Dow Chemical environmental labs -- in accordance with EPA guidelines test their products up at least seven generations, if not more. Sometimes up to 12 generations because it is well know that things will show up generations after.

Daniel Boone is impressive to be kin too unlike Jessie James. However; I do believe there were a lot of very religious men in that line

My whole theory about older grandfathers and the typhoid shot doesn't make sense because it shouldn't matter if it is two or three generations down, whatever passes down from generation to generation should still be there. It was an interesting thought though.

If anyone is interested I found this for vaccination of US troops for typhoid in the 1900s and beyond.

NO doubt the men needed it going into the Hell holes they were sending them.

But I found it interesting it was also a three in one vaccine
whole cell --also a vaccine that was withdrawn and then reintroduced many times and no doubt to the civilian populations living in mountainous regions still unware of the safe ways to get rid of human waste, with typhoid still present.

"Various vaccine combinations of typhoid, paratyphoid A, and paratyphoid B antigens were used during the 20th century. (4, 12, 42, 43) The trivalent vaccine was commonly known as TAB vaccine, triple vaccine, or enteric vaccine. Inactivated by heat and phenol, the vaccine contained whole-cell preparations of Salmonella typhi, Salmonella paratyphi (A), and Salmonella schottmuelleri (B). In 1916, the U.S. Army Medical School discovered paratyphoid A and B bacilli and developed a vaccine against them. But the paratyphoid components were of questionable efficacy. In the following decades, TAB vaccine was withdrawn, reintroduced, and then withdrawn again. In 1940, the triple TAB formulation was relicensed. Around 1945, paratyphoid A & B components were removed again from U.S. formulations. Typhoid fever affected 0.42 cases per thousand soldiers in World War I, but only 0.05 cases per thousand in World War II, due to expanded immunization. Various typhoid vaccines were developed at WRAIR, notably the acetone-killed and dried (AKD) and heat-phenol (H-P) treated formulations. (3, 7, 44) The AFEB preferred the AKD vaccine for its clinical efficacy. (9) Today, clean, chlorinated water supplies (a technique developed in 1910 by Army Major (later BG) Carl R. Darnall) (16) and other public-health practices prevent typhoid bacteria from entering military training camps (and cities) in the United States. The risk for typhoid fever is encountered overseas, so that typhoid immunization is standard before overseas deployments, but not part of trainee immunization itself. Development of the typhoid Vi polysaccharide injectable vaccine and live attenuated typhoid vaccine capsules rendered obsolete the whole-cell typhoid vaccines, renowned for high degrees of injection-site pain and swelling, fever, and systemic reactions. (7, 45) "

Yeah, and Probably autism in s Banjo boy in Deliverance

There was more to this article starting way back in the late 1800s. The policy to vaccine was - not to do it unless they were going to be deployed' they would not give them the typhoid vaccine because the risk was great and they had limited supply of immogloblins for serum sickness.

I find it fasnasting that even in the 1900s they had immunoglobins to give for vaccine reactions???? WHO KNEW!

Jeannette Bishop:
Well said as always!

Betty;
I know what you mean about getting tired of the inbreeding comments.
Disaster comes from quick judgements, and easy answers.

The Ozarks; are they known for coal production too? Because lots of people are quick to point out it could be nasty coal's fault - even though my area had very little coal, if any production. There are only a few areas deep in the mountains that have good veins of coal worth mining.

It could very easy also include the Ozarks and other Applachian communities; including West Virginia,since the same life styles caused typhoid to be present.

I don't think it was experimental as much as no one cared too much about the people of this area. It was an idea area to use up a WWI typhoid vaccines left over since typhoid did exist in the area. Plus these are areas that were rural and isolated, and not much way of the people reporting or complaining about severe reactions -which the vaccine was well noted to cause.

If the people of the Ozarks are like they are here - they are very aware of who is kin to who -- right on up to the 7th cousin. Jessie James was my seventh cousin by the way. He really was. See! If any inbreeding went on -I have heard stories - there were usually something very wrong mentally with the family before all the inbreeding began. Yuck!

I wonder how we could find records of where it was used, the years it was used, the IQs after it was used. I guess Brian Hooker has his plate filled up right now.

Many of my cousin's parents who were vaccinated with the typhoid vaccine went on to leave Eastern Kentucky years ago - for Ohio--but the family as a whole continues to have health problems, even in Ohio; all at very young ages--From MS, Parkinson, morbid obesity, a 12 year old died of a brain aneurysm just as she began her period, IBS, depression, alcoholism and on and on. . It does not seem to matter they (mostly Irish) married a bunch of Germans (inbreeding?) I think not. . One cousin - a nurse that now lives in Florida, who I spoke to this Fall - told me that Eastern Kentucky People were all known for their allergies and autoimmune diseases, as if she was not connected to us.

This vaccine was as I said used on WWI veterans.
I also find it - interesting for lack of a better word -
that both of my husband's grandfathers were WWI veterans.
My husband is not from Kentucky.
One set of his grandparents lived on the west coast, San Bernardino , California and the other set lived in Peeksville New York. Their children met at a college in Tennessee.

Both WWI veterans died at early ages.(heart failure and colon cancer) Both WWI veterans had sick children with thyroid problems , as well as inflammation of the disc, IBS, diabetes, morbid obesity, cancers of the bone marrow.

These two WWI veterans had grandchildren with a high incidence of things like mythensis gravis, acquired mitochondria disease, some kind of speech problems, depression, bipolar.

These two WWI veterans had great grandchildren (not just mine from Eastern Kentucky) with bipolar, autism, anxiety epilepsy. Asthma, allergies. and on and on.

I have often wondered what if anything had to do with their family's health problems being linked to WWI.
One was gased in WWI by the way - the other was not.

But it is one thing to vaccinate young men during war time and another to vaccinate whole communities of young children, all unaware of the high incidence of side effects.

I also found that The typhoid vaccine required a booster four weeks after the first one was given.

It lasted two years and then they were again given the vaccine.

As my Mother said - in remembering this as a little girl it would have felt like every Fall, that they received their typhoid shots. This would have been going on right on up through WWII. Typhoid was still around in 1947.

I also found this: Almroth Edward Wright developed an effective inactivated whole-cell typhoid vaccine that was introduced in 1896.[1] Due to side-effects its usage was eventually discontinued.[3]

(Yes, after a whole region in the United States is being made fun of)

I wonder how inactive it really was? Did it keep typhoid endemic in the area; along with unsafe sewage disposal of some of the uneducated people?

And what of the next generation that followed - mine - and my class mates? Plenty of my class mates were not speaking and plenty were receiving at that time whole cell DPT shots on top of what their parents had received; The DPT shot leading to a second insult to an already damaged immune system from typhoid vaccines?

I could give you lessons - if any of you are interested - in how to handle a phone call - in this area; since your own regions may now have the same problem.

By the mid 60s Harry Caudill -An advocate for the people of Eastern Kentucky had given up on his own people, and began talking to Shockley Jr from California on how to improve our genes. Caudill discussed genetics and came close to the same ideas that we had just fought Nazis over and barely won a war.

1.) Secretly test IQs (as if the schools were not already doing this) and encourage through grants and money - Fathers whose children had low IQs to get vasectomies. Of course he was not a Rockefeller and he did not find the money to do this.
2.) Try to get the 3 or 4 million Kentuckians with skills; that had left the region for better jobs (the brain drain) to returnl They tried to set up programs but really there was nothing to encourage these workers to come back.
3.) Get an army base established in the region so it would bring in new sperm to the girls of Eastern Kentucky. This would be left up to the army and we have two already in the state.

Army Base and soldiers --another heavily vaccinated population- Sounds like more misery to me.

As in getting back to my hubby that received from the Forest Service tick shots all through his service to them - along with DPT shot (getting a tetanus shot) every two years-- in his teen years. It all mattered to his children later on.

So The number of vaccines matter.
The number of boostes matter.
The number of vaccines our parents took also matters.

The Stone Age
-they were agile and had great ability;
Try poverty and starving

Oh,and ---
those taking the typhoid vaccines--spread typhoid
Little typhoid Marys.

Jen
The reason I mentioned typhoid is because on the U tube it said that typhoid went down without using vaccines.
I just wanted everyone to know that there existed a a vaccination program for typhoid in the United States.

Every one wants to blame coal. However; My school was away from the main coal fields--Kentucky is not just one massive coal field - My school was toward the edge of the mountains. There was not much coal in our area at all.

Also for such a long time there were no spikes in autism- Kanner's kids appearing suddenly; all the while,, all the houses in the entire United States in the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s had coal bins --. I often wonder if that was what basements were really built for.

If you can find any information about late typhoid outbreaks in the United States you will find that it was in the Appalachians--my paternal grandmother came down for the second time in her life with typhoid in 1947.

Also it was only in the Appalachians that there was a typhoid vaccine program . .

Some People would build their outhouse right on top of a branch or creek. I have seen such as late as the 60s; One that really bothered me was right at the edge of town. The people had a very neat house, very nice lawn, but still had their out house over top of a little branch that could be viewed from two roads.
What was wrong with them??? Some body should have said something to them. You dig holes, or trenches for heaven sakes.

What was needed at the very beginning were not a bunch of doctors going to give out typhoid shots -- - BUT education that you bury your waste away from the creeks and branches, using the collective community to enforce or at least make fun of those doing such silly stuff.

I found some information that the typhoid vaccine required a booster soon after the first one. It also caused headaches in every last person. There was no shortage of the whooping cough vaccine either.
Experimenting on the people of Appalachians; is not a stretch.
Today; We know what each rad of radiation will do - because Cincinnati used Appalachian women with breast cancer to find out.

One boy that had autism in my class - I know that was what it was esp now -- ended up moving right down the road from me during highschool. He and his brother were really into horses. We had horses on our farm and they were over often.
I think he got a job in Lexington on the horse farms as a groomer. They said they loved him.

Tragic consequences of massive vaccine poisoning of Americans.
The Science magazine (24 Feb. 2012) shows a graph of distribution of NIH grants among US scientists from different age groups. In the 1980. the young scientists (<36 Y.O.) received about 17% of all NIH grants, but in 2010 they received only 3%. The reverse is true for older scientists (>66 Y.O.), who in the 1980. received only 1% of grants, but in 2010 received more that 7%. The average grant recipient in 2010 was 51 Y.O.

This statistic tells us how intellectually devastated is the present young generation of Americans, whose IQ has been dramatically reduced by toxic vaccines, food and fluorinated water. US has no future with such massively neurologically damaged young generation, but no politicians dares to talk or even think about this. They are all sold to pharmaceutical mafias and unconsciously they are enablers of American national suicide.

http://www.kentucky.com/2012/12/21/2451229/chapter-4-disillusioned-harry.html

At first he blamed outside interest in the area which is true and then he began to quesion his neigbhors' IQ.

He killed himself when he developed Parkinson.
Parkinson -- hmmmmm.

Dr. Spearman's claim that "we know the rates" with regards to having an adverse reaction to "some minute component to a vaccine" is a bald-faced lie in case anyone new to AoA happens to be reading today. AoA Veterans, I know you know this :)

In our country, we have a passive reporting system called VAERS which is supposed to alert federal regulators when something is amiss with our nation's vaccine program. At best, the CDC itself admits that 1-10% of adverse reactions to drugs, including vaccines, are reported. I think 1% is a gross overestimate in and of itself. Additionally, I have zero confidence that federal regulators spend even one iota of time analyzing the reports that are made to VAERS. I've certainly never come across an analysis of reports made to VAERS by our tax-payer funded regulatory agencies, have you?

Of the many, many people I know who have vaccine-injured children, not one of their doctors acknowledged it, made the connection, or reported it. And by the time most parents find out about VAERS, if they find out, the 3-yr. statute of limitations has expired to file a case with the NVICP, so they often choose not to file a VAERS report (by this time, most parents have lost any and all trust in the system anyway, and have heard what a joke "Vaccine Court" is). Shockingly, doctors are not required to report adverse vaccine reactions in their patients to VAERS, it is a completely voluntary reporting system. Doctors don't want to admit that they have harmed/killed their patients, and they don't want to admit that their bread and butter is causing problems. Vaccines keep them in business...first for all those "well baby" visits"...then for the lifetime of follow-up care needed due to vaccine injury in the forms of autism, diabetes 1, seizure disorders, cancer, learning issues, behavioral issues, sensory issues, GI problems, bowel disorders, food allergies and intolerances, life-threatening peanut allergies, arthritis, the list is endless. Vaccines initiate an immune response which may be immediate, and/or which will play out over the course of a lifetime, further exacerbated by the many other insults our children will be exposed to via pesticides, GMOs, toxic cleaners, etc.

It sure would be nice if doctors, including Dr. Spearman, woke up to the rampant and devastating vaccine injury in our country. As it stands now, they are a huge part of the problem. They have forgotten that they are to "First, do no harm." They would be wise to remember that. For now, parents are on their own to protect their children from doctors.

In 1963, Harry Caudill of Whitesburg published Night Comes to the Cumberlands: A Biography of a Depressed Area, which shined a spotlight on the plundering of the mountains of Eastern Kentucky.

He decided that our genes were just wore out and we needed outside genes -- never mind that the people of this area are the most well traveled anywhere in the United States since so many left.

If he noticed a drop in skills and IQ -- perhaps it can be traced back to everyone getting a typhoid shot in the Fall of the year ---- Every YEAR!

The community I mentioned down below -- is gone - nothing remains of 7 generations of people that lived there except a few well hidden graves stones - it is all part of the Daniel Boone National Forest.

They did have typhoid vaccines.
Everyone meet the county nurse and doctor in one room school houses in the Fall and received these vaccines.
These made everyone sick,and run fevers for days. This according to my Mother - born in 1929.
In spite of the typhoid vaccine if some one drank from the wrong spring, as did my parternal grandmother - they were still going to get typhoid. The only way that saved my grandmother's family from getting it -- was a new solution called lysol -- they washed the house down with it.

The only way to get rid of typhoid was to clean up the water supply

http://www.weather.com/health/just-prick-origin-and-evolution-anti-vaccine-movement-20140228
The Weather Channel -What a load of Codswallop!!
Some excerpts from above:-

“Forty-three years after the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine hit the mainstream, the disease is still flaring across the country — as are mumps, rubella and whooping cough”

“Recent outbreaks of preventable diseases show the damage done by refusing vaccines. The MMR vaccine is over 95 percent effective, making it one of the best vaccines available.”

In the UK the MMR vaccine hit the kids in 1988. I make that 26 years; the US and Canada got this vaccine a few years before. Single Measles and Rubella vaccines were introduced in the UK in the late 1960’s with little or no controversy. The Wakefield et al Lancet Paper was published in 1998, 16 years ago. The MMR controversy has NOTHING TO DO with whooping cough vaccine, a component of the Diptheria, Pertussis and Tetanus triple vaccines. The Weather Channel seems to have got very mixed up here, apparently under the impression MMR is a disease in its own right? I am unaware of any Rubella resurgence. This disease is extremely mild and only causes problems in early pregnancy, when it can damage an unborn child.

I was interested in the following reported comments by Drs Spearman and Marty. If I am not very much mistaken they appear to be admitting vaccines have risks, particularly for children with compromised immune systems. This is very different from the ‘vaccines are completely safe’ mantras, parents have been subjected to when they dared to query any safety issues.

“Dr. Spearman and Dr. Marty both said almost everyone should be vaccinated, except in extremely rare cases.
“It should be noted that in the U.S. most people do not refuse vaccines — we’re at an all time high of childhood vaccinations,” said Dr. Spearman. “[But] live viral vaccines are contraindicated in those who are significantly immunocompromised.”
“Whether they are a transplant patient, or those who are on cancer therapies, or have a primary immunodeficiency, they need to check with their physician and make sure they aren’t getting the live viral vaccine,” he added. “It’s [also] always a possibility to have a reaction to some minute component to a vaccine, but we know the rates, and know they are very, very uncommon.”
Dr. Marty agreed. “While all medications — including vaccines — have risks, the benefits of vaccines greatly outweigh their risks.”