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Public Enemy Number One: White Suburban Educated Moms

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By Julie Obradovic
There’s a theme playing out in our society, and it’s not a good one: white suburban moms are the enemy.
It started a few months ago with a tweet from Dr. Nancy Snyderman. She was addressing the fact that studies have shown the parent most likely to refuse or question vaccinations for her children is a highly-educated white mom.
She wanted everyone to know that we are a well-meaning bunch, but that we are wrong.
It was ridiculously condescending and reeked of racism. Are we seriously to believe mothers of color don’t have questions about vaccines either?
But for the most part the tweet and what it implied…that we stereotypical silly little college-educated white moms are seriously misguided and endangering our children and society…went unnoticed outside of the vaccine-safety movement.
But it has happened again, and this time, not in the form of a tweet most people will never see or pay attention to. This time, it came from the federal government; specifically from the mouth of Department of Education head, Arne Duncan.
While addressing criticism of the Common Core, he speculated what was behind it:

 “It’s fascinating to me that some of the pushback is coming from, sort of, white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were, and that’s pretty scary,” Duncan said.
Now I’ve been an outspoken advocate in perhaps one of the nastiest controversies out there for almost ten years. I’ve heard and read an awful lot of insults during that time, Dr. Nancy’s not withstanding. Anything from being a “flat-earther” to being so stupid it’s no wonder my special-needs child has problems.
I try not to pay attention to those things anymore, but every once in a while something catches me off guard. Mr. Duncan’s comments did just that.
It wasn’t just that as a teacher with 17 years experience and two master’s degrees in education that I know first hand what the real concerns are from both sides of the desk, and that it has absolutely nothing to do with worrying about the perceived brilliance of a child or value of a school. It was that his comment is so far off from reality that it’s not just insulting, it’s frightening: he’s apparently completely disconnected from what teachers and parents are actually worried about.

And that’s what’s really got me. Once again, an “expert” in a position of influence and authority completely missed the message, and not only missed it, but missed it so badly that his only explanation for resistance was that the opposition must be insecure. Or selfish. Or misguided. Or well-meaning but just plain wrong. And that race actually has something to do with it. Just like Nancy.
It’s not the first time mothers have been blamed for something that was not even slightly their fault while being simultaneously dismissed by authority and ultimately proved right. (Can you say, autism?) And apparently, it won’t be the last.

As a member of the post-feminist generation, I find this shocking.
But then again, maybe I shouldn’t.
We are the generation that was raised to believe we could become anything we wanted, and we have. We are the generation that never once had to worry about playing sports in high school, and boy, did we play. We are the generation that was raised to be an equal partner in business, in marriage, and in politics. I believe we will see a woman president in my lifetime.
In short, we are the first generation of women in this country to be raised from day one with the idea that we are just as smart, just as worthy, just as capable, and just as equal as anyone else. And we believe that.
How naïve of me to think indoctrinated institutions would naturally embrace our independence in thought and behavior as mothers. This blatant misinterpretation of our resistance to their authority is Exhibit A in our prosecution.
Nancy and Arne, let me save you some trouble.
The current resistance to vaccination is based in a mistrust of what is being passed off as comprehensive, accurate, unbiased science; a complete dismissal of the story of thousands upon thousands of parents around the globe who followed your advice to their children's detriment are telling you; the idea you believe a neurotoxin that if dropped on the floor of the doctor’s office requires a Hazmat team to clean it up, but is and has always been safe and responsible to inject into a baby; and a policy that puts the importance of the greater good and profits over their individual child…to name a few things. Trust me, there’s more.
Likewise, the resistance to Common Core comes from the same resistance that educators and parents have always had: like vaccination, they don’t want kids to be experiments; they don’t trust the business model as a way to run education; they are wary of the corporate and political influence involved in the process; they are sick of standardized tests being used to value a school, a teacher, and a child; and for the love of God, they are tired of having initiatives thrust on top of them without them even being sort of ready to be implemented…to name a few things. Trust me, there’s more.
The bottom line is white suburban well-educated moms are not the gullible, vulnerable, selfish, misguided, weak little women who just won’t go with the program because we believe our kids are gifted geniuses, as you would have society believe.
We are, rather, your worst nightmare.
We don’t take crap from anyone.
If we think you are wrong, we’ll tell you.
If we think you haven’t done your homework, we’ll find the research for you.

If you won't help our sick children, we'll heal them ourselves.
And if you mess with our kids, well, you better just watch out. Hell hath no fury like a mother of this generation scorned.
Just because you don’t know what to do with us doesn’t make us wrong, or weak, or silly, or misguided. It does, however, make us pretty powerful.
And for what it’s worth, you better brace yourselves. If challenging medical and educational authority scares you today, just wait until our daughters grow up.
Julie Obradovic is a Contributing Editor to Age of Autism.

(PS) Arne Duncan is said to have issued an apology for using "clumsy" words - and the as of this posting, the Twitterverse is NOT accepting the apology, calling it an insult to white, suburban Moms.  The apology was also on morning TV.



CP Heller

Thank you for writing this article.


"The introduction of the pathogen into the infant may be the part of the infection process with the LEAST effect on the disease outcome."

The introduction of the pathogen into the subject may be the part of the infection process with the LEAST effect on the disease outcome.

It is the subject's inability to deal with the pathogen that is NORMALLY the problem. A strong immune system is USUALLY all that is required. "Vaccination" is destroying our kids and OUR immune systems.

How much simpler can things be?

Most modern "disease" IMO in today's USA is a result of eating man-made crap and sitting on our butts. Hard to accept knowledge, but we are ignoring it to our continuous demise. Note drugs and Medical Treatment will not help you solve this NURTITIONAL and EXERCISE problem.


“I would like to begin by proposing that we use the terms vaccinated and unvaccinated instead of immunized and unimmunized, since the basis of the vaccination controversy is the belief of many parents that the vaccines do not produce a true immunity', but rather act in some other fashion--or, in my view, that they act immunosuppressively.” Doctor Richard Moskowitz, MD


To add to the non-vaxer's arsenal IMO normal "childhood diseases" appear to be part of a salubrious immunodevelopemental process and help build and strengthen the child's immune system. Many of these "childhood diseases" can be one or more orders of magnitude more dangerous if first contracted in adulthood.

Get sick when nature commands it; only get a little sick; get well quickly; get stronger; live long and prosper.


"I recently saw her on youtube saying that she only recommends sodium ascorbate and I was looking for more information."

Linda some experts go with the sodium ascorbate and some like the ascorbic acid. I try to take both. If you mix one half teaspoon of ascorbic acid with one half teaspoon of baking soda in water you will get a nice dose of about half sodium ascorbate and half ascorbic acid.

Vitamin C like all vitamins is a COMPLEX of many components. IMO make sure you are getting all of them.



Thanks for your insight and thanks too for sharing the link to Dr. Humphries' paper on whooping cough and Vitamin C. I recently saw her on youtube saying that she only recommends sodium ascorbate and I was looking for more information.


"So, it appears that the vaccine itself is what is introducing the virus into the population and endangering infants."

The introduction of the pathogen into the infant may be the part of the infection process with the LEAST effect on the disease outcome.

All infectious disease follows a simple three step process.

1) The pathogen is introduced into the subject.

2) The subject's natural immune system EASILY defeats the pathogen, often in seconds, OR

3) The pathogen establishes a foot hold in the subject and proceeds to a full blown disease requiring a prolonged fight by the subject's acquired immune system.

For a newborn infant MOST of their immature immune system is provided by their mother's milk and other mother acquired means. If the mother has never naturally contracted the pathogen and has not acquired natural immunity to it, the mother cannot pass this protection to her infant. Most young mothers have NO pertussis IMMUNITY to pass to their infants because they have NEVER naturally contracted pertussis and defeated it. "Vaccination" has prevented this naturally acquired immunity from occurring in the mother.

Pertussis is in a way somewhat of a special case in that high Vitamin C levels in the infant IMO may allow the infant mount a successful non-complicated defense in spite of her mother being "vaccinated". This vitamin C should be provided in both the mother's milk and directly to the infant.



"So, it appears that the vaccine itself is what is introducing the virus into the population and endangering infants."

We have tons of evidence that this is so and not just for the "pertussis vaccine" but for "vaccination" in general. Let us never forget that "vaccination" is the practice of injecting toxins into our HEALTHY children with NO clinical trails to show us the benefits and risks.

The USA is 45th in childhood mortality world wide. Please consider this the largest clinical trial possible.

DEC 2006 "Gulf war syndrome is positively linked to the vaccination of veterans." New York Times, Note 100,000 vets with GWS, 20,000 dead, squalene key suspected toxin, mycoplasma found in thousands of vaccinated vets with GWS

1992 Lancet, Journal of the British Medical Association, reports (3/7/92) that the oral polio vaccine used in the mid 1970's to treat recurrent herpes was contaminated with a number of potentially dangerous retroviruses, and may have seeded HIV among Americans'.

"In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the lowest vaccine coverage." The Lancet, 21/9/91

May 1987 The Times of London reported on its front page that smallpox vaccine administered by the World Health organization had triggered HIV/AIDS. 100 Million Vaccinated Africans are at risk. Areas with highest vaccination rate show highest HIV/AIDS rates. Robert Gallo, discoverer of the HIV/AIDS virus, defends those figures and says, "AIDS researchers will keep their mouths shut because they are paid to do so."

“Dr. Sabin then introduced his "improved" vaccine with "attenuated" or "weakened' live viruses in 1958, and the following year his vaccine was made to be compulsory (mandatory) in all school-age children in a number of states. As a result, polio increased a whopping 300% in these states. For example, Tennessee reported 119 polio cases in 1958, after "vaccination" this total increased to 386 cases in 1959, Ohio ­ 17 cases in 1958, 52 cases in 1959, Connecticut ­ 45 cases in 1958, 123 cases in 1959, and North Carolina: 78 cases in 1958 compared to 312 cases in 1959 AFTER forcing compulsory shots in school children. The modern record is equally damning. The ONLY cases of recorded polio in the modern era is immediately following vaccinations. The conquering of polio had NOTHING TO DO with the vaccine needles and swallowing sugar cubes. In fact, as author Ed Haslem documents so well in his book, "http://doctormarysmonkey.com/" Dr. Mary's Monkey, the Sabin vaccines were actually contaminated with mutated GREEN MONKEY VIRUSES (SV-40 viruses to be specific) which has caused untold millions of SOFT-TISSUE CANCERS and deaths worldwide. (The cancer "industry" has reaped BILLIONS of dollars from this "contamination" over the years, of course.) "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU" Dr. Maurice Hilleman has actually confessed as being a part of this very activity.”

In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk, who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961." Science 4/4/77 Abstracts


Check it out, Minerva (and all). This study reported in the NYT yesterday confirms what Dr. Palevsky has been saying all along -

Whooping Cough Study May Offer Clue on Surge
Published: November 25, 2013

"Baboons vaccinated against whooping cough could still carry the illness in their throats and spread it, research published in a science journal on Monday has found...

The new study, published on Monday in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, offers another explanation. Using baboons, the researchers found that recently vaccinated animals continued to carry the infection in their throats. Even though those baboons did not get sick from it, they spread the infection to others that were not vaccinated.

“When you’re newly vaccinated you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population,” said Tod J. Merkel, the lead author of the study, who is a researcher in the Office of Vaccines Research and Review in the Food and Drug Administration."


So, it appears that the vaccine itself is what is introducing the virus into the population and endangering infants. It appears that when they innoculate new parents and grandparents and all caretakers after the birth of a newborn baby to supposedly protect the baby from pertussis (cocooning I believe is what they call it) that the baby is exposed to the virus from the parents having been vaccinated.

Vaccinating school children every 3 years or however often they do it now will also endanger those children and adults who cannot be vaccinated, the ones that we're all supposed to get vaccinated to protect.

Dr. Hickey, care to comment? If you want to read more about the scientific rationale to explain this phenomena, see your colleague, Dr. Lawrence Palevsky's website. He figured it out long ago without having to infect any baboons.


"My baby got the DTaP at 2, 4, and 6 months, but caught pertussis anyway at a La Leche League meeting at 8 months old, and gave it to me."

What probably happened was both you and your baby had sub-clinical scurvy as do MOST of us who are not eating well and not watching our vitamin C intake. Had both of your vitamin C levels been higher you both may have been able to easily defeat the pertussis pathogen.

A major cause of your babies low vitamin C levels is "VACCINATION" which burns up a LOT of vitamin C removing the "vaccine" toxins from your baby's blood stream. IMO the DTaP is designed to do just this and other immunosuppressing actions. Six immunosupressing DTaP toxic injections are apparently not achieving the immunosupression in our children desired so they are pushing a seventh on us. Are we this dumb?

Incidentally sub-clinical scurvy is the MAJOR CAUSE of much of CVD, which kills half of us, and is a MAJOR contributing factor in MOST "disease".

Pertussis outbreaks are occurring in both the "vaccinated" and the far healthier un-vaccinated. Often the un-vaccinated show LOWER rates. LOL! Clearly something else is causing the outbreaks.

Doctor Suzanne Humphries PhD using Hillary Butler's paper has written a pertussis prevention and treatment paper (Manual) that, with the same distribution as the toxic and TOTALLY inefficacious "pertussis vaccine", could TOTALLY remove pertussis as a threat in our lives. Of course truth about disease does not pay well and thus HHS instead of promulgating this vital health information SUPPRESSES it.

Imagine a world where your "Pediatrician" would tell you, ,,,

"Mrs Jones in the dark and dangerous days of "vaccination" we used to "vaccinate" for pertussis and then a wonderful and insightful team of women brought us the simple solution FOREVER. Please read this paper and we can discuss it. I will answer all your questions and give you the HHS protocol for vitamin C for your child. I strongly suggest you also read this paper on vitamin D. We have found the repleting your baby with vitamins and other nutrients OBVIATES almost all need to drug the little tykes."

Find a way to remove the criminals from "government" and it WILL happen. IMO spreading the truth about "health care" is a good way to expose the criminals.



"New studies published in prominent medical journals have called into question the 85 percent efficacy quoted in the vaccine’s package inserts. For example, one study by scientists at Kaiser Permanente found vaccine effectiveness in Marin County in 2010 to be between 24 and 79 percent for children 2 to 18...."

Here is where NOT running clinical testing on "vaccines" is killing our children and us.

"Vaccine effectiveness" is NOT what it sounds like. "Vaccine effectiveness" is the ability of the "vaccine" to produce antibodies to the target disease in the "vaccinated: person. "Vaccine effectiveness" has NOTHING to do with preventing, mitigating or treating the target disease. There has been NO clinical testing that has shown that the presence of "vaccine" produced antibodies prevents ANY disease.

Now do you trust a Medical Industry who would foist this fraud on us?

"Vaccination" is all about trust.

Needles introduce toxic substances directly into your blood or muscle bypassing all your body’s defenses and allowing toxins directly into your blood stream. This is not good. Your body is designed to prevent this. The Medical Industry is going directly against your bodies design. This may be wise if you life is DIRECTLY on the line as in a traumatic emergency treatment; otherwise it is INSANITY.

Please think long and hard before allowing a needle into your body or the body of anyone you love. Giving sixty or so toxin laden needles to a HEALTHY infant is criminal IMO. I will not allow a needle into my body unless I have been in a car wreck or similar disaster.

Reasons not to take a needle

You do not know what is in the syringe

The medical person giving you the needle does not know what is in the syringe

The person who loaded the syringe does not know what is in the syringe

The most critical of injected drugs are being manufactured in Communist China

No vaccine has been fully tested

Vaccine manufactures have made themselves immune to liability

In the age of computers no statistics on the efficacy of vaccines are kept. Why?

Sadly our Rockefeller controlled Medical Industry has proven it cannot be trusted

Baxter Labs put the deadly live H5N1 virus in millions of doses of "Seasonal Flu Vaccine".

Baxter Labs was not punished in any way for almost changing world history in a most negative way by this attempted mass murder but was rewarded by CDC by being awarded with the manufacture of the next seasons "Seasonal Flu Vaccine". I wonder how much this "vaccine" was tested for live H5N1. This shows us the conspiracy to contaminate "vaccines" with deadly substances extends to the highest levels.

Is AIDS being distributed in "Seasonal Flu Vaccines"? Why not, live H5N1 is far deadlier?

You may not "trust" the Medical Industry. After many tens of thousands of hours studying the Medical Industry I do not trust the Medical Industry. Yes most doctors are good ethical people but they do not control the Medical Industry, the Rockefellers et al do. The Rockefellers et al are eugenicists who wish to vastly lower the human population. These are just facts.


"There are so many doctors and scientists who disagree with the germ theory and the BELIEF that vaccinating is necessary to survive in this world."

Yes the "germ theory of disease" is clearly the KEY disinformation that had to be sold to raise the allopathic treatment scam for mostly nutrition caused "disease" over those more nature based nutritional methods of prevention and treatments that actually WORKED.

Most modern "disease" IMO in today's USA is a result of eating man-made crap and sitting on our butts. Hard to accept knowledge, but we are ignoring it to our continuous demise. Note drugs and Medical Treatment will not help you solve this NUTRITIONAL and EXERCISE problem.



'We know there are places around the country where there are large numbers of people who aren't vaccinated,'

Once again the ASSUMPTION is that "vaccines" will prevent disease. How many doses of this toxin are to be Required? Suppose we give one a year, one a month ... When do you examine your obviously NOT WORKING ASSUMPTIONS?

Let us look at the places where persistent non-vaccine preventable pertussis occurs. They are often COLD, DARK and have LONG periods of NO SUN. In other words low vitamin D levels. How hard would it be to run clinical trials on vitamin D as a method of pertussis prevention? The CDC and other liars cannot run these trials because they will use levels of vitamin D that are KNOWN to be infectiousness; as they have OFTEN done in the past.

If you assure your levels of vitamin D at 60 ng/ml and ingest about 3 grams of vitamin C/day I strongly suspect you and yours will not be bothered by pertussis and a whole HOST of other "diseases" to include CVD et al.


""New research confirms the whooping cough vaccine is failing at a higher rate than expected, and scientists are considering adding a seventh dose to the national immunization schedule"

Oh how softly the knife is slipped between the ribs.

No it is not another dose of the "pertussis vaccine" that is to be "added". It is another toxic brew of THREE "vaccines" the most horrible DTaP. It is my opinion that the DTP and its only slightly less toxic DTaP successor is nothing but an immune system depressant.

“Let’s take whooping cough as an example. In 1979 Sweden withdrew use of the DTP vaccine on the basis that it was not effective and possibly unsafe. The fear, of course, would be that with lower vaccination rates, the death rate would increase. So what happened in this case? A 1995 letter from Victoria Romanus at the Swedish Institute of Infectious Disease Control indicated that deaths from whooping cough remained near zero. Sweden’s population was 8,294,000 in 1979 and 8,831,000 by 1995. From 1981 to 1993, eight children were recorded as dying, with the cause of death listed as pertussis. This averaged to be about 0.6 children per year possibly dying from whooping cough. These numbers show that the odds of dying from pertussis in Sweden were about 1 in 13,000,000 even when there was no national vaccination program. [6]"

"In New Delhi, India, prior to 2000, ASD/PDD (autism spectrum disorder/pervasive developmental disorder) symptoms were rare – typically only occurring in children who were vaccinated abroad. However, after the Indian pediatricians began recommending, in 2000, the addition of triple-dose Thimerosal-preserved Hib (Haemophilis influenza B) and Hep B (hepatitis B) vaccination programs to the existing Thimerosal-preserved triple dose DTP (diphtheria toxin, tetanus toxin and pertussis toxins) vaccination program recommended by the Government of India, the incidence of a childhood ASD/PDD diagnosis increased to 2 % to 4 % of vaccinated New Delhi children.” Doctor Paul King PhD

“CDC data shows 84 percent of children under the age of 3 have received at least FOUR DTaP shots—which is the acellular pertussis vaccine that was approved in the United States in 1996—yet, despite this high vaccination rate, whooping cough still keeps circulating among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated. More likely than not, the vaccine provides very little if any protection, and this was evidenced very clearly in a study published in Clinical Infectious Disease.” 81 Percent of Whooping Cough Cases Occurred in People Who Were Fully Vaccinated

As Doctor Suzanne Humphries eloquently points out all that may be required both for the prevention of pertussis and the TREATMENT of pertussis is good old VITAMIN C.

“Here are a few functions of vitamin C, using whooping cough as the example: 1) The front line function of vitamin C is to bond with, and neutralize, circulating toxin, …. With whooping cough, the body manages the toxin until it runs out of vitamin C. Then the toxin builds up, the cough intensifies, and there is breakthrough into the blood. In babies with subclinical scurvy, (which the doctors never recognize …) the blood brain barrier weakens significantly – which can result in toxin going into the brain.” Vitamin C for Whooping Cough. Updated Edition. Suzanne Humphries, MD

I suspect this prevention and treatment by vitamins and other nutrients also holds for MOST serious cases of NORMALLY harmless childhood diseases.

How about NPD nutrition preventable disease?



"But do keep hanging together and boasting of how great and wonderful and angry you are to the whole world. Please...do."

Yes I believe we will. We have NO choice; the entire brain washed Pediatric Industry, with a few notable and very brave exceptions, will not listen to us. HHS considers our children as cannon fodder in the war on population, which you may note are PEOPLE. Our children are PEOPLE as are we. Please join us and become a PEOPLE and stop being a TOOL.

Sir here is a doctor you may want to learn from.




The CDC reports that there are 1 in 88 American children with autism and 1 in 54 boys dxed with autism. There's been a 15-20% increase in autism approximately every 5 years in the US. And you think this all genetic? Really? How profoundly clueless you are. For your information my son's chromosomal microarray test came back "normal" per the lab report yet he regressed at about 18 months after he got his vaccines. so, you see, contrary to what you believe, kids with "normal" DNA are regressing into autism. Autism is more likely the result of exposure to environmental toxins (poisoning) not primarily genetic. Yor thinking feeds into the eugenics mindset.


"New research confirms the whooping cough vaccine is failing at a higher rate than expected, and scientists are considering adding a seventh dose to the national immunization schedule published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Two recent studies have found the majority of people getting sick are up to date with their immunizations....'I think 2010 was a real eye-opener,' said Dr. James Cherry, a specialist in pediatric infectious diseases at UCLA. 'My friends at the department of public health are saying vaccine failures are a much bigger part of this and I agree with them.'

In interviews with KPBS and I-Newsource two years ago, Cherry said he and other scientists attributed the dramatic rise in whooping cough cases in California to increased awareness among physicians, better testing and the fact that outbreaks are cyclical in nature, occurring every about every five years.

Officials at the CDC and the California Department of Public Health also blamed people who weren’t up to date with their immunizations for the spread of the disease.

Today, experts have backed away from some of those assumptions.

'We know there are places around the country where there are large numbers of people who aren't vaccinated,' said Dr. Anne Schuchat, the director for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the CDC, during a recent teleconference. 'However, we don't think those exemptors are driving this current wave.'

New studies published in prominent medical journals have called into question the 85 percent efficacy quoted in the vaccine’s package inserts. For example, one study by scientists at Kaiser Permanente found vaccine effectiveness in Marin County in 2010 to be between 24 and 79 percent for children 2 to 18...."



Dear Chris,

We are much smarter than everyone else. :-) Sorry if that makes you angry.

Happy Thanksgiving and God Bless,



Pediatrician Lawrence Palevsky wrote an article in 2011 in response to a pertussis outbreak. In the article he explains that since pertussis is in the air that everyone breaths that having a highly vaccinated population won't prevent a nonvaccinated person from catching it. Also, he says that a vaccinated person can still breath in pertussis and transmit the virus to someone else. Lots more in his article: http://www.drpalevsky.com/dr_palevsky_letter_pertussis.asp

H. Kovac

Hey Lou,

My husband and I have been researching vaccines for over 25 years. And you know what? There are so many doctors and scientists who disagree with the germ theory and the BELIEF that vaccinating is necessary to survive in this world.
We have two grown children who are vaccine-free and the healthiest people I know. I am so sick of the vaccine believers blaming me or my children for spreading disease...as they have never had anything worse than a cold. They have never had ear infections, asthma, flu, leukemia, cancer or any other disease that is considered normal these days.
So go ahead and believe the doctors who make a great living off of injecting garbage into your children's bloodstreams. Way to go, Dad!


Hi Minerva (cool name, by the way).It took me a little time after reading what you wrote to be able to write back to you with kindness, which any Mom who has had a sick baby deserves. And like others here, I pray your baby is now well.
It would be nice though to think that you would care enough to pray for our kids.
Have you read www.iansvoice.org. ? Their baby died as a result of the Hep B vaccine. DO you shed a tear for that baby too, or does the damage to our babies and children just not count?
Re the pertussis; the vaccine apparently wears off after about five years; it is just as likely that any of the adults around you carried the illness and gave it to your baby; in fact in many adults whooping cough can apparently be mild enough to look like a common cold. Did the adults around you grandparents, aunts, husband etc( and you yourself) all get booster shots just before your baby was born? Of course, given the apparent increasing ineffectiveness of the vaccine, even vaccinated they could still have caught and carried the illness to your baby and others.
Given that you are vaccinating, of course it is still possible that you may end up joining a site like this some day, though I pray your baby survives his shots just fine. I'll take someone being dismissive and hurtful to those who have been injured , over an actual injured child any day of the week..

If you do end up coming back to us angry after a vaccine reaction, and explain how your trust was betrayed by your doctor,, don't worry . We'll understand.
And at that point, you'd probably understand us a lot better too.


"We are the first generation of women in this country to be raised from day one with the idea that we are just as smart, just as worthy, just as capable, and just as equal as anyone else. And we believe that."

Yes and with just a few dozen hours of research we can KNOW more than our "Pediatrician" about the worth and risks of "vaccines". With our self confidence we can stand toe to toe with these tyrants in white and ARGUE, demanding facts and ANSWERS.

In the end we can state: MY decision is my son does not get this series of "shots'.

Way to go MOM!


Department of Education head, Arne Duncan

I often think that if DC just did not exist we would be soooo much better off. The sad truth is DC is one vast incestuous cesspool of disinformation and worse. You cannot remain in power and advocate against any UN Agenda 21 subtext. The Department of "Education" is filling our children's and our minds with all sorts of outlandish and impossible ideas.

Here, from these comments, is one of these ideas.

"I tried to say it was very different but they were all convinced that being overweight is bad, smoking is bad, and not vaccinating is bad - period."

We are to be a country of true believers. The problem they have today is many of these rubbish "ideas" are self contradictory.

Yes I believe 2 + 2 = 5

Yes I believe 2 + 2 = 6


More sickening news, friends. This now happening in Canada.

cia parker

My baby lost her only two words (delayed from reaction to hep-B vax at birth) immediately after getting the DTaP booster at 18 months, was diagnosed with autism two months later. I screamed for days after my first DPT shot at three months (encephalitis), as did my brother. My baby got the DTaP at 2, 4, and 6 months, but caught pertussis anyway at a La Leche League meeting at 8 months old, and gave it to me. It was alarming to cough ten times per breath for both of us, fatiguing, but not dangerous, and after her coughing for over a month and me over two months, we both got well. For a long time I thought that she must have caught it from an unvaxed baby or toddler from the meeting, but I finally realized that it is a hugely ineffective shot. It didn't prevent my daughter from catching or transmitting it, and it is very possible she caught it from a vaxed child in whom it didn't work either. Last year 42,000 Americans were diagnosed with pertussis, many more had it but were undiagnosed, and an estimated 85% of them had been appropriately vaxed but caught it anyway. The old DPT was more effective, but caused so much death and brain damage that it was taken off the market. There's no point in being angry at anyone about your baby having caught it from someone, whether or not they were vaxed. Since it's a dangerous vaccine and often entirely ineffective, it's not ethical or fair to demand that anyone else take the vaccine. Parents must be taught how important it is to keep young newborns (the only ones in danger from the disease) at home or a close equivalent for at least the first few months, preferably cared for by someone who has had the disease and never had the vax, so they will be certain to be unable to give the disease to anyone. High-dose vitamin C and Pertudoron will treat the disease, and the infant must be held upright throughout all coughing fits. And that's just life: respect others and their choices, we have a right to make the best decisions we can for ourselves and our children, keep young infants out of harm's way to the best of our ability, and know how to treat the disease naturally should it occur.

cia parker

Dr. Hickie:
I read here (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/dr-christopher-hickie/tucson-arizona-85747/dr-christopher-hickie-worthless-doctor-tucson-arizona-216851)
that you have called Child Protection Services a number of times, and that the cases were dismissed. Of course I only know what I read at that site, but it made me wonder if you might have called CPS if a parent declined to vaccinate her child the way you thought she should do. Again, I'm not saying that you did, but the site said that there were notices (warnings?) about you on the bulletin boards of several schools in your area. Would you care to comment on this?

Christine Thompson


Thank you for delivering your less than insightful post. Are you the Goddess of wisdom or goddess of war? Perhaps you may choose the Etruscan mode? Sorry, as a white educated mother who has lived in both the suburbs and the city, I'm quite confused. If I remember my Edith Hamilton correctly, Minerva is the Goddess of wisdom, poetry, commerce and medicine - among other fields attributed to her. No matter where you derived your moniker from, it seems you wish to convey upon yourself the self-anointed title of goddess of physicians and good health. Brava! However, despite your child's grave illness you must have failed on a "mommy level" in that the Tdap should be administered to all pregnant women (according to the ACIP) while your child is in utero as of 2012.

As the goddess of physicians and good health you should rightly smite the doctors who haven't worshipped at your feet to come up with a new Tdap vaccine within hours of birth as they have with Hep. B vaccines. Sure, no one wants their 24 hour old infant to be a slutty drug abusing creature plucked out of the womb but whooping cough? We should wait a few weeks longer. Be pissed off at the research scientists and the CDC. Not the parents who visit this site. I'd write more... but I have to use Roundup on my kids cereal.

cia parker

Dr. Hickie:
I'm rereading the second edition of Dr. Sears' The Vaccine Book, which has mini-charts in each chapter indicating for each vaccine-preventable disease on the schedule whether it is common, severe, and treatable. There is NO VPD which is is all three of them. Polio, rotavirus, and the MMR diseases are the only ones not treatable, but polio is inexistent in the US, M, M, and R are usually mild (except rubella for fetuses), and rotavirus is common, but usually relatively mild even for infants, the only group sometimes in danger from it. There is no VPD both common and (often) severe. But if you read his section on aluminum in vaccines, it is chilling to the bones. He presents the evidence that the "safe" dosage of aluminum for infants is 25 mcg, but that the normal schedule of vaccines injects hundreds of times that amount into babies in the first few months. He presents the studies showing that premature infants getting aluminum in IV solutions have a high rate of neurological and cognitive damage at 18 months, and animal studies showing that animals getting amounts of aluminum comparable to what infants receive sustain severe damage, having stored a lot of the aluminum in their brains and bones. The aluminum tangles in the brain resemble those found in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. He presents Dr. O's CHOP brochure saying that because breastfed infants get a certain amount of aluminum in the breast milk, that means that having much greater amounts of aluminum injected into them and absorbed quickly into the blood must be safe. (!) He says that while drugs and IV solutions containing aluminum must have warning labels on the packages, that vaccines, often containing much greater amounts of aluminum, do not, that they must have some sort of exemption to prevent parents from learning of the danger. Mercury is still in many flu vaccines, which, when stored in the brain, as it is in many people, causes many kinds of severe damage. A flyer for Flumist at Schnucks grocery store now recommends giving the mercury-containing version to infants over six months and everyone else up to 65 (except pregnant women, for whom it recommends the "preservative-free" version.
And these are only two of hundreds of serious and frightening dangers of vaccines. Why do you think we are arrogant and foolish to refuse some or all vaccines, when their risks are so much greater than the dangers of the diseases? Just because those hawking the vaccines tell us to?


Chris Hickie: simply put, you are an arrogant dimwit. How funny that you point out the so-called arrogance of others. What's that old saying-- those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?


But Benedetta, Minerva wants it to all be so 'black and white.' She needs to be less angry and get that in life there is grey.


Minerva, as the "science"blogs so cooly say, nothing is perfect. One of my children got pertussis as a toddler after 3 doses of the dpt vaccine. Doc stated she was sure it was pertussis but didn't do lab work. A previous version of the vaccine had a worse safety profile such that even one of my docs didn't give it to their child. We do have a family member who suffered life threatening GB after a flu shot so we do know personally that vaccines can have serious side effects or adverse events associated with them (our doc at the time expressly told her/us it was from the shot- there were many cases in the Hosp that year).
You can say that autism is in the genes all you want but it doesn't make it true. In fact current research shows it more likely to be epi-genetic or environmental (Hallmeyer- largest, most recent twin Study).


Be angry at Pharma and their buddies who are lying and telling you half truths and manipulating: nature in ways that they don't understand, you so they can get into your pockets, and you again, to turn you against your neighbors to protect not your children but their profits:

""There are several theories as to why we're seeing more pertussis," said Dr. Kenneth Bromberg, chairman of pediatrics and director of the Vaccine Research Center at the Brooklyn Hospital Center, in New York City. "One theory is better diagnosis. A second [theory] is that the vaccines are not as good in terms of longevity as the whole-cell vaccine was. The third theory is that there have been genetic changes in the strains of pertussis, such that it makes new strains immune or relatively immune to the current vaccines."


That was in February 2013. Here it is as early as 2010 from The Daily Telegraph:

"Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine
THE bacteria that causes whooping cough has mutated, eroding the protection provided by the vaccine now given to children, scientists warned yesterday."

An 8 week old is best kept away from other people until they are older and stronger. Exclusive breastfeeding on their demand for the first year with foods added to their human milk diet after that will go a long way in protecting them. You won't hear this from Pharma because they not only sell vaccines, they also sell the formula, for a multi-billion dollar profit that they hope will replace breastfeeding, which is free.

I agree with you that no one in this day and age should be dousing their lawns with chemicals, but abstaining from that practice will not protect anyone's kids when they are injected or otherwise exposed to vaccines containing chemicals and substances just as dangerous.



How is your baby? Did it come through the ordeal unscathed?
Two months old - it had to be in the hospital but with antibiotics and care it should be okay? I will give a prayer that - that is so.

Consider this;
When my kids were born, I vaccinated and they were damaged by those DPT shots. I am still dealing with those injuries 30 years later.

It is far more complicated than some one not vaccinating and carrying the disease around.

A few years back there was a lot of vaccinated kids coming down with pertussis in Northern Kentucky even though the vaccination rate was up around 96 percent.

My best friend's grandchild was in the same kindergarten of one kid that came down with whooping cough and even though they were all vaccinated, all of them had to take antibiotics, so they would not get whooping cough too.

Also 30 years back -- I attended a church with my vaccine injuried kids and in the same church was an slightly older girl that had contracted whooping cough at one day old and was brain damaged - the same as my son. She too was having seizures.

She was born at a time when we all trusted vaccines and the vaccine rate in the area was close to 98 percent.

There are a lot of questions that needs to be answered. The biggest question would be -- Why did not the mother have the immune system to protect her new born baby? Why did not the mother's immune system pass immunity to her day old infant? Something was wrong there. Is the vaccines causing the mother not to transfer good immunity to her child, or is the mother's inability to give her child protection for the first year of life her sorry ass genetics?

This immunity from parent to child is very important.
And if you want to study this - instead of slinging hash around you might read up on animal husbandry, lots of literature on the subject..

I raise beef cattle, and if a calf does not receive "ALL" five days of the mother cow's very first milk --no matter how much you nurture them, give tons of antibiotics; in about three months along those calves will just up and die of some kind of infection. That is how important Mother's first milk is. Not only that but a mother's immunity even with out her first milk -- carries over into the first year if not years of life immunity for her baby.

So perhaps you should look to yourself - why your child came down with whooping cough at only two months of age.


Minerva and all,

I think that we all come to our personal beliefs due to our own life experiences. For example, I would very likely have a similar feeling as Minerva had I not witnessed vaccine reactions in my own children. So, Minerva, you can be angry all you want at us... but just know that you know NOTHING about our own life experiences. How about the babies who die from vaccine reactions? Are you angry about that? Do you not believe that happens? How about life altering vaccine damage? Doesn't happen...? There's a part of me that wants to bash you and call you names... but the other side of me, just feels sorry for you. You seem so caught up in your own life experience, that you cannot see many of the life experiences of others here. Open your eyes and your heart to the stories around you. Know that they are true... And then realize that you are venting at people who for the most part believed as you do at one point in time. For many, they are here because they followed their doctors recommendations, they wanted to do the right thing, they wanted to protect their babies as well as your 8 week old baby. We are not the problem. I assure you.

And another thing... it's crazy to me that you seem to be at least minimally concerned about GMO's and toxic lawn products ... and yet want to give injecting toxins into babies a free pass. Why is that? Interesting sociology project there.

Not an MD

Oh, Minerva. What makes you think those of us who understand the stupidity of injecting toxic, animal and human ingredient un-Godly vaccines into our children, are dumb enough to use toxic chemicals on our lawns? Really-- you think that? That goes to prove just how little you understand. I have weeds on my lawn, and I am proud of each and every dandelion and crabgrass plant that grows on it. How about you, Minerva? Are there weeds on your lawn that you can brag about?


I'm an angry white college educated woman. I'm angry at all the mothers not vaccinating their children. I'm angry that my son almost died at 8 weeks old because of contracting pertussis from someone that decided not to vaccinate their toddler. I'm angry that people can't seem to accept that autism is in your DNA !!! Blame the GMO'S , blame all the toxins you put on your lovely green lawns. I live in the city so that I don't have to deal with all the crazy white college educated woman that are happy to put toxins on there lovely green lawns but then blame vaccines for all their kids problems. Now thats crazy!!!!!!

Shell Tzorfas

I once had a client who was a nurse with ill children. Her first one became autistic after vaccines. The second learning disabled and or Dyslexic. By the third child she stopped vaccinating and remained extremely healthy. Then one day she told me that she had worked for an extremely large pediatric group. She was the one who had to speak with parents once their child or infant started seizing right after vaccines. She was the one who fielded the calls when the baby suddenly spiked a fever of 105 or more. She was the one who had to convince the parents that the illness (or worse) was a coincidence or that the baby must have already had a virus before vaccinating. She said she knew it was wrong. The last session I had with one of her children she announced, with tears in her eyes, that she had no choice but to go back to work because she was pregnant and that was the only way that she could secure health insurance. She asked for forgiveness….That was nearly a decade ago. Shell of "Recovering Autism, ADHD, & Special Needs." Come join me on FB.


I would like to know how many children Secy Duncan has raised and educated. Being a Being a Mom is an education in itself. I had three neurotypical children before my second son regressed into autism. Does Secy Duncan think we just wanted to to happen to our child? Really...does she think it is normal for a child to stop talking and playing with toys at two years old? Did she have teachers call for help with her child? As a Mom of 4 and grandmother of 7, I have seen alot of people like Secy Duncan put down and disrespect people, not just stay-at-home Moms,but others who in her eyes are not as successful (even if we are college educated). AND, this is a person who is running our educational system. Really sad. We educated our son...it was hard, it was a battle, it was different than the public education system offered. Wake up to autism, Duncan. If you had been my son's Mom, he would have failed to be educated.

H. Kovac

Thank you, Julie! I truly appreciate your taking the time to write such excellent articles! I will share, share, share!
To Chris Hickie...take yourself to the Wizard of Oz and beg for a heart and then a brain...if you are lucky enough to get either of those you will need some courage to face your corrupted soul.

Georgia Mom

Moms Against Duncan (MAD) facebook group was created to bring outraged mothers together: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MomsAgainstDuncan/

One of the founders of MAD also founded Special Ed Advocates to Stop Common Core, and all four admins of MAD are actively involved with the Special Ed Advocates group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/249171258560458/



Yes, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein has been an instrumental voice in this community - on so many levels. I would encourage you (and all others here) to have a listen to him on Natural News Radio. Big shout out to Dr. Eisenstein and Alan Phillips, who are collaborating together on this radio show to get the news out there regarding concerns with vaccines, education re: the use of exemptions, and a host of other like minded subjects.

FYI - Dr. Eisenstein actually TRAINED with Dr. Robert Mendelsohn.

My one true wish is that more physicians/pediatricians/nurses would speak out on this issue. Dr. Lawrence Palevsky states in public interviews/lectures that he knows there are many others in the medical community who have true concerns not only with the vaccine issue, but re: the indoctrination of false medical paradigms in this country (and around the world).

Kathleen Hallal

Julie, you hit the nail on the head. I am Kathleen, Co-Founder of Moms Across America. We agree with you. And there are LOTS of us. Together with Zen Honeycutt, I co-founded Moms Across America with a mission to educate all mothers about the dangers of GMOs and the accompanying PESTICIDE heavy farming. This generation is consuming record amounts of glyphosate (Roundup) and Bt Toxin every day. My boys have an autoimmune condition that was at a minimum exacerbated by this, but that is, as of yet, not in the medical books. Vaccines may have contributed as well as genetic testing has shown some damage took place after birth. There are hundreds of thousands of kids who have been affected. I have had it! I will be contacting you to talk about how you might be able to join the conversation among us mothers (any race) who have open eyes and who can see how our children are suffering from what is a decidedly corporate interest in Washington. We "EDUCATED" moms are joining forces because unlike many, we have OUR EYES OPEN. We are all MAMA BEARS. Sorry if Chris is not comfortable with that. It is due to that whole "instinct" thing, that and the unfortunate fact (for him) that we are educated. I have spent years researching because no one in "the establishment" could explain what was going on, and I and mothers like me are HELPING THEIR CHILDREN. People like Chris are only good at looking the other way and pretending that there is no health epidemic going on. momsacrossamerica.com


haha, a Psychologist (with no children) comments at RI that Dr. Hickie may not be able to "retort" on this blog. Does she know he pulled a "brave sir robin?" and would not answer questions specifically addressed to him? Ya, I guess that would be too embarassing for them to aknowledge...

Jeannette Bishop

One thing, kind of in defense of Dr. Hickie is that at least he is putting his views--I hope this doesn't encourage him to try to change this part of his practice--out there for all to see/read far and wide. While I don't know if he recognizes he can't force a vaccine, I appreciate him making it clear to those that value the right of such fundamental self-determination to steer clear. That experience in the other thread with a doctor deceptively giving "just one" five-in-one-vaccine (I think as Dr. Tenpenny describes it, more than 5) is ... hard to put into words.

@Bayareamom, thanks from me also for the quotes from Dr. Mendelsohn. I've been listening a little lately to Dr. Eisenstein describe his experiences with him and how he was a Project Head Start director, which I didn't understand to be the case. So, here was another doctor working with children, who actually was in a position to observe the effects of large-scale vaccination practice in children, believed in at least some of them at first, and obviously had no financial or career incentive to speak out against them, but did?

Richard Stands

I am certain...if we dig long and hard enough...we will find a revenue stream supporting Dr. Hickie's position.

Freakonomics revolves around a single simple rule:
People respond to incentives.

As it has been said...time and time again...follow the money...


..."to maintain the illusion. And when that doesn't work there is the "other team" to blame in our "two" party system, never mind how much "bi"-partisanship was involved in setting up the policy), or if we have been systematically indoctrinated to turn our trust against our own instincts and even experience?..."

..."Some "experts" probably know they are playing a dishonest game to advance or keep their position..."

YES - absolutely.

"It also seems some truly believe they are "experts" because the system has told them so as it puts on them the "expert" pedestal..."


"Those who speak out about what they know or see likely to be a problem when it goes against the "mainstream" are marginalized, often mistreated, to our detriment..."

YES; happens all the time.


One of the HARDEST things I've ever had to do, was learning to never put someone - anyone - up on a pedestal. Rest assured, that person that's up on that pedestal (I don't care who it is), will come tumbling down, whether through default or some other reason.

We are all controlled to a certain degree, i.e., controlled by our mass media (significantly controlled by corporate interests, most especially big pharma), our educational system, etc. We've all been indoctrinated into so many false belief systems, it's hard to know where to begin. Learning to think for ourselves - to think outside that box - is something we are told isn't appropriate. We are 'taught' through others, i.e., grandparents, parents, teachers and other so-called authority figures, to listen to THEM, because they know best. Those that have higher education are taught, as Mendelsohn's quotes below testify, through FEAR and ARROGANCE that they know best.

But that's the illusion! They DON'T always know best, but neither do we. But what we CAN do is to listen to our own gut instincts - our hearts - or whatever you want to call it, and learn to trust our SELVES. And I see that in this movement...this vaccine/autism/anti-vaccine, movement.

Even as a kid, I've never flowed with the mainstream and boy, did I ever pay a price for that. What I went through as a kid I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. But it taught me something about myself. That I didn't need to validate myself through someone else's eyes.

I've still made mistakes along the way; we all do. EGO rules in so many ways. But I love a saying that I saw on another blog I posted something on.

A woman wrote to me and said, "Reality is often scoffed at, ILLUSION is KING."

That's a really powerful statement - in so many ways.

This entire vaccine issue was THE platform which propelled me to other sort of 'awakenings.' This world really is not what it seems and for that matter, neither are some people you may know. But unfortunately, it takes most of us that proverbial bash over the head - or bullet to the temple - to WAKE the hell up. Did for me, anyway.

I loved what you wrote, Jeanette; it resonates.


Earlier this month I attended a talk at a medical school aimed at health care providers about "tailored" messaging to improve uptake of vaccines. I guess "tailored" is different than "targeted" (like at Walgreens), being even more individualized and personal. I was outraged and let them know how I wanted a meaningful discussion with my doctor rather than some message generated to trick me into submission without thinking further. Others didn't seem to feel my anguish at the suggestion, indicating that this technique worked well for weight loss or smoking cessation. I tried to say it was very different but they were all convinced that being overweight is bad, smoking is bad, and not vaccinating is bad - period.

False Skeptics Make Me Laugh

"What you sadly prove is that you can go to college with minds of mush and graduate college with an even mushier mind--full of arrogance towards any/all who don't agree with you."

The amount of hypocrisy in that statement would make Rush Limbaugh cringe...


Interesting quote Carol.

My son's pediatrician has terrible allergies. Practically everytime we see him-which isn't too often he is suffering miserably. I've never asked him why he thinks he is so allergic. We dont discuss vaccines since I told him many years ago my son wouldn't be getting anymore. But, I imagine he practices what he preaches and gets them for himself.

Jeannette Bishop

It's funny how they are half saying "think for yourselves," "don't be a groupie" at the same time really saying to "get with the mainstream," "stay with the group."

Attacking the few for not being quiet about the negative effects of what may be the most immune-toxic, neurotoxic-neonatal-government-recommended environment ever employed on this scale and now seeing government further claim that some of the results of this "mysterious concern" indicate we need to give them more "control," this time in education...

I'm feeling less and less educated lately and more and more misled. I've had to really look at the effects of "healthcare" in my life and those around me. I'm also now relearning U.S. history a bit. Do you know how often the problems we "needed" government to fix were already stemming from government involvement in the first place?

I'm trying to figure out if it is in human nature generally to trust "leaders" over ourselves, which might be a good thing in a morally governed society (I know some of us have been raised to believe we, "the people," govern, but the representative elements of our government have been neutralized or bought to a very great extent, and I think we are often left to just adopt policies as our own, identify with them no matter the actual effects to maintain the illusion. And when that doesn't work there is the "other team" to blame in our "two" party system, nevermind how much "bi"-partisanship was involved in setting up the policy), or if we have been systematically indoctrinated to turn our trust against our own instincts and even experience?

But even when life forces one to get over that somewhat, wherever it comes from it, is still really hard to have the time or resources to verify and research everything for oneself. Some "experts" probably know they are playing a dishonest game to advance or keep their position. It also seems some truly believe they are "experts" because the system has told them so as it puts on them the "expert" pedestal. Those who speak out about what they know or see likely to be a problem when it goes against the "mainstream" are marginalized, often mistreated, to our detriment. Thank you.


If they won't believe mothers, maybe they'll believe Ken Alibek. Dr. Alibek was the head of the Soviet biological warfare program (the cover for which was vaccine manufacturing, btw). In _Biohazard_ Dr. Alibek talks about the health effects of the many vaccines he received as an adult:

"I have lost all sense of smell and have the broadest range of allergies of anyone I know. I can't eat butter, cheese, eggs, mayonnaise, sausages, chocolate, or candy. I swallow two or three pills of anti-allergy medicine a day--more on bad days, when my sinuses start to drain. Every morning I rub ointment over my face, neck, and hands to give my skin the natural lubricants it has lost. The countless vaccinations I received against anthrax, plague, and tularemia weakened my resistance to disease and probably shortened my life....It is not medically advisable to combine too many courses of vaccination."


I heard the "apology" this morning....didn't sound like an apology to me. He said it was "clumsy" but not that he regretted saying it or that it was misinterpreted. That was no apology.

So, Chris Hickey, it is ok for educated, middle and upper class white men to make fun of and bully anyone who doesn't believe as they do? That is exactly what you, Paul Offit, Arne Duncan, Gorski, et al do every.single.day. As history has shown us repeatedly, not a good strategy.

I can't emphasize enough how important the parental rights amendment is.


Hey there Laura Hayes!

Hope all is well with you! But sad to say, our medical/nursing schools have ALWAYS been big pharma funded, therefore the curriculum has always been propagated/funded by the big drug guys. It's what makes the world wag, unfortunately.

These guys will end up shooting themselves in the foot, if they haven't done so already. The more they increase the number of injections on their never ending 'vacc them all, agendas,' the more they harm.

The more people they harm, the more the outcry. I can feel this thing building to a crescendo. It's just a matter of time.


David Granovsky

Seems like the "hysterical soccer moms" whining about vaccine issues have more and more PhDs backing their arguments every day.
Johns Hopkins Scientist Slams Flu Vaccine


Great post, Julie.
If they are calling us names that means they know we are winning, as we are boycotting and ignoring them and their genocidal propaganda. They are scared of us, because they are loosing money they have been making by killing and maiming our children. They should be scared of us. And let's remember that criminal regimes were always afraid of educated people, whom they called - dissidents. We are in fact vaccine dissidents and have no intention of changing it.


Chirs Hickie;
I see you have made a comment on at least two articles.
If you will let me, I will try to help you.

Let me explain to you how it is personally, since you want to gloss it over in part of your comment;
"They go in with a mind full of mush, and come out with a mind filled with mush"

In 1978 I was majoring in microbiology, Chirand took a class called infectious diseases. This was a class that crossed over with several majors including nursing students -the class was "Infectious Diseases", and it was held in huge class room that probably held 200 of us.

Each class meeting the professor used at least 15 minutes - not to talk about some infectious disease, but to preach to us - not lecture about wonderful vaccines, and how that some parents were claiming that their kids were damaged by vaccines.

Dr. Otero (I feel nothing about protecting his reputation or name) pointed out in very strong language, that they were mistaken, that neurological events of these children were set in motion in the womb and by genetics. That a certain amount of children reaches a young age seemly normal, and then suddenly these neurological events are set in motion. Since every child is vaccinated around that time of course the vaccines were going to be blamed.

I was fired up because I was young, very shy, and very timid. I had a mind being filled with mush , but oh, I so did want to excel in life.
I believed ever word he said.

One night after a long preachy lecture on it a nurse raised her hand and spoke up. (there are different kinds of nurses, different levels of education, and her dream was to be a RN nurse with a BS degree). This nurse was working her way through college as a nursing assistant at a rural hospital and - she bravely held up her hand. She said to Professor Otero; What am I suppose to tell these parents that have witnessed a sudden change "right" after a vaccine, they rush their baby to the emergency room, some times with life threatening conditions, definitely something is wrong, and they tell me it was the vaccine because they just had a vaccine?

She was confronting him!

I was embarrassed (I put my hands over my face, I could not even listen to the exchange that went back and forth between the two). My mind was so full of mush that I was too embarrassed to even listen to the conversation.

Oh, sure, Dr. Otero during that science/nursing course; during his preaching. said things that raised suspicions in my mind like: "Vaccines never cause problems -- because they just don't". We as students were being trained to follow bio pathways and the "just don't" -just like "Never" raised suspicion.

Sure' the text books said that some diseases the vaccine did not hold up very long and there had to boosters -- and from my training in other (more actually science) classes I was taught that the more a subject was exposed to a substance the more probability it was that that substance could give rise to an allergic reaction. Vaccines though were not mentioned in these classes as a substance because they were just magic. But I allowed my professor to do all the thinking for me.

In my defense; I have very few defenses except ignorance and faith in the devil , but I was not a rich suburban yuppie as they called it. I was a person that came from a long line of rural, Appalachian people that lived on the edge of poverty. I had the fire to climb out of that edge of poverty and my rope was education. I thought Dr. Otero was holding that rope for me.

I was a good athlete, but there were no sports for women at that time. Apparently in my state the claim was that some girl was killed about 20 (just guessing) prior while playing basketball and so girls were not allowed. I was one heck of a horse person though, and rode everyday, my balance was very good and I did it a lot bare back. Neither of my kids have the balance I have, even though my husband was a great athlete too. So much for what vaccines brought us. .

Years later I find out that Dr. Otero was not only a professor, but managed and owned a big lab that a lot of the big hospitals in the area sending a lot of their patients test to him. The lab was financed by Merck.

Oh, that is why he took up half the wall in the incubation room for half of a semester growing TB collected from patients.

After I vaccinated my first child it ran temperatures of 105-106. The doctors said that was fine. Although when I was growing up - no kid ran a temperature above 103 that I ever heard of -- maybe for a short time 104, and certain no 106. The doctors gave me the same speech as Dr. Otero, so I kept vaccinating. (Must have been some Merck, speech writer somewhere passing it out to all of them) .When my eldest daughter came down with Kawasaki while I was getting my master's degree, the young doctors showed us some silly study about wet carpets..

My husband said to me that he was reading else where that a lot of people are thinking it was the vaccines. I thought for one second -- if that long, and answered him that it had been almost 7 weeks since that vaccine -- no way.

Oh, but yes way, and I found that in the literature - under serum sickness. -Not until my son reacted three different times after each vaccine -- as the pediatricians "bullied" me and even gave me the same exact lecture as Dr. Otero had given me 10 years prior--It took actually observation on my part for my mush filled brain to start to solidify into brain gel.

Even at that my husband kept vaccinating himself (worship of doctors mush in his brain), and we got 2 great almost instant reactions which lead to a life time decline of health before his mushy brain solidified into brain gel. .

No, I did not go into the University with a mind of mush -- just empty. I was ignorant and unsophisticated. I did however; come out with a mind filled with mush.

And what of these young nursing students that get more than one of these nursing types of classes?
They don't stand a chance.

Laura Hayes

LOVE the Dr. Mendelsohn quotes…thank you Bayareamom! His books should be required reading for med school students. Oh wait, it's not med school anymore, it's Big pHARMa school, with the curriculum now happily provided by pharmaceutical companies!


Dr. Hickie is obviously a coward and could not answer the questions posed to him in the previous article he commented on. He could not because his whole system of logic would have collapsed. Either he would have had to concede that it is possible the adoptive mom should get a second opinion and perhaps choose the safer choice of fewer shots or admit that CDC's own recommended advice is not right. Or even state that there is no such thing as an adverse event after a vaccine, which is clearly not true. Spouting off angrily like that with no substance and cowardice does not reflect well on his profession. Glad my doc is not like that.
I think it's simply the case that with older persons speaking out (be they of any race or sex) about having experienced side effects (such as Gardasil- and that one poor lady who had had such a bad reaction to a late MMR) that it will become a lot harder to sweep under the rug. Even in their silly words what they are admitting is that a significant portion of people are beginning to opt out of such an expanded schedule. I really think they have no-one to blame but themselves.



We ARE the other parents of this country.


..."What you sadly prove is that you can go to college with minds of mush and graduate college with an even mushier mind--full of arrogance towards any/all who don't agree with you..."

Huh. Interesting words coming from a 'physician.'

Here are some wonderful Dr. Robert Mendelsohn quotes:

"Despite the tendency of doctors to call modern medicine an 'inexact science', it is more accurate to say there is practically no science in modern medicine at all. Almost everything doctors do is based on a conjecture, a guess, a clinical impression, a whim, a hope, a wish, an opinion or a belief. In short, everything they do is based on anything but solid scientific evidence. Thus, medicine is not a science at all, but a belief system. Beliefs are held by every religion, including the Religion of Modern Medicine."

Robert Mendelsohn, MD -

"When I was Senior Pediatric Consultant to the Department of Mental Health in Illinois, I cut out a certain kind of operation that was being performed on mongoloid children with heart defects. The stated purpose of the operation was to improve oxygen supply to the brain. The real purpose, of course, was to improve the state's residency programs in cardiovascular surgery, because nothing beneficial happened to the brains of mongoloid children—and the surgeons knew that. The whole idea was absurd. And deadly, since the operation had a fairly high mortality rate. Naturally, the university people were very upset when I cut out the operation. They couldn't figure out a better use for the mongoloid children, and, besides, it was important to train people.In prepaid group practices where surgeons are paid a steady salary not tied to how many operations they perform, hysterectomies and tonsillectomies occur only about one-third as often as in fee-for-service situations."

Ritual Mutilations by Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D.

And this gem:

"Medical students are further softened up by being maliciously fatigued. The way to weaken a person’s will in order to mold him to suit your purposes is to make him work hard, especially at night, and never give him a chance to recover. You teach the rat to race. The result is a person too weak to resist the most debilitating instrument medical school uses on its students: FEAR."

"If I had to characterize doctors, I would say their major psychological attribute is fear. They have a drive to achieve security-plus that’s never satisfied because of all the fear that’s drummed into them in medical school: fear of failure, fear of missing a diagnosis, fear of malpractice, fear of remarks by their peers, fear that they’ll have to find honest work. There was a movie some time ago that opened with a marathon dance contest. After a certain length of time all the contestants were eliminated except one. Everybody had to fail except the winner. That’s what medical school has become. Since everybody can’t win, everybody suffers from a loss of self-esteem. Everybody comes out of medical school feeling bad."

"Doctors are given one reward for swallowing the fear pill so willingly and for sacrificing the healing instincts and human emotions that might help their practice: ARROGANCE. To hide their fear, they’re taught to adopt the authoritarian attitude and demeanor of their professors."

Dr. Robert Mendelsohn - Confessions of a Medical Heretic

stella's mom

"Wow, Chris Hickie's post has shown me the light. Parents of children with autism are just angry, and their minds have turned to mush. There must be no validity to their concerns about vaccines or the common core." Said no person ever.


I am generally no fan of the public school system, but I appreciate the strength and dedication that it takes to work within it and I have to say that your students are very fortunate to have you as their teacher.

Word problems in 1st grade? That is beyond ridiculous. Some children don't normally read until age 7 or even later. Twenty years ago they were still teaching basic reading skills in the first grade. Now they expect kids not only to read at age 6, but well enough to solve word problems? That is so abusive.

cia parker

Dr. Hickie:
I'm sure you saw the commenters who asked you on the Weekly wrap article several specific, numbered questions as to what course you would advise the parents to take, and what they should ask the doctors to do (it's the parents' call, remember), in a specific, carefully described case of vaccine damage. Would you just ignore the reaction as having violated your principles and just soldier on, or would you take appropriate possibly ameliorative action?

I know you are, Chris

"What you sadly prove is that you can go to college with minds of mush and graduate college with an even mushier mind--full of arrogance towards any/all who don't agree with you."

Chris, we think you project too much!

More and more people (not just parents of children with autism) are waking up to the fact that you and your ilk are not the boss of us. Thousands of people die every year at the hands of doctors and that doesn't even count cases of medical error. Because YOU bought into a paradigm you think everyone else should too and because this myopic view of medicine is so ingrained in your brain, when challenged you can only resort to ridiculing the challengers and spewing vitriol.

The days of slapping on a white coat and expecting instant authority and respect are done. Maybe your anger comes from feeling duped yourself as I imagine the reality of a profession dictated to by corporations can’t feel good. But heck, if you can’t beat ‘em, join em eh Chris?

Laura Hayes

Julie, keep on writing…you're educating the world!

Chris, keep on writing…you're exposing yourself, and other ignorant, arrogant, bullying doctors like yourself, for whom you really are!

And by the way, Chris, please stop using the tired and erroneous argument that our issue with one another is simple disagreement. Disagreement with you is simply a fact, not the problem. The problem is that you, and your brand of colleagues, want to force your ways on us, and we want no part of it. As I wrote to Dorit Reiss in a comment recently, you/she are free to vaccinate your children with any and all legally-approved vaccines, beginning in utero. No one is stopping you, and as a matter of fact, you can even do it on my dime, as my tax dollars are unfortunately helping to pay for all of the "free" vaccines available everywhere. However, others deserve the same freedom to choose not to vaccinate their children, as they see fit, without any bullying, coercion, or laws preventing them from doing so, and without having to fill out a state-prescribed exemption form.

Chris, if you would take but just a few minutes of your time everyday, you could read daily accounts of children worldwide being injured and killed by vaccines (read the VacTruth article today, for but one example). Who are you to say that we parents here on Age of Autism and elsewhere did not witness, firsthand, vaccine injury, and possibly vaccine-induced death, in our children? Were you there when the assault happened? Were you in the bedroom with the severely sick child at all hours of the night wondering what's wrong? Are you now living with an adult child who can't ever be left unattended, who has severely limited communication skills, who will never be able to live independently, and who might still be in diapers, all due to his vaccines? It is preposterous to think that any parent should be forced, coerced, or mandated to allow a medical procedure for their child that has the potential to cause permanent disability, make him chronically ill, or kill him…utterly preposterous.

Please do not respond that all parents/people are free to choose. Parents on any type of government assistance have had that choice removed. They either fully comply with the CDC-recommended vaccine schedule, or they lose their government assistance. Those who enlist in the military have no choice, not even a medical exemption for those who have already been harmed by vaccines or who know that they have contraindications for being vaccinated. Nurses across the country are being forced to quit their jobs if they refuse certain vaccines. Furthermore, in a growing number of states, it is getting harder and harder to obtain a vaccine exemption for one's child, and oftentimes, parents are not even informed that they have the right to utilize an exemption. Medical tyranny has arrived here in the U.S.A., home of the "free", thanks to doctors like you. It was medical tyranny like we are now experiencing that led to the writing of the Nuremberg Code, of which the U.S. is a signor. Seems like some in the U.S., including you, have forgotten that we have agreed to that code of ethics. We are returning to a Nazi-like era, and you, Chris, are a part of that. Shame on you and others like you who think they have the right to exert harmful power over others.

cia parker

This debate is becoming increasingly inflamed because of the solidarity of moms everywhere who trust one another more than we trust capitalist pharma interests. Many are refusing vaccines for their undamaged children because they believe our accounts of our own children's extreme damage. In the words of another great man, Martin Niemuller, "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me."


Chris, I think you've missed the point. Why would you take personal pot shot at any individual who does not want to be summarily dismissed because of their demographic profile? Minds of mush? Really. Your post is typical of what we see over and over and over, ad nauseum. Personal attacks and sarcasm. Never anything of substance or integrity. Go away and grow up.

deborah lang

Julie you are a ROCK STAR in my book. I wish I could write like that. You nailed it and I am loving it. THANK YOU.


Attention parents of patients of Dr. Hickie.......run.....I would never want such an angry condescending prick "caring" for my child's health needs.

He is a not so shining example of pediatric physicians.

Great Article Julie.

John Stone

And note the humble Dr Hickie did not return to answer his crtics on Dan's Weekly Wrap:


I don't think we are arrogant on AoA, just very fed up with executive flannel. To paraphrase the ancient Rabbi Hillel we are for ourselves, but not only for ourselves, and we speak to the needs of the present time.


"If we think you are wrong, we’ll tell you. If we think you haven’t done your homework, we’ll find the research for you.
If you won't help our sick children, we'll heal them ourselves. And if you mess with our kids, well, you better just watch out. Hell hath no fury like a mother of this generation scorned."

I love every word of this. And this too:

"If challenging medical and educational authority scares you today, just wait until our daughters grow up."

Hear hear from this suburban white mom - who by the way watched her 1st grade son cry repeatedly over his common core word problems homework last year which as the first year cc was in our schools.

Here was a little first grader who's supposed to love school and learning - bringing home homework that his Harvard grad dad couldn't do...because it was so poorly written it made no sense whatsoever and could not be solved...by anyone ever.

Proofread Arne. Proofread your materials before putting them out there.

And then, damnit, start the first graders with simple word problems. Not the ones that require 2 or 3 equations to figure out. That is no way to treat a first grader.

Mary R.

Wow Chris, a tad arrogant yourself I see. Obviously not a parent of a child with autism.

Michael Smith

Great points Julie. I do feel the need to again address the point that as a community we continuously shoot ourselves in the foot with one gender parenting narrative and assumptions. This is especially true when it comes to real and effective advocacy. In my state it was a couple dads who changed the laws on vaccines, vaccine choice, autism education and autism insurance coverage. I also know many fathers actively involved in their children's education and medical management. They can read and analyze labs and IEP drafts like a sports handicapper reading statistics. Autism Moms, if you want better overall system change for autism, vaccines, education and medical freedom you really need to avoid this one gender assumption and narrative because you are essentially making it harder to achieve your goals and the goals of many parents. There is some truth in what Mr Duncan said. I don't think he was referring to only vaccine choice. Most parents make medical decisions together. Leadership is hard. Democracy is not free. Want change? Make it happen legislatively, without the hero worship. Many women who are great advocates will agree more than half the moms do not advocate for their kids and just accept what is being spoon fed to them. The dads deferring to these moms without involvement are also failing their children. Thousands with vaccine injured children will go get their kids flu shots this week and accept and inadequate IEP with only 30 minutes a week of speech therapy for their mostly non verbal child. Want to change education and medical policy and make it better for your kids and others? The answer is by collaboratively getting into the trenches and working to shape education policy and legislative policy. Sadly, less than 1% of our community has done that. Those that do can move mountains for our kids and thousands of families. We need to spend our energies being proactive and not reactive. Change will happen at the State level and likely not in Washington. Persuade State policy makers by showing up, presenting and getting the media in the fold and you will see the changes you are looking for. As a father who spent a couple thousand hours at my state Capitol in NY I can count the number of moms on one hand who attended more than one vaccine, special education or autism related meeting or hearing. This must change for you to achieve your goals for your kids and others. You have the knowledge and facts. You only have to collaborate and execute with legislation and policy. I hope to see more of the "moms" at my State Capital in early 2014 as we shape education, vaccine and autism policy that will positively affect thousands and blaze there trail for millions. We must not fail these millions of kids.

tara mcmillan

I don't understand it when men and other women get mad because we are mad. I am sure if it was Mr. Duncan calling out black women, or gay men.... that there would be an uproar and he would have to do some backpedaling, or even resign.

Because it's just "Educated White Women"--- we are like the Sarah Palin's--- the ones who don't know what they are talking about... (sorry Sarah-- I think you are awesome)

We - I say we because I am somewhat educated ( 2 years of college) -- after those two years I realized that the amount of debt I was sinking my family into was not worth it.

As for the target of "white women"---- I think that's a target because who has children that are vaccine injured... in such a huge demographic-- race wise? It's the white women's families.

We are mad. We are on the ball... and we are not going to give up our rights, or play by rules that are made to make us roll over and be sheeple that so many others have already become....

Maurine Meleck

What an absolutely terrific post. I come from an earlier generation where the only sport girls were allowed to play at school was tennis. But raising a child on the spectrum by myself has put me front and center with the younger generation of "so-called" white educated women.


Chris Hickie said "What you sadly prove is that you can go to college with minds of mush and graduate college with an even mushier mind--full of arrogance towards any/all who don't agree with you."

Ironically this is exactly how we Thinking Moms view many in the medical profession who can't think for themselves and are too weak to question the safety of the medical establishments vaccination policy. Critical thinking among medical professionals on the US governments overly aggressive vaccination program is rare but I have utmost respect for those who have the courage and strength to speak out.


Hey Chris Hickie-

Do you have a school age child in the public school system? If so, you would understand what Julie is saying. The schools are subject to highly onerous and counterproductive regulations like NCLB and are constantly introducing "new initiatives" (read "new products from large corporations") that are similarly counterproductive. The result, among other things, is unending testing, unending homework, unending curriculum changes, greatly reduced instructional time in the classroom and precious little learning for our kids within the school day. You truly have to experience it to believe it.

Some of us white (and non-white), educated moms (and dads) have done research into the roots of the insanity they call education today, and have uncovered the usual culprits (and the same forces at play in the autism treatment world)- corporate corruption and cronyism. If you are interested in learning more, you can start your research by looking into the origins of NCLB and watching the excellent documentary film "Race to Nowhere". You might also look at all the dishonest statements of the Business Roundtable, the National Governors Association and other such groups who constantly trumpet the lie that our graduates are not prepared for 21st century employment and that employers cannot find qualified candidates to fill current job openings (all this while America is awash in unemployed or underemployed talent)--a ruse for outsourcing to lower cost labor markets which is lapped up by drones like Arne Duncan who thinks he can fix the manufactured problem by making education "more rigorous".

Our children are losing our childhoods to this mess, and we are paying for it with our tax dollars. I salute Julie for standing up and making her voice (and mine!) heard.


People think, but not always critically. Big difference. Great blog Julie. Thank you! In auditoriums across this country thinking parents are standing up to the bullying of our educators, parents and most important...our children. Reports of children suffering issues with stress to the extent of requiring meds, cutting themselves and causing self-injurious behaviors, not wanting to return to school and on and on since the implementation of CC in public schools. People who do not regard these incidents as important enough to re-evaluate what is being perpetrated against our children, particularly our children with disabilities, aren't thinking at all. They are buying into propaganda or thinking about what's best for themselves.

Cat Jameson

All of your posts are powerful, eloquent and from the heart, but this is one of the best pieces you have ever written, Julie!


Bravo!! As an educator and working mom I totally agree with your summation. My two girls (vaccine injured) are now in college and are fighting environmental toxins, male misogyny, and a broken health care system. Because of biomed they are 4.0 students who won't take any crap from the education and medical establishments. They have been injured, they understand the "denial" and they are going to tell everyone they know how our government turned it's back on "real science" and produced the sickest generation of kids on the planet. Information is power but only when you act on it. Keep up the informative essays and God bless "Age of Autism"!

Not an MD

FABULOUS article, Julie! I see someone's big boy panties are in a bunch quite early this morning, and I am quite certain others will be very uncomfortable with this piece as well. They should feel that way considering the many truths you have exposed. I hope they squirm.

A mother's understanding of science and her innate maternal wisdom, devoid of industry corruption and industry influence, are not indicative of stupidity, but rather of raw intelligence. Scary and powerful stuff, indeed.

Carry on, Julie! There is immense power in what you write and in what you believe.

Chris Hickie

Your conceit that you are "thinking whatevers" is an insult to the other parents of this country, for the implication of the label you so vainly boast is that no one else could ever possibly think as well as you do. Please stop and think about that for a moment. What is more likely--that you are much smarter than everyone else, or vice versa?

What you sadly prove is that you can go to college with minds of mush and graduate college with an even mushier mind--full of arrogance towards any/all who don't agree with you. No wonder I see lots of essays on here about how you never seem to have neighbors who understand you. Your neighbors actually do understand you.

But do keep hanging together and boasting of how great and wonderful and angry you are to the whole world. Please...do.

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