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See ya neverBy Cathy Jameson 

When you have a chronically-ill child such as I have, and you know that some of the problems started from measures that could have been prevented, you read everything that crosses your path.  So, it’s no surprise that when I saw the title of this article last week it piqued my interest.  I was actually giddy thinking that CNN might shed a positive light on why parents should consider firing someone like their pediatrician.  Since so many pediatricians seemed to have turned a blind eye to vaccine injury, and parents report feeling bullied by these doctors to vaccinate their child, I was lured to read more from this mainstream news source.

Pediatricians, and other medical specialists, seem to be revered.  They walk as if on hallowed ground.  Why, their work includes helping the most vulnerable and precious of human beings—babies!  But, as with any sort of doctor, pediatricians are also human.  And, we all know that humans aren’t perfect.  They make mistakes.  And sometimes, the mistakes they make are grave. 

For many of us growing up, no matter what upbringing we had, it was second nature to show respect toward doctors.  Lab coat or not, we were taught (or maybe just assumed) that ‘doctor knew best’ no matter what.  We were not to question them.  We were never to doubt them either.  We were to trust and trust infinitely.  Well, I don’t mind sharing that some of Ronan’s doctors were more human than they were medically savvy.  Those doctors, the ones who contributed to Ronan’s decline, were fired from treating Ronan because of their unprofessionalism, their inadequate knowledge and how utterly disrespectful they were to my son.  Their years of schooling, their thick medical textbooks, their professional title and recognizable initials that followed their name meant absolutely nothing if they didn’t see that, or care that, Ronan is first a little boy, and second, has some serious and complicated medical needs.  Making the decision to walk away from one of Ronan’s doctors wasn’t a quick decision.  It was made with careful thought and always after weighing several factors. 

To put the article from CNN (which was originally posted in Parenting.com) in an autism parent’s perspective, let’s go back and look at a situation that many of us have unfortunately encountered and agree that firing a pediatrician absolutely makes sense: 

A young couple begins to question their pediatrician’s ____ (knowledge, motivation, ethics, bottom line) after their baby’s recent ___ (vaccination; series of vaccinations; adverse reaction(s) to a vaccinations). 

The timing of the questioning comes soon after the young couple watches their ___ (newborn; 2-, 4-, 6-, 9-, 12-, 15-, 18-, 24-) month old begins to deteriorate.

*Note - notice how baby’s age correlate to the recommended vaccine schedule as well as the “well”-baby visits when vaccines are generally given. 

*Note also - deteriorate could mean one, or several, of the parents’ following observations and concerns:

He is no longer as ‘engaged’ anymore.

She is acting ‘a little slower’.

My baby looks ‘sort of out of it’.

He used to speak…she used to crawl…he used to look right at me…she was such a social butterfly…but now there is nothing…no words…unable to walk…with a blank stare…as if the curtains were pulled and they are now ‘in their own world’.

All of the above statements from this situation conclude with Mom or Dad saying, “Something isn’t right.  Doc, can you help me?  Could it…could it have been the vaccines?” 

Reason #1 – It Can’t Be

If the doc’s response is, “The Vaccines?  Pshaw!  You ___ (silly, stupid, uneducated, dumber than dumb) parents.  Vaccines are ___ (safe, effective, for the greater good), dontcha know.  Everyone should get them.” 

*Note- the doctor’s response might also include non-verbal body language:  a raised eyebrow accompanied by a tsk, tsk look.  The doctor may not resist adding a snarky, “Have you been reading bunk on the internet again?” sort of remark while sneering.

What could Mom and Dad do?

Take the baby, and run.

Reason #2 – Actions Speak Louder Than Words

Same scenario—doctor is presented with an “if this, then that” synopsis (i.e., baby was fine, baby got vaccines, baby not so good after vaccines, and baby is getting worse), BUT the doctor says nothing about the vaccines and changes the subject, “___ (Boys are slower to develop than girls; That high fever is normal; Just give some Tylenol—she’ll be fine).”

Saying something about vaccines is at least a response (even if it is the ‘Pshaw’ response above).  But, to say nothing of them is worse.  Not acknowledging that Mom or Dad made a logical conclusion to what they witnessed (that if vaccines, then adverse affect) is a slap in the face.  Why?  Because Mom and Dad are with the baby 24/7.  Their input is valuable.  It is as valuable (if not more) than the doctor’s who is relying on Mom or Dad’s reports because again, Mom and Dad are with the child 24/7.  Yes, the doctor’s expertise is important, but looking at everything else but what can actually be documented (i.e., vaccines) is offensive.

What can Mom and Dad do?

Take the baby, and run. 

Reason #3 - It’s Not Me (Doctor), It’s YOU (Mother)

Instead of slowing the vaccine schedule down despite several “if this (vaccine at 12-month appointment caused high-pitched screaming, high fever and an ER run), then that (sunken eyes, severe gut problems, loss of beginning language)” some doctors continue choose to blaze full speed ahead with the vaccine schedule.  They do this while trying to assure a now very worried Mom and Dad who, yes, are reading as much as they can on the internet and elsewhere since their doctor is not providing them with solid answers.  Parents are at an emotional breaking point because that good ol’ ‘trust the doctor’, ‘he knows best’ and ‘don’t buck authority’ upbringing is causing major turmoil for the parent—they want to trust their baby with this highly educated person, but his newly added ‘let’s wait and see’ reply and stall tactic is yet another delay that Mom and Dad will not stand for.  That reply gives false hope for a window of time that soon won’t exist.  What will happen if they wait any longer and agree to the doctor’s suggestion of adding more toxic soup to the mix?  Well, that window is going to slam shut. 

What is the non-medically trained yet highly-observant parent to do?  Question authority?  Sure!   Remember, parents are told all.the.time., “You know your child best!”, and “Listen to your baby; he’ll tell you what he needs.”  Yet parents are shut down repeatedly.  They are asked, “Mom, tell me what you saw.”  “Dad, how high was that fever again?”  “Mom, describe that screaming and his noxious bowel movements one more time.” But, when it comes to notation and transcribing actual facts (and not accusations) in the medical records, parents’ words are used against them.  Anecdotal reports are transcribed with harsh, finger-pointing language, “MOTHER states…”, MOTHER insists…”, “MOTHER wants…”, “MOTHER refuses…”

What can MOTHER and FATHER do?

Take the baby, and RUN.

Reason #4 – One Size Does NOT Fit All

Now, for the introduction for the next reason why someone may want to fire their pediatrician, I’m going to be a little bit nosy.  I have to ask though.  Did your pediatrician ask you for a family medical history prior to talking to you about vaccinating your baby?  Full medical history means just that—a thorough, share everything, I mean e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g, about your family’s past including BOTH sides of the family, and personal things not normally discussed out loud at the dinner table.  I only ask because that full, bare-it-all medical history can play a role in how a child responds to certain “preventative” measures pediatricians might offer. 

Think back through your family line.  Recall every relative and also their health.  What you know about these people and their health?  Did you and your doctor discuss your chronic fatigue syndrome?  Your husband’s borderline ADD?  How about Aunt Mary’s Lupus?  Did you tell them that Uncle John has diabetes?   Did you talk about your cousin’s seizure disorder?  Or your brother-in-law’s heart condition?  Did you know it would be important to share all of that? 

Then, when as much as could be revealed was shared, was all of that pertinent medical information entered in your child’s record?  Once entered, did the doctor research your family’s health history and how it relates to vaccinations?  Did they counsel you on which vaccines are contradictory or unnecessary according to medical literature?  Did you then go home and review his findings on your own?  Did you research further why that quirky cousin is so quirky?  Did you remember that he started to change after his kindergarten booster shots?  Did you ask your Mom for clarification on how you reacted to your childhood vaccines before she slipped back into an Alzheimer’s moment?  Did you take notes about all that you learned and prepare questions for the pediatrician?  Did you?

I know, I know.  It’s a lot to think about.  But, if you didn’t know that you had to think about all of that, how else could you get a complete picture of your child’s health history and how it might respond to medicine?   Granted, it is a lot of information to gather and consider, but once you get that arsenal of information, it’s time to go back to the doctor to continue the discussion. 

When you return to talk to the doctor, did you and he discuss each and every vaccine and each and every ingredient of each and every vaccine?  Have you had a chance to read the package insert (in layman’s terms, the package insert is the vaccine “label”).  Were you told who makes the vaccine and if it’s been on the market long enough to have thorough long-term studies?   Did you read the full list of ingredients?  Did you understand what reported adverse reactions to each and every vaccine means?  Did you note the effects of the vaccine on certain populations within their listed control groups and that that information includes what was not studied (i.e., like that the flu shot, which is offered to many pregnant women even though it has had only limited studies on pregnant women and their unborn babies)?   A great amount of useful information, which should be shared completely, can allow parents to be fully informed but only if they know to look for it, to ask about it and to be given time to comprehend it. 

I hope you got a chance to review all of that and were then given the chance to ask questions for anything that puzzled you.  So many parents report today that they wished they knew now what they should have known then.  These days it’s easy to look things up (thank you, Internet), but for many of us, back in the day, we relied on the doctor’s good word (or no word if they kept mum) about vaccines and adverse vaccine reactions. 

This scenario is quite lengthy, but before concluding Reason # 4, here are just a few other things to consider and some examples of what I would hope every parent to know prior to certain vaccinations:

Did the doctor tell you that the Hep B shot is intended to prevent a sexually transmitted disease (that many babies will never encounter) and that the vaccines’ efficacy could fade by the time baby grows up to be sexually active?

Did the doctor tell you that a live-virus vaccine can shed (and affect other people, and that immune-compromised people who do get infected someone else’s vaccine could get very, very sick)?

Did the doctor tell you that the varicella (chicken pox) shot, even though it was intended to reduce/prevent chicken pox, has actually done the opposite? 

Did the doctor tell you that the vaccine schedule is recommended and not required as perceived?  (*Note – only some states actually require vaccines, so do check out NVIC.org for state-by-state information.)

Did the doctor tell you that that old argument “but he needs his shots for school” is not true (and that vaccine exemptions are available in many areas)?  Kids can and do go to school without getting vaccines

Did he tell you about spacing vaccines (which means not getting 9 shots (NINE!) in one day)?

(And by nine, I mean making sure the multi-vial vaccines are given in individual doses (if possible) and over time, and never all at once.  For example:  MMR, DTaP, Hep B, Prevnar and Polio = 9 shots in one day (even though only five jabs).  Gah, five.

Did he? DID HE??

Now, once those types of questions are answered, and after a parent has done their own thorough research based on their family’s history and conditions, their vaccine pro and con list should be well supported with detailed factors for their decision.  If it hasn’t been done yet, the next step is to take that list to the “well”-baby exam and discuss it until all questions are exhausted. 

Are you ready to discuss all of this with your pediatrician?  More importantly, is the doctor willing to listen to your questions, concerns and input, and then slow down, or completely stop, that vaccine schedule?  If yes, you found a great doc who just may go to bat for you.  If not, what’s a parent to do? 

Take your baby, and run. 

Reason #5 - Sign on the Dotted Line

We are given warranties on high-dollar products many times throughout our lives—for our homes, on appliances we buy, for cars we drive and for professional services rendered.  A growing practice that took me completely by surprise was when our pediatrician’s office asked us to sign a document about vaccinating.  Well, in this case, about not vaccinating. 

The form made clear that the parent knew that the following recommended___ (too many, too soon) vaccines are being offered to their ___ (does-not-tolerate vaccines well; has autoimmune disease on both sides of their family) child.  The form states that the parent is refusing these vaccines which go against the doctor’s suggestion.  Fine.  But, wait.  At this point, the doctor should already know the child’s complete medical history, right?  And they should be fully aware that, for this child, vaccines are not fine.  In fact, some vaccines and their ingredients may add more burden to their body than will help it!  Remember, too, that the operative word in this scenario is that, for the majority, vaccines are recommended.  With that recommendation comes an option:  to say, “Yes, thank you”, or to say, “No, thank you.” 

Common sense would show that that would be an incorrect form to offer a parent because that child’s pediatrician should well understand that with the family’s history (of autoimmune diseases, mitochondrial dysfunction, chronic illnesses as well as the severe allergies and increasing attention problems) and that vaccines should not be considered. 

So, why document a refusal when such a refusal isn’t warranted? 

If you are asked to sign the form, maybe you could offer them this one instead.  I don’t wish a standoff to occur, but I wonder if a, “I’ll sign yours if you sign mine” reply might get the over-vaccinating pediatricians to see the logic in your request and back down from their illogical demands. 

If doc says they’d be happy to sign it and that they will be responsible for any and every adverse reaction, then you have yourself an honest man.  If not, what’s a parent to do? 

Take that baby, and run.

So, that’s a few reasons to give you an idea of why parents in the autism community might have wanted to kick their pediatrician’s practice to the curb.  I will note that, for some parents, it isn’t just their child’s pediatrician who might need to be replaced.  The neurologists who continuously pressures psychotic meds to ‘calm this kid down’, or the GI doctor who insists that leaky gut, ‘toddler’ diarrhea and painful stools from constipation are perfectly normal, might also be put on the chopping block if their care, their attitude or their unsafe practices deter parents from finding appropriate health for their kids.  

If someone is causing pain, is inflicting sickness or whose actions bring about suffering to a child, wouldn’t it be in the child’s best interest to remove that someone?   Your child and his life are being placed in the hands of another person—if you have unsettled thoughts or are constantly questioning their motives, it might be time to shop around for someone else who you can trust.  Once a parent remembers that they are ultimately responsible for their child and his health, then I think more people will have the courage to say, “Hey, Doc. You’re fired!”

Cathy Jameson is a Contributing Editor for Age of Autism.

 

Comments

Lou

"Sometimes babies just cry"

And we PAY for this?

A babies cry response is perhaps his most powerful method to get the attention he REQUIRES. Any baby who in ages long past misused this powerful response had genes that were eliminated from the gene pool.

How many tens of millions of babies have cried BILLIONS of crys that pleaded with their mother "Please DON'T VACCINATE me again; please remove this vaccination pain NOW"? How many tens of millions of mothers have had their totally uninformed, propagandized "pediatrician" tell them their baby does not know pain?

Antibiotics play a LARGE role in autism IMO; they destroy the good GI flora that is REQUIRED for a healthy GI tract and proper digestion et al. Antibiotics are NEVER called for for an earache likely brought on by a "vaccine".

When I was a kid my grandmother put 50% H2O2 drops in my ears that ached. That is what I do with myself and my grand kids. I have noticed my son who almost NEVER "vaccinates" has kids that do not get many earaches.

Pediatricians, "vaccinations", antibiotics for earaches and other minor problems, all things we do not need in our lives IMO. ALL have failed us and have PROVEN they will continue to fail us.

Linda

Dear Abe C.,

I hope it isn't too late for me to post this so you will see it. I was heartened to see a medical student reading AOA. I hope you continue to learn from the experiences and valuable insights of the editors and commenters here. It will make you a better doctor if you do.
I want to thank you, too, for your input, that I learned from and found interesting. Sincerely, an honest, respectful discussion is one crucial aspect of the doctor patient relationship that is missing today. It is one reason why the medical profession is losing its credibility.

One thing that you said though, the thing about if patients feel the need to have lawyers present.... Listen, I know you are struggling with all the problems you are about to face as you go out into practice, and rightly so, but that take it or leave it attitude is only going to make things worse. As others have reminded you, and you may not fully realize, allopathic medicine has developed an almost complete monopoly on health care and certainly on what is legally defined as the practice of medicine - people really have no choice but to use medical doctors. So, your advice to avoid doctors altogether isn't realistic and it doesn't help the problem. Our system of government is set up so that civil laws are enforced after they are broken. It is the patient's burden to enforce proper medical care through legal action. Patients didn't create this system. We are all stuck with it. That's something we really need to look at, because you are right, it isn't the best system, but presently, it's what we've got.

About patient reporting, always listen carefully, and never discount a patient's account as being anecdotal, especially that of a parent explaining what happened to their child. Parents, I would say, especially mothers, have a psychic connection to their children. They know when something is wrong, they know when there is a change, and they should be listened to carefully. Doctors would be more successful in diagnosis and treatment of children if they would listen and if they would, as in the old days of medicine, incorporate clinical experience into everyday practice instead of relying only on medical journals. The conclusions found in medical journals are often several decades behind what can be deducted from years of clinical experience.

A few things come to mind that I want to share with you. Years back I learned some valuable lessons that have helped me tremendously. In my travels, I haven't met many doctors that seem to know these things that are crucial to developing and maintaining a therapeutic relationship.

1) Develop trust. You can't help anyone unless they trust you, and you must develop (earn) a patient's trust first. In my experience, doctors expect patients to trust them just because of their initials. It doesn't work that way.

2) Be nonjudgmental. You can't help anyone that you are judging. Not as easy to put into practice as it seems.

3) Never compromise on your principles. This will be your biggest hurdle. In order to be a great physician, even a good one, you will need to set high standards for yourself and the team you work with, and then you will have to live by those standards without compromising. Very difficult given the corrupt relationships, conflicts of interest, power struggles, lack of scientific and academic integrity, economic considerations competing with patient needs, etc.

Please make sure that you thoroughly research what happens to scientists who refuse to compromise on their principles, who refuse to be bought off, and who unyieldingly put patients first. Please thoroughly investigate what happened to Andrew Wakefield, the most stellar example of honesty and integrity in medicine that I can think of. I know there are many scientists, not only in medicine, who have had careers derailed and have been threatened because they were doing honest, needed research. In order to be a great doctor, you have to understand that you will have to venture outside of the box that has been assigned to you. If you are practicing with integrity, you will have political problems throughout your career, or until medicine is hopefully cleaned up.

Oh, and if I may recommend that you be sure to see the excellent documentary, "The Greater Good".

You have your work cut out for you. I sincerely wish you all the best and hope that you and the new generation of medical doctors will take on the fight to elevate the practice of medicine to where it should be.

Lou

"That high fever is normal; Just give some Tylenol—she’ll be fine."

If a sophomoric "doctor" gives you this response pack up your babies turn on your heel and LEAVE; find some good books on healing kids and NEVER return.

Children, Vaccination, Tylenol, Glutathione, Mercury, Asthma and SIDS

“Tylenol promotes the toxicity of mercury. It is the worst thing to do. Tylenol depletes glutathione which protects the nervous cells from mercury damage.” Doctor David Ayoub MD

"Every study shows the association between acetaminophen and asthma, It seems to me it's time to tell people about this." Asthma, which is one of the most common chronic diseases in the United States, is a relatively new epidemic."

Children's Tylenol and related painkillers may be a cause of asthma surge, Note this "relatively new epidemic" of asthma is contemporaneous with the "relatively new epidemic" of autism, which is itself contemporaneous with the "relatively new epidemic" of "vaccination"

Empirical Data Confirm Autism Symptoms Related to Aluminum and Acetaminophen Exposure

If you take the time to investigate these two sources and follow up links what you may find is this.

Acetaminophen (Tylenol) depletes glutathione, this explains why acetaminophen can cause liver toxicity, the liver is the prime consumer of glutathione

Glutathione is your bodies PRIME antioxidant

Glutathione is found in HIGH concentration (normally) in your LUNGS

Glutathione is REQUIRED to deal with mercury in your body

Mercury RAPIDLY depletes glutathione

When glutathione is depleted in the lungs it may bring on an asthma attack

When glutathione is depleted in the brain breathing control centers (especially in a vaccinated child) it may bring on SIDS. You have to study Doctor Moulden a little to know this.

When glutathione is depleted ANYWHERE in ANYONES body BAD things can happen.

Please no acetaminophen (Tylenol) anytime for anything

Here is a dance of many partners, of disease and death, going on now in the USA. YOU can prohibit this disease and death in your family. All it takes is a little reading, viewing and action.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_mercury.htm

Donna L.

Abe C. said:
"Someone suggested having a lawyer present at every doctor encounter. Ultimately, I guess it comes down to this. If you are so unhappy with the medical world that you wish to damage the entire establishment then perhaps it is best if you stay as far away from it as you can."

Abe, the purpose of having a lawyer present at every doctor encounter would be to ensure that my child's doctor does not commit malpractice, not, as you say, to 'damage the entire establishment.' In fact, the entire establishment is already doing a fine job damaging itself. You/they do not need any help from me. If I brought my child into a pediatrician's office for an ear infection and the physician prescribed penicillin and I promptly reported that my child had had an allergic reaction to penicillin in the past, the doctor would not prescribe penicillin. S/he would in fact record this fact in my child's medical record for future reference and avoid the use of penicillin for my child in all future visits.

But if I reported to my child's doctor that he had suffered a severe reaction to a vaccine in the past, complete with seizures and profound developmental regression, this fact would most likely not make it into my child's medical record; in fact, the doctor would most likely disregard this information and continue to attempt to coerce me into having my child further vaccinated. I don't see how you could call this anything other than malpractice. Yet this is what is happening around the country on a daily basis, and this is what Cathy is so accurately describing in this post.

We are not the problem. Lawyers are not the problem. The problem is the problem, and I'm sorry to say that until your entire profession goes back to practicing medicine ethically, we are not going to back down. Get used to it.

Llul Ann

I had a wonderful pediatrician who was not the "norm". Follow your gut and change doctors if you have concerns. I have an autistic son but I do not find drama and controversy at every turn like some paranoid parents. I find my time is better served at tending to my son.

Linda

In the news today:

Nearly half of U.S. children late receiving vaccines

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50541537/ns/health-childrens_health

excerpt:
"Undervaccinated kids also tended to have fewer doctors' appointments and emergency room visits than those who got their shots on time, according to findings published in the journal JAMA Pediatrics."

The slant of this Reuters piece is about how horrible it is that kids are undervaccinated. Somewhere around the middle of the article the above admission appears. But they immediately try to explain it away with "That could be because their parents more often turn to alternative or complementary medicine when it's an option, Omer said.
Recent studies have shown many parents asking to delay or skip certain vaccines, often citing safety concerns such as a link between vaccines and autism - a theory which scientists now agree holds no water."

Then, in the next line, another admission followed by a few more layers of skewed logic:

"We don't really know if these 'alternative schedules' as they're called are as safe, less safe or more safe than the current schedule, Glanz told Reuters Health, adding that parents who are considering an alternative vaccination schedule should talk with their child's doctor first - and be especially careful about what they read online.

"We don't have any evidence that there are any safety concerns with the current recommended schedule, and right now the best way to protect your child from infection is to get your child vaccinated on time," he said.

No evidence? How about the part about fewer doctor and emergency room visits, published, no less, in JAMA Pediatrics? Oh, wait a minute. That's right. Forget what I just wrote. I read that online.

Farmer Geddon

Abe C ....I couldnt agree more with your suggestion below & I am closely following your advice (100% boycott).

"If you are so unhappy with the medical world that you wish to damage the entire establishment then perhaps it is best if you stay as far away from it as you can. "

However vaccines are increasingly being mandated against people , denied school education if attempting to refuse . Coercion and tactics used at every turn to get the poison out there .In Maryland they actually marched Parents at gunpoint to get the Varicella vaccine and threatened jail time to refusers (I bet you dispute this !).

My suggestion to you , is to make sure you take all your vaccines , and for all your family . Keep them fully up to date and if you are unsure if you have missed one , then take it again . Additionally why dont you volunteer yourself for the experimental ones as well (eg the meningitis vaccine in Chad , or the Gardasil in India , or the Polio in India - all of which has left multiple of thousands of people injured\paralysed for life , and many fatalities too .) We have no idea about what we are talking about on here , its all in our imagination , vaccines are perfectly safe - and I wish you well - good luck with that .

Abe C.

As a 3rd year medical student currently in a pediatric rotation, I have to say I agree with some of the objections raised in this article. I have seen that a large part of being a pediatrician is engaging and treating the family as a unit, not just the child. Parents really do know best, and it would be prudent to "fire" a pediatrician who did not appreciate the ultimate importance of the parent-doctor relationship.

I am also concerned at some of the points raised which seem more pejorative than constructive...

Reason 1 and 2: These are of course important and valid arguments. If your pediatrician is not listening to your concerns and treating you without professionalism, she/he should be fired. That being said, a good pediatrician who acknowledges your concerns but disagrees with them should not be thought of as a "quack". A good pediatrician will respect the ultimate autonomy you have as a caregiver to your child, but she/he will also discuss important decisions at length.

Reason 3: There is no doubt in my mind that a parent knows her/his child better than anyone, including a pediatrician. Pediatricians are trained in the functioning of the human body and its interactions with an environment, specifically a child and her environment. You should never settle for anything less than a pediatrician who looks at you as a team-member in the medical arena. However, (please forgive the analogy, it was not meant to make light of a situation) I concede that my mechanic knows more about the inner-workings of my car even though I drive it every day. Just as a pediatrician should view you as an equal in your knowledge of your child, so you might want to view her.

Reason 4: Histories are so very important in health care, the more detailed the better. My advice, do your homework as this article suggests. I have never seen a single patient, not one, who could provide anywhere close to the amount of detail suggested by this article. Furthermore, the inexact science of medicine does not allow absolute extrapolations from such knowledge. It just doesn't.

Reason 5: I don't agree with the aggressive forms described in this article from either side, doctor or parent. A parent should not have to take full responsibility for anything that they don't know everything about. A doctor should not have to take responsibility for all possible outcomes from any given action. Both are impractical and would cripple the parent or doctor. However, this is an imperfect world. We don't know as much as we should about vaccines (or medicine in general). Moreover, someone does have to take responsibility for a child's health, and society as deemed that party to be the parents. Both entities have to work together to fill in the gaps science has yet to provide. A pediatrician should be willing to do that. No litigation-reeked paperwork necessary.

I was disturbed to read a few comments. Someone suggested having a lawyer present at every doctor encounter. Ultimately, I guess it comes down to this. If you are so unhappy with the medical world that you wish to damage the entire establishment then perhaps it is best if you stay as far away from it as you can. If not that, be constructive and work with the people willing to meet in the middle. That is always where the answer is, in the middle.

Please keep a healthy sense of skepticism about vaccines. It will ultimately make the world a better place.

Sylvia

I appreciate and agree so much with this article!

I can remember SO clearly the day in January 1999; my 10 month old so had been so ill and miserable. He had had the 3rd in the Hepatitis B series of shots the month before. He screamed that high-pitched scream with arched back, projectile vomited, and oh I will never, EVER forget the explosive yellow diarrhea that shot up out of his diaper and to the back of his NECK. I took him to the pediatrician, where he was diagnosed with an ear infection (he had many of those the first year of life) and we walked off with yet another script for antibiotics. But after the 10 days, he was still screaming in PAIN. So off I go again, this time to the on-call pediatrician, a man I had never met. He was completely unsympathetic to my son's plight, took a look into both ears, and declared him FINE. No ear infection. CLEAN bill of health. By just looking at his EARS??? He has been screaming for two weeks! He can't eat! He can't sleep! And you say he is FINE? And this is what he told me in a cross between irritated and indiferent tone:

"Sometimes babies just cry".

The incompetence and neglect of duty is STAGGERING. I had no idea what was happening with my beautiful little boy, and the pediatrician had no intention of finding out. It was there the terrible realization covered my like a tidlewave - they don't REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. If you aren't there for a vaccination or an ear infection, you are S.O.L. They a production line for the line of goods they hawk, they aren't set up for anything else.

Laura

Loved this. Sure wish I would have done things differently.

Linda DelConte

Great article. We not only have to fight the illness we have to also fight the establishment. It's unbelievable that they have left us on our own when we need them the most. Unfortunately, they are also just following orders that the pharmaceutical companies have dictated. The docs aren't thinking anymore. They were also brainwashed. I believe that it is too difficult for them to accept they have caused harm. After all, they payed a lot of money for their incomplete education to accept that they have become robots and puppets of a broken health care system. But every now and then you come across a gem of a Doctor.....Thank God for them.

Kristina

I think it's sad that they couldn't even find a child without eczema for the article's photo.

cmo

Take the baby, and RUN. This is always good advice, certainly before "baby's first vaccine" the hep b

The Hepatitis B vaccine one dose at birth, one, four & six months of age. The addition of the Hep B vaccine provided American infants with 100 micrograms of mercury from 1991 to 2002.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/10/hepatitis-b-vaccine-an-unmitigated-disaster-.html

.....So in the CDC and ACIP's own words, almost every newborn U.S. baby is now greeted on its entry into the world by a vaccine injection against a sexually transmitted disease for which the baby is not at risk -- because they couldn't get the junkies, prostitutes, homosexuals and promiscuous heterosexuals to take the vaccine.

...That is the essence of the Hepatitis B universal vaccination program.

47 days of life with the hep b vaccine...

http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/02/managing-editors-note-below-is-the-story-of-iam-gromowski-a-boy-who-lived-47-days-after-his-hepatitis-b-vaccination-thank.html

Benedetta

Cathy:
This is the best post you have ever had.
Not only your best -- but one of the best articles on "Age of Autsim" and that is saying alot because there have been some really good articles!

I know you write for "Age of Autism"
but this article needs to be passed around --
to other autism sites like the "Vaccine Information Center".

Donna L.

If I had it all to do over again (oh how I wish), I'd have had a lawyer present at my kids' births and a lawyer with me for each and every one of their doctor's appointments. Even 400 bucks an hour would have seemed like peanuts compared to the hundreds of thousands of dollars we've spent on biomed and therapies.
There is nothing doctors fear more than lawyers. We need to start using them. Enough is enough.

Allie90

Year after year, reading these same posts of parents. Finding my heartache within the lines.
So many of the same symptoms, same thoughts, actions, conversations with the Ped's DR's.
Being met at the DR's office with my son's Chart," oh DR cannot see your child because your refusal to vaccinate. Desperate to get someone to treat his symptoms, agreed to a vaccine only to be sick on the drive home, and then the words slowly disappeared.... And you know that you knew, and its too late.

" I went to FIFTY DR's!! And gave up. I finally stopped looking for a
DR and if something came up, took our child to our family DR.

Its has been way too many years for this to be still going on! Do we take to the streets with our kids all on the same day all across the country and let everyone in the public know what the hell has happened to our Children?

Tim Kasemodel

Cathy,

For me, this is one of your best timed posts yet. I have a niece that did convince a Ped to follow her own slowed down schedule for her first daughter. She has a cousin who is a Chiropractor who has many of his own "undervaccinated" children. Her second daughter was born a few months ago and I want to send this to her to remind her why choosing her own very limited and delayed schedule was the right thing to do.

Your words will give my niece and many other new parents the courage to stand up to their Peds and remind them they can say "I know whats best for my child" and will take their kids elsewhere if need be.

This is how change will happen - not in the Halls of Congress, but the halls of homes, schools and churches where we share our stories with those parents who want to listen.

Thanks so much for having our back........

Carter's Daddy

We quit our old family doctor, who was pretty ignorant and closed minded, and quickly found one that was more agreeable. He's not aggressive at all and while he doen't agree with us about the causes of autism or the dangers of vaccines, he does what we want without any questioning, and he doesn't try pushing any shots. It's funny that the other doctor in his office likes to prescribe antibiotics for everything while ours hasn't brought it up to my knowledge.

Some children react to vax

My baby had extreme food allergies and we had to put her on Neocate to even able to feed her. At 5 months she could eat nothing but Neocate, was seeing a gi specialist, and could not sleep through the night because of GERD and explosive digestive issues. So I didn't want to vax her; her system couldn't handle food, how would it handle all those chemicals? After much arguing, my husband and I agreed to try 1 vax on our baby. She stopped babbling and cooing, stopped making eye contact, and stopped using the left side of her body - she dragged her left leg when she crawled and sat with her left hand by her side in the tub where she used to splash with two hands. It all happened the day of her one vaccine trial, a well baby visit. The doctor acknowledged the reaction but said she had to be completely vaxed to be a part of their practice. We found a new practice.

Twyla

Interesting that the #3 reason for dismissing a pediatrician listed in the linked article is "Your doctor is a pushover" meaning that he is not able to convince you to give all of the vaccines:

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3. Your doctor is a pushover. The whole reason you go to a doctor is "to have access to science and data that you wouldn't have without going to medical school and through residency," says Dr. Swanson.

So if you head to your doctor's office dead-set against a vaccine, it's his responsibility to fill you in on why that may not be the best choice for your child. A doctor who just caves to your desires does not have your child's best interest in mind.

"Your doctor should have opinions," says Dr. Swanson, "he just shouldn't be paternalistic about them. He should be able to come together with a parent and elegantly come up with a plan that makes the most sense for your child."

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Ay, mainstream media, so party-line, so brainwashed.

What science and data is presented in med school or during residence regarding the impact of giving multiple vaccines at once, two dozen during the first two years of life? What do they learn about who may be susceptible to vaccine injury, and how to identify and treat vaccine injuries? Where is the class on personalized medicine in regard to vaccines? On the relationship between the nervous, digestive, and immune systems?

Does "elegantly come up with a plan that makes the most sense for your child" mean that the pediatrician would respond to concerns in a truly knowledgeable way and apply the principles of personalized medicine to your child? Or does this mean s/he just figures out a way to get you to follow the schedule?

Hera

Good article. Trust of someone in authority requires that they care and show that they are trustworthy.I know some people who choose GPs rather than pediatricians for their kids;general medical doctors are often more used to actually listening to their patients, and accepting that their patients may want input into choices for themselves.
If an adult has a vaccine reaction, a general medical doctor can't get away with just dismissing it .
Funny that it is easier to get away with giving shoddy care to children than to adults.

Diane W Farr

I told our pediatrician that my son quit talking and stopped reaching milestones. His response was,"are you and your husband having problems in your marriage?" A year later when I we got the diagnosis of autism I went back to him and I was very angry. His response was, "it is not my job to diagnose autism". It wasn't his job either to refer me to a developmental pediatrician. It took me six years to find a pediatrician that would allow my children in their practice because I won't vaccinate.

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