Italian Court Rules MMR Causes Autism
UK Editor's Note: At the requets of CHS this article has been updated in line with the current modifications to the original of 27 May 2012.
We present here a professional medical translation of the full text of the decision of the Italian Court of Rimini holding that the MMR vaccine causes autism in children. First a few observations.
The MMR vaccines used in Italy prior to 2007 were is Merck’s MMR II, GSK’s Priorix and Morupar, from Chiron [until the latter was withdrawn urgently on short notice by W.H.O. because it was unsafe: click here and here for copies of W.H.O. and other documents - [Green text updated 26/5/12]]. Morupar is a Urabe mumps virus strain containing vaccine, which is the type abandoned unilaterally and urgently in the UK in September 1992 by the manufacturer [a GSK company] for legal reasons because of the high levels of all kinds of adverse reactions it causes. It was done so urgently that the UK’s Department of Health was not even given a week to break the news. However, the kind of MMR vaccine Hannah Poling in the US received with 8 other vaccines on the same day would have been Merck’s MMR vaccine containing the Jeryl Lynn strain of mumps virus. [US Government In US$20 million Legal Settlement For Vaccine Caused Autism Case]
And here is the key part of the Italian Court’s judgement:
The medicolegal and auxilary medicolegal assessments must be conducted according to their merits, which, on the basis of an in depth examination of the case in the light of the specialist literature to date, has conclusively established that the young child is suffering from AUTISTIC DISORDER ASSOCIATED WITH MEDIUM COGNITIVE DELAY ascribed with reasonable scientific probability due to the administration of the vaccine MMR occurring on the date 26\3\2004 at the ALS of Riccione
It should also be acknowledged that the auxiliary evaluation pursuant to the Medical Commission has expressed the view that there is a permanent impairment of physical and mental integrity established, ascribed to the first category of Table A, attached to the DPR 30 \ 12 \ 81 n.834.
Now a further point to be made is that in common law jurisdictions like England, Australia, Canada and the USA and many more, a finding of fact by a Court of first instance is extremely difficult to overturn except in the case of manifest error or some other factor like fraud.
Additionally, it appears the judgement of the Italian Court was by consent, which also appears to mean 1) the Italian health authorities did not contest the findings and 2) they cannot appeal. If a qualified Italian lawyer might like to comment here on CHS on whether that is a correct intepretation of the judgement that would be appreciated. The relevant part of the judgement is:
The case, informed through the production of documents and the testing of medical-legal advice, was discussed at today’s public hearing as a consent decree.
The English translation provided here has been kindly provided by Dr JLM Donegan.
Dr Donegan is the only English medical practitioner whose advice on vaccination issues has been found in a three week UK General Medical Council legal trial in August 2007 to the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt to be based on valid medical and scientific literature, not to be misleading and unaffected by any personal views Dr Donegan may hold – in other words Dr Donegan’s advice is independent, objective and unbiased. The findings in the case were most unusual. Instead of finding that the GMC prosecution’s case was not proven, the hearing panel made a positive finding and found in Dr Donegan’s favour to the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt that her defence was proven.
More information can be found here:
UK’s GMC, Dr Jayne Donegan’s Story, Vaccines & MMR
The hearing came about after Lord Justice Sedley in the English Court of Appeal condemned Dr Donegan’s evidence to the English Family Court as “junk science”. This was without Dr Donegan even being present, given any opportunity for comment or being represented. [So much for English justice].
The GMC’s expert witness at the GMC trial, Dr David Elliman, then of Great Ormond Street Hospital spent 5 months preparing an expert report against Dr Donegan for the August 2007 hearing for the purpose of having Dr Donegan’s medical licence revoked, only to be forced to admit in cross-examination that he was “quibbling” over a few details.
Interestingly, whilst Dr Elliman was spending all this time on his report for the GMC prosecution there were problems in the unit he managed at Gt Ormond St Hospital. Despite being warned by his professional staff he took no management action. This matter came to a head with what has become known as the scandal of the death of “Baby P”. In short a child died, killed as a result of extensive injuries over many months caused by child abuse by the partner of the child’s mother.
Dr Elliman has never been charged by the General Medical Council with anything nor has his licence to practise medicine been revoked. The UK’s General Medical Council appears to have done nothing whatsoever about this despite their main purpose being to regulate the conduct and practice of medical doctors to protect the public. Well, they did not protect “Baby P” and by doing nothing they will not protect all the other “Baby P’s” there may be in future. They did however spend millions of pounds getting Dr Wakefield’s licence revoked and now it appears that all along Dr Wakefield was right.
Here follows the translated judgement. Any observations on or suggestions for improvements to the translation or typographical or other errors would be appreciated as this has been prepared as rapidly as reasonably possible:
Italian Republic
On behalf of the Italian people
The Ordinary Court of Rimini
Civil Division, Labour Section
With a single judge presiding in the person of Judge Lucius ARDIGO’ pronounces
JUDGMENT
in the civil case, with the ritual of work, registered as N.474 \ 10 RGL brought forward by:
XXXX and XXXX on their own behalf and as parents exercising parental authority in the case of their son, a minor xxxx (child)
represented and defended by the lawyer. VENTALORO LUCA with an address for service in Viale Principe Amedeo 12 47900 RIMIN at the Chambers of. VENTALORO LUCA
-APPLICANT-
AGAINST
MINISTRY OF HEALTH (CF80242255589), with the ADVOCACY of the lawyer DISTRICT STATE ADVOCATE electively domiciled in Via Guido Reni 4 40125 BOLOGNA at the Chambers of. DISTRICT STATE ADVOCATE
-AGREED-
Concerning
Compensation under Article 2, paragraph 1, of Law no. 210, 1992
GROUNDS FOR DECISION
By application filed 8 \ 06 \ 2012 XXXX and XXXX on behalf of themselves and in their capacity as parents exercising parental authority over the child xxxx agreed to press charges against the Ministry of Health, applying that they be ordered to pay compensation for irreversible damages from complications caused by compulsory vaccination
The basis for the application stated that on 26 \ 03 \ 2004 the minor (child) xxxx was subjected to prophylactic trivalent MMR at the AUSL (Local Health Authority) of Riccione.
The same daily worrying symptoms arose daily (diarrhoea, nervousness) between 2004 and 2005. xxxx (the child) experienced signs of serious psychological and physical discomfort as far as the date of 31 \ 08 \ 2007 when the recognition took place that he was invalided totally and permanently to a level of 100%
Only on the date 27 \ 06 \ 2008, did the specialist Dr. Niglio attest as to how the reported damages to the minor (child) were attributable to the vaccination carried out, this theory was definitively confirmed on the date 25 \ 07 \ 2009 by the specialist Dr. MONTANARI.
Therefore on the date 28 \ 04 \ 2008 the parents, the applicants, submitted an application for verification of eligibility requirements for the compensation provided for the benefit of those harmed by the irreversible complications due to mandatory, vaccinations, but on the date 13 \ 10 \ 2008 the Medical Hospital Commission refused the application because the MMR vaccination did not turn out to be compulsory by law or ordinance of Health Authority.
The case, informed through the production of documents and the testing of medical-legal advice, was discussed at today’s public hearing as a consent decree.
In a preliminary ruling it was asserted that the the capacity to be sued of the Ministry was exempted under the provisions of Article D of .114> L.vo No. 112 of 1998, regarding the contribution to the Region of the functions and administrative tasks relating to Health, Article 123. This same decree explicitly recognized the retention by the State of the duties relating to appeals (to be understood both as administrative and judicial, in the absence of normative distinction) for the payment of compensation in favour of those harmed by the irreversible complications due to vaccinations, compulsory medical treatment and the like.
The latter theory shared by the most recent and prevailing case law of the Supreme Court of Cassation (Highest Court of Appeal) which has clarified how in the case of especially the capacity to be sued, it is exclusively the responsibility of the Ministry of Health (see most recently Cass. Sec. L n. 29311 of 28 \ 12 \ 2011 Rv. 620379; Compliant same section 13 \ 10 \ 2009 n. 21702, n.21703, n.21704 of 3 \ 11 \ 2009 n. 23216, n. 23217, by 5 \ 11 \ 2009 n. 23434, the 6 \ 11 \ 2009 n. 23588).
In point of law it is considered that the fact that the alleged permanent impairment of physical or mental integrity is due to a compulsory vaccination cannot be an impediment to the recognition of compensation required.
Referred to herein and in fact, to the judgment of the Constitutional Court. 27 \ 1998 and 423 \ 2000 that it was declared unconstitutional by violation of Articles 2 and 32 Constitution, Article 1, paragraph 1, I. February 25, 1992 No 210 (Compensation for those harmed by complications of an irreversible type because of mandatory vaccination, blood transfusion and the administration of blood products), in so far as it provided no entitlement to compensation under the conditions specified therein, of those who were subjected to non-compulsory vaccinations against Hepatitis B and Poliomyelitis as a result of campaigns by the Health Authority to legally promote the dissemination of these vaccinations.
The aforementioned vaccinations, like the trivalent MMR vaccination in question, had been strongly encouraged by the state while not imposing a legal obligation: it is not constitutionally permissible in the light of Articles 2:32 of the Constitution, to require that the individual puts his own health at risk for the collective interest, without collective being willing to share, if you will, the weight of the negative consequences, there is no reason to differentiate from point of view of the aforesaid principle, the case where medical treatment is required by statute and that in which it is according to a law promoted by public authorities, in view of its widespread distribution in society.
The medicolegal and auxilary medicolegal assessments must be conducted according to their merits, which, on the basis of an in depth examination of the case in the light of the specialist literature to date, has conclusively established that the young child is suffering from AUTISTIC DISORDER ASSOCIATED WITH MEDIUM COGNITIVE DELAY ascribed with reasonable scientific probability due to the administration of the vaccine MMR occurring on the date 26\3\2004 at the ALS of Riccione
It should also be acknowledged that the auxiliary evaluation pursuant to the Medical Commission has expressed the view that there is a permanent impairment of physical and mental integrity established, ascribed to the first category of Table A, attached to the DPR 30 \ 12 \ 81 n.834.
As for the ascertainment, on the part of the parents, of the actual knowledge of the cause of disability, it should be noted that in none of the medical records examined was the clinical picture established definitely as post-vaccine, in the sense of, caused by inoculation of the vaccine, and that the causal relationship is indicated for the first time only in the medical report on 27 \ 06 \ 2008 of the specialist Dr. Niglio.
In particular, we should highlight as the starting point, not reckoned in the knowledge of the diagnosis, or by the mere suspicion of an origin from compulsory vaccination, but from the moment when, on the basis of medical records, the claimant is found to have had knowledge of the damage, that awareness of the aetiological relationship between irreversible injury (including ascribability table) and the cause from vaccination (which entitles you to compensation).
As reiterated by the Supreme Court in the analogous issue of knowledge of occupational disease indemnification, it is not sufficient that the employee is informed of the mere professional/ occupational origin of the disease but it is also necessary that the same is aware of the importance of sequelae so as to provide an impairment higher than threshold percentage fixed for the recognition of pension entitlement (see in this sense civil Cassation section. Lav., April 3, 1993, No. 4031, in Riv. In fort. and mal. Prof. in 1993, II, 111; Supreme Court as well as civil sez. Lav., January 8, 1996, n. 63 INAIL Bulgari c rv 495 260)
Therefore, a deadline of two years from knowledge of the cause of the damage is enforced(Article 3 of Law no. 210, 1992), being the permanent impairment of psycho-physical integrity due to 1 / \ category in Table A attached to the DPR 30 \ 12 \ 81 n.834, and should be entitled to compensation provided for under Articles 1 and 2 of Law 210 \ 1992 comprised therein for the payment of the One off payment of Article 2 paragraph 2 of that law.
Under the combined provision in the Article 429 c.p.c. and 16. paragraph 6 of Law 30 December 1991, No. 412, the amount due in respect of statutory interest on pension claims is used to offset any amounts payable for the restoration of greater damages for the diminished value of the claim, which is why an adjustment for inflation becomes operational only for periods of time which the amount of interest is not sufficient to cover the full damage due to devaluation.
The court costs are settled on a payment formula accepted by the Ministry according to the general criterion of negative outcomes.
For this same reason they are definitively accepted by the Ministry as are the costs of CTU, to the extent already settled by a separate decree.
FOR THESE REASONS
THE ORDINARY COURT OF RIMINI
with a single judge presiding in the function of judge of the work
pronouncing definitively on the application brought by XXXX and XXXX as parents exercising parental authority over the child xxxx with an application lodged on 8 \ 06 \ 2012, dismissing all other claims, objections or inferences, will thus provide, in adversarial proceedings with the Ministry of Health:
1) I verify that (child) xxxx has been irreversibly damaged by complications caused by vaccination (prophylaxis trivalent MMR) with a right to compensation referred to in Articles 1 and 2 of Law no. 210, 1992, ( lifetime pension backdated for fifteen years), I order the Ministry of Health in the person of the Minister in charge to pay to (child) xxxx the compensation provided for by Articles 1 and 2 of Law 210/1992 including the payment of the One off payment of Article 2 paragraph 2 of that Act (for the arrears plus interest accrued in so far as legally possible and the second monetary revaluation ISTAT indexes, as required by law for payment of the application);
1. I Order the Ministery of Health to pay the court fees in settlement a total of Euro 2.500,00 in addition LVA, CPA and reimbursement of the general charges as required by law;
2. I definitively place the burden on the Ministry of Health to meet expenses of CTU (Expert witnesses).
Thus decided in Rimini, public hearing on the 15 \ 03 \ 2012.
THE JUDGE
Lucio ARDIGO ‘Translated by JLM Donegan 23 May 2012
Breaking News: US Vaccine Court Awards Millions for 2 Autism Diagnosis Cases
http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/01/breaking-news-us-vaccine-court-awards-millions-for-2-autism-diagnosis-cases.html
Posted by: ChildHealthSafety | January 15, 2013 at 02:14 AM
Hi Ya Twisted - "Until it happens in the United States, it isn't to be believed."
Already happened in the USA - as others pointed out.
BUT NOW IT HAS HAPPENED AGAIN - a US Court has awarded TWO autistic children multimillion dollar payouts after their brain injuries were found to be caused by the MMR vaccine.
Posted by: ChildHealthSafety | January 15, 2013 at 02:12 AM
what the heck, who freakin knows anymore
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Posted by: candie | January 14, 2013 at 01:59 AM
OK, so we've got Google, and we can find out quickly what "MMR" stands for. Might it not nevertheless have been polite to mention that?
Posted by: Michael Hardy | January 14, 2013 at 01:25 AM
I'm probably behind a bit on the reading, for me this was an "eurika", in 1996 they discovered reverse transcriptase, and no one is certain if we've discovered all of the possible retroviruses in the MMR?
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=8y6MAv8o6dcC&oi=fnd&pg=PA1897&dq=retrovirus+found+in+autism&ots=WqNCTYlUR8&sig=3EW_kkJhcIH6TdbutldoshOZpUQ#v=onepage&q=retrovirus%20found%20in%20autism&f=false
Posted by: barbaraj | May 31, 2012 at 02:24 PM
“If a qualified Italian lawyer might like to comment here on CHS on whether that is a correct intepretation of the judgement that would be appreciated.”
Below is the e-mail of an Italian lawyer who will be more than willing to help.
[email protected]
Posted by: Ruth | May 29, 2012 at 09:18 AM
New post on CHS:
'So what we can also say from this is the government health officials in all countries must know this and have known this for at least a decade if not more. They have constantly and continuously still maintained the position that vaccines do not cause autistic conditions, in the teeth of the evidence.'
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/italy-court-holds-mmr-vaccine-causes-autism-iv-but-so-has-the-usa-some-autism-history/
Posted by: John Stone | May 28, 2012 at 06:29 PM
Have there been any trials, using anti-viral medications to get rid of the likely retroviruses in the MMR? Have they tried tetracycline for a kind of chelation of bacterial remnants? The nobel laureate, so criticized in the media this week with his mention of bacteria emitting ..may be on to something that should be addressed.
Posted by: barbaraj | May 28, 2012 at 05:36 PM
@ Twisted:
So I should believe you over Thomas Insel? Why?
Posted by: Ottschnaut | May 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM
I read with interest the story link to the wwii era pesticides and their effects on future generations. Many of these pesticides continue to be used, some with banned chemicals allowed as contaminants, others such as defoliants are sprayed daily up and down our highways and on our lawns. These have always been known as mitochondria disruptors. Once a not so bright group fround that on tasting phenoxy herbicides they would lose weight quickly, however the metabolism effect was that of a constant running engine and they died. The clues to autism are so variable and extensive , and could possibly, as this story tells, date back generations or be something newly acquired through more current and acute exposures such as a baby toddling across a newly sprayed playground. I have a neighbor who insists that her baby's exposure followed by the mmr was the necessary mix to bring on his autism. ..and I believe her...completely. I also believe the parent who thinks she od'd on folic acid, and perhaps her son's very interesting blood work that shows that he now requires more folic acid to keep him up and running, and that this along with the mmr caused autism. I believe the mom who swears it was the tylenol given at the time of the mmr together caused autism.
The MMR seems to ring out loud and clear as a major cause of autism. My son did NOT have his mmr when he regressed, however, he did have his dtap and his brother had his mmr on the same day. We read "epigenics" is the answer, then upon looking we find that methylation will and can fit into that process, as well, we find that delayed mercury excretion severely impairs methylation reactions. Could the current toxic soup of chemicals that affect the very biology of our children be considered as immune altering and make the current vaccines ,based on fifties medicine, dangerous and life threatening for our kids? Should we consider any live vaccine as potentially life altering or ending? Our kids are sick, our mortality rate is close to third world, we are doing it wrong. I read this , this morning, please read, it fits in with the condition of our children and live vaccine usage .
http://www.autismcalciumchannelopathy.com/HIV_and_Autism.html
Posted by: barbaraj | May 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM
In Italy, they screen their kids for celiac disease prior to kindergarten. We should all be doing that.
Posted by: maggie | May 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM
"Measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccination is a very safe and effective health intervention. However, hypersensitivity reactions to this vaccine have been reported by various authors. In the past, allergic reactions were attributed to egg proteins. Because the majority of severe reactions were observed in egg-tolerant individuals, sensitization to other components was evaluated, and gelatin allergy was demonstrated.
In Italy an increase of immediate allergic reactions in children vaccinated with a brand of MMR vaccine, Morupar (Chiron, Siena, Italy), caused alarm among public health personnel a few years ago. Moreover, allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, after administration of the same MMR vaccine were reported in Brazil during a national vaccination campaign.
The potentially allergenic components of the Morupar vaccine included neomycin sulfate (up to 10 mg/dose), as well as residual traces of egg proteins, hydrolyzed casein, and Dextran 70 (Sigma-Aldrich, St Louis, Mo), the concentration of which could not be precisely stated by the manufacturer. Gelatin and latex were not present, according to the manufacturer’s certification. A detailed analysis of vaccine adverse event reports was performed, and the
reactions were discussed at the international level with vaccine safety experts (see acknowledgements). Allergy to a vaccine component was suspected. Neomycin was ruled out because it mainly causes late hypersensitivity reactions; egg proteins and casein were considered improbable causes because all but 1 of the patients tolerated the ingestion of eggs and milk. Therefore dextran, which was present in this brand only, was singled out as the potential culprit....Hypersensitivity reactions to intravenous dextran therapy have been recognized since the 1960s. The reported incidence of anaphylactic-like reactions has ranged from 0.03% to 1.10% of patients and has been attributed to the active ingredient and not to contaminants. Immune complex–mediated reactions caused by naturally occurring dextran-reactive antibodies are considered the most likely pathogenetic mechanism, with complement activation and anaphylotoxin release...."
http://www.ospedaleuniverona.it/attach/Content/Servizi/5424/o/jallergyclinimmunol2008.pdf
Posted by: Carol | May 28, 2012 at 07:32 AM
Hia Twisted
But it has happened in the US, for instance in the Bailey Banks case when the MMR (presumably Merck's MMR II) was held to have caused his autistic symptoms:
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/mpsmisledovermmr/
Also, the HRSA told Sharryl Attkisson of CBS:
"We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20016356-10391695.html
In the US, as in Italy, this is to a civil standard. While it might be nice to envisage criminal prosecutions against the perpetrators of vaccine damage, it is a bit unrealistic at the present time.
You seem to have an attitude problem. It is obviously of relavance when many thousands of parents have seen their children hurt by vaccines that there have indeed been such awards, even if rather sparsely.
Posted by: John Stone | May 28, 2012 at 04:28 AM
For nearly 20 years we have been asking the medical profession and pharmaceuticals companies to take another look at the possibility of serious long term vaccine damage. With overwhelming numbers of Autism worldwide, and the families who report the distressing life changing details in their babies after MMR vaccination, one would think that this was quite a reasonable request. But of course in reality they already know.
Let's now hope that in light of the Italian Judgement,those involved can no longer stick their heads in the sand and will be obligated to tell the truth about any concerns that really do exist in their own trials.
Where is a good whistle blower when you need one?
Posted by: JanP | May 28, 2012 at 03:12 AM
What a bunch of garbage. Until it happens in the United States, it isn't to be believed. This is a geopolitical decision. It improves the image of Italian drug makers and tarnishes an American one. The reason it hasn't been done here is because it's based on nonsense. The burden of proof needed in a criminal case in an American court is way higher than the burden used in an Italian civil case.
Seriously, get over it. Hundreds of millions of us were vaccinated with no apparent consequences. If the drug played a part, it's obvious it was due to genetic deficiencies in the parents of a tiny fraction of children. Like many diseases, Autism was around long before it was diagnosed and given a name in the 20th Century. It's quite obvious to anyone with a shred of logical ability that the history of the disease and supposed increase in rates is due to a generalization of the symptoms during the modern diagnosis process. It's not increasing, it just has a name now, and it's easy for doctors to lump anyone into a disease with such loose diagnostics. Think ADD and ADHD.
Posted by: twistedcross | May 28, 2012 at 01:15 AM
I hope this is another step forward in the process of bringing down the house of cards which is vaccination. And especially highlighting the damage caused by MMR vaccine, whether it contain Urabe strain, Jeryl Lynn or whichever. So many children and now adults have been damaged by MMR, the situation is desperate, and has been for a long time. Yet the damage continues relentlessly.
Posted by: Seonaid | May 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM
I look forward to hearing the esteemed Dr Yazbak's observations on this (Italian) Judgement.
Posted by: Keith Roberts | May 26, 2012 at 05:16 PM
I was wondering would they have come to the same decision if it was,nt the urabe
Posted by: Debra | May 26, 2012 at 02:49 PM
I understand from the merck comment and from the studies that the mmr is so variable as to content that our children are literally part of an experiment where safety issues are only addressed after damage when then tweaks can be applied. I wonder, as well, how many children are being diagnosed with febrile seizures that could have occurred after these vaccines, absent of fever. It seems the adjective febrile is suppose to make us think benign?
in the journal of virology..this comment should be of concern and require deeper investigation..
Our data indicate that the sources of RT activity in all RT-positive measles and mumps vaccines may not be similar and depend on the particular endogenous retroviral loci present in the chicken cell substrate used..
Posted by: barbaraj | May 26, 2012 at 12:32 PM
"March 16, 2006: 9:40 AM EST
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Chiron Corp. said Thursday that is recalling its Morupar vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella.
Chiron, a California-based drug maker, said it provided 5 million doses of the treatment in 2005, mostly for developing countries, through the United Nations Children's Fund and Pan American Health Organization.
Chiron said it is recalling the vaccine after noticing adverse events, including fever, allergic reactions and swelling of the glands, during routine surveillance of inoculated patients in Italy. Chiron said the events do not affect long-term health...."
http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/16/news/companies/chiron/index.htm
Posted by: Carol | May 26, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Barbaraj
This 2006 study shows that 1 in 16/17 infants were getting a temperature of 39.5C or greater with MMR
http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/10/the-naked-cdc-the-truth-about-mmr-or-part-of-it-in-their-own-words.html
John
Posted by: John Stone | May 26, 2012 at 11:23 AM
from merck 3/7/08, Preliminary results from an mmrv vaccine safety study among children aged 12 to 23 months implemented by the cdc found that rhe rates of febrile seizures during the 7 to 10 days after vaccine wasw about 2 times higher in children who received mmrv vaccine compared with children who received mmr and varicella vaccines separately at the same visit.
WHY? Shouldn't that why be answered and offer a needed clue?
Posted by: barbaraj | May 26, 2012 at 11:02 AM
...and replicate "dubious" studies that prove a negative..ones that can answer this..from Journal of Clinical Microbiology "All vaccines that are prepared in chicken embryo fibroblasts (CEFs) contain a low level of particle-associated reverse transcriptase (RT) activity, which is produced from the avian cell substrate. The RNAs present in the particles have sequence homology to viral DNAs belonging to the ancient endogenous avian virus (EAV) family or to the avian sarcoma-leukosis virus (ALV)-related subgroup E endogenous virus loci. Although no replication-competent retrovirus has been associated with the RT activity produced from CEFs, there have been some theoretical safety concerns regarding potential consequences of integration of EAV and ALV sequences in human DNA, which may result from nonproductive infection with replication-defective particles or infection with EAV and ALV pseudotypes bearing measles virus envelopes. "
from the journal of virology"The present data do not support transmission of either ALV or EAV to recipients of the U.S.-made vaccine and provide reassurance for current immunization policies.
Current..a small sampling of 33 children? this issue is huge and needs more than assurances that "present data do not..."
Hoping for studies in these areas will take this to the root of autism, this emerging issue..needs far more study..are we or are we not giving our children acquired immune deficiency via retrovirus contamination? ..at this time no evidence..science evolves in time..and these concerns need money and interest outside of our government sponsorship. What does "in the US suggest?"
Posted by: barbaraj | May 26, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Dear Jennie & Keith,
Is not perhaps the key to this is that the Italian government or state does not deny that the vaccine caused the autism - their defence is that the parents were responsible because the vaccine wasn't mandatory? So, not only have they not denied it, it points to a legal position similar to the UK rather than the US where we know there have been decisions (the report mentions Hannah Poling but perhaps Bailey Banks is even more relevant).
In this case the court takes the view nevertheless that the state is resposible because of the advice they gave the parents. What would a British court do, and would it ever get before one? Clearly for parents the decision is taken at the risk of the child and their family and Dr Salisbury has recently indicated that he is not keen to get the Department of Health (DH) into the same situation of liability that exists in the US (at least by implication). And as it is we have (1) a risible compensation scheme which lies in the hands of cynical and ill-qualified public servants in which most years nothing gets paid out at all (2) and an almost entirely theoretical hope of bringing the matter to court given the politicisation of the funder, the Legal Services Commission. This seems to me to be a crucial point, that there is no effective liability by government, state or manufacturer, no sanction against them, and that parents are presently being put in an entirely unfair situation in being asked to take this on themselves.
Nevertheless, this a watershed victory: a court has ruled that at least one version of MMR, similar to Pluserix, which the manufacturers but not the DH withdrew in a panic in 1992, can cause autism.
I also seem to remember that Dr Salisbury stated under oath at the GMC that MMR (generically) had an exemplary safety record (having perhaps had a temporary absence about Pluserix).
Perhaps, if the DH and the NHS want to cover themselves they ought to be more frank about the downside.
John
Posted by: John Stone | May 26, 2012 at 10:19 AM
It is greatly to be hoped that this science based judgement will resonate especially with the Italian-American autistic community. As a result Dr Wakefield, Professor Lipkin et al will now feel empowered to pursue some of the very many vaccine damage cases through the Courts in the US.
Essential to successful outcome there (i.e. in the US ) will be the disclosure of the medical/scientific evidence which persuaded the Defendant Italian Health Authority to judge in favour of the Claimants in that case.
Could this be the long awaited 'light at the end of the tunnel'?
Keith and Jennifer Horne-Roberts.
Posted by: Keith Roberts | May 26, 2012 at 09:33 AM
Let us devoutly hope this will be a long-awaited and much needed breakthrough for those of us in the autism community fighting for so many years for justice for our children.
Jennie and Keith, Parents of our most beloved Harry Horne-Roberts RIP UK>
Posted by: Jennifer Horne-Roberts | May 26, 2012 at 07:47 AM