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Neurologist Mechtler Blames Post 9/11 World for Leroy NY Sickness "We are going to see more."

Cuckoo_for_Cocoa_PuffsManaging Editor's Note: Neurologist Laszlo Mechtler of the (Scratch and) Dent Neurology Clinic where the Leroy NY girls have been diagnosed with Conversion Disorder seems to blame the stress of the post 9/11 world in The Week, a UK publication. And he suggests there will be more of the same. My father grew up in the Depression, my Mom was little girl during WWII - can you imagine a more stressful time?  How long was it before Agent Orange was implicated in the sickness of Viet Nam vets?  By the way, Dr. Mechtler earned more than $175,000 as a paid speaker for Merck, GlaxoSmithKline and Pfizer in 2009 and 2010 according to Pro Publica Dollars for Docs. We hope the sick teens in Leroy find answers to secure their health soon.

Why have 12 teenage schoolgirls come down with a baffling form of “conversion disorder”, once known to Freudians as “hysteria”? The doctor now treating them warns that the answer could be a portent for an increasingly stressed-out America which has been taught to “live in fear”.

“Ever since 9/11, Americans have been subjected to warnings of orange alert and red alert, and, unlike Israelis for instance, they are not culturally used to it,” says Mechtler. “What has happened to these girls is the result of Americans being made to live in fear. We are going to see more of these outbreaks.”

Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/health-science/44544/ny-schoolgirls-hysteria-doctor-blames-constant-terror-alerts#ixzz1kQfsaM20

Comments

shahshah1212

correlate living too close to freeways" an as explanation for the few hundred thousand families who witnessed their child regress following vaccinations. google

Ricky Barnes

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Eric

Docs know more than you think. They can tell if a movement is voluntary or not. One test docs learn for paralysis is to lift a patient's hand over her face, then let go. Almost nobody lets it hit the face, and it shows they have control. Neurologists see plenty of this stuff and are really being gentle when they suggest conversion disorder and say the symptoms are real. Yah, real psych symptoms.

Jen

Hmmmn, "abnormal immune response" maybe due to ASIA (see patrons 99 info on the Harvard Neurologist article). If this is the case, let them explain how/why Syndenham's Chorea is suddenly on the rise. Funny how it cooed be coinciding with the ever increasing mandatory vaccines for school that the poor kids have to take.

Allie90

Heard this today, that Erin Brockovich is investigating
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/erin-brockovich-launches-investigation-tic-illness-affecting-ny/story?id=15456672#.TyMEyZjN45Q

Some people have posted to this site now, sounds like it could be
Sydenham Chorea - since its just happening in girls, around puberty, could it be
estrogen related? Triggered by a Strep infection?
Here is more on Sydenhams Chorea
http://www.mdvu.org/library/disease/sydenhams/syd_cau.asp

jen

my brother never had it when he was a kid, all the symptoms hit him at once. He had seen a neurologist and they did cat scan and hooked wires up to his head to test him also and found nothing. so they dosed him up on meds for epilepsy and anti anxiety meds

Grateful

I hope some of these families look up Dr. Ken Bock in upstate NY. He specializes in chronic health problems triggered by environmental assaults - problems mainstream med is not very good at treating.

He also wrote a book about the 4 A's - autism, allergies, asthma and ADD.
(Add a fifth "A": A**-covering diagnoses such as conversion disorder.)

http://www.rhinebeckhealth.com/rhc/bio_kbock.php

Jen

jen, I suppose a good start would be to see his family doctor and then go from there. Do you mean he is suffering from tics he never had as a child? Maybe then the family doc could refer to a neurologist who has experience with PANDAS/PANS. Someone else here may be able to give you more advise. Good luck to him.

jen

My brother has these same problems, started the same time as these girls and nobody has given him answers to what it is, and he doesn't live in leroy he lives in steuben county. who does he contact concerning these health issues he has? And he is an adult

Stop Big Harma

Visitor, My missing the joke shows what a joke the diagnosis of conversion disorder is.

Patrick

I do think Mold and other toxic exposures have something to do with whats going on and what is confusing is that the girls could handle the exposures pre-vaccination so it is difficult to find the trigger for the tics.
One mystery illness sufferer I stumbled upon found out it was the chemicals in her mattress. The mattress story made me think of SIDS. SIDS being another sudden mystery illness.
I had originally thought my son's tics were due to mold as I found that a few years before the school had a mold problem and people were getting sick, but disregarded the idea as he was in the same class with no symptoms the year before for 3 year old pre-school. When I looked into vaccines it made sense that a vaccine could have triggered an allergy or over blown immune response to mold.
It also took a long time to realize that he suddenly became allergic to milk as milk did not effect him his first few years.

Garbo

Every time these bozos open their mouths they confirm what the American people already suspect: They have no clue how to identify or treat the environmental illnesses this generation faces. This is literally the best they can do -- cover for their own willful ignorance by spouting ridiculous BS. What next, leeches and laudanum?

Visitor

To clarify:
The doctors{ they} are taking a real biological problem and labeling it a psychological one. It is the doc's who have the disorder. To be picky I think a careful reading of what I said communicates this. If I had meant that the "they" were the girls there would have then been no true biological effect for them to convert and only hysteria existing, but the doc's can take a real biological effect and call it psychological. It was a joke. All the same I regret I was not clear enough.

Jeannette Bishop

If the acceleration and expansion of the vaccine schedule in U.S. had occurred a decade later, would we be employing a plethora of psychologists to marginalize away epidemics of learning disabilities, allergies, asthma, autoimmunity due to living under constant terror post 9/11?

I'm now beginning to suspect Gardasil and probably other vaccines appear to be highly coincidental with onset for at least some of these children, though there is probably something at the school that factors in strongly.

Side note, I asked one of my daughters if she ever hears a mention of "terror alerts" at her school. I don't think she ever really has at home. She didn't know what I was talking about.

Not an MD

I see that you could be correct, Benedetta and Jen. The statement from Visitor is a perfect example of the trouble with pronouns and their referents. Thanks for pointing that (fact) out to me. LOL.

Jen

The Dr. Drew show on this was interesting. The Dent docs seemed willfully/blissfully ignorant and somewhat shagrined by the pointing out, as Dr. drew put it, these girl's parents are 'super duper motivated to find the cause' (read watch out, parents can be really motivated and there could be trouble ahead if you screw them over) and since conversion disorder is a diagnosis of exclusion they better exclude all the real possibilities. Dr. John Sharp was trotted out as a last ditch effort to legitimize the conversion disorder theory and Dr. Trifiletti seemed to be actaually interested and offer some real hope to these poor kids.

Jen

I honestly thought Visitor's comment was a joke. Since "conversion disorder" is a diagnosis of exclusion, I guess Dent's finest have exhausted all the "scientific" possibilities for the poor girls' problems. Thank God they're getting second opinions!

TicTocDoc

Extremely loud and incredibly stupid

Pass the popcorn

"It is truly a conversion disorder. Being disordered they convereted it from a biological effect to a psychological one."

Visitor,
Is that an example of evidence-based medicine? If so, please provide the evidence.

Benedetta

Not an MD;
I think Vistor is saying it is the docs that have a conversion disorder.

"We are going to see more" idiotic excuses

Dr. Mechtler's statement is making me tic. I live in fear of such moronic doctors making mockery of medicine.

page kurtz

Wait, all these kids are being treated by the same neurologist? God help those kids, hope they get a second opinion.

Not an MD

@ Visitor - When the tics these children are suffering from are found to be from either a bad vaccine lot, or a specific toxin in their environment, your opinion will change. Conversion disorders are a default diagnosis used when a doctor has no idea as to the true etiology of a disorder.

Meanwhile, more children are being affected by serious tic disorders, in a specific geographic region, that interfere with their daily living activities. I do not find their suffering funny. I do not think their suffering should be casually dismissed with the wave of a hand and a preposterous diagnosis that will not help them to recover. I sincerely hope someone can help these children find the solutions that will help them to recover from their toxic insult.

Jen

It looks as though the Sanjay at Dent comes up on Dollars for Docs.

Jen

Haha that was funny, Visitor. Now I am perplexed- it seems there could be a different Sanjay Gupta at Dent than the CNN Sanjay, I think.

Visitor

Not an MD:

It is truly a conversion disorder. Being disordered they convereted it from a biological effect to a psychological one.

Benedetta

Well; Pharm ties comeing up with this lame brain idea - so we can assume then it is really in truly vaccine related?
Yes, that is what I am going to assume unless they want to do blood test and immune test and weelllll you know science based medicine.

Not an MD

Well, you have to admit that the BS dx provokes some interesting and knee-slappingly silly conversation. I love how the neurologist states the mystery of how all 12 girls (now up to 15 girls and a boy?) have come to suffer from mass psychosis all lies with what he could uncover from the 12th child, the only child of the original 12 he hasn't yet treated. Considering the diagnosis for the other eleven girls, one must wonder what the odds are of the 12th girl, who is allegedly most severely impacted, gracing his office for a visit? I wish him luck with that!

Conversion disorder, my butt!

Jen

Actually read the intro "about Dent Neurology Clinic" it's hysterical- state of the art, on the forefront .... Comprehensive, compassionate, LMFAO.

Jen

Interestingly, Sanjay Gupta is listed under "providers" for Dent Neuro clinic. He also appears in "Dollars for Docs." no wonder he looked squeamish interviewing Dr. Wakefield. Bet he's real proud of the runaround these poor girls got from their "state of the art" clinic.

Donna L.

All this needs is a picture of Bat Boy and it reads just as if it was lifted straight out of Weekly World News.
I am speechless.

Pass the popcorn

Stuyvesant HIgh school students in downtown Manhattan saw the events of 9/11 at the World Trade Center happen with their own eyes. I haven't heard about any clusters of tic disorders at Stuyvesant.

What a stupid man.

Jeff C

Oops, didn't realize the article already had an embedded link to the pro publica payoffs page.

Jeff C

Turns out the good doctor was paid $116,725 from GSK for speaking fees over the last couple years. Nice work if you can get it. No doubt the wonder of GSK psychotropics in treating such disorders comes up in these speeches.

http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/top_earners/mechtler-laszlo--3

Link from Vaccination News

Visitor

How can Metchler's statement work without a "Neuralyzer".
Seriously, did they even give a pretense of reason by saying they dervied this "subliminal" stress during interviews, or maybe dream interpretions, or even the lines in their hands?{not serious} When in doubt it's 9-111. I understand now.

Carol

What terror alerts?

Jen

I am disgusted. Not surprised to see his Merck ties but thankyou for pointing that out. Those gores need to stay as far away from that man as possible. He has a clear conflict of interest- how would he like it if he came down with something and no effort was put in to finding the cause or solution?

Sarah

now that is a stretch. If PTS from 9/11 were the reason then we'd all be tic'ing. I woud more likley buy into a chemical exposure. Either an accidental or deliberate release of a neuro-toxin (pesticide?) as being the reason for these girls developing tics than saying it due to "stress". Chemically test the turf (inc. astro turf) on field these kids play on.

Judith

Isn't it amazing that this conversion disorder only exists in the US? And mainly these 12 girls in LeRoy? I would guess there would be dozens and dozens of people suffering from this in Baghdad, or Afghanistan? You know, where the likely hood of a bombing attack is an everyday occurrence.

Does he not realize how ridiculous he sounds?

Nope.

victor pavlovic

The neurologist blames constant terror alerts for the Leroy 12 girls recent health problems, how ridiculous is that? especially since these girls were just a couple of years old at the time of 9/11 so they would have no memory of this, and thus no fear, since it didn't happen to them.

Bob Moffitt

I have heard that "correlation" does not mean "causation" of children who "regress" following vaccinations so often .. that my head hurts every time I hear it expressed anew.

Indeed .. if it were only a few thousand parents reporting the same "regression" in their child's health and development following vaccinations .. mere "correlation" with vaccinations may be possible.

However, common sense dictates a few HUNDRED THOUSAND parents reporting the same "regression" following vaccinations should be considered as EVIDENCE THAT MORE THAN MERE "CORRELATION" WITH VACCINATIONS MAY BE RESPONSIBLE.

In any event, for this (fill in your own blank) to "CORRELATE" the mysterious illness of eleven girls in the same school with HIS perception they live in "an increasingly stressed out America which has been taught to live in fear" is pure poppycock.

In fact .. this goes right up there with those who "correlate living too close to freeways" an as explanation for the few hundred thousand families who witnessed their child regress following vaccinations.

GH

Before making public statements he really ought to visit this planet more often.

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