"Is the vaccine program there to prevent harm or to foist commercial products on a captive market at the public expense?"

I thought you would never ask.

Obviously one important reason for the "flu shot" is to inject 25 mcg of mercury in as many people and fetuses as possible. Getting mercury into a 12 gram fetus is especially important if your object is autism, the ADSs and the other diseases of "vaccination". The low body mass of the fetus multiples the effects of the mercury by thousands of times. When I was a kid they almost NEVER injected a pregnant woman with anything but that was long ago when morality was quite different.

Another reason is to get a NEEDLE in as many arms as possible. We should never forget that in 2009 Baxter Labs put the deadly H5N1 live virus in 100s of thousands of "seasonal flu vaccine" doses and distributed it to 19 countries. This would have been the long awaited "pandemic outbreak" the authorities have been warning us about for over a decade but the Czech Republic tested the "vaccine" and found the live H5N1 virus.

"Flu shots" and all "vaccines" are immunosupressive and hinder your ability to fight off the flu and ALL OTHER DISEASE.

"Flu shots" may be the leading risk factor for Alzheimer's.

"We have found that clinically normal individuals aged 60-65 who receive influenza vaccine three or four times during a five-year period, will five years later have an incidence of Alzheimer's disease 10-fold greater than age-matched individuals who did not receive it." Doctor H. Hugh Fudenburg, MD, Note and CDC cannot figure out where Alzheimer's is coming from. Right! 90% of our seniors are getting the "flu vaccine" toxin.

“There is some evidence that flu shots cause Alzheimer’s disease, most likely as a result of combining mercury with aluminum and formaldehyde. Mercury in vaccines has also been implicated as a cause of autism. Three other serious adverse reactions to the flu vaccine are joint inflammation and arthritis, anaphylactic shock and other life-threatening allergic reactions, and Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralytic autoimmune disease." Doctor Joseph Mercola MD

"Flu shots" help condition you to accept other "vaccines" and other medical life shortening toxins.

What the "flu shot" does not do is prevent or ameliorate the seasonal flu.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot_intro.htm

So we can readily see if your object is depopulation "flu shots" are an excellent idea. And since it is past "1984" I guess we can call all the death and destruction Public Health Policy.

John Stone's pertinent letter has not yet been published on BMJ.com. However, this is the response you get when you post a letter to the BMJ:

"Thank you! Thanks so much for your letter. We intend to publish as rapidly as possible all rapid responses that contribute substantially to the topic under discussion."

Of course, the BMJ is not really as grateful as its effusive thanks would suggest, as the substantiality of any contribution to the topic is wide open to the BMJ's infinitely inscrutable interpretation. A pox on the BMJ.

John O'Neill

Alli is correct:

I seen them pimping the poison in Perth Scotland last year..

Angus

I'm sorry to watch the U.K. follow after the U.S. in "healthcare" trends.

Any store here that has a pharmacy (our small town has 5), you can pretty much expect to received a barrage of posters and intercom announcements telling us you still have time to get your flu shot for about 6 months of the year.

In California now, state senator Ed Hernandez, is sponsoring legislation to let optometrists (he is one) provide the same service, SB492. I guess he figures optometrists know as much about vaccines as any other "healthcare" vendor.

I have to say, in reply to Alli Edwards, I've never seen vaccines offered in a supermarket.

I'd also like to say that unless you're in an "at risk" group (I am - I had pneumonia last year), or are dealing with the public (specifically in a medical context) I'm not convinced that 'flu jab is absolutely necessary.

FluMist was first licensed in the U.S. in 2003

In May 2011, the FDA approved a request by the manufacturer of the vaccine "To revise the package insert to include new information about vaccine virus replication and shedding."
http://tinyurl.com/d6rml33

According to the FDA: "In each age group, among subjects who shed, shedding was most often observed on days 2-3 post vaccination. Among the population for whom FluMist is currently approved for use, i.e., individuals 2-49 years of age (n = 443), vaccine virus titers did not exceed 1.5 log10 TCID50/mL after day 11, though some individuals shed vaccine strain virus as late as day 28 postvaccination."

The FDA document also included the following statements:

"The clinical review of safety data from the studies submitted to this sBLA did not identify any new safety concerns that warrant revisions in labeling."

"The Vaccines and Related Biologics Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) was not convened to discuss this supplement. Advice from VRBPAC was not thought to be critical to the review because the data and proposed changes to labeling do not affect the indication or use of the vaccine or reveal major safety concerns."

All this was certainly not widely advertised.

My daughter caught the flu from a friend who had been recently vaccinated. (We know this friend had flu type B because her mother had her nose swabbed.) My kid was as sick as I've ever seen her for three days. I, on the other hand, felt kind of lousy for one. So now I know that I do get the flu, but for me it's not bad. Perhaps I can thank my disease-ridden childhood.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/general/news/mar0113vestudy.html

"Mar 1, 2013 (CIDRAP News) – Experts are puzzled by a new study in which influenza vaccination seemed to provide little or no protection against flu in the 2010-11 season—and in which the only participants who seemed to benefit from the vaccine were those who hadn't been vaccinated the season before."

I think Jan's comment "It beggars belief" is just about it. Of course, this product has been in use for a while but I wonder if it has ever been used on such a scale (a Christmas present from Dave Cameron to Astra Zenica, formerly Imperial Chemical Industries). One thought that occurs is that although these are attenuated viruses it might influence which virus strains proliferate (ie a self-fulfilling prophecy), so the WHO might actually do better with their predictions in future. It all seems a great big experiment (and a very foolish one).

John:

Several questions come to mind.

(1) You said “Children could therefore become a mass hazard to immunocompromised people, younger siblings etc.” Isn’t this similar to the lethal effects on the immunocompromised populations in the 1993 U.S. cryptosporidium outbreak? This outbreak was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin that resulted in “infecting 400,000 and causing the death of more than 100.” See Kathleen Blair, MS, Epidemiologist, City of Milwaukee Health Department at http://www.waterandhealth.org/newsletter/old/03-01-1995.html . See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptosporidiosis .

(2) Kathleen Blair reported that “At this point there is no single, clear source of contamination of the Milwaukee watershed, and we may never know exactly what happened in April 1993. Possible sources include cattle along the two rivers that flow into the Milwaukee harbor above the southern treatment plant, local slaughterhouses and human sewage. Rivers swelled by significant rain and snow runoff may have transported oocysts great distances into the lake and from there to the intake of the southern plant.”

But in the UK doesn’t everyone know the “source of contamination” for illness from the nasal influenza vaccine ‘Fluenz’ is the mass administration of attenuated live flu virus?

(3) Would the UK Department of Health also add cryptosporidium contamination to the drinking water supply to boost the cryptosporidium immunity of UK citizens?

Here in the UK, flu jabs have been moved out of GP surgeries and into big shopping malls at Boot the Chemists, and in Sainsbury's supermarkets. Not only are the public charged a fee but what chance is there avoiding getting ill, if the recently vaccinated or nasal sprayed are coughing, sneezing and spluttering live virus all over our groceries and automatic till-points. Is this a deliberate
attempt to kill off the weak?

"It is deeply disturbing that this senseless project ploughs forward regardless. While government seems to have seized the agenda over influenza vaccination by unwarranted claims of (influenza) mortality [1,2] there are definable risks to the use of nasal influenza vaccine. Manufacturer's product information states among other things"

John .. we here across the pond .. in the wake of recent terrorist bombing attack at the Boston Marathon .. are constantly being told if we "see something .. say something". Unfortunately, this strategy is useless if the homeland security/intelligence agencies don't "DO SOMETHING" AFTER THEY ARE TOLD .. which appears to have happened following prior Russian warning of our home grown terrorist.

Apparently, the manufacturer you write of in the UK has done his public duty .. he "saw something" .. then "said something" .. in his warning insert. Unfortunately, UK public health officials have decided to DO NOTHING regarding his warnings.

As I said .. of what use is the "see something .. say something" stragtegy if the authorities .. be they intelligence agenices or public health officials .. decide to "do nothing"?