Dachel Media Update: Slate Hate, HPV Vax & Early Menopause
Read Anne's comments after the jump.
August 13, 2013, Slate.com: Endangering the Herd--The case for suing parents who don't vaccinate their kids-or criminally charging them
August 13, 2013, Health Impact News: Study: HPV Vaccine Linked to Premature Menopause in Young Girls
August 13, 2013, USA Today: Brain changes of autism may begin in the womb
Slate.com
"What if a mother decided not to vaccinate her daughter for measles, based on rumors that the vaccine causes autism, and her daughter gets the disease at the age of 4 and passes it to a 1-year-old, who is too young for the vaccine, at her day care center. And what if that baby dies?
"... 'One can make a legitimate, state-sanctioned choice not to vaccinate,' the bioethicist Arthur L. Caplan and his co-authors write, 'but that does not protect the person making that choice against the consequences of that choice for others.' Since epidemiologists today can reliably determine the source of a viral infection, the authors argue, a parent who decides not to vaccinate his kid and thus endangers another child is clearly at fault and could be charged with criminally negligent homicide or sued for damages. ...
"Here's why the anti-vaxxers are wrong and Caplan and his co-authors are right to raise the idea of suing or criminally charging them: Parents who choose not to vaccinate their kids for reasons of personal belief pose a serious danger to the public..."
My comments were removed after being flagged as "propaganda." I had only posted two of them when they were pulled. Propaganda? Really? Look at the other comments!
Arthur Caplan hasn't even seen a real increase in autism---he's perfect for this.
Excuse me, but please explain WHY doctors can't be sued for vaccine damage but parents should be sued if they don't vaccinate. That's a lose--lose situation.
Health Impact News
"Dr. Deirdre Little, a pediatrician in Australia, was the first one to sound the alarm over the HPV vaccine causing premature menopause when she observed it in one of her 16 year old patients in 2012. Dr. Little published a paper in the British Medical Journal warning that the premature menopause of a healthy 16-year-old girl may be linked to the Gardasil vaccination. You can watch an 8 minute interview with Dr. Little."
USA Today
"Two new studies add to a growing body of evidence pointing to pregnancy as a critical period in the brain changes that lead to autism.
"One study, published Tuesday in Annals of Neurology, finds a four-fold increase in autism among women who had very low levels of a key thyroid hormone, called thyroxine. Researchers found the link in a study of more than 4,000 Dutch mothers and children. Doctors took blood samples from women around the 13th week of pregnancy, then followed up six years later, asking women to fill out a standard psychological checklist about the child's behavior and emotional traits.
"A second study, published Monday in JAMA Pediatrics, notes that pregnant women who have their labor started or sped up artificially are slightly more likely to have autistic children....
"Science has ruled out vaccines as a cause of autism, says Gregory, who notes that the original myth about autism and immunizations arose from bogus research that has since been retracted.
"About one in 88 American children have an autism diagnosis, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
Another opportunity to remind us that the link to vaccines has been debunked. I posted comments.
What if the parents of 5,000 children decided to vaccinate them according to the standard schedule (or maybe didn't even consciously decide, but just did it) and their children had vaccine reactions and then regressed into autism? And what if all these parents filed claims with the vaccine court, and all their claims were turned down in one big omnibus proceeding and they were told that vaccines never cause autism, that they were delusional, and that believing in an autism-vaccine link is like believing six impossible things before breakfast?
If that happened, would it kind of shake a lot of people's confidence in the vaccine program?
Posted by: Twyla | August 24, 2013 at 01:29 AM
I heard on The People's Pharmacy over the weekend, Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum was saying if you had 1000 people in a room and all were exposed to flu virus, most likely only 2 or 3 of them would catch the flu. Most would avoid getting sick by getting enough Vitamin A, zinc, sunshine, sleep, taking care of their health, generally. It would seem cruel to blame people who get sick for not taking care of themselves. Sometimes they can't help it. I mention this only to show how unfair it would be to blame people who don't vaccinate when others get sick. http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2013/08/17/-914-finding-the-root-causes-of-illness/
Posted by: Christina Waldman | August 19, 2013 at 08:21 PM
Re:HPV vaccine
This vaccine also contains l-histidine. Did anyone did any research to find out if THE IMMUNE SYSTEM COULD PRODUCE L-HISTIDINE ANTIBODIES? Histamines play a major role at around day five(after conception) when the fertlized ova tries to implant in the endometrium (inside lining of the uterus).Any hormonal imbalance or immune system abnormalities can interfere with this delicate process.Merck fast-tracked this vaccine without any LONG-TERM research.Now after 25 million plus of this garbage aluminum/boric acid/polysorbate vaccine the parents can read
that it can cause Autoimmune/Inflammatory Syndromes.The 9-14 years old will pay a very heavy price for this aggressive
vaccine marketing and the lies Merck fed to them.
THANK YOU Dr.Deirdre Little for sounding the alarm.
Posted by: oneVoice | August 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Re HPV, just saw this article:
"Does my twelve year old need the HPV vaccine already?
The HPV vaccine offers the best protection before kids become sexually active"
By Sally Wadyka Jul 22, 2013 6:09PM
http://healthyliving.msn.com/blogs/ask-a-doctor-blog-post?_blg=2&post=e0ebbcf2-86ac-4da0-99db-2ec6d060e586
No, I'm not surprised at the article. What almost knocked me off my chair is the accompanying photo of the smiling white coated stethoscope wearing woman holding an uncapped loaded syringe over a little girl's arm. Check it out. Both appear to be Asian, maybe Japanese? Somebody help me.
(So new AOA readers don't think I'm being racist, as AOA reported 2 months ago, the Japanese government withdrew recommendation for HPV vax on June 15, 2013 because of adverse event concerns. http://www.examiner.com/article/japanese-govt-withdraws-their-recommendation-of-hpv-vaccine-due-to-safety)
Posted by: Linda | August 17, 2013 at 01:32 PM
Rae, I like your train of thought, and there are a few more possibilities. The mother with a poorly functioning thyroid, is also, in many cases the mother who eats a lot of fish(mercury) and/or takes flu vaccines yearly and has mercury laden dental amalgams in her mouth. Her infant, at birth is off to a flying start in the autism race.
And for Mr. Caplan's new legal system- I hope that the four year olds parents get to mount a defence that the one year old's parents did not see to it that her vitamin D level was adequate and negligently gave the child Tylenol, which depleted the child's glutathione proteins that fight viruses- and so on.
Posted by: Cherry Sperlin Misra | August 16, 2013 at 01:38 PM
"What if a mother decided not to vaccinate her daughter for measles, based on rumors that the vaccine causes autism, and her daughter gets the disease at the age of 4 and passes it to a 1-year-old, who is too young for the vaccine"
What if the CDC is lying to us about Measles transmission?
Here is what they say about seasonal flu transmission.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm
This is demonstrably incorrect.
http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot.htm
Here is what the CDC says about measles transmission
http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/transmission.html
Does this not sound like it was written from the same template used for the seasonal flu?
We know the measles virus is endemic to the human GI tract. Under God's nature this virus is expressed ONCE and the individual develops natural immunity to the virus which will remain endemic in his body until the day he dies. Under man's "vaccination" all hell breaks loose with the natural order.
We should know the CDC is lying to us about seasonal flu transmission. Why would they not lie about measles transmission?
Could the expression of measles like the expression of seasonal flu be mediated by an agent like vitamin D?
Sure it could.
We live in a sea of lies. One thing I am fairly sure of, we live and die by the graces or OUR OWN immune system. If you have a virus I will have the exact same virus unless I live in the woods with no human communication. If you die from the exact same virus I thrive on who is to "blame"?
Posted by: Lou | August 16, 2013 at 11:22 AM
the article about Gardisil causing early menopause in teen girls doesn't surprise me if you put it in the context of population control. Consider the fact that many children dxed with autism will never go onto to marry or reproduce, it puts into focus that this is really a global push for vaccination is really a global population control program under the guise of health protection. Duplicity is b/c the most members of the public would never voluntarily participate in population control.
Posted by: SarahW | August 15, 2013 at 03:02 PM
Os all the silican valley prosperous folks don't vaccinate. They had a high rate of atuism - I would dare say they did.
Also what was that study a few years ago - the higher the education the better chance of you have a kid with autism --
Experience fot both me and a generation later - my daughter makes it plain that the more educated you are the longer you have been exposed to professors at the Universities preach (I did describe that correctly) like a Baptist Preacher on a Sunday preaching about "Come to Christ and be saved" on the subject of "Vaccines"
Posted by: Benedetta | August 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Otto,
All those things, but also your earning capacity is likely to be greatly enhanced by not having to look after a vaccine damaged child!!!
John
Posted by: John Stone | August 15, 2013 at 08:55 AM
Hi John:
I would suggest that to the extent that prosperity is associated with higher level of education, then I can see a connection.
Slate ascribed it to a snotty elitist "my kid gets the same shot as a kid from East LA?" mentality- with not a shred of proof. Actually wrote that because vaccines are designed for everyone, the rich don't want them because they don't have a special designer label choice of vaccine to put them above the unwashed hoi polloi....
My guess is that vaccine refusal/hesitancy is more prevalent among richer, more educated families because they have more experience with critical thinking and data analysis. It brings to mind the doc from Simpsonwood (was it a Dr. Johnson?) who announced that he was advising his kid to not vaccinate his newborn male because of the thimerosal/iatrogenic brain injury connection discussed (and "embargoed" from public discussion)at the industry/media/gov't conference.
Unless, John, I am missing some degree of subtle sarcasm on your part- I agree that more prosperous folks are less likely to vaccinate, that I believe has been a thorn in the side of vaccine propagandists for some time...Instead of cogently investigating why prosperous folks are vaccine hesitant, Slate chooses instead to make stuff up. Interviewing actual prosperous, vaccine hesitant families I suspect would be embarrassing, as they would be interviewing the people who tell them what to write...
Posted by: Ottoschnaut | August 15, 2013 at 08:47 AM
Otto
Prosperous people don't vaccinate. That makes sense.
John
Posted by: John Stone | August 15, 2013 at 07:54 AM
Slate is trying to get a rise out of the vaccine brain injured community. They also published a piece yesterday discussing the fact that rich people are more likely to be vaccine hesitant. Instead of actually interviewing vaccine hesitant families,Slate just makes up stereotypes.
Can't find the link- it was there yesterday.
Posted by: Ottoschnaut | August 15, 2013 at 07:49 AM
The study that finds "a four-fold increase in autism among (the children of) women who had very low levels of a key thyroid hormone, called thyroxine" actually points toward thyroid damage from the fluoride in fluoridated water - another fanatically-promoted anti-public health policy.
Granted, pregnancy can be "a critical period in the brain changes that lead to autism." What about all the mercury a mom-to-be is getting in her flu shots? I don't notice anybody doing any studies on that.
Posted by: Rae N. | August 15, 2013 at 02:22 AM
Plus, I understand once vaccinated, one is contagious with Measles for 2 weeks. Is that accurate? If so, you can add that. It would be nice if articles started having true statements in them. A boy can dream, can't he?
Posted by: Carter's Daddy | August 15, 2013 at 01:25 AM
Yes or how about a young man contracting mumps and becoming sterile (even after 2 recommended doses of MMR when he could have had it younger naturally and not had the complications? What about getting real about the fact that these products are not safety tested very thoroughly and they actually contraindicate vaccines for many in the actual insert and yet make it so hard to get exemptions?
Posted by: Truthseeker2 | August 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM
What is wrong with these idiots at Slate?
How about this, Art Caplan: How about the hypothetical parent of the one year old who hypothetically contracts measles from the hypothetical unvaccinated four year old and hypothetically dies, sues YOU for your policy that prevented the one year old's mother from contracting measles when SHE was a child, when the infection is usually mild, thereby preventing HER from developing LIFE LONG IMMUNITY THAT SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PASS TO HER INFANT DURING THE PERIOD OF THE INFANT'S YOUNG LIFE WHEN THE INFANT IS NATURALLY TOO WEAK TO FIGHT THE DISEASE ON HER OWN which is NATURE'S WAY OF PROTECTING INFANTS FROM MEASLES THAT YOU HAVE PREVENTED HER FROM HAVING BY FORCING THE REPLACEMENT OF NATURAL LIFE LONG IMMUNITY WITH THE UNRELIABLE AND TEMPORARY IMMUNITY FROM VACCINATION THAT WEARS OF, LEAVING HER NEWBORN DEFENSELESS - MOTHER TO CHILD PROTECTION, WHICH AS YOU WELL KNOW BUT ARE KEEPING TO YOURSELF, ONLY OCCURS AFTER NATURAL MEASLES INFECTION BUT NOT AFTER VACCINATION?
How about the four year old's parents SUING YOU for attempting to bar their four year old from contracting measles and developing life long immunity which would prevent their future grandchildren from the same fate as your hypothetical dead one year old?
ENOUGH OF THIS OUTRAGEOUS, IGNORANT, CRAP ALREADY.
Sorry about the caps. I don't like writing with caps, but this calls for them.
Posted by: Linda | August 14, 2013 at 08:44 PM