MMR to a higher risk of autism?

John O'Neil reported that a screen grab from the show suggested MMR used to have thimerosal--pretty clear why Pharma might now want everyone to think that. It is part of their "solution" to their really big PR problem--there was a problem, but now it's all fixed.

"Yeah, that's the ticket."

(As John Belushi used to say in his SNL character, Tommy Flanagan, the pathological liar.)

Oh, what a love feastival.

Any good butcher will tell you that the main thing you do for the animal is to not scare it - keep everything low key - keep it calm.

It sounds like that to me.

Thanks Jim Thompson for explaining this - I have been wondering. So trace - is 2 parts per million and the EPA says mercury in drinking water through the stomach is 2 parts per billion.

At this point in time - seeing the lies, corrupt science -- and if I had known all that I know back 30 years ago -- A person would have to be a FOOL - which I am close to being -- to receive a vaccine of any kind today. There is not reason at all for the drug manufacturers to worry about making a safe vaccine -- just as long as you don't obviously get the dieseae they are vaccinating against -- anything else they do to you is Okay.

Vaccines other than flu shots still contain mercury.

These are vaccines with “trace” of amounts of Thimerosal. “…trace amounts (1 microgram or less mercury per dose)…” See http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/QuestionsaboutVaccines/UCM070430 .

But one microgram of mercury in a half milliliter vaccine dose (2 parts per million), still exceeds the USEPA mercury hazardous waste threshold of 0.2 parts per million by a factor of 10. See http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/12/q-a---how-about-a-half-cup-of-mercury-hazardous-waste.html .

This mercury should be removed as well. All mercury should be removed from vaccines.

The USEPA has established a threshold level of inorganic mercury allowed for drinking water of 2 parts per billion. The mercury by weight in a “trace” Thimerosal preserved flu shot is 1,000 times higher. See http://www.epa.state.il.us/water/compliance/drinking-water/publications/regulated-contaminants.pdf . If you shouldn’t drink it then you shouldn’t inject it into children or pregnant women.

Please contact your elected US Senators and Representative. See http://www.usa.gov/Agencies.shtml . Ask them to stop the use of Thimerosal (heavy metal mercury) in all vaccines.

The 3 mens' near hysterical testimony of allegiance to the vaccine god despite the fact that they are also supposedly pointing out that there is poison in the vaccines and that the god has refused to remove it and that there is a whole body of science that legitimately questions the safety and value of these same vaccines even without the one poison, is chilling. Do they think that their fearful scripted pronouncements that they are religious vaccinators will convince the 65%? Watching this segment makes me wonder how they were threatened because it sure was effective to dismantle their message, and they now just come across as bizarre.

@John

I am completely in agreement with you for taking Kennedy to task for his 'pro-vaxx' claim, while also criticizing other areas of vaccination. In fact, many of our allies have proceeded along this path of claiming that -- 'I am not anti-vaxx but....'. I am sorry but if you have serious concerns about vaccines then you just do, and it is extreme twisted logic (if not sheer hypocrosy) to say that you are still pro-vaxx. Until all your skepticisms about the program are resolved there is no room to be pro-vaxx.

Thank you Laura Hayes for your comment. You are exactly correct.

The screengrab from the video says "In 1999, Thimerosal began to be removed from childhood vaccines like Measles, Mumps and Rubella".

Are Dr Oz, Kennedy and Dr Hyman ALL unaware that MMR has never contained thimerosal? Dr Oz at least would have known that caption was coming up, even if Kennedy and Hyman didn't. So either he's extremely ignorant, or he's deliberately spreading untruths.

Anyone "fiercely pro-vaccine" in this day and age of vaccine-induced lifelong disability, chronic illness, and premature death is either "fiercely uninformed," "fiercely afraid of going public with what they know," or "fiercely corrupt while fiercely profiting."