Do Nursing Home Diseases and Death Increase after Influenza Vaccination?
By Anonymous
Last week I was at a nursing home that offers long- and short-term care. On Friday publicly posted signs indicated that residents received influenza vaccinations that day. By law patients' personal health information is protected by HIPPA, so of course any information that would identify them is omitted here. I do not know which residents did or did not receive flu shots, or whether they received vaccines from multi-dose bottles containing the mercury-based preservative thimerosal.
In a normal month, resident/patient deaths are few and spread out. However since Friday, three long-term residents passed away in three days, and a fourth died two days later.
This could all be coincidence; in fact, one patient’s age was quite advanced. However one staff person commented that the person’s end was not expected so quickly. Another staff person, a nurse, commented about the deaths, “It’s that time of year.”
My question: Have any studies been done to determine whether nursing home deaths increase disproportionately shortly after immunizations?
Such an increase in deaths following influenza shots delivered en masse within a short time period would be calculable. Exacerbation of current medical symptoms or emergence of new disorders would be more difficult to establish.
This week I emailed the above question to a doctor, who responded thus:
“This cluster would probably make the news if there had been an exposure to something the EPA wants to regulate.
"Such clusters of course do not prove anything, but certainly should arouse questions. Why this time of year? It's not freezing cold, and it is not flu season.
“If you knew the expected mortality rate on a day in October, you could calculate the probability of three seemingly unrelated deaths occurring on three successive days by chance alone. Then one would need to test the hypothesis that death clusters were more likely after than before flu shots in other data sets.”
Though death is inevitable for us all, I would hate to think that clusters such as this in aging populations are common or viewed with the same tolerance as pneumonia – once darkly referred to in the medical community as “the friend of the elderly.”
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Posted by: Morag | May 18, 2017 at 04:23 AM
I know 2 people that worked in aged care. One called the period of administration of flu shots "going to meet Jesus week" based on the cluster of deaths to follow. The second approached her superior about just this same phenomenon and was told to pull her head in and shut up. Anything other than the sacred cow of vaccination would be thoroughly investigated
Posted by: Trent | May 17, 2017 at 04:47 AM
"And then of course, as you well know, we may suspect that there are other reasons that could be political or genocidal because the product is administered to large amounts of older people and as you well know in nursing homes where they receive flu vaccines there are many, many cases of flu shortly after the vaccination effort which indicates a total association and from a very crude point of view the perpetuation of life in older people particularly in nursing homes is not desirable to those that handle the funds. So of course we cannot prove this but it certainly presents a seductive hypothesis."---- Eva Snead, M.D.
Posted by: john | January 10, 2013 at 05:37 AM
Latest news...flu shots protect your heart!
How funny...I thought mercury was bad for your heart.
Posted by: Andrea | October 28, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Elderly people are brain washed by lies "we are protecting you". They have no control over what is happening there,most
of them are over-medicated and never had an informed choice discussion.The doctor just walks in one morning and immunizes everybody with the nurse.Most of them never leave their room,they hardly have visitors,their chances to get flu is nearly zero.It is a useless vaccine to weaken their immune system and to increase their toxic load.
Posted by: oneVoice | October 27, 2012 at 12:50 PM
"Yes, wear the masks! (the alternative to the flu shot) Then people will see how many healthcare workers don't want to get them!"
Yes, yes, yes.
Goodness people we have GOT to WAKE UP!!! The purpose of the "flu shot" is OBVIOUSLY NOT to keep you healthy!
If you but take a little time this protocol will demonstrate the following.
The CDC has CONTINUOUSLY overstated the mortality of seasonal influenza often by over 100 fold. They are NOW saying they have no idea how many die from the seasonal flu. We know it is less than 700/year for MOST years, perhaps MUCH less if based on serological results. Honest figures from the UK imply about 300/year die in the USA from influenza
The CDC has presented a model of the seasonal flu that it totally at odds with the evidence. The CDC is pretending they do not know what is causing the flu. They KNOW. At all levels the "Seasonal Flu" information given us by HHS is egregiously incorrect.
86% of the time during "flu season" when you come down with "flu symptoms" it is NOT from the influenza A or B virus but by some other 200 or so virus inhabiting your body.
The "flu vaccine" only sometimes, in theory, "protects" against influenza A and B viruses. Thus even in theory the "flu vaccine" cannot "protect" you from 86% of flu episodes.
Honest examination of "flu vaccine" testing has found the "seasonal flu vaccine" to be completely and totally WORTHLESS when corrected for testing biases. Honest independent testing shows "benefits" negative or too low to measure with any confidence
The "seasonal flu" and more importantly all viral flu is caused primarily by the seasonal low in our vitamin D levels. Thus the "cure" for seasonal flu and all viral flu is sunshine and vitamin D.
Almost all forms of the "flu vaccination" contain the extremely neurodegenerative mercury most often 25 mcg. All forms include the exceedingly toxic IMO "H1N1 vaccine"
Return to Flu Shot Protection and Flu Protection Protocol
http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot.htm
Posted by: Lou | October 27, 2012 at 12:33 PM
This whole "nursing home" fiasco is so infuriating to me. The number ONE PROBLEM, well known to the CDC et al is
LOW VITAMIN D LEVELS
in NH residents. Often below 10 ng/lm
Not only is this inducing "seasonal flu" and ALL viral flu but is helping to kill off the NH residents in THOUSANDS of ways.
But speeding the passage of NH residents to the next life is the purpose of NHs no?
http://healthyprotocols.com/3_aging_1.htm
Posted by: Lou | October 27, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Hi this site was passed on to me by a friend of a BC healthcare worker who is being forced to be vaccinated, the reference page at the back has some very credible research links in it, Use it as ammo when someone tries to tell you how great the vaccine is - see - https://sites.google.com/site/vaccinesandmasks/
I would not be surprised if deaths went up with the elderly, it is CRIMINAL that these con artists are getting away with vaccinating older adults at all..the research without question shows the vaccines dont work on the elderly...Have you noticed that when we were growing up, there was no yearly panic about the flu vaccine? Its the same viruses, the same death rates, its just now we are so medicalized and dependant on big pharma we cant remember our past.
Posted by: Tracy Lymb | October 27, 2012 at 01:15 AM
I've talked to a health care worker at a nursing home and they call flu shot day, "culling day."
Posted by: Cynthia Cournoyer | October 26, 2012 at 11:15 PM
As the holiday and flu season winds up for 2012...
Remember, the "L" in "FLU" vaccine stands for the "Love" big Pharma has for your children, your parents, and your family.
Without the "L" .... we would simply have the F U vaccine.
I would guess that the nursing homes have spikes in SSDS this time of year, Of course the CDC would never analyze any senior VAERS reports that come in.
Posted by: cmo | October 26, 2012 at 08:28 PM
".... As I perceive it, the danger of the flu vaccine, would be the mercury causing changes in heart rhythm..... "
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While mercury is definitely ONE of the known dangers of a flu vaccine, i seriously doubt that it's the only one.
Vaccines are legalized poisons, and are best avoided no matter what form is being offered.
Posted by: Barry | October 26, 2012 at 08:28 PM
For sure my Mother died after a persisting cough aged 73 years 5 weeks after a flu vac diagnosed as cancer (what does that mean?)..obviously not vaccine damage..shit no way was it vaccine damage!!
R.I.P. all
Angus
Posted by: Angus Files | October 26, 2012 at 07:29 PM
Yes, I have a family member who works at one. Every year after flu shots the residents drop like flies.
Posted by: Anon | October 26, 2012 at 07:23 PM
recently my 76 year old mom, who swears by flu shots, got hers...along with a handful of elderly friends of hers. whether there's a connection or not, 4 of these friends are now being hospitalised or long-termed for various reasons. among them, heart attack,(irregular rhythms) pneumonia and stroke. one with alzheimer's disease has gotten "much worse".
i am 57 and the only time i got the flu as an adult was when i was 20 and in prison, when we were forced to get flu shots. subsequently everyone on unit, prisoners and guards alike, came down with flu. it was the sickest i have ever been.
my unvaccinated (for anything since the first infant ones that damaged her: autism and seizures)is 9 years old. she has never had measles, chicken pox, mumps, no polio, no flu, no whooping cough and is rarely sick.
these greedy bastards at the big pharmaceutical have money as their motive. but one can't help but wonder if their is a much more sinister agenda afoot. creating diseases to sell a cure is one thing, creating fear of epidemics to sell a risky poison is another, but purposeful depopulation is something i wouldn't be surprised to find as well.
Posted by: moon batchelder | October 26, 2012 at 06:05 PM
To Maurine Meleck, As I perceive it, the danger of the flu vaccine, would be the mercury causing changes in heart rhythm. One would imagine that this would not happen with the nose spray. It will be interesting to see if these care facilities change to the spray or not.
Posted by: Cherry Sperlin Misra | October 26, 2012 at 05:35 PM
This research was only talked about in terms of showing that a healthy user effect may be the cause of the vaccine's sometimes apparent efficacy. But I don't understand why this research does not also demonstrate the possibility that "healthy users" increased their mortality risk by taking the vaccine?
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/11/does-the-vaccine-matter/307723/
"Jackson’s findings showed that outside of flu season, the baseline risk of death among people who did not get vaccinated was approximately 60 percent higher than among those who did, lending support to the hypothesis that on average, healthy people chose to get the vaccine, while the “frail elderly” didn’t or couldn’t. In fact, the healthy-user effect explained the entire benefit that other researchers were attributing to flu vaccine, suggesting that the vaccine itself might not reduce mortality at all. Jackson’s papers 'are beautiful,' says Lone Simonsen, who is a professor of global health at George Washington University, in Washington, D.C., and an internationally recognized expert in influenza and vaccine epidemiology. 'They are classic studies in epidemiology, they are so carefully done.'"
Posted by: Jeannette Bishop | October 26, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Yes, mu mother-in-law died soon after her flu vaccination. I truly believe these vaccines are designed to kill the elderly. Is is shown in VAERS data.
Posted by: no vac | October 26, 2012 at 12:27 PM
As an autism researcher who is well aware of the dangers of mercury and vaccines in general, this makes me sick. I fear for my father who will most likely be exposed to the flu shot. His health is where it is today because of many years of flu shots and prescription drugs.
Posted by: Mary Cavanaugh | October 26, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Vaccines are not now, nor have they ever been about disease prevention. That why there isn't a doctor alive who can produce any real science to prove that they do. Just ask one to produce it, and watch how angry it makes them.
I cant say for sure who's behind this or why, but vaccines have been designed to create sickness, death and to sabotage our ability to reproduce.
It has become too obvious to ignore, and its long past time for the sickos behind it to be stopped, and then punished for their egregious crimes against humanity.
My preference would be to roast them over burning piles of their own money... but of course that part can be debated anytime AFTER this madness has been stopped.
Posted by: Barry | October 26, 2012 at 11:37 AM
YES! My elderly neighbor was telling me on Monday that she's lost three friends from heart attacks within 6 days of each other. I said, "yeah well it's flu vaccine season", and she said, " makes ya' wonder". I told her it does make me wonder why, given the scurrying going on to identify all of the meningitis cases linked to cortisone shots, NO ONE cares about the post vaccine heart attacks.
Posted by: barbara j | October 26, 2012 at 11:26 AM
BC healthcare workers (sorry I didn't torovide link but iPad often fails me for this) union is fighting mandatory shots. Apparently flu shot uptake is under 50% for the healthcare workers there and a lot of them are citing the Cochrane evaluations and bringing up points that are interesting. One nurse even mentioned that some who used to get shots are not getting it this year in protest. Some commenters are saying, " yes, wear the masks! (the alternative to the flu shot) Then people will see how many healthcare workers don't want to get them!"
Posted by: Jen | October 26, 2012 at 11:25 AM
flu shot on tues, shingles on sat, dementia following wednesday - slowly coming around now. Doctor blames shingles medication for the dementia. aaarggghhhhh How do I prove it? I can't, but I know it was the kick start
Posted by: when will the madness end? | October 26, 2012 at 10:18 AM
My 80 year old mom got pneumonia within a few days after her last flu shot and my father with AD who had been doing fairly well suddenly started hallucinating and got much worse a week after their last shot. Fortunately my mother survived and I was able to convince her to stay away from further flu shots. She hasn't had a bout of pneumonia since--that was 5 plus years ago and she is still living on her own. My father has since died of Alzheimer's however. OTOH I know of a 90+ year woman who is still living on her own who gets the flu shot religiously. So there must be factors that affect individual vulnerability to mercury (oh yeah, scientists know that is true).
Still, I would definitely bet yes there are more deaths than normal in the week following flu shot administration in nursing homes. A caring nursing home administrator could probably look at their own facilities records to see if there was a trend over the years.
But it would take lots of records from multiple institutions to determine if this hypothesis is correct. I am not sure nursing home businesses would care though, since there are always more residents coming along. Flu shots in the community probably end up sending more people to nursing homes and they even have a developing new customer base that consists of young people with developmental disabilities. For nursing homes and care facilities, and hospitals, the mercury laden flu shot is likely just really good for business.
Posted by: Just say no! | October 26, 2012 at 09:48 AM
My neighbor across the street, an elderly man, got a flu shot several years ago and drop dead the next afternoon in his front yard. He had been fine. His wife asked if it could have been the shot and the doctor told her, "That's ridiculous. That's your grief talking."
Anne Dachel, Media
Posted by: Anne McElroy Dachel | October 26, 2012 at 09:27 AM
Flu deaths in nursing homes are something we will never know the truth about. The CDC relies on those deceased numbers for its annual flu death rate. I have a brother-in-law(a retired cardiologist) in one of these facilities who took his flu vaccine every year for dozens of years --and now has AD. Imagine, too, if some use the nose spray and how it can spread from resident to resident
Maurine
Posted by: Maurine Meleck | October 26, 2012 at 08:26 AM