SIDS = Sudden Inoculation Death Syndrome

"Here are some facts that are far less likely to be mentioned about the smallpox vaccine"
Totally agree Barry, these "facts" are from 1871, 1855, 1917 that'll be before refridgeration, bifurcated needles, quality control of vaccine production etc etc, what on earth is their relevance to any intelligent debate about smallpox and trying to resolve problems of autism, like another fact you quote " Vaccines don't actually prevent disease at all,", that's why 97% of cases of measles in France hadn't had 2 courses of MMR.

Statements like that just make trying to resolve problems for autistic kids a million times harder Barry, do you really believe them???

Here are some facts that are far less likely to be mentioned about the smallpox vaccine:

“..Chief Medical Officer of England announced in May 1871 that 97.5 percent had been vaccinated. In the following year, 1872, England experienced it’s worst-ever smallpox epidemic, which claimed 44,840 lives..”

“..In Scotland, between 1855-1875, over 9,000 children under 5 died of smallpox despite Scotland being, at that time, one of the most vaccinated countries in the world. In 1907 to 1919, with only a third of the children vaccinated, only 7 smallpox deaths were recorded for children under 5 years of age..”

".. Japan started compulsory vaccination against smallpox in 1872 and continued it for many years with disastrous results. Smallpox steadily increased each year and in 1892 their records showed 165,774 cases with 29,979 deaths -- all vaccinated.

".. In the Philippines between 1917 and 1919, the U.S. government staged a compulsory vaccination campaign which brought on the worst epidemic of smallpox in this island nation's history with 162,503 reported cases and 71,453 deaths -- all vaccinated.. "

The real truth, is that vaccines are the most important weapon in the arsenal of a corrupt medical system, which DEPENDS on people being sick. Vaccines don't actually prevent disease at all, which is why you regularly see outbreaks of "vaccine preventable" diseases in fully vaccinated populations. The true purpose of vaccines, is to attack that part of our body which NATURE designed to keep us healthy.

It's a pretty simple, albeit diabolical plan. And although most people struggle to see it today, others saw it coming a long time ago:

"Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship ... To restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others, will constitute the Bastille of medical science."

-- Benjamin Rush, M.D.
Signatory to the Declaration of Independence
Physician to George Washington

Not to belabor the smallpox issue, but I just found this link to Dr. Tenpenny's article re: smallpox and it's really well worth the read: http://chetday.com/smallpoxepidemic.htm

"Myth 2: Smallpox Is Easily Spread by Casual Contact with an Infected Person

Smallpox will not rapidly disseminate throughout the community. Even after the development of the rash, the infection is slow to spread. “The infection is spread by droplet contamination and coughing or sneezing are not generally part of the infection.

Smallpox will not spread like wildfire,” said Orenstein. He stated that the spread of smallpox to casual contacts is the “exception to the rule.” Only 8% of cases in Africa were contracted by accidental contact.

Transmission of smallpox occurs only after intense contact, defined as “constant exposure of a person that is within 6-7 feet for a minimum of 6-7 days.”[5] Dr. Orenstein reported that in Africa, 92% of all cases came from close associations and, in India, all cases came from prolonged personal contact.

Dr. Tom Mack from the University of Southern California stated that in Pakistan, 27% of cases demonstrated no transmission to close associates. Nearly 37% had a transmission of only one generation, meaning that the second person to contract smallpox did not pass it onto the third person. These statistics directly contradict models that predict an exponential spread to millions.

Even without medical care, isolation was the best way to stop the spread of smallpox in Third World, population dense areas. With a slow transmission rate and an informed public, Mack estimated that the total number of smallpox cases in America would be less than 10, a far cry from the millions postulated by the press.

Dr. Kuritsky said at the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox on June 8 in St. Louis, “Given the slow transmission rate and that people need to be in close contact for nearly a week to spread the infection, the scenario in which a terrorist could infect himself with smallpox and contaminate an entire city by walking through the streets touching people is purely fiction.”

Point to ponder:

Mass vaccination was halted in Third World countries because it didn’t work. In India, villages with an 88% vaccination rate still had outbreaks. After the World Health Organization began a surveillance and containment campaign, actively seeking cases of smallpox, isolating them in their homes, and vaccinating family members and close contacts, outbreaks were virtually eliminated within two years.

The CDC and the WHO organization attribute the eradication of smallpox to the ring vaccination of close contacts. However, since the infection runs its course in 3-6 weeks, perhaps ISOLATION ALONE would have effectively accomplished the same thing."

Elizabeth AussieMum:
This will give you an idea:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/jan-june11/amaralext_04-20.html

In the mid 90s I was working for a law and lobbying firm in Washington, D.C. that was retained by National Association of Manufacturers and the National Employers' Association. The associations had successfully convinced a pharmaceutical company to create a vaccine for varicella. Why? Because every time a child has chicken pox, a parent is out of work for a week or more and this "absenteeism" affects productivity. Therefore their efforts to create a vaccine for the disease, in spite of the lack of any medical need for its creation. The law/lobbying firm was retained to lobby all 50 states to get the (shiny new) varicella vaccine on the lists of mandatory vaccinations. Which they did.

The rest is history.

Bayareamom and In: Yes, there are some who disagree with Dr Shiv Chopra, (who I sourced earlier) on this one-point, that the smallpox vaccine eradicated smallpox. However, Dr Chopra has fought a tireless battle to stop the government from allowing Canadians to be exposed to ineffective and harmful vaccines, genetically modified foods, pesticides, carcinogenic antibiotics etc. He was fired from "Health Canada" the equivalent of the FDA in the US for insubordination. He's one of the "good guys". Please, read the link I posted on my earlier blog.

Rachael wrote: "... The possibility of eradicating polio in the same way is open to scientific debate.."
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I'm not sure that science had anything to do with the so called "eradication" of polio

When the polio vaccine was introduced, so too were amendments to how polio was defined. A polio epidemic suddenly required more cases to be reported. And the definition for paralytic polio was also amended, a change that suddenly made it more difficult to confirm (.. and then COUNT) new polio cases

Before the polio vaccine, patients had to exhibit paralytic symptoms for 24 hours only, and lab tests to confirm residual paralysis were not required. With the amended definition, paralytic symptoms were suddenly required for a minimum 60 days, and confirmation of residual paralysis was required at least twice during the course of the disease.

This shift in reporting protocol is curious to say the least. Especially when you consider that paralytic polio was known to cure itself 50% of the time within 60 days. And particularly when you consider that just before the polio vaccine was introduced, the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis was paying physicians $25 for every paralytic polio diagnosis (.. so you can bet that polio, or anything that even looked like polio, was being COUNTED as polio).

But the charade didn’t just end there. Infections of aseptic meningitis and coxsackie virus (…diseases which are difficult to distinguish from polio), were suddenly being reported as diseases separate from polio. This definitely wasn’t the case before the polio vaccine was introduced, when all 3 infections were reported ( and COUNTED) as polio.

So while the effectiveness of the polio vaccine was reported as being stellar, was it really? Because the definition change ALONE would have wiped out polio in the years following the vaccine. And there simply is no credible, scientific evidence to prove that the vaccine caused polio to disappear.

Regarding smallpox and the belief that the vaccine eradicated it, you might want to read this article first. It's an amazing amount of information and also further illustrates the culture in the medical community of never looking further than what is being taught in medical school.

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/

Here is some interesting information not commonly known (maybe more so in this community)

http://vibrationalhealthcare.com/vac-files/25_Polio%20menigitis%20today.pdf

Education and awareness are not enough.....we need more people/doctors/experts, etc... who are honest, and will not compromise their ehtical/moral/spiritual integrity for any reason, and that will stand firm and steadfast in the truth regardless of the consequences!

Rachael,

Actually, there is evidence and data to prove that the smallpox vaccination campaign did not eradicate smallpox. According to Dr. Lawrence Palevsky, "ring vaccination" is what helped to eradicate smallpox in certain areas. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny also has excellent documentation in some of her literature as to this, as well.

You can hear Dr. Palevsky speak about this issue during his interview with Dr. Joseph Mercola over at Youtube, under "Expert Pediatricians Speaks About Vaccines."

Vaccination did successfully eradicate smallpox. The possibility of eradicating polio in the same way is open to scientific debate. All the other childhood diseases have been unsuccessfully fought with vaccination campaigns involving millions of children every year. Worst of all, these diseases are appearing with increasing frequency in the very populations that have been vaccinated for several generations. Clearly, something is wrong with these programs. The list of vaccines being administered to young children has been enlarged to include many more viral and bacterial infections with little or no scientific rationale.

Source: http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/print/whistleblower-report/

"Vaccines work. Look at polio."

*facepalm*

Dr Taylor, I commend you! We need more doctors like you.

@Barry: By no means was I trying to excuse doctors. I am appalled just like you by their negligence and duplicity in this tragedy.

after all these years of dealing with autism and poison-pushing medical personnel, by the time i have gotten to my youngest child i have finally gotten a respectable pediatrician for my tribe. she told me 1st off to simply remind her staff(meaning the nurses and medical assistants that do initial checks, weigh-ins,etc) that i do not do vaccin8ions and she will honor my wishes. On another visit when we had gotten into a convers8ion about the whole vaccine-autism thing again,(WE ACTUALLY EVEN MUTUALLY AGREED THAT IT IS LIKELY A COMBIN8ION OF GENETIC-BIOLOGICAL-ENVIORNMENTAL FACTORS) she told me (not very loudly)that she vaccin8s her own children on HER OWN schedule and NOT the AAPs. LORD BLESS HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! finally a doctor who attempts to understand. WE NEED MORE LIKE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DOCTORS WHO TRULY CARE ABOUT A PATIENT'S HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, I FORGOT THAT THEY CAN EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doctors will have more lives to answer for in the next world than even we generals. - Napoleon Bonaparte

This reminds me of Bill Maher's Huffpo article about vaccines, in which he said, "I've been finding that people, including doctors, are privately expressing a skepticism that is still not very prevalent in public. I feel like I've become a confessor for people who want someone to be raising questions about vaccines."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/vaccination-a-conversatio_b_358578.html

Sometimes I wonder, even among physicians who see themselves as dutifully vaccinating their own, if they are as likely to vaccinate their child with a fever, or schedule their infant's well-baby appointments a couple weeks early like my daughter's pediatrician tended to, or include them in any vaccine trials, or give them the same "well-preserved" vaccines from multi-dose vials, or give them a dose removed from a vial known to not be correctly agitated or stored...

I wonder if they are more likely to leave out some of the less "beneficial" vaccines and not "really required" vaccines, hold off more on some of the newer ones, and yet not see the difference in their choices and what goes on for the rest of us?

Dr. Robert Mendelsohn Quote:

Medical students are further softened up by being maliciously fatigued. The way to weaken a person’s will in order to mold him to suit your purposes is to make him work hard, especially at night, and never give him a chance to recover. You teach the rat to race. The result is a person too weak to resist the most debilitating instrument medical school uses on its students: fear.
If I had to characterize doctors, I would say their major psychological attribute is fear. They have a drive to achieve security-plus that’s never satisfied because of all the fear that’s drummed into them in medical school: fear of failure, fear of missing a diagnosis, fear of malpractice, fear of remarks by their peers, fear that they’ll have to find honest work. There was a movie some time ago that opened with a marathon dance contest. After a certain length of time all the contestants were eliminated except one. Everybody had to fail except the winner. That’s what medical school has become. Since everybody can’t win, everybody suffers from a loss of self-esteem. Everybody comes out of medical school feeling bad.
Doctors are given one reward for swallowing the fear pill so willingly and for sacrificing the healing instincts and human emotions that might help their practice: arrogance. To hide their fear, they’re taught to adopt the authoritarian attitude and demeanor of their professors.

Another:

"Did you know that the whooping cough germ, Bacillus pertussis, when injected into animals, has long been known to lead to the secretion of insulin? In 1979, at the Fourth International Symposium on Pertussis, held in Bethesda, Maryland, it was shown that this same result occurs in those who have received pertussis vaccine. In their publication, "Adverse Reactions after Pertussis Vaccination," Drs. W. Hennessen and U. Quast suggest, "It seemed of interest to examine these reactions in comparison with the hypoglycemia syndrome.. . .There was a close relation between the two.’ If your child has juvenile diabetes (a disease characterized by wide swings in blood sugar levels), ask your doctor if he has ever heard of this effect of whooping cough vaccine. Maybe it’s time to investigate whether the pertussis vaccine has anything to do with the rapidly rising number of people with juvenile diabetes, adult diabetes, and all hypoglycemic disorders of insulin metabolism."---Dr Mendelsohn MD (the Peoples Doctor Vol 6 No10)

Another:

"Almost every stage of obstetrical procedure in the hospital is part of the mechanism that enables the doctor to create his own pathology."

"Modern Medicine would rather you die using its remedies than live by using what physicians call quackery".--Dr Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.

"With the polio vaccine we are witnessing a rerun of the medical reluctance to abandon the smallpox vaccination, which remained as the only source of smallpox-related deaths for three decades after the disease had disappeared. Think of it! For thirty years kids died from smallpox vaccinations even though no longer threatened by the disease."----Dr Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.

Guys, let me apologize for the typo--Merck and Pfizer owe over 19 BILLION...not million. Repugnant, either way. lj

"All babies get that in the hospital at birth? Everybody does it."

Many children try the "everybody does it" argument on parents. This doctor apparently never heard the common (adult) response: "If everybody jumped off a cliff, would you jump off too?" After getting that response, children tend to not argue that "everybody" does something.

Also, "everybody does it" is hardly scientific. Surely a "scientist" could make a much better argument.

It is past time for medical personnel to stop trying to push parents and their children off that (metaphorical) cliff.

The doctors who are my friends are all emphatically pro-vaccine, and give their own children every vaccine that is recommended.

So far, none of their children have ever had a reaction.

And they were not at my house when I held my seizing baby, an hour after his 2-month vaccines, or when my 6-month-old daughter was unconscious for 2 days after her vaccines, or...

They have never seen a vaccine reaction first hand, so they DON'T GET IT.

And I'm not sure how I can blame them for that, because I didn't get it, either, until my own children had reactions. And even then, while I instinctively knew that they were having severe reactions, I let myself believe the nurses and doctors who told me "vaccines don't do that," until it was just too obvious.

I am not a doctor. So I have nothing to hide, no allegiance to the pharm industry, because they didn't train me. Yet it STILL took me literally years to connect the dots, even though my first thought was "this is a reaction to the vaccine."

We expect the doctors to know better, but let's face it, they went through 6 or more years of total brain-washing, while being sleep-deprived. They face massive amounts of debt right out of med school.

The only (sad) light at the end of the tunnel that I can see is that more and more doctors will be seeing their own children have severe reactions--including brain damage--to vaccines. And only then will they take a stand.

Dr. Poling as a perfect example.

There is no fear of God before their eyes.
ROMANS 3:18

I wholeheartedly agree with all those stating they would like to know if their pediatrician or doctor "vaccinates his own kids".

In addition .. I would also like to know how many doctors and pediatricians voluntarily comply as requested by the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) .. to wit:

"Please report all significant adverse events that occur after vaccination of adults and children, even if you are not sure whether the vaccine caused the adverse event".

It is widely suspected that less than 10% of doctors comply as requested by VAERS .. which means .. 90% do not.

Shouldn't parents expect doctors to maintain the same percentage in reporting adverse events as "herd immunity"?

In any event .. what steps has VAERS taken to maintain their credibility .. as the single federal bureaucracy responsibility for monitoring and evaluating adverse events following vaccinations?

Do they maintain a data base containing the reporting records of doctors? Do they issue an annual "certificate of compliance" to those doctors who deserve it that can then be posted in the doctors waiting room for all parents to see? Do they visit doctor offices and interview staff to make certain both know what should be considered an adverse event that must be reported? Do they post indications of adverse events in the waiting room so parents can know what should be considered an adverse event?

Indeed .. have they done ANYTHING to dispel the widespread perception that most vaccine adverse events go unreported?

After all .. if 90% are not reporting adverse events as requested by VAERS .. how can anyone .. including VAERS .. claim to know the "benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks"?

A very wry conclusion to a very revealing article. Every medical appointment is a fascinating look at the dynamics of human interaction. Each clinic has its staff hierarchy and pecking order, with doctors displaying varying power plays to stay on top. Many feel threatened when educated patients bump them off balance by offering more information than a mere recitation of symptoms. Why shouldn't patients be full partners in the health maintenance process?

This article also reminded me of a chapter of book I read on the life of Louis XIV. The author commented on infant mortality in the 17th century:

"Infant mortality was appalling; and the doctors were responsible. When a child was ailing, first they bled it, then purged it and then administered an emetic whic generally did the trick. They never noticed that this treatment left anything to be desired, and though of course the mothers and nurses knew, they could do nothing, since pious public opinion would have accused them of murder had they refused to let the doctors have their way."

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The doctors then were so sure that they were right. If the patient died or was disabled, it was said to be God's will. Now we just blame bad genes.

"The cynical view would be that they are highly skilled pharma technicians dispensing medications."

That's not cynical at all! It's the truth.

I am in agreement with JB Handley - vaccines don't cause autism - pediatricians do!

It would be nice to have a national survey of doctors about vaccines.
I think the results would be very revealing. We are not going to have change until this system of hypocrisy is exposed. I would like to force all physicians and CDC workers to reveal under oath how they vaccinate or not vaccinate their own children.

I'd like to make one thing clear, doctors in general are not scientists. Most don't have the time or the curiosity to read up on the science behind the medications they prescribe daily.
They are generally ignorant of nutrition and its role in health. The cynical view would be that they are highly skilled pharma technicians dispensing medications.

At first I thought this was a "look at this great doctor, he is questioning vaccines" article that had a doctor that was borderline moronic. How could he not know about the supreme court decision? How can he rely on herd immunity when herd immunity doesn't exist (Based on simple math, the number of people who would have to be up-to-date on vaccines, which includes adults, it's just not possible. Then add in the fact that most of the vaccines aren't as effective as reported.). But then I realized (maybe I am as dumb as he is) that Lisa was making a much bigger point. And it goes back to what I have been thinking for a while now "it's the doctors that are the problem."

Doctors are scientists and there lays the problem.

The medical schools pick those type of students that can repeat perfectly everything they have ever read or saw or heard. Do math really well.

These may not make the best doctors, because doctoring I have always heard is an art.

A Science based art, but and art.

Docs by the way are no more of a scientist than a highschool science teacher is, maybe less so.

The type of students that are being picked by medical schools are perhaps not that creative to be an artist, or a true thinker, but a slave to dogma. They mayb not even be that workified (well not in way - they have never had to struggle or worked much to learn as many others with lesser abilities).

I am not wrong on this, because any teacher will tell you that the student that made a 25 to 30 on the ACT scores is a long way from the sure thing of succeeding in college or life. Their intellect has come way too easy and they really don't know how to really put the nose to the grind stone day in and day out.

That said; how many times have we said something and they have no idea what we are talking about even when we are quoting sure enough studies.

For example; my recent visit to a neurologist nurse practionier who did not even know that Kalwasakis was a mulit - organ vasculities - she thought it involved the heart only. Okay so she is a neurologist but her son had Kawasakis 20 plus years ago.

The doctor is unusually brave and honest. He has to support his own family, and protect his income, which depends on a number of things- employee vs. partner status within his own group (or perhaps an employee of a larger system, like a hospital group.) Malpractice is a real threat- if a kid picks up chicken pox in the practice's waiting room, the doctor who "tolerates" non-vaccinating families can get sued. He could lose his license, if any whack job like Kathleen Seidel decides to anonymously complain to the state board. To say nothing of the cognitive dissonance he must experience daily- reconciling good medical practice (as acknowledged even by Canary Partiers) with the bad- both taught by the same mainstream sources.

Keep it up, Lisa- this is a valuable relationship for both you and the doctor.

I think there are many many more docs that don't vaccinate their own than we know. Many admit it when pressed by their patients. The problem is, most patients don't even DREAM to ask questions.
My own ped is careful with his patients. He refuses HepB for them all at the hospital and carries very few vax in the office. If you want flu or HepA and a few others, he says you can go to the health dept.
He has to keep everyone actively vaccinated, tho, there has been an incident of an insurance company coming in to audit him. If, after pulling random files, they determined his patients were not vaccinated properly, then they could have pulled their insurance from his office. I believe this is a motivation to vax like none other....
He has done this for years, but now the state is giving him a hard time...knowing he has changed nothing over the years. Fascinating, when more and more and more vax are being required, that they are all of a sudden cracking down. Tells you where our fight is headed...